A funny circumstance where Touka and I (Tania) can both be Chara in form. And be Akito-Agito in other form.
Because I used to have Storyshift Chara as a form, and Touka fits Akito as my counterpart very well. Akito & Agito essentially look the same other than eyepatch placement & self-expression difference.
Very amusing.
That's all. Good night. I bid luck to myself tomorrow morning.
I ended up journaling my thoughts in our private journal lol.
But basically, the cards have spoken & I'm gonna try to trudge through hardships and figure out how we can stare back at their fears and overcome them, with fun & whimsy if possible.
I can't wait to have a happy plural life.
I can't wait for them to experience a happier life & live up to their potentials.
(ahem) I mean hi we're here to journal our plural thingymajig, take the stage, Tania
Hi. Hm.
Tania here.
How are we doing? Well, resetting as usual.
Jack is trying to get a grip on things as usual. I don't think it needs any more elaboration on what needs improvement. My system all know what they are.
On another hand though; so there's the difficulty of not hogging the front, and whether they should stop hogging the front in the first place.
I'd argue that I definitely need external feedback, and what better way to get that than from headmates. And it's easier to notice you guys when you& are supposed to be somewhere around the front.
So basically you need a company, rather than a replacement fronter, per se?
Mmm... You could say that actually, yeah.
Makes sense. I can imagine that the actual needed arragement is more of a... sort of like a Player-Kris dynamic kinda thing. You being the Player.
Makes sense actually
Ha, backseater.
You guys dunno what to do without me, bleeeh //affectionate
Fair enough.
Well that means that I don't have to necessarily be THE 'worker' right? Sounds good to me. Be our brain power, O Puppeteer.
To be fair also, I think RL is overstimulating to them anyway. It might be best that they're back there than here in front.
Now, as for the system of who-- Hold on
This is not ideal for members who don't wanna front. What do they do, since they're usually in the back seat?
Just poke me from time to time if you want, not much change pretty much, aye?
I guess so then
Sooo I guess that's our arrangement right now. Let's see how long we can uphold it before it falls apart from our forgetfulness and so on.
It's easier to get to know your headmates if you're not constantly trying to rip them apart- if you're not nitpicking, shaming, and blaming them for being themselves. That sounds like a "duh," but think about it for a moment.
How are you going to learn anything about someone if you're constantly fighting with or hurting them? You're only going to see them with their back to the wall, when they feel threatened, scared, angry, or upset. You're seeing them at their worst and assuming that their best isn't any better.
It's like trying to learn about your new pet cat by throwing them into a bathtub and seeing if they bite you. Of course they're going to bite. All that this kind of situation tells you is how your headmates will crack under unbearable pressure.
Let's not be too abstract about this. Maybe there's a person in your system that you think is scary, dangerous, or unwanted because they have feelings, beliefs, or behaviors that you dislike. Maybe you've pushed them away or shamed them for having those feelings in hopes of making them go away. (It doesn't work like that.) When they come out, they're upset and lash out at you- there's no space for them in your life, from their perspective, and they have nowhere else for their feelings to go but out. In response, you might shame them for lashing out and punish them by taking away what little time in control they get. They lash out again. You punish them again. No one is happy, and no one feels safe.
They learn that the only way they'll get what they need is if they ignore you completely and do what they want (because listening only gets them punished!), and you wind up confused about why they're not listening to you. It's a bad situation to be in, and it tells you next to nothing about who they actually are. It just tells you how they break.
You're not going to see the softer sides of your headmates without building at least a tiny bit of trust first. Why would they tell you what makes them happy if you're hurting them, ignoring them, or denying them? Doesn't that just give everyone else more ammo to shame or hurt them with? Or: why would they let you see their fears and pains, let alone allow you to help them work through those feelings, if they don't see you as a safe person? Why should they open up to someone that they know isn't trustworthy?
If your headmates are sending you stop signals, showing you how something bothers them, or protesting how you treat them: don't ignore those signals. Stop, listen, and talk it through if you can. Change something about how you're behaving.
Go at the pace of the slowest person in your group. If someone says stop, then stop.
