An Anti GrUvia Archive- Dead Blog.

This was an Anti-GrUvia and Anti-Juvia Vent Blog, but it did not need to exist. If you don't like seeing hate on her, PLEASE BLOCK US. We used anti tags to keep posts out of the sight of those who like her character, so that we could dislike quietly over here.

[absolutezerotolerance]

When I created this blog, along side my fellow moderator, I was in a very different place, mentally. J//uvia and Gr//uvia made me angry in a way I couldn't get over and by in large I surrounded myself with people who felt the same way. I thought that venting was healthy, and I still do, but not so much in the way we went about it.

There is a difference between having a space where you can voice what you're feeling and thinking for the sake of working through them, and having that space be public. There is a certain level of satisfaction that you can get from reading metas like the ones we posted, agreeing with your side, but to what end?

Over the months we've run this blog, we've received many an-ask about how this blog has been appreciated by other fans who don't enjoy the way the ship is handled by the Fairy Tail series, itself, the sequel or by the fandom at large. And whilst there may or may not be a conversation to be had where J//uvia and Gr//uvia and what they represent are concerned, months ago I came to the conclusion that this blog is not the way to go about it. I will come back to why it took so long between me realizing this and posting this in a moment, but for our followers, I want to pose a question to you.

What conversation does this blog actually influence? That J//uvia is a bad character? That Gr//uvia is a bad ship? Okay, then, to what end? How is this blog different from the recent attacks on archive of our own, or the inter-fandom discourse about purity culture? Is the way we talk about J//uvia and Gr//uvia not in line with the same type of thinking that gets fanfiction archives attacked over hosting gay fanfiction or authors attacked in their own comments over writing about darker subjects?

And even if that were a moot point, how would it be fair to ask fans of the ship and character to have a conversation with a blog like this floating around that is so aggressively opposed to it? How can we ask fans to sit down and have an actual discussion and trust that there is a good faith to be had? Do we have any good faith towards J//uvia or Gr//uvia?

Personally, I have arrived at the answer: no. I didn't have good faith towards either.

When this blog was active, I thought that was a fine position to hold. I still don't like J//uvia or Gr//uvia or the way they are so heavily intertwined with Gray that it is impossible to search for him. But, that's my problem. That's my opinion. I've been in this fandom for just under a decade, I have fanfic authors and fanartists who I like who don't post about those topics, or if they do, I can just rely on the old adage of "don't like, don't read". Disliking J//uvia and Gr//uvia doesn't have to be this big political statement that you need mountains of evidence to justify. It is okay to just not like them. Hell, it is okay to think the ship is toxic. But there are better things to spend my energy on the venting about how much I dislike them, and the people who do like J//uvia and Gr//uvia are not evil pieces of shit for doing so, I don't need to make them into strawman arguments to show why me not liking J//uvia and Gr//uvia is the morally superior stance to hold.

In the months that I have been gone, I have moved on from the Fairy Tail fandom into another one and that above all else is what helped me flip my perspective on this. The Fairy Tail fandom was not a good experience for me, by in large. I adore Gray, and I would not trade the friends I made through Fairy Tail for the world, but those are the exceptions. There are too many ways that Fairy Tail and its fandom have warped my perception of fandom to list, but just being outside it for months was a hell of a shock.

I was so god damn scared of approaching ships and characters and topics in my new fandom because my experience with the Fairy Tail fandom made my first instinct be wariness and caution, because what if. What if the ship's fans are toxic? What if the content of the ship isn't healthy? What if other people care that I ship this in the way I cared if other people shipped Gr//uvia?

In the defense of my younger self, I was 13 when I joined this fandom. And for the majority of the decade it was my only fandom, the only one I was active in for a substantial period of time anyway. I now know that if I found and fell in love with Fairy Tail today that I would have a vaaaastly different opinion of it and its ships and its characters and its fans. I wouldn't care, is the thing. Because why should I when the alternative is having fun with the parts of the fandom that I enjoy?

Ship and let ship, it's a piece of media for fuck's sake, the people who enjoy ships you don't like are not the devil reincarnated, so leave them alone.

To the fans of this blog, I'm glad if this blog was helpful to you in some way. Be that in helping you to articulate why you don't like J//uvia or Gr//uvia or the 100 years sequel, or if the original intention of this being a productive vent space actually had that effect for you.

