Annette

she/her, 21+, 🏳‍🌈, Russian, support Jikook in wtf they're doing. love figure skating and some other fandom stuff. like to read lengthy thoughtful posts but, unfortunately, too lazy to write them

[annetteblog]

annette’s masterlist

I’ve decided to collect some posts I consider important in one big meta post for a quicker navigation. If you want to read about some particular theme, you can scroll this and maybe you’ll find something interesting to you :)

Disclaimer (because apparently some people don’t get it) - all of these are just my thoughts on the matter. They are based on my personal experience and reflection. I don’t pretend to know the ultimate truth.

If you have something to say - my asks are open and I like to chat :) But I emphasize once again that I’m not posting rude and hateful comments or just super stupid ones (~“omg JK was looking at JM only 14.076 seconds instead of the usual 15.997, do you think they broke up?¿?!”) 

Jikook (BTS) related 

Who am I, how did I end up in the BTS fandom and why Jikook

Why I think KM’s coming out is not the best idea (aka Coming out feat. Homophobic Country)

South Korea, statistics and the general attitude to queers (not mine, but important af)

Does TKKs’ behavior influence JM and JK? 

+ my opinion on the TK fandom

Jikook “droughts” and why I find these conversations irrelevant

“2 dudes in the world famous group cannot possibly be dating lmao” and why this is not valid (feat. psychology)

+ anti-shippers are the ones who are uncomfortable (aka use your brains!)

+ why you are not being rational by dismissing all the shippers

KM, the dorm, carpooling and a bit of heteronormativity - 1, 2, 3

K-pop, queerbaiting and KM (the ask was based on this old pic)

The J and why it doesn’t stand for Jungkook (feat. his tatoo)

KM, art and its interpretation, escapism, fanfiction, politics and why it’s okay to discuss all of these

+ is it 'ok' to make light of the theme heavily loaded with human rights connotations?

Less Jikook, more general thoughts on related themes

Public figures, coming out and the responsibility (feat. Dan Howell)

+ do we pour gasoline on the KM’s closet by discussing their relationship

(Fan)fiction and sociopolitical themes

Other

Review on Yuri on Ice 

The (very stupid) censorship of Troye Sivan’s There for You in Russia

Mental health and musicians (feat. TwoSetViolin)

Favourite figure skaters 

Jokes, memes, beautiful pics

Three Best Ships with Jeon Jungkook

Speculation about JK, Ban Si-hyuk and interesting conversations (+ explanation)

How archenemies look like (KM edition)

Baby JK, JM and GDragon (not mine but holy moly)

Jimin, the Russian language and one cool shirt

That one Russian meme about the Rose Bowl

Every day I wake up and BigHit is still greedy af

Yoongi wrote fanfiction!!

Random KM AUs based on pics - [1], [2]

Jikook being the power couple they are & The Black Swan pics & This part in No More Dream

Jimin MMA 2018 pics because I’m crazy about this performance 

Jimin Black&White edition 

Jungkook and bubbles 🥺

That one David Koma’s collection with some vibes

[inorheona]

fellas is it terrorism to be queer

[annetteblog]

i guess now i can be imprisoned for this for like 12 years or something, whateva

✨Пошли они все нахуй, мы их переживём и ещё потанцуем на Красной площади, завернувшись в самый вырвиглазно-кислотный радужный флаг✨

[annetteblog]

Okay, just to clarify something

I’ve seen some takes today about how Disney would probably allow Russia (or China) to censor Loki’s orientation. I can’t speak on behalf of China, but as a Russian person I can say 2 things:

1) Disney+ (where Loki is being broadcasted) officially doesn’t work in Russia, we can’t buy a subscription. So anyone who watches Disney+’s shows here is doing it illegally via torrents or pirate sites. That means there is no official translation. Subtitles or some kind of a voiceover are being done by (almost) non-profit groups online with no connection to big broadcasting or governmental companies. As a conclusion, they (frankly speaking) do not care about characters’ orientation and someone being gay. They translate whatever being said; max they can add a warning 18+ sign just in case. So, don’t worry, Loki stays bi even in Russia, thanks to pirates lol