Listening to each other can be scary at first, especially if you learned that you had to ignore your system to stay safe, but it'll be okay. The more trust that you can build with your systemmates, the more you'll learn about each other. The more that you learn about each other, the easier it becomes to work together. Listening is how you start building trust. Actions speak louder than words. Keep your promises.
Well just to document, Yae did some chores and cooked noodles for me
Was nice 👍 GJ wife, thanks
Mmmm...
It seems interesting to explore how the Splat world would feel in 1st person perspective, with Yae and maybe some others
Like, as a cephalopod, I know you can just summon & despawn objects out of thin air because cartoon logic, but how about when you're swimming?
Technically, our perspective is very limited once we're hiding in ink. Also how do we even see...?
I guess since the biology & other things are straight up bs anyway, I...
Naaaah I can't man, they have the details for inkling biology, I can't just ignore it 😂
So I guess I can just twist my sight to whichever way I want while flat on the ground in swim form
Ala a hunting cat, but even lower, submarine level depth
Aight I'm just gonna continue the complexity exploration in bed, it's past midnight now
Haven't done much of anything recently. Lost the plan, can't remember. What was it?
For the record, Riese pops up pretty easily when the situation prompts her. The rest too
But we're still lost on our development direction
What step do we take in the short term?
Left-field note: I think my dread of Parent-Child communication and my yearning for Adult-Adult communication applies to the tulpas too. I feel dread on interacting at all when I feel like they're Parents instead of Friends.
Back to topic
Based on past entry, I think the interaction priority is... In any order: Yae, Ray, Touka. Then the non-obligatory & just depend on what happens: Tania, Riese, Sasha.
Then in regards to WL stuff, mmm.........
When do we practically have time.... and how, do what...
Instinct says at night before sleep
But what do? What activity
There's a list for that somewhere... It's in my phone note-- wait no, it's on our Discord
Alright, that's cool and all, but I wish for daytime interactions too
How? What do?
What do you suggest we do, Yae?
Well I think most of the possible activity for us is when you're chilling & bored, like when eating (assuming you aren't watching anything instead...) and for when you need help.
But I mean, if you can befriend us I think that'll be helpful at fulfilling your own need to have us as your peer instead of your parent-type voices.
Good point
I would love to be able to call you guys when I wanna hang out with a friend when I'm bored, but man. Something's just in the way and all that. I'll try though I guess
Maybe I need some regular group activity I can reliably do every day whenever it is that I want
But what would it be?
Hm................
My dendrites aren't used to focusing on WL, even though I think it's gonna be fun to do...
Should I invest into that skill?
I dunno, what would you guys like to do?
I do think that there's expanding potential if you dive deeper into WL stuff
With Simply Plural being discontinued, I'll re-share our list of software for plural folks:
I'm also going to rec @semiplural's post about analog tools and its followup (thanks, Blue!). I also wrote this post about the tools we personally use and would like to expand on it at some point that I'm not being steamrollered by health issues.
Hey, so after I reblogged this, I did a little digging in the linked resources and found that Otocon's creators have a history of being anti-endogenic. In fact, they specifically are against Tulpamancy and believe the appropriation myth. The app's intended for disordered systems, so maybe not an ideal replacement for non-disordered systems, so keep that in mind! I'm pointing this out because the creator of Simply Plural is collaborating with the creators of Otocon to allow people to import their Simply Plural data over.
Unfortunately, that means there isn't really a viable alternative to Simply Plural right now. Supposedly, Otocon's creators have just stopped publicly commenting on syscourse, but that doesn't change the app's focus or their history of exclusion, or even their actual feelings towards non-disordered systems. Hate to be the bearer of bad news.
EDIT, CW FOR CHILD ABUSE & PEDOPHILIA:
Oh, looks like the Otocon devs are worse than I thought: https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/comments/1rnibya/dont_use_octocon_theyre_sysmeds_and_pedo/
They just... let a known child groomer who abused a 14-year-old at 18 to roam free in the server until they received enough backlash to ban them. Ew.
Then their actual privacy policies and TOS are not user-friendly at all. Seriously recommend reading the Reddit post, but I'll also link the sources they listed here:
Kinda something you have to explicitly learn & acknowledge when you're someone with something like ADHD who has impulse problems, and didn't really learn about asserting boundary in a culture full of walking on egg shells and being doormats, especially to your parents/elders.