To the fans of J//uvia and Gr//uvia, I am sorry to have put you in the position that I did, using this blog as a weapon to paint you in a truly awful light. What I think and feel about this ship is my issue, and I shouldn't have pushed it onto you as some grand moral failing on your part.

I will be stepping down from actively running this blog, it is a piece of my fandom history that I don't want to hold onto any longer.

See you around.

[absolutezerotolerance]

I don't think I can make a goodbye post better than the other moderator has, because honestly? I feel the exact same way.

But there is something I want to talk about and apologize for.

My IRL stalker trauma, the doxxing, death threats, suicide bait, and coordinated harassment I received from Gray/Juvia shippers and some of the people I was actively around in fandom caused me to form an opinion that I hadn't realized was rooted in purity culture. That's what led me to create this blog with their help.

I wanted a vent space to exist for those who had gone through the same thing, but a public vent space really does only encourage further hatred and anger. It encourages people to go further down the rabit hole, and to begin stereotyping shippers, driving a larger divide between people.

And that's the thing, isn't it? We're all people on the other side of the screens. Who am I to judge what brings them joy? Even if it caused me so much grief, that doesn't mean it did the same for them. It's no different from prefering a different kind of cake than someone else.

There's nothing wrong with having a different taste in fiction, and it doesn't define your morals. Not in the slightest. One bad apple may spoil the bunch, but people aren't apples, and my experiences do not define everyone's.

I have grown a lot as a person in the past couple of years, and with that I have learned just how many things that I whole heartedly believed in during my teenage years were wrong. So very wrong.

And in doing so, it's made several of the asks that we get very hard to answer, because I now see every little thing that is only feuled by hate and anger instead of the actual need to vent. There are many asks that have been deleted simply because they are wildly innapropriate and innacurate. Others that I've gone through the effort to correct, even when it lends itself to the side of Gray/Juvia shippers.

Many of those asks were outright dehumanizing all of the shippers, and thats where I draw a line. Again, the actions of some are never the actions of all. There are always exceptions, and in my case, all who hurt me were likely just a loud majority at the time. It wasn't right of them to hurt me, but it also wasn't right of me to judge all shippers by the actions of other people. And even if I though I tried not to ever judge people without knowng them first, I know I still did it unconsciously.

So while my intention was never to harm any of you, I know there's a large chance that one of my posts or something I've said has been used to harm you. And for that, you have my deepest apologies.

At one point I was a kid who had been mislead by purity culture and the lies that fictional media reflect one's morals, but leaving the fandom for a bit has helped me to see how deeply manipulated I was, both by others and my own trauma. This blog was not the right way to go about anything. It wasn't helping anyone. Even whenpeople vented here, it often just led to us accidentally validating their hatred for real people instead of just a piece of fiction they didn't like. it's not okay.

So once again, I'm sorry.

This blog is now officially dead. All moderators have left except one willing to archive the sideblog, and we will no longer be taking asks or submissions.

Ship and let ship, and try not to make the same mistakes we have. okay? Live, learn, and do better. Be kinder.

Goodbye.

[absolutezerotolerance]

Politely reminding everyone that our askbox and submissions are permanantly closed. This blog remains as an archive only, and harassing fomer mods will not change that.

You’re only sinking to the same level as our former harassers by doing that. Grow up. Touch some Grass. Move on.

-Final Mod.

[absolutezerotolerance]

When I created this blog, along side my fellow moderator, I was in a very different place, mentally. J//uvia and Gr//uvia made me angry in a way I couldn't get over and by in large I surrounded myself with people who felt the same way. I thought that venting was healthy, and I still do, but not so much in the way we went about it.

There is a difference between having a space where you can voice what you're feeling and thinking for the sake of working through them, and having that space be public. There is a certain level of satisfaction that you can get from reading metas like the ones we posted, agreeing with your side, but to what end?

Over the months we've run this blog, we've received many an-ask about how this blog has been appreciated by other fans who don't enjoy the way the ship is handled by the Fairy Tail series, itself, the sequel or by the fandom at large. And whilst there may or may not be a conversation to be had where J//uvia and Gr//uvia and what they represent are concerned, months ago I came to the conclusion that this blog is not the way to go about it. I will come back to why it took so long between me realizing this and posting this in a moment, but for our followers, I want to pose a question to you.

