This blog is a safespace for people to rant or vent about anti-polyminds. You don't have to be a polymind to rant, but unless stated I will assume you are because this is a polymind-centered blog.
I will make fun of any anti-polyminds who comes in my asks, all your reasonings are bullshit and any amount of research disproves them.
Other than that, I could not give two shits about your stances coming in. I am endo-critical and anti-radqueer but I have no DNI regarding endos, radqueers or their supporters/adjacents.
I am Otto, I use it/its. I am a polymind with BPD, CPTSD, and autism with schizotypal traits. I made this blog because seeing all the anti-polyminds spreading blatant misinfo pisses me off.
More proof anti-polyminds have no fucking clue what they're talking about. Do I even have to list the differences between willos and polyminds, or are you all smart here?
"Endogenic systems have zero terms that aren't stolen" BE SO FOR REAL WITH ME. Hey. Hey. Where does the term system come from. Where does the term alter come from. Where does the term part come from. Where did the idea of systems come from. Could it be that.... the only reason endogenic systems exist is because they saw CDDs and wanted to make them non-disordered? Genuinely look me in the face and tell me that if CDDs NEVER existed, endogenic systems would have existed. You guys literally stole the ENTIRE CONCEPT OF A SYSTEM and stripped it of everything except for "haha fun alters". I don't wanna hear about your pussy ass EnDoS dOnT hAvE a SiNgLe TeRm ThAt IsNt StOlEn motherfucker you stole an entire disorder and turned it into a roleplay ššš
And then they started calling themselves "polyminds" and say "we aren't calling ourselves systems so we are doing nothing wrong" except they are just like endos and it doesn't matter what you call yourself because its STILL a blatant ripoff of the entire concept of being a DID SYSTEM.
"Polyminds" are literally a parody of endos and they all pretend they don't know that they are roleplaying endos which are roleplaying DID
Endogenics is bad because they steal terms, they appropriate the disorder, they spread misinformation, and they have a history of anti-CDD rhetoric. (I am not here for syscourse, this is the general consensus on why endos are bad)
Polyminds make our own terms, we consistently say we don't have a CDD, we try to spread accurate knowledge and again try to seperate our very much non-disordered experiences with disordered experiences to not confuse people (not to mention we actively tell people to look into CDDs the moment they show symptoms), and polymind as a term hasn't even been around long enough to have a history (unless you include the fact that the coiner is ANTI ENDO)
Y'all hear one person go "this is endo", and dogpile without actually looking into the term. Polymindence is literally based on scientific studies on subpersonalities, IFS itself proves that seeing your subpersonalities as unique individuals CAN happen. Because reminder, polymindence is literally only the ability to do that, nothing else, its not even inherently plural.
Systems when polyminds use their terms: STEALER YOU'RE APPROPRIATING OUR LANGAUGE AND YOUR ABLEIST!!
Systems when polyminds make their own terms:
It was on a -ling post too, you know, the polymind specific suffix that wouldn't translate into system terms well. Just make your own damn term if you want ours so much, it's what we did, it's not hard.
Saw it floating around, so before anyone can "call me out". When I say DID isn't an alter disorder, I mean alters aren't the only symptom and that it's classified as a dissociative and an identity disorder (I believe it's both, correct me if I'm wrong). I do not believe that alters aren't a symptom of DID, they absolutely are.
multiple years ago systems were yelling on tiktok that you can't be a system w/o childhood trauma and saying that it might be psychosis instead, basically acknowledging that DID-like symptoms can exist without DID, that there are other things that "mimic" DID so it's not easily diagnosticable, but somehow now they say that polyminds "appropriate" their experiences and you can't have anything similiar because you don't have DID??? Like, these bitches make zero sense. Not to mention that the majority of polyminds I saw and myself identify this way because of identity disturbances that are possibly caused by other disorders
I'm convinced its because they heard "polymind is endo" and now are just doubling down to the point they look stupid. If I say "oh I experience secondary structural dissociation due to CPTSD and BPD and practice IFS" then its fine, but apparently I'm not allowed to put a label on it.
You absolutely cannot experience anything remotely like alters (not even DID, all they care about is alters), but if you do and its not a CDD you actually have something commonly confused with DID except that's also not possible and you're a liar and making fun of DID.