That's all from me I think
Well one more thing; just sitting with nothing but music to the point of boredom and innerworld exploration is cool & nice.
Now the question is, how do we increase everyone's tulpa life quality?
I'm not sure of what they wish for... I guess that's something we'll find out by asking individually
Ray
It seems like he's lonely & feel neglected, so a general more focused attention & letting him do stuff would be good I think. Some exploration time
Touka
They're cheerful & fulfilled as-is, I think we just need to befriend them so that they feel a personal reason to help us.
Tania
Non-expectant companionship & allowance to explore. I think she feels like she's burdened/worked enough and want some chill slack. I kinda doubt that she'll be much of a volunteer, but understandable tbh
Riese
She's kind of a princess? Lol. It's not disallowed, it's just gonna be hard to bond at all when she's essentially a freeloader [affectionate] who's fine being by herself.
I guess she has some motivation when it comes to bonding with husband. Hmm... I guess in a way she's like Jack, where she perks up at his calling and such even though she doesn't quite respond to us.
Hmm.... difficult. But I guess we can push her to husband's face. Maybe by proxy of ordinary needs, she'll gradually "see" our presence.
Aight, next, I wanna-- we wanna utilize our WL.
Mmm how? Well
...That's hard to say. Other than just... I guess the confusion here is "what is its use, even, really?" Well it's for communication, for fun, exploration... We can just be there daily and chat to whoever inside who aren't in front and whatever... Get them involved... Ehh... Yea.
Ok time to go back to sleep, gnite (gmorning)
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Edit 11 Mar 2026: Why tf is the text color playing whack-a-mole with me, refusing to get pinked, stop it
Jack reacts really strongly & dramatically, I don't know how to deal with it. And we live in the same body - we can feel the intensity of emotions that they're feeling, the draw that's pulling them to do things that they shouldn't. (I wonder if that's a hormonal thing that can be modified with medicine/diet.)
Well, that's kinda it. I don't know how to handle it, when they sensorily... enjoy... the pain?
Masochistic enjoyment...
But no, they aren't even really masochistic. They just kinda have a low self-esteem due to, arguably observable life incompetence. Typical AuDHD struggles; maybe more of the ADHD side than the Autistic side.
They might just need a friend who still believe in them. They work best when there's a partner, to work with or to compete with.
Arguably... They themselves have the most patience to handle someone like themselves. But they also have the least patience to handle themselves directly.
So when they sense a part of themselves in someone else, they have the faith & patience of a saint in helping them heal.
But directly towards themself? None. They're merciless.
And it probably doesn't help that we're not a limitless bucket like they are.
So what do we do now?
Well, one thought was, "there's a reason we were made in the first place; in fact, the reason was very directly stated in the beginning: to help them. So it might be only natural that we do just as we were made to be; since clearly they made us due to feeling like they aren't enough to handle life by themself".
At the same time, we can't help but feel this... lack of personal value. Freedom. Agency. As if we're tied to our functions.
Maybe it's just a lack of explicit statement of like, whether we're still valuable outside of our functions. So it's not necessarily that we're truly valueless outside of our functions; it's just not spoken yet.
Because I can sense that they want to value us as more than just 'tools' so to say. It's just maybe it can't be helped that it's set aside because there's everything else in the way.
But, I mean, no.
We still have to be able to snatch that freedom by our own hands; especially because they can barely function in handing it over.
That was why a physical separate person's help would be more helpful...
Is this... do we... Are we actually more valuable when we're more dissociated? More separate? Even if that's normally more disordered?
I mean without that level of dissociation, or even without our existence really, we're-- rather, they're already massively disordered... Their history can attest to that.
Well, what have we learned then?
Sasha might have some thoughts, so I'll let them type away.
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I just think that Yae don't have to feel like they're shouldering everything alone or something. The rest of us are literally here, heck I'm literally here willing to help with consultation stuff, if the others aren't as willing.
Well, regarding the latter part, I think we can gain more interest if we establish a good rapport with them. So it just takes time, me thinks.