What conversation does this blog actually influence? That J//uvia is a bad character? That Gr//uvia is a bad ship? Okay, then, to what end? How is this blog different from the recent attacks on archive of our own, or the inter-fandom discourse about purity culture? Is the way we talk about J//uvia and Gr//uvia not in line with the same type of thinking that gets fanfiction archives attacked over hosting gay fanfiction or authors attacked in their own comments over writing about darker subjects?

And even if that were a moot point, how would it be fair to ask fans of the ship and character to have a conversation with a blog like this floating around that is so aggressively opposed to it? How can we ask fans to sit down and have an actual discussion and trust that there is a good faith to be had? Do we have any good faith towards J//uvia or Gr//uvia?

Personally, I have arrived at the answer: no. I didn't have good faith towards either.

When this blog was active, I thought that was a fine position to hold. I still don't like J//uvia or Gr//uvia or the way they are so heavily intertwined with Gray that it is impossible to search for him. But, that's my problem. That's my opinion. I've been in this fandom for just under a decade, I have fanfic authors and fanartists who I like who don't post about those topics, or if they do, I can just rely on the old adage of "don't like, don't read". Disliking J//uvia and Gr//uvia doesn't have to be this big political statement that you need mountains of evidence to justify. It is okay to just not like them. Hell, it is okay to think the ship is toxic. But there are better things to spend my energy on the venting about how much I dislike them, and the people who do like J//uvia and Gr//uvia are not evil pieces of shit for doing so, I don't need to make them into strawman arguments to show why me not liking J//uvia and Gr//uvia is the morally superior stance to hold.

In the months that I have been gone, I have moved on from the Fairy Tail fandom into another one and that above all else is what helped me flip my perspective on this. The Fairy Tail fandom was not a good experience for me, by in large. I adore Gray, and I would not trade the friends I made through Fairy Tail for the world, but those are the exceptions. There are too many ways that Fairy Tail and its fandom have warped my perception of fandom to list, but just being outside it for months was a hell of a shock.

I was so god damn scared of approaching ships and characters and topics in my new fandom because my experience with the Fairy Tail fandom made my first instinct be wariness and caution, because what if. What if the ship's fans are toxic? What if the content of the ship isn't healthy? What if other people care that I ship this in the way I cared if other people shipped Gr//uvia?

In the defense of my younger self, I was 13 when I joined this fandom. And for the majority of the decade it was my only fandom, the only one I was active in for a substantial period of time anyway. I now know that if I found and fell in love with Fairy Tail today that I would have a vaaaastly different opinion of it and its ships and its characters and its fans. I wouldn't care, is the thing. Because why should I when the alternative is having fun with the parts of the fandom that I enjoy?

Ship and let ship, it's a piece of media for fuck's sake, the people who enjoy ships you don't like are not the devil reincarnated, so leave them alone.

To the fans of this blog, I'm glad if this blog was helpful to you in some way. Be that in helping you to articulate why you don't like J//uvia or Gr//uvia or the 100 years sequel, or if the original intention of this being a productive vent space actually had that effect for you.

To the fans of J//uvia and Gr//uvia, I am sorry to have put you in the position that I did, using this blog as a weapon to paint you in a truly awful light. What I think and feel about this ship is my issue, and I shouldn't have pushed it onto you as some grand moral failing on your part.

I will be stepping down from actively running this blog, it is a piece of my fandom history that I don't want to hold onto any longer.

See you around.

[absolutezerotolerance]

I don't think I can make a goodbye post better than the other moderator has, because honestly? I feel the exact same way.

But there is something I want to talk about and apologize for.

My IRL stalker trauma, the doxxing, death threats, suicide bait, and coordinated harassment I received from Gray/Juvia shippers and some of the people I was actively around in fandom caused me to form an opinion that I hadn't realized was rooted in purity culture. That's what led me to create this blog with their help.

I wanted a vent space to exist for those who had gone through the same thing, but a public vent space really does only encourage further hatred and anger. It encourages people to go further down the rabit hole, and to begin stereotyping shippers, driving a larger divide between people.

And that's the thing, isn't it? We're all people on the other side of the screens. Who am I to judge what brings them joy? Even if it caused me so much grief, that doesn't mean it did the same for them. It's no different from prefering a different kind of cake than someone else.

