Hello!! I'm asking some systems what they think syscourse achieves as a person who thinks it is ultimately useless.
So, what do you think the point of syscourse is? What does it achieve? What do you think it's meant to achieve?)
(This post is not an excuse to harass any systems or anybody. I am curious to see how people from all perspectives answer this! if it matters, I'm personally pro endogenic and willogenic. I don't believe origin matters! This is not an excuse for harassment. Please keep this respectful.)
Hello!! I'm asking some system blogs what they think syscourse achieves as a person who thinks it is ultimately useless.
So, what do you think the point of syscourse is? What does it achieve? What do you think it's meant to achieve?)
(For clarification, my stance is pro-endo, pro-willo. I don't care about origins.)
*takes a long drag off my bubble pipe*
Genuinely got no fucking clue mate. We can’t police what other people’s experiences are and we got no clue what’s in their heads, so why do it? Why try and take the whole colourful complicated human existence and shove it down to small boxes? The brain is a wonderful and weird thing, we don’t understand it. Let people (and nonpeople) just be people and nonpeople!
Most endos aren’t trying to say they have a disorder, so don’t react like they are. Resources aren’t scarce because of the “evil endos” they’re scarce because plurality in any form is hugely stigmatized. We have to remember that to most singlets we are all the same.
Hello!!
I'm asking some system blogs what they think syscourse achieves as a person who thinks it is ultimately useless.
So, what do you think the point of syscourse is? What does it achieve? What do you think it's meant to achieve?)
(For clarification, my stance is pro-endo, pro-willo. I don't care about origins.)
long post! I tried to break up the paragraphs as much as I could but yeah. no DNI on this post but keep in mind I have the same opinions as this asker and will delete your comments + block if you start getting nasty; I'd also prefer if any anti endos interacting don't follow or interact with the rest of my blog
TLDR: I think syscourse is useless too, not because of the IDEA of debating on community issues (good IMO) but because the execution never works out and is never GOING to work out unless we all get our shit together and stop fighting because Everything Kinda Sucks
I think before it devolved into Literally Just Origincourse (and now, specific to the Tumblr #syscourse tag, interpersonal stuff mainly with Sophie and like All of the popular syscoursers which she dislikes for reasons which I won't go over here for the sake of my own sanity) it was ok for discussion of system community issues and things that affect systems and plurals and pwCDDs alike? kind of? when it didn't get too argumentative at least
nowadays however the Tumblr tag is useless for both the people wrapped up in the Sophieinwonderland Vendetta Thing Arc (they're not gonna escape her lol, I don't like Sophie but I'll give her one thing and its that she is fucking DETERMINED) and unrelated bystanders who just wanted to debate (the tag is currently flooded with bots because of their endless every-TW-in-the-book filled beef which has been going on for the entirety of 2026 so far no joke,, wilted rose emoji)
I don't perchance think that the IDEA of syscourse is useless, the system and plural communities DO desperately need to actually talk about some of the internal bigotry going on in our communities and how we're actually gonna go forward and help each other as a community with the world getting increasingly difficult to persist in especially for a group like systems
its just that the execution and what its devolved into on Tumblr is... terrible. the actual syscourse tag is, again, less than useless because specific community figures like Sophie are caught up in interpersonal drama and getting revenge against Other Terrible People, I'm pretty sure the sysconversation tag is dead as hell (correct me if I'm wrong), and with the whole disturbingly hateful "antiwilloverse" gimmick block trend going around theres honestly not much hope anymore to actually be there for each other as a community of systems, plurals, pwCDDs who don't use either label, etc.
its unfortunate. its why I don't engage with the system community pretty much at all anymore outside of one server I've been an admin for since before I myself split as a specific alter, and its quite honestly just shameful. syscourse was never actually that useful, but I think we really could benefit from some honest conversation and ***FRIENDLY*** debate about community issues. too bad though, since honestly, quite a lot of people both pro- and anti- endo alike are too much of cowards to actually Help Thy Neighbor and yada yada
......yeah. that got long sorry. just my thoughts. I KNOW we could benefit from a far friendlier version of syscourse and sysconversation and just listening to each other even among stances on stupid shit, because no matter how much I hate anti endos, the world sucks right now and ALL systems are being affected by it. thats just the truth. I don't like people who don't carry the same opinions as me since my opinions are largely Don't Be A Bigot, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve a community and I think we really need to just stop with the stupid fucking endless drama in this community and make sure that the other systems we're aware of aren't fucking starving IRL
thank you for the ask! this was food for thought /positive