I was gonna plan a targeted gradual relationship building, but I guess that gives a sort of pressure ala "we need you to work for all of us after we do all this effort of being nice to you" like an expectant parent. Sooooo... maybe we should just generally lift all of their life quality up without expectations, and whoever wanna volunteer to help us out of it are welcomed.
For now, I'm at your back Yae, I don't think you need to be alone per se
Hang in there mate, we can do this
...god it's so weird being a pink text just cuz Tumblr don't have yellow text as an option for some reason
Mmmm so I think right now we're trying to tackle the challenge of befriending Jackal. Make them acknowledge that they can have a friend from the inside........
[insert Friend Inside Me joke i don't even know what the theory is about, other than it involving Woody & Toy Story and apparently it's creepypasta-y or something]
Anyway ahem, pulling the strings to make Jack be interested in things is the trick to figure out. They're very interest-driven. I don't think anyone nor anything can tell us the answer for that, since it's a very subjective thing.
So let's see...
So far, they seem interested in offers to be their research subject, offers to be their advisor, hobby pals (Splatoon, Uma, Deltarune etc). I think also, the allure of having someone they can reliably refer to as a "friend"? Whom they can turn to instantly.
I think those are mainly it? And then it's just gonna depend on the specific details of the current situation.
A little off-topic - It feels kinda weird to not have the boss around despite them being the, well, boss. The one who gives us directions, supposedly. But I guess that's how it is when carried out - the everyday joe (me) is gonna be the most active & involved since, well, it's things I need to do every day.
SPEAKING OF THAT THOUGH - That's kinda the struggle. I CAN'T do my everyday things because Jack keeps reflexively doing them for us, even though it's our job.
They & the brain are just already too used to having them do everything I guess, I'd figure.
Still, it's frustrating. Since the very point is for Jack to not be as involved, for their own good, for our own good.
"Why would I let someone else do it, when I can do it myself?" I feel them ask
Well the thing is that you SUFFER from it even though you technically can do them. You wanted someone else who don't suffer with religious rules & gender expression, no?
Oh right, that reminds me that Jack was curious about carrying out a sorta test of ability - like a "driver test" for me. Of them just observing & assisting while I try to do everyday things for the whole day.
Well we can start that test tomorrow-- er, "today" (Tuesday). We have a couple of tasks to do.
Speaking of tasks, we really need to get that laid down...... Maybe really need it written down, on paper or on... the whiteboard book. We'll see. But really need to do things.
So conclusion:
Tomorrow (Tuesday) I gotta try do things on my own, with Jack's assistance
Need a list of things I need to do.
Myeah I think that's sufficient for today's journal, see ya laters. Gotta sleep before we wake in... 3 hours.
What counts as a tulpa???? Do you need to see or hear them??? If they start out as imaginary friends are they already tulpas???? Or do they have to develop????
You don't need to be able to literally see nor hear them, though you can practice self-induced hallucination (termed "imposition" in the tulpamancy community) if you want to. But again, it's not mandatory by any means.
You don't need to be able to visualize them nor "hear" them with your mind's eye/ears either, though it would enrich your interactions.
Tulpas can start out as an imaginary friend you grew up with, or an OC or character you were obsessed with. At the start, they wouldn't be a tulpa yet. But the repeated simulation of their identity will make your brain be able to run that created identity more fluently. At some point, they can effectively be autonomous just like you. (Note that you're also an identity in your brain.) THEN you can consider them a tulpa.
It's not a rare occurrence that an author simulate their characters so much that the characters feel like they've taken a life of their own. Like the author of Garfield, putting imagined Garfield in situations just to observe what will happen and make comics out of what his mental Garfield did.
Ironically, there might be more engagement here in Tumblr than in Tulpa.info? Aaaah just where are people nowadays?! Other than in Discord I mean
Haah but I guess as pointed out, it's nicer to have a proper blog that has everything and we can just point to, rather than just a thread. It's easier to archive too.
I miss the Multiply.com days, bro
Anyway, uuh there's plans to make me the primary host, since I already wanna socialize and I'm in charge of chores, basically the......... uuuh very literal "first responder to things" (as opposed to the typical meaning of "first responder". I'm no police nor doctor).
I just kinda didn't anticipate that it'd flow like this.