Logan Miller sat down with Fang Chia to discuss recording, communal living, Tacoma, and the upcoming Alder Arts Walk. Fang Chia is Kevin Shintaku, Kyle Durkee, Coby Tamayo, and Matt Price.
Logan: How long has Fang Chia officially been together?
Kevin Shintaku: Almost three years. 2010 - 2013.
Kyle Durkee: Well two summers.
Coby Tamayo: Yeah almost three years.
Matt Price: No put two years it makes us look better.
CT: We got together right after the death of The Warner House Cat -- the band me and Kevin were in before Fang Chia.
L: What kind of music was that?
KS: Jam band type stuff. We did a cover of "Fire On The Mountain".
L: Where is Fang Chia at now in their two years together?
KS: We’re recording a second album. We’re expanding.
(Dan): They’re eating more.
MP: Fang Chia is always in a state of flux.
L: How's the second album coming?
CT: It's way hard. Although we know a lot more then we did when we recorded our first album. It’s daunting cause its a lot of material. Its a double EP.
MP: I feel its a great decision because if we can record all of it at once, then it’s done. It’d be really exciting to finish all we have cause then its like a blank slate. Then we can be like, "what does Fang Chia do next?" That way, we don’t have these trickeling little things leftover that sort of determine your future. We just cut it off clean and then we can do whatever the fuck we want to do next.
L: Is there a sort of underlying thread throughout the new album?
CT: I’d say its a lot more schizophrenic
L: Interesting. Do you guys feel the need to challenge yourselves?
MP: It's like a continuing mental exercise. You asked about constant threads, that’s sort of a constant thread going through this album. We write songs that are harder than we can play.
CT: Kevin’s songs are the hardest.
KS: I write out note for note. I conceive the music first, then figure out how to play it.
KD: Yeah Kevin will literally hand out scores and we’ll be like woah! This is really hard.
CT: Yeah and there are always typos in them.
L: What for you guys is the most satisfying part of Fang Chia?
CT: For me its any moment when it's at practice or a show or recording when we’re all playing and it just sounds the way we know we wanted it to sounds and we look at each other and we’re like yeah. We can always feel it when it happens.
KS: For me its those moments when someone comes up to me after a show and is like "I saw you guys before and didn’t like you but this was great." It’s especially gratifying because I’d like Fang Chia to be as accessible as possible even though we’re a little out there. For me it’s people telling me they like the music.
MP: For me its when we’re like 3/4’s of the way there and it finally clicks. And that comes a lot through experimentation -- like tonight at rehearsal we added a section to a two-year old song because Coby did something fucking cool.
KD: For me it's when something really unexpected happens and you realize the music that you’re playing suddenly became way cooler than what you had in your head. I get a lot of satisfaction from this because when you write music and then you bring it to a group and they realize it's your music from your head, they’re very grateful. And to be able to bring something to the group that can totally transform an idea on someone’s music, that’s incredible. And most of that comes through rehearsing in the basement.
L: Did living together affect the way you guys play music?
KS: Well availability obviously. We came up with a lot of arrangements in our living room, with an organ and acoustic guitar.
KD: Well when we were all living together there was a lot of communal music blasting going on. A lot of Tortoise. Coby went through a big afrobeat phase and subsequently we all did too.
MP: You know we’d be listening to the same damn Tortoise album the whole week and some melodies and motifs would naturally come out in rehearsal
L: Does living apart give you guys some healthy distance?
KS: I would totally live with these guys in a second -- it was a great community, the music brain was always on. But Second Cycle helps -- it’s a great community we’re still all involved in.
L: Speaking of community -- how important is the Tacoma community?
KS: It's pretty much all we got, ya know. There’s so much incredible stuff going on. It's a really happening place.
L: What tacoma bands are you excited about?
KS: Well you should definitely check out the Barleywine Revue (laughs).
KD: I don’t know, I dig Walt The Fish.
CS: I really like Red Hex.
KS: Helms Allee is crazy good.
L: So maybe not a fair question -- but why not Seattle?
MP: No I’ve got a good answer for this. In Tacoma, if you have an idea or a concept for a project you can just do it. There’s a good chance somebody has not engaged with that project, and there’s a community that embraces this DIY sort of nature. In Seattle things are very institutionalized. Tacoma is a really modular city.
KS: It's the City of Destiny. Everyone has tried everything in Seattle and everyone complains that it used to be better.
(Dan) -- There’s still enough people from different groups so it's not the same crowd, it’s not claustrophobic, we don’t raise the same barn every Friday... We’re not Amish is what I’m saying. Although to me I think the biggest issue that is going on in Tacoma is that there needs to be a venue that houses 200-300 people, ideally the size of Chop Suey in Seattle. Everyone is pretty transitory, no one wants to step up it and do it, it’s a pretty slippery slope.
L: How many Arts Walk's do you think you’ve played?
FG: A whole lot. As Fang Chia and as not.
L: How have you seen it transform?
FG: It's definitely gotten a whole lot more organized. It used to be so much more chaotic. Houses weren’t clean, things were booked at the same time. In the past we’ve gotten a lot of cool bands to play, but now it's much more organized -- it’s not just a big party anymore.
L: So the theme is The Afterlife and you're playing at the Hell house...
FG: Yes we’ve taken that into to account in our set. For a while we had a lot of heavy sounding music, and we have a lot of that under our belt that we’ve really picked out, that and taking old songs and making them heavier for our set... in Hell. Especially with the rest of the bill -- we're big fans of Sun Eater, they’re super heavy, we’re going to try and play to that and open up that hellish environment but we’re not going be like a metal band.
KD: If you see us at the AAW, and you don’t like Fang Chia, you still might like Fang Chia -- not one of our sets are really the same. It all depends on how we craft the sets -- in pandering to everyone, we can’t pander to everyone at once.
Fang Chia is a band from Tacoma. They will be playing at the Hell House, 951 N. Alder St., starting around 9PM on April 27th. Fang Chia is currently recoding their second album, so be on the lookout!