There's nothing wrong with having a different taste in fiction, and it doesn't define your morals. Not in the slightest. One bad apple may spoil the bunch, but people aren't apples, and my experiences do not define everyone's.

I have grown a lot as a person in the past couple of years, and with that I have learned just how many things that I whole heartedly believed in during my teenage years were wrong. So very wrong.

And in doing so, it's made several of the asks that we get very hard to answer, because I now see every little thing that is only feuled by hate and anger instead of the actual need to vent. There are many asks that have been deleted simply because they are wildly innapropriate and innacurate. Others that I've gone through the effort to correct, even when it lends itself to the side of Gray/Juvia shippers.

Many of those asks were outright dehumanizing all of the shippers, and thats where I draw a line. Again, the actions of some are never the actions of all. There are always exceptions, and in my case, all who hurt me were likely just a loud majority at the time. It wasn't right of them to hurt me, but it also wasn't right of me to judge all shippers by the actions of other people. And even if I though I tried not to ever judge people without knowng them first, I know I still did it unconsciously.

So while my intention was never to harm any of you, I know there's a large chance that one of my posts or something I've said has been used to harm you. And for that, you have my deepest apologies.

At one point I was a kid who had been mislead by purity culture and the lies that fictional media reflect one's morals, but leaving the fandom for a bit has helped me to see how deeply manipulated I was, both by others and my own trauma. This blog was not the right way to go about anything. It wasn't helping anyone. Even whenpeople vented here, it often just led to us accidentally validating their hatred for real people instead of just a piece of fiction they didn't like. it's not okay.

So once again, I'm sorry.

This blog is now officially dead. All moderators have left except one willing to archive the sideblog, and we will no longer be taking asks or submissions.

Ship and let ship, and try not to make the same mistakes we have. okay? Live, learn, and do better. Be kinder.

Goodbye.

[absolutezerotolerance]

When I created this blog, along side my fellow moderator, I was in a very different place, mentally. J//uvia and Gr//uvia made me angry in a way I couldn't get over and by in large I surrounded myself with people who felt the same way. I thought that venting was healthy, and I still do, but not so much in the way we went about it.

There is a difference between having a space where you can voice what you're feeling and thinking for the sake of working through them, and having that space be public. There is a certain level of satisfaction that you can get from reading metas like the ones we posted, agreeing with your side, but to what end?

Over the months we've run this blog, we've received many an-ask about how this blog has been appreciated by other fans who don't enjoy the way the ship is handled by the Fairy Tail series, itself, the sequel or by the fandom at large. And whilst there may or may not be a conversation to be had where J//uvia and Gr//uvia and what they represent are concerned, months ago I came to the conclusion that this blog is not the way to go about it. I will come back to why it took so long between me realizing this and posting this in a moment, but for our followers, I want to pose a question to you.

What conversation does this blog actually influence? That J//uvia is a bad character? That Gr//uvia is a bad ship? Okay, then, to what end? How is this blog different from the recent attacks on archive of our own, or the inter-fandom discourse about purity culture? Is the way we talk about J//uvia and Gr//uvia not in line with the same type of thinking that gets fanfiction archives attacked over hosting gay fanfiction or authors attacked in their own comments over writing about darker subjects?

And even if that were a moot point, how would it be fair to ask fans of the ship and character to have a conversation with a blog like this floating around that is so aggressively opposed to it? How can we ask fans to sit down and have an actual discussion and trust that there is a good faith to be had? Do we have any good faith towards J//uvia or Gr//uvia?

Personally, I have arrived at the answer: no. I didn't have good faith towards either.

When this blog was active, I thought that was a fine position to hold. I still don't like J//uvia or Gr//uvia or the way they are so heavily intertwined with Gray that it is impossible to search for him. But, that's my problem. That's my opinion. I've been in this fandom for just under a decade, I have fanfic authors and fanartists who I like who don't post about those topics, or if they do, I can just rely on the old adage of "don't like, don't read". Disliking J//uvia and Gr//uvia doesn't have to be this big political statement that you need mountains of evidence to justify. It is okay to just not like them. Hell, it is okay to think the ship is toxic. But there are better things to spend my energy on the venting about how much I dislike them, and the people who do like J//uvia and Gr//uvia are not evil pieces of shit for doing so, I don't need to make them into strawman arguments to show why me not liking J//uvia and Gr//uvia is the morally superior stance to hold.