2) The problem may appear in cinema with big theatrical releases, where official dub exists. BUT right now nobody even knows if Loki’s orientation affects any storyline in next movies. (I bet not, cause it’s Disney c’mon they’ll just ignore it any further) So if theoretically speaking he has an explicit storyline with another man, it will be most certainly censored or the film will be rated 18+. If there is no storyline, but he just says some ambiguous phrase, which may incline being bi..... I actually don’t know. It may stay. Or not. They censored that First Gay Ever (TM) Heartbreaking Story from Endshit (sorrynotsorry, i hate this), but sometimes they let some “dubious” phrases slip. But again we don’t even know if Loki appears in any upcoming films and what kind of a story he may get (and as far as I can remember he’s not in Thor 4, so...)

ANYWAY

Hurray for Loki and happy pride! 🌈

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🌈✨ Happy pride month to everyone! ✨🌈

[piratefairy-moonlight]

bisexuals showing their power by making Italy win I love to see it

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i’m not planning to shut up about it any time soon

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breaking in with these because why not and running back to my abyss of burning deadlines

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I love this dark St. Petersburg aesthetics and I love Sergey Razumovsky

[leminione9795]

Hi! Thanks so much for being a fantastic link to k-army for all of us i-armys. We go round and round in discourse sometimes because he don’t have someone who is actually Korean to step in and say “well actually...”. So one thing that’s been discussed a lot and many Jikookers disagree about is how Jimin and/or Jungkook would be received in SK if they were to come out individually or as a couple. Some say they would be fine and it would generate more rapid change and acceptance. Some say they would ruin their careers and be rejected by SK society. Some think something in between. What’s your take?

Hi! Thank you for the kind words, it means a lot 💜

I personally would put my money on the more negative scenario happening in the short term perspective. Not as drastic as complete destruction of their career and social rejection, since they do have army, after all. But the number of companies that are currently lining around the block to cast BTS as their ambassadors would probably drop not insignificantly, depending on who their main target demographic is. There would be vocal support from the more left-leaning parties which would turn it into a political matter. I agree that it could generate more rapid change in its aftermath, but I can’t say it would necessarily be a good thing, at least not right away. People who don’t want change would try to put all the blame on BTS/KM for the chaos, and it would be an absolute mess for a while. 

In the long term, with the right kind of strategies and support, KM might come out the other end with minimal trauma. The realist in me thinks there’s no way BTS/KM can live through a coming out with their current status as Korea’s proud, beloved sons intact. But societal changes come about at irregular speeds - sometimes the smallest of advancements can take decades to be reached, and sometimes a year or so is enough to revolutionize the way people think and behave. So who knows - maybe I’m being too cynical and it really will be just fine. 😌

(But seriously, don’t expect a coming out.)

[annetteblog]

sometimes I want to have a neon sign saying “don’t expect a coming out” just to *bonk* people who like to shout how disappointed they’ll be if there is no coming out

[pettyarmy]

Homophobia Within the Fandom.

I happened across the “Jimin’s reaction to Nick kissing Priyanka” video from some US award show, and it amazes me how homophobic people can be, and how much they can get away with it because they aren’t “assuming sexuality.”

Someone commented: Jimin be like: where is my gf tho? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😔✌️✌️✌️✌

And majority of the replies are lighthearted and agreeing. There’s even y/n jokes that no one is taking seriously, because haha it’s funny. But when another person replied: or boyfriend don’t assume

Suddenly it became a: There always has to be that one person like you🙂🙂🙂🙂

and as the comments carried on, more and more people agreed that it’s annoying when someone assumes their sexuality. Its annoying when people throw in them being gay. It’s annoying when shippers show up. Meanwhile that person (and two others) stated that they were simply saying it’s not fair to assume Jimin to be straight either, as doing so is homophobic.

Of course that caused another reaction with people claiming the first reply was unnecessary, and that calling people homophobic was out of line.

Now, obviously I don’t know how old these people are, but that’s not really the point. The point is, this is a perfect example of how even the slightest mention of a member being gay sets people off. For all the “We love BTS no matter what!” that so many ARMY’s love to spew under posts and videos of their accolades, the smallest word that any of them are queer, becomes annoying and deserves a dogpile.