Just saw an endo saying we're one of them?? We're literally not? "Hey we're not systems" "omg you're endos" -anti endos & endos????? Anti endos I understand doing that a little more, because they think we're endos in disguise (which doesn't make sense but okay), but endos saying that???? What??? We're like very obviously not endos
How many times do we gotta say "we're not endos" for people to understand that we're not endos? Some polyminds shattered from trauma, we do not claim to have a CDD and we don't claim to be systems. We are trying to remove ourselves from systemhood completely, its not our fault that we keep getting shoved back in.
Got told that seperating my subpersonalities will make me have DID symptoms... But also you can't have the symptoms of DID without extreme childhood trauma... So what is it?
No exactly, and it will be the same person saying both. Like they just have no clue what they're talking about, and when you ask them to explain, they just can't. Because it doesn't make sense. Also whose to say polyminds don't shatter from trauma? I know I did. I know not all polyminds do, but certainly some have shattered from trauma.
I think one of the reason so many people are anti-polymind is the mystification of cdds. There's this weird image of cdd systems being some sort of beings incomparable to anything else on earth as if we're some sort of aliens and not just people with a disorder. Ppl act as if systems and singlets are so different that singlets could not possibly relate to systems in any way, which is just really weird and honestly quite alienating. I've realised that a lot of struggles I have because of did are just everyday things singlets experience just made worse and/or more complicated because of the dissociation. For example it's normal to sometimes feel like eating cake and sometimes not, but for me I can feel completly detached from the idea of liking cake or not even remember it at all which can cause even more identity confusion and other issues (kinda simpliyfied but you get the point) People seem to forget that cdds are DISSOCIATIVE disorders, not "multiple people in one body" disorders (I don't like the saying that cdds are not "alter disorders" because they quite literally are. That's their distinctive feature. If there are no alters it's not a cdd, it's cptsd, dpdr, dissociative amnesia or something else. It's just ppl completly misunderstand what alters are) That, combined with the 'singlets could never relate' mindset, is partially why ppl can't accept the idea of polyminds or non-cdd plurality in general. And that's obviously really bad because not only is it a reason that those groups get harassed (there are issues with some of the communities, I admit, but this isn't one of them and harassment should never be a "solution" anyway) but it's literally harmful to our own community. I don't want my disorder to be seen as something "magical", just as I don't want it to be seen as inherently "dangerous" to others and I don't want my experiences being spoken over just because they're not "special enough"
If there's a system reading this that sees themselves as multiple people then that's great for you, that should absolutely be respected. But we shouldn't pretend that that's how everyone with the disorder wants to be seen and that that's what the disorder is about
Just wanted to give some insight from the other side because it literally hurts us all
THANK YOU. I know it's part of the medias fault for why CDDs and disorders in general are so alienated from the rest of society. But especially on Tumblr you'd think that people with CDDs would want to get rid of stereotypes? Y'know, try to not be "scary" and acknowledge the parts of CDDs that are reminiscent of singlet experiences.
But instead the moment a singlet is like "oh yeah, this thing is kinda sorta similar to this other thing you experience." It's either "oh you actually have a CDD then" or "why are you LARPing my disorder?" When neither are true?
"1. Polymind is endo (fake CDD, CDD equivalent, making fun of CDDs, stealing CDD terms, anything of the sort)
2. Everyone has subpersonalities (EPs aren't subpersonalities, ego states aren't subpersonalities, ect. usually go with this argument)
3. Its harmful to them, see I'm a good person, I'm just concerned about THEM, I'm not bias at all, just concerned (Usually pairs with IFS is fake, and weirdly anti-functional multiplicity arguments?)"
Said that as a joke comment but no yeah every argument is summed up to these three. I want to talk about each point more though, so that's what I'll be doing under the cut. This is a long post.
1. Polyminds are endosystems
Systems will say this and then completely forget why they're against endosystems in the first place.
They think we're faking having a CDD or CDD experience, when we have made it very clear we are not faking shit, and just have our own experiences.
Being able to distinguish your subpersonalities has been proven many of times, the simplest one being IFS. Just because we use an internet term and more words to describe our experiences than IFS, doesn't change that we have the same basis as IFS. The main study on dissociative disorders proves subpersonalities can be seperated, EPs are subpersonalities, that is fact.
We're not trying to make fun of people dealing with CDDs by labelling our own experiences. We are just labelling what we feel.
Of course terms made to describe multiple individuals in one body are going to be similar, that's how language works. It's also very easy to look into the terms we use and see that a lot of the main ones are from subpersonality studies, nothing to do with CDDs.
2. Everyone has subpersonalities
No shit. Really? You sure? Obviously everyone does, that is the entire point of polymindence, that anyone can become polyminded. Polymindence is if you see them as unique individuals.
Also, "A subpersonality is, in humanistic psychology, transpersonal psychology and ego psychology, a personality mode that activates (appears on a temporary basis) to allow a person to cope with certain types of psychosocial situations." -Wikipedia
Basically parts of the personality that becomes active at different times. Ego states are parts of the personality that influence the decision-making process at different times. EPs or emotional parts are parts of the personality that hold traumatic material that can come forth when triggered. By definition they are subpersonalities. Meaning it is completely likely and reasonable for somebody with many EPs to differentiate them due to trauma and identity confusion. As well as completely likely for somebody with identity confusion to feel seperated from their parent and child ego states.
3. Its harmful to them
Uh, proof? From personal experience its helped me. I know people who it has helped. I'm sorry but your studies on why its bad does nothing to me when it's only been good for me. Over analyzing can be harmful to some people, yes, but polymindence is not about seperating your subpersonalities, its for those who already have.
I have no argument for those who think IFS isn't real, I'm not even going to bother with that one.
When I say anti-functional multiplicity arguments, I mean the people who think you cannot POSSIBLY exist with distinguished parts and be okay. That every form of seperation within oneself has to be disordered and be confusing and miserable. Which obviously, no, no it doesn't.
istg plz go touch grass. tell someone irl about this polymind stuff and see their reaction
My friends, (2) cousins, siblings, mom, and grandma know. So uhm, what now?
Maybe YOU should go touch grass, get a fucking hobby, or job, or what about friends? An INTERNET TERM talking about proven experiences, is not hurting anyone. Hell, even my THERAPIST knows, my therapist is actually encouraging it as we also practice IFS. The only reason you think polyminds are bad is because you think everything is specifically about you, not every term is copying you, people can have experiences.
Welcome to another this-is blog! I'm here to discuss discrimination against polyminds, mainly since I saw @this-is-pluralphobia got a few asks with polymindence.
What is Polymindence?
Polymind is a self-identifiable term that refers to a person that is capable of seeing their subpersonalities as unique individuals.
Here's a link to the polymind carrd for more information: link
What can be submitted?
Anything said against polymindence can be submitted! Be it anti-Endo sentiments redirected at us, "singlets just wanting to be special", or anything else!
General stances on plural spaces*
The stances held by the mod shall not be shared. All asks are welcome and will be tagged should they contain an expressly pro- or anti- stance regarding anything really. This is a vent space for polyminds in general and I do not wish to alienate anyone for their opinions, regardless of whether or not I agree with them.
*this is mentioned because a lot of what I've seen directly against polyminds is intertwined is greater syscourse, including a lot of polyminds being anti endo themselves.
Who is the mod?
Hello, I am Sin. I use it/its pronouns and am polymind. I run this blog on my own in my spare time so I apologize for however long it takes for me to add submissions and asks to the queue.
When do you update?
I aim for once a day at 12 pm est. At least for now. Once we get more asks on average, the schedule shall increase!
I hate the tumblr algorithm for this. 75% of popular "polymind blogs" should NOT be anti polymind! This js rllyyy pissed me off
It's because they use the term polymind in their pinned post, I think. Or maybe "anti polymind" is seen as a polymind tag. Either way, agreed, this fucking sucks
Did u fr just say alters are personalities.. do you believe in the mpd term theres a reason thats outdatedā¦.
ICD-11, and I left the code for you to look it up yourself. Also no I do not believe MPD is the correct term, it is a dissociative disorder not a personality disorder.
I said they're similar because one deals with alternative personality states and the other deals with subpersonalities being unique. But systemhood is a complex disorder and polymindence is an identity. Our experiences are not the same whatsoever.
Me saying the terms we use will be similar is not the same as me saying our experiences are similar. I feel like it wasn't that hard to understand that's what I meant and you're purposely being obtuse.