In the months that I have been gone, I have moved on from the Fairy Tail fandom into another one and that above all else is what helped me flip my perspective on this. The Fairy Tail fandom was not a good experience for me, by in large. I adore Gray, and I would not trade the friends I made through Fairy Tail for the world, but those are the exceptions. There are too many ways that Fairy Tail and its fandom have warped my perception of fandom to list, but just being outside it for months was a hell of a shock.

I was so god damn scared of approaching ships and characters and topics in my new fandom because my experience with the Fairy Tail fandom made my first instinct be wariness and caution, because what if. What if the ship's fans are toxic? What if the content of the ship isn't healthy? What if other people care that I ship this in the way I cared if other people shipped Gr//uvia?

In the defense of my younger self, I was 13 when I joined this fandom. And for the majority of the decade it was my only fandom, the only one I was active in for a substantial period of time anyway. I now know that if I found and fell in love with Fairy Tail today that I would have a vaaaastly different opinion of it and its ships and its characters and its fans. I wouldn't care, is the thing. Because why should I when the alternative is having fun with the parts of the fandom that I enjoy?

Ship and let ship, it's a piece of media for fuck's sake, the people who enjoy ships you don't like are not the devil reincarnated, so leave them alone.

To the fans of this blog, I'm glad if this blog was helpful to you in some way. Be that in helping you to articulate why you don't like J//uvia or Gr//uvia or the 100 years sequel, or if the original intention of this being a productive vent space actually had that effect for you.

To the fans of J//uvia and Gr//uvia, I am sorry to have put you in the position that I did, using this blog as a weapon to paint you in a truly awful light. What I think and feel about this ship is my issue, and I shouldn't have pushed it onto you as some grand moral failing on your part.

I will be stepping down from actively running this blog, it is a piece of my fandom history that I don't want to hold onto any longer.

See you around.

[absolutezerotolerance]

do you hate the idea of juvia being a Fullbuster? tbh seeing Juvia having Gray's last name disgusts me if you ask me.

Is this something that happens in 100YQ? None of the Mods actually follow the story, only checking in on it when asked.

Canon or not, it does not sound nice. Gray deserves better.

[absolutezerotolerance]

Gray is crazy for apologizing. Unfortunately Juvia totally manipulated him into doing it. He has nothing to apologize for.

She absolutely gaslit him into apologizing. we've talked about it several time on the page, but this is the one that is worded the best.

[absolutezerotolerance]

It's practically canon that Juvia raped Gray, it perfectly aligns with her character!

While it is blatantly stated that Juvia sexually harassed Gray during the timeskip and that he had to forcefully remove her from his bed, there's no specification of whether or not it was rape and we try to avoid anything that is not fully supported on the blog.

You're welcome to believe this yourself, and one of the four mods believes this as well, but the rest of us stick to believing that it was only sexual assault or attempted rape, as it is also specified that gray kicked her out of the bed and stopped the altercation.

No, that does not make it any better, but the full claim is still unsuported, and therefore non-canon. It was however, still sexual assault.

[absolutezerotolerance]

Just a head's up, if an ask will require us to reread or rewatch a section of the manga/anime, it will take a little while to get to. All of the mods are very busy, and those tend to get pushed to the bottom of the to-do list!

We will get there eventually, just not immediately. Thank you for you understanding.

[absolutezerotolerance]

Gruvians: It's just fiction! stop taking it so seriously! Also Gruvians: writes long metas on why the ship is brilliant, stalks accounts they were blocked by to bitch about said account not liking their ship, stalks posts they disagree with & vehemently reading the tags within each reblog of said posts & treats head canons such as a Gray liking Lucy & Erza first before Juvia as some sort of personal attack against them.

A large part of the GrUvia fanbase seems to be built on insecurity, and I think that for exactly the reasons you mentioned.

The GrUvia ship has come under a lot more scrutiny than most other ships in Fairy Tail, and I think it's resulted in them being completely unwilling to think about their ship in any kind of nuance.

One of our friends once mentioned that they don't support the ship in one of the most innocent ways possible, and it led to several days worth of battling with GrUvia fans and explaining her stance and why she was justified in her opinion. It got to the extent that she had to explicitly state that she would not be responding to any more asks because she didn't want her blog to become known for being anti-GrUvia. Just for stating an opinion. That is how quick the ship's fanbase are to anger.

You're either supportive and unequivocally good, or you're not and you must be attacked.

We've seen evidence that this has even extended over their ability to think critically about each other. We've received asks about how there is a psychologist in the GrUvia fanbase who thinks that the ship is healthy, and one of our admins was in the fandom when the whole GrUvia University thing went down. If I was a GrUvia fan, I would be disgusted by how they're treating people.

They cannot handle the idea that there is a space that exists in the Fairy Tail fandom that doesn't welcome them. Whenever we post things with the tagline "GRUVIA FANS: DO NOT INTERACT" we'd get at least 1 ask from a butt-hurt fan who could not find it in themselves to take our advise to block us and move on, and instead had tantrums after tantrums in our ask box.

(Hi, one of the other admins here popping in for just a second! Quick tw for a mention of stalking. I’ve been doxxed twice, I still get sent death threats, harrassed online, harassed in real life, and my stalker used this ship as an example of why I had to fall in love with him if he just kept trying. I personally am convinced that they’re too stupid to realize how hypocritical they are when they say don’t apply it to real life. Fiction always affects reality, even when it’s not blatantly obvious, and people really need to be more conscious of that and the fact that there are levels to it. A character’s favorite color may not have a big impact in real life, but normalizing abusive relationships has a massive negative impact, as seen by all the victims sharing their stories on this blog and those who share their stories elsewhere, because let’s face it, this nasty ship is not the only time an abusive relationship has been romantisized.

That being said, this does not mean all GrUvia shippers are stalkers/abusers. Fiction does affect reality, but that doesn't mean it controls reality. People have moral compasses, and sometimes they like to explore weird/amoral/dark things in fiction, and it's better to do that in ficiton than in real life. The problem lies within the fact that the vast majority of them that I have personally interacted with (<- reread the bold part and use your reading comprehension skills please) have been willing to doxx, harass, or abuse others. Pro-Juvia and Pro-grUvia shippers are notorious for these things, but some anti-Juvia and Anti-GrUvia people are too. The problem lies within the attitude of the shippers even more so than the ship itself. If we could both have conversations about it, with respect that neither side is going to change the other's thoughts and opinions, then the fandom would be a much happier and safer place.

Personally, I would love if we could just coexist and enjoy Fairy Tail together. Alas, it is not meant to be, hence the creation and necessity of this vent space)

On some level, I do feel bad for the GrUvia fanbase that they have to exist with so much scrutiny. But then I remember the content of the ship itself, and I genuinely think that they've only ever made it worse for themselves by being aggressive.

If the fandom was able to have discussions like this, to talk about ships through a critical lens and have an actual conversation about this, the ship would still be awful. But the fandom, itself, wouldn't be viewed as this group of people with the mental complexity of toddlers.

[absolutezerotolerance]

It kinda sucks trying to look for FT content because I adore 2 of the Big 4 ships, and I can tolerate 1, but gru////via is upseting. And it's worse because when she's NOT around gray (after the phantom lord arc) she's an exceptional character—loved her during the Thunder Legion arc because her desire for friendship manifested in her sacrifice for Cana, and it led to a very heartfelt moment between them which showed Juvia she COULD BE LOVED. And Gray deserves better than someone who harasses and stalks him. If their relationship was portrayed differently, they'd be less polarizing and they'd probably be one of my faves, but they aren't. So. Here we are.

Her sacrifice for Cana is one of her best, and unfortunately, only, moments. Juvia is what you'd call an "orbital character." She exists the same way moons do for planets, and this is without even taking the stalking into account. Her entire existance revolves around Gray (sans one or two moments), and she therefore has no agency of her own. She's a very flat character with no character development that isn't retconned. Soon after that moment, she became hostile to every woman around Gray again, Cana included.

What a lot of her fans don't seem to understand is that the ship weakens Juvia as a character too. She had so much potential and it was wasted by carving her down to nothing more than Gray's stalker. That's a tragedy for her and an even bigger tragedy for Gray. they BOTH deserved better than what canon gave them.

[notalsy]

Juvia and delusional disorder :

(Disclaimer: I'm not a psychologist or anything. I've heard about this disorder in a documentary and ever since felt that it could apply to juvia.)

As much as I dislike juvia, I try to understand why she behaves the way she does. And I honestly think she suffers from Erotomania.

Erotomania is an uncommon form of delusional disorder in which an individual has an unfounded belief that another is in love with him

Common traits of people with erotomania include:

Trouble seeing other people’s point of view

Low self-esteem

A feeling of rejection or loneliness

Social isolation

Juvia has lived a good part of her life in an orphanage, where she was rejected for her inability to control her rain. She didn't have friends and was pretty isolated. It's not hard to imagine that her self-esteem is pretty low.

The signs can be :

longing for the other person

feelings of loneliness and emptiness

low self-esteem

feelings of guilt and shame

denial of someone’s expressions of rejection or disinterest

feeling like they can’t take “no” for an answer

The person suffering from Erotomania may also experience jealousy and suspicion that the other person is being unfaithful to them.

Juvia is always longing to be with Gray.

She feels lonely when he isn't around, and can become empty as a result as seen when when Natsu and co reach the village where she even after Gray left.

Gray expressed repeatedly that he was uncomfortable with her advances and overall behaviour, but she ignored it.

Gray rejected her, but she didn't accept his answer and continued her behaviour until he changed his mind.

Her constant "love rival", not liking Gray going on missions with Erza/Lucy because of her delusions, and "love rival radar" or whatever she calls it, also point in the direction of Erotomania.

Now, I can't say for sure that Mashima ever heard of this disorder, but to me it certainly fits Juvia.

[perfectlyimperfectcharacterfan]

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I'm flabbergasted at how many people are angry at Gray for his Lost Iced-Shell stunt (in chapter 522/523)... On juvia's behalf. Like, Gray actually tried to KILL HIMSELF, and erase his entire EXISTENCE, out of guilt from hurting Natsu, but all Gruvians cared about was how 'Gray was going to abandon juvia'. WTF!? If I wasn't convinced it was a terrible pairing before, that would certainly have done the trick. Those gruvians stans only really care about juvia. Gray being in a terrible place emotionally doesn't matter to them.

It doesn't matter to them, and it never has. If it did, They would have thrown a fit over Juvia's behavior in several other situations.

This moment was meant to be a defining moment between Natsu and Gray. It's to show that no matter their fights, they're nakama. This word does not have a good english translation and saying that they're close friends really doesn't cut it. They're a reason it's emphasized when it's used in anime and manga.

Gray was willing to give everything up for Natsu, to make sure he would be okay, and to erase himself in the process to ease natsu guilt and everyone else's pain. Then Natsu stops him, just like he did on Galuna island. It's meant to be a reflection of the fact that they've always been nakama and there for one another. They've always cared about one another deeply, and will protect one another when it comes down to it.

Juvia had nothing to do with this. At most, she was lumped in with the thoughts of erasing himself to stop ALL the guild member's grief.

Not everything needs to be Juvia centric, and by believing so, people erase the deep connections Gray has with other characters. Just because Juvia is an orbital character doesn't mean Gray is.

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Glad to know i found someone who ships Gray and Lucy because GrayLu is 10xs more better than Gru//via will ever be.

While one of our mods does ship Gray/Lucy and while we may use other ships as an example, especially when those who ship Gray/Juvia hate the ship solely for "breaking up Gray/Juvia," this is not a ship blog, nor is it the place for ship discourse outside of venting about Juvia and Gray/Juvia.

Many ships for different characters can coexist all at once, and we're firm believers that no ship is automatically better than another one, even though Gray/Juvia is most definitely at the very bottom of all of our personal lists. This is also why we confine our beliefs to the tags #anti gruvia and #anti Juvia Lockser . It makes the tags (and us!) easily blockable to anyone who doesn't want to see it. Just because we can't stand the ship and made a vent space for ourselves doesn't mean we have to interact with them or shove it in their face (or vice-versa! I definitely don't wanna see the ship content!).

So while we appreciate your enthusiasm, this isn't a Gray/Lucy blog. I suggest checking out the GrayLu tag to find more shippers or ship blogs. I know there's several becausea few years back the Gruvians had an "event" I suppose we could say, where the goal was to harass, doxx, and get blocked by as many Gray/Lucy shippers as possible.

Good luck finding more shippers, and if you're lucky, maybe you'll spot our shipper mod out in the wild!