The video is literally 00:37. Thirty-seven seconds. That’s it, but in that time some of you were still able to find room to joke about him wanting to kiss Priyanka, wishing he had a girlfriend, saying he left you at home, that his future girlfriend is waiting in (insert country), and even mentioning Rosé — which... what? — But god forbid someone says “Yeah, lol, he’s waiting on his boyfriend.” Then suddenly it becomes an issue. Suddenly this is too far and people need to stop talking about sexuality.

NEWS FLASH!!! THAT IS HOMOPHOBIC!!!

In THIRTY SEVEN SECONDS, Jimin is a heterosexual man perceived to be jealous and/or lonely, but never gay. Never just mildly surprised that Nick and Priyanka kissed during an award show. Never just enjoying the performance. Nope. He’s het and longing for a woman.

Do you see how stupid that sounds? Jokes are fine, but only if they don’t exclude folks unnecessarily. Only if they don’t dip into discrimination, but that’s what you all do. You want to laugh, but the second someone comes in with their own harmless joke that doesn’t fit your narrative, it’s time to shut it down. If you have a problem with people who’d rather assume the members could/would date anyone, take it up with yourself. Heterosexuality is not the default.

Also, I’m not even going to get into other comments that say stuff like: He probably already has a girlfriend, but has to keep her a secret. Because it’s mighty ironic how that’s an acceptable topic of conversation, but the possibility that he is closeted (aka secretly queer) and/or dating JK without making a clear statement, is just too much to handle. Why would Jimin be attracted to men and never make an announcement about his gay sexuality, when instead he could be heterosexual and keep it a secret to protect his wonderful girlfriend?

*to the tune of Activia* HOMOPHOBIAAAAA!!!

Because if we’re being honest, his needing to keep a girlfriend a secret is miles and miles below the reason he’d need to keep a boyfriend a secret. Will fans be upset if they found out he was dating a woman? Yes, because some of you are incredibly entitled and delusional (speaking on adults, of course). But if Jimin revealed he was dating a man, it could literally ruin his life and career, because of how dangerous it is to be an out queer person.

Which, in fact, most of you don’t even realize how openly belittling and being repulsed by any mention of the members deviating from heterosexuality, is actually violent as hell. You can’t be a fan of someone and shoulder the credit for their success, all the while telling them that you’re disgusted at the very thought of them potentially doing something you don’t like. Especially when it’s not an opinion on their music or style, but them as a human being. It’s controlling, manipulative, and flat out mean.

Because if any of them are queer, they are absolutely aware of the that fact in their own country, it is borderline illegal to be. That in the entertainment industry around the world, it’s not exactly financially sound to be. And that within their own fandom, their supposed safe space and creative outlet, their fans don’t want them to be.

[blackswanlake]

This. THIS. ALL OF THIS.

I couldn't have said it better. I hate it. And this is only one example. Have you seen all the "Bts reaction to..." on youtube? It's always either self-inserts or about girls. And some of these are even outright disrespectful, sexualising the boys left and right. And yet it's all fine and dandy and "just for fun", unless you start putting a man into the variable, then it's "weird, we shouldn't assume their sexuality. Stop sexualising them!". It drives me insane. It's so hypocritical and homophobic.

[kelca13]

It’s amazing that “assuming sexuality” only becomes an issue when it’s even suggesting the possibility that one or more of the members could be queer. Meanwhile heterosexuality is often assumed — but it’s not even viewed as assuming because straight is the default, right? Mmmhmm. 🙄

ETA: I just watched the video, and he didn’t even react?! He was grooving and continued grooving, while watching the very famous person perform in his general vicinity. I feel like I’m missing something.

[odosolde-deactivated20240202]

When we are born, we inherit a hierarchical social system that presupposes heterosexuality to be the ‘normal’ by which ‘other’, or ‘non normative’ orientations are defined. When people express anger over LGBTQ readings of artists’ works, or the idea that two male idols *might* be in love- while reacting in NO SUCH WAY when it is assumed that they have girlfriends or ‘future wives’- they are making a value judgement. (Funny how the same folks who gripe about ‘how dare you say that unless you KNOW’ do not apply the same standards of epistemological and empirical rigor when they are consuming astrology write ups about ‘Jimin’s future wife’).

