Do you hear the people sing?

Our voices won’t be silenced.

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Take her to your bedroom Rhaenys!!!

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That part where Ibrahim recites one of his father’s proverbs to Kate. I don’t believe that with Kate’s level of education and knowledge, she wouldn’t know at least something about famous sayings from other cultures. Kate’s reaction looked very much like, “Kid, you think I didn’t already know that?”

I have to say, these two are not the kind of people who would ever hit it off in conversation🧐

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Princess🥰🥰

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About the Doctor Who "secrecy", in my country, there was a major drama that everyone expected to be a huge hit. The production team kept everything under tight wraps… and then it ended up being a massive flop.

They eventually realized that excessive secrecy only makes audiences lose interest and attention, especially when there are so many new shows coming out each year. So they tried to compensate by flooding the audience with promotional stills and material right before the premiere. But by then, it’s already too little, too late.

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Oh My presbyopia mommy🥰

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Welcome back Osgood! Don’t tell me none of you saw the resemblance to that other person🥹

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I’d like to ask: beyond simply "making Doctor Who", do the writers, producers, and the BBC itself have any other objectives or aspirations when creating the show?

For example, creating a strong female character who isn’t one of the Doctor’s companions and doesn’t rely on his "inspiration" to be capable? Aside from the fact that Kate is human and can’t travel through time and space at will, is there any real reason she absolutely has to remain within the Doctor’s "sphere of influence"?

In my last post, I asked if a consistently capable and strong female leader is going to appear in a British TV show these days, why couldn’t it be in Doctor Who? Why couldn’t it be Kate? Don’t they even dare to imagine it? Or does it go beyond the original creative intention of Doctor Who?

The unwritten rule in real life seems to be that women always come with all kinds of problems. But this is Doctor Who. We have a Time Lord with two hearts who keeps regenerating into a British, and even in that world, we still can’t have this kind of female leader?

With that kind of attitude and that "just get by and hope for the best" mindset, what’s the use of constantly shouting slogans about "exploring the character’s depth"? Do they even have anything of substance in their heads? How much ink is actually in their pens? Can they even write it?

Of course, besides lacking the technical skill, there’s also the fact that women are always treated as an afterthought, something to be adjusted and reassigned. Sure, they’ll say they want to explore the depth of a strong female character, but that’s never the priority. Women, just accept being reassigned. There are too many things that come before you. Transgender, environmental protection, climate change and interspecies are always ahead of you. They’d rather pair you up with a man in a romance than focus on you as yourself.

After more than a decade of being a golden supporting character, Kate Stewart’s been treated like this. No wonder the leads are so terrible. Without the supporting cast to back them up, what are the leads even worth?

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Love her jeans and shoes🥰

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The understanding and encouragement fans give to Doctor Who has only been met with increasingly worse quality in return.

The more tolerant fans are, the more Doctor Who thinks their standards are low, and just keeps feeding them the lowest possible quality. They think fans don’t deserve anything better than this. Fans never made demands before, but now that they’re starting to, the showrunners will just see them as being difficult and ungrateful

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Don’t tell me "it’s all just a choice" They had the choice, and they chose not to let Kate shine.And don’t tell me "they’re just fictional characters, why take it so seriously" Even with fictional characters at their mercy, they still won’t write Kate as truly capable. And don’t feel offended, I didn’t mention any of you at any point. Don’t feel that just because you’ve accepted the writers’ choices, your own choices are being disrespected, or that those who have an issue with it are coming after you personally.

A female leader who’s held a high position for years can only have a personal life in shambles. She can only bury herself in work to an obsessive degree, unable to break free. A woman who is fully, healthily invested in her work — who faces difficulties and crises with resilience, refusal to give up, calm composure, and effortless grace, retire with honor after success, or continue to contribute from within her role — could never exist.

Literature is all made up anyway, so why won’t they ever write a woman like that? They simply don’t believe such a female leader could exist, even in their wildest imagination.On top of that, they seem unwilling to let a charismatic supporting character naturally and effortlessly outshine the leads.They don’t create real work scenes for Kate, instead they use her as filler to pad out the runtime, and exiling her into a trendy "older woman, younger man" romance instead.

The writers lack the skill and are severely deficient in imagination and patience, to the point of falling into a fixed pattern of dependency. When there’s a ready-made, assembly-line template they can just copy, saving time and effort, why would anyone put in the work to actually craft a proper storyline for Kate?

And that’s still the better scenario. What’s worse is that they are unwilling to portray such a female leader as an inspiring icon worth emulating and following, whether for women in real life or for female characters within the story, they just want to watch her keep falling. They aren’t drawn to emotions that are positive, uplifting, or inspiring. What they seem to want is sympathy, sorrow, and pity.

In their eyes, is Kate simply not worthy of being that kind of radiant, accomplished woman? Are they not willing to allow such a woman to exist in television? What kind of people are the ones controlling the high ground of cultural and value output these days🙄

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Oh Jemma☺️

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My girl🥰🥰The same hairstyle as in the 50th anniversary special.

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pookie 🫰

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i frankly think you're ignoring the fact that the dichotomy between lyanna having to choose between either rhaegar or robert is unfortunately what was going to happen. she reasonably doesn't want to marry robert, so she rebels with what she sees as his polar opposite, the delicate harp playing rhaegar, she was a *teenager* and he seduced her.

i don't like rhaegar ships period because he's the shittest dude to ever do it but in a way more slimy way than robert, i dont think lyanna should be attacked as the fool here

It’s all just Martin’s old white male sickness acting up. He just wouldn’t let her go. He wouldn’t even give her a single female friend, or any kind of older female figure.

Any person can see that Lyanna was trapped way too tightly. No one should turn Lyanna’s rightful escape from Robert into some righteous decision to run to Rhaegar. No one should be able to whitewash Rhaegar taking advantage of her as somehow acceptable.Or to whitewash any of this as simply natural, as following Martin’s old white male logic, is that what we’re supposed to go along with?

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I'm just asking you not to be hypocritical. You talk about Lyanna's choices, but you don't hold back in calling her anything less than the worst. You and the Martell fans are scum. You revictimize Lyanna to feel better than Elia was brutalized.

Of course, fans don't owe obedience to Martin, nor to you. Your opinions only reveal misogyny; you criticize others for their tastes.

You just said I wasn’t an Elia fan a moment ago, but you keep bringing up her fans anyway. You mention them far more often than you even mention Lyanna. What exactly are you trying to do?

And what exactly did I say anything less than the worst to her? I didn’t go commenting under other people’s posts , and I didn’t send anyone anonymous questions. All I did was repeat what she did, and contrast it with the image her fans want to project of her. Criticizing Martin’s old white male logic is misogyny? When was he ever a feminist trailblazer? When did following his logic ever become feminism? Opposing him and his followers isn’t misogyny, it’s just common sense

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Okay, just write straight up. I want Lyanna to be brutalized and raped by Rhaegar rather than have made a wrong decision.

Stop pretending you care about Lyanna when you and other accounts haven't stopped making misogynistic comments about her.

If the author comes out tomorrow and says she did it willingly, you'll definitely continue to hate her and call her a slut.

Fake feminist, go see a psychologist. You're acting like a bitter woman who just got dumped.

Radical binary thinking……

You just want to believe that anyone who disagrees with you about Lyanna secretly wishes she’d be treated inhumanely. Look how smoothly you just threw out words like raped and brutalized…Even the haters looking to pick a fight wouldn’t stoop that low, but fans just toss it out there without a second thought. I think you’ve got it backwards. It’s the fans who only want to see her dead. The haters, ironically, are the ones still holding out hope for her

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I think fans like you and Elia fans prefer that Lyanna stay with Robert so she can suffer marital rape. Besides, you like the version where Lyanna is raped and brutalized by Rhaegar so she suffers the same as Elia Martell.

You say that Rhaelya fans don't understand Lyanna, but it seems you and Elia fans are the first ones to call her a slut and wish her dead.

What's your problem with Lyanna and Rhaelia? You're not an Elia fan either, but you're obsessed with them. What bothers you?

You and Elia fans are hypocrites who live by a fabricated morality, but you're the same ones who judge Lyanna.

The greatest dilemma Lyanna faced wasn't being betrothed to Robert, it was that she was given only two options: Robert or Rhaegar. And that dilemma wasn't just crafted by Martin. It's one you've imposed on her too.

In your minds, Lyanna is only worthy of choosing between a manwhore and a second-hand man.Anyone who criticizes Rhaegar, you assume must be rooting for Robert.

People trapped in a tower can only see the small patch of sky beyond the small window, they cannot see the whole sky. That small patch of sky is the last bit of defiance they have. But the tower itself? That’s their vast, sprawling cowardice.

Let me tell you a hard truth, there are always those who refuse to be limited by the little window Martin built. There are always those who open their eyes and look at the wider world. What you're really complaining about is why won’t everyone follow Martin’s logic? Why won’t everyone look at the world through that same small, narrow window? Wake up. You don’t have to be like that. You’re not a character in the book. You don’t owe Martin your obedience or your loyalty as a devoted follower.