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Hey, I'm mod riy (you can find me here @xanvasofxords). The decision to set this blog up was impulsive, pretty much but I think there aren't enough spaces for anti gruvia content. The other ones are inconsistent and inactive (definitely not their fault, we know how busy life can get). So I randomly decided to create a blog with more activity so the antigruvians can come across with content similar to theirs and express themselves without getting chased by the horrible part of the fandom!

RULES :

Absolutely no ship bashing other than Gruvia, comparison is allowed but no hate towards any of the other popular ships or rarepairs

No character bashing except for Juvia, as mentioned- comparisom is allowed

Be polite in asks/reblogs/comments

Don't pick fight with anybody here

Don't invite Gruvians to this page for friendly discussion, we wouldn't want their long essays about how pure Gruvia/Juvia is on our blog

I'm not taking asks that I'll respond to, the asks are for people who just wanna express their opinions and thoughts. I'll try to post them asap

Don't bother the Gruvians, we aren't like them

Mentioning the other anti gruvia blogs so we can stay in touch if they want!

@gralunaisland @absolutezerotolerance @gruviugh

Good question, however, being an anti of a ship doesn't necessarily equal to disliking the characters involved. It means that you just don't want a romantic relationship between said characters. In this case, this space is for the Gray fandom, who love him and despise Juvia for what changes she brought to his character and his relationship with her.

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If you'd prefer to follow a more active blog, this one may suit your needs. We are not deleting and will still be here until tumblr is gone, but for more info on why we're less active check out this linked post.

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I just saw the new 100yq chapter cover… it makes me so uncomfortable tbh. There was some text on it(not sure if it’ll stay there in the final translation or anything) but it seems to have a theme of “if you stalk and obsess over someone enough they’ll love you back” and I just… don’t know how people can justify this. It’s a horrible theme to be portraying and it bothers me to no end. Also just… without this text or anything it’s still creepy… sorry I

This was sent October 6th, 2021.

I try to stay away from ft100yq because, well, it's not very good in general, but you couldn't be more correct. That cover was floating around everywhere for so long that it was hard to even be in the FT tags without it bringing up my trauma. It didn't even matter what tags I had blocked. It's below the cut for anyone who wants to avoid seeing it.

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Am i the only one that wishes Juvia stayed dead in the Alvarez Arc?

Mashima is very hesitant to kill characters off despite the fact that it could be incredibly impactful for both the story and the characters themselves. There's a lot of characters I feel would have impactedthe story by dying for real, and Juvia is one of them.

Depite all ofher actions, she's still a member of Fairy Tail, and a strong one at that. Her death would have shaken them all up, especially since she was once an S class mage, and was considered to be one again in Fairy Tail. That's no small feat, and if an enemy can kill an S class mage, then they're very very dangerous.

Though I'm also of the belief that everyone who was on Tenrou should have been an S class mage in the first place. Another death I think should have genuinly happened is Makarov. As much as I love him, letting him live made light of his sacrifice and lessened the impact greatly.

So no, you aren't the only one.

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It's worrying that pros think j*via allowing herself to get sick, is not only gray's fault but also 0% j*via's fault. J*via could have died (okay maybe i'm exaggerating), because she ceased to live, just existed essentially, once Gray was not with her. That's not okay, and I can't understand how shippers don't see this as one of j*via major issues.

Juvia is severly mentally ill, and that's one of the moments that proves it. It isn't Gray's fault in the slightest, but it's most definitly Juvia's fault in some capacity.

Juvia's backstory, while short, still shows us how she was traumatized and neglected. It's no wonder she desperately clings onto those who show her kindness, however, that does not make her trauma response okay. All it does is tell us why she's the way she is.

Most people would go through therapy in order to kick such damaging habits so that they don't hurt others or themselves in the process. Her codependency is detrimental to her health and Gray's. She needs genuine help, and for others in the series to stop encouraging her actions and dilusions.

To reiterate: trauma is an explanation, NOT an excuse.

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How do you think gray would've reacted to all of that merch ju//via has of him in her motherfucking house?

He'd likely be very disturbed. I think anyone would be in that sort of situation, even if they're popular/famous like the Fairy Tale mages are. Real life celebrities are weirded out by people's creepy fan shrines, so why wouldn't he be?