LGBTQ folks are in increased danger of being discriminated against, assaulted, murdered, rejected, fired, isolated, feared, and erased. They are also disproportionately likely to experience low self esteem and mental health issues. TW*************** According to a study conducted by the Trevor Project in 2018, incidents of suicidal ideation are three times higher among LGBTQ youth than in their heterosexual counterparts. Suicide attempts are five times higher. 40% of transgender adults reported having attempted to commit suicide (90% before the age of 25). *****

Heteronormativity permeates every institution in society, including the media and pop landscape. Homophobic fans have the full force of this on their side. So, while theories about m/f relationships are tolerable as ‘fun speculation’, any suggestion of non het identity is felt as threatening and compromising of the idol’s social, erotic and commercial capital. 

[annetteblog]

All of these. 

Pretending that heterosexuality is the default and the only right option is sick. Especially in 2021. 

(And somehow for me personally all of this y/n self-insert stuff is actually much more questionable and uncomfortable than assuming that someone’s not straight...)

[annetteblog]

this pic is really popular rn among ru-army and well it’s nicely summarizes everything

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Disappointed but not surprised

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Don’t assume someone’s sexuality!

- they say. And than they assume everybody is straight. 

Episode 2897315 Heteronormativity Strikes Back  

From the studio that brought you “Unnatural”, “The baddest influence” and “Adam and Steve”

Starring: idiots around the globe. 

3D. Dolby Atmos. IMAX. Not only in theaters. 

[annetteblog]

the look on his face during this part 🥰

bonus:

[akookminsupporter]

The moment

The absurd denial

Me:

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😏

[kelca13]

I think the policing is good. If more people had done policing in the most toxic of shipper fandoms then perhaps they wouldn't be so toxic now. There's no harm in bringing up other possibilities. That's how we stay grounded in reality. We should call attention to the fact that 'hey there are other possibilities than that'. Everything isn't always "a sign" that they might be in a relationship or that they might live together.

Hi, Anon! You bring up some nuances here that are good to discuss. There is a difference between discussing other possibilities and shooting down a person’s perspective as being “delulu” and impossible, and basically telling them to be quiet. Like I mentioned before, negating everything comes across just as biased as considering everything to be significant.

And there’s a difference in motivation here, as well. If we are doing it to express a different view, that’s one thing — and it’s something I do, as well. There are popular moments that I don’t view as significant. But if we’re policing each other so we don’t “seem delusional” to others, we’re more likely to engage in respectability politics and heteronormativity. Remember that people are automatically less likely to consider queerness a possibility. If we cater to those people, we are in danger of acting like queerness doesn’t exist, or that it must be IN YOUR FACE COMPLETELY OBVIOUS to be real. I touched on this a bit in my post about people dismissing the obvious subtext of GCFT.

In general, I like that the Jikook blogs I follow are careful. It’s less about collecting proof or manipulating situations to look like proof than just enjoying what we see. But sometimes it’s okay not to do mental gymnastics to prove why something could be false or not what it seems. It’s okay to have fun and enjoy moments and talk about possibilities.

At the end of the day, the people insisting that something isn’t a big deal don’t have any more certainty than people who say it is a big deal. But people tend to think that if they fall on the side opposite to the ship, they’re more likely to be rational and correct. And that just isn’t necessarily true.

[annetteblog]

“But people tend to think that if they fall on the side opposite to the ship, they’re more likely to be rational and correct. And that just isn’t necessarily true.”

This.

You’re not automatically being “rational” or “grown-up” “adult” with “critical thinking” by dismissing all shippers/believers/supporters/etc. Ofc, there are people, who are just like “ah, two cute boys look lovely 2gether i don’t care i shiiiiip them”. But what about those, who point out the possibilities of queer relationship (in fiction or real life), because there are like... factual evidences that it may be true? Completely ignoring another well-founded opinion is not being rational, sorry.

And if we talk about KM precisely, you are just very probable to fall into the hole of heteronormativity (if not already) oooopss.

[sugajimin]

A - Z with Yoongi

Q: Quotes

[annetteblog]

speaking words of wisdom

[yavileto]

Jimin: *talks at award shows/ment etc.*

Jungkook: