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Episode Titles!

Trillium, Haven, Emigrants,

Found/Lost, Imperialis, Genesis, Hourglass, Tenebrae

So Genesis is episode 6 - the AU. Hourglass - you think you have run out of time but you can 'invert' it.

And we end with darkness, approaching Easter!

*EDITED OMG if you put the first letters of the episodes together you get The F/Light fight flight light? wow

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New DC clip, Negan meets Dillard

Exciting enough but it's a sea-related bar, you can see a boat, ship's wheel. Dillard says 'amigo'. There's a yellow rag on the bar top.. That's from watching it once so I'll be waiting to hear further analysis from you all!

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NR posts a bat and "red is a lie"

A cute video of the Honduran white bat grooming itself. Together with a song by Hawkwind about quarks.

'snow-white' fur, yellow markings, this bat builds 'tents' of leaves to hide in. It's not the first time NR has posted about bats.

The band Hawkwind was Lemmy before he made Motorhead. There's a lot of Motorhead for Daryl (and Merle). But Hawkwind are a calmer space rock type band. This song is about tiny particles that you cannot see but make up matter. Extrapolate this into systems/communities that look respectable but are something else underneath. Dead City vibes?

Red does not exist. It's something your brain has created to bring some sort of order to that wavelength. An illusion like the Emerald City, or a hallucination. But in DD 3.1 we have Daryl playing I Spy and saying he sees 'something red'. Is this implying now that what he thinks he saw wasn't reality? He's in a sort of 'warning' phase, that feeling of something is wrong but not sure what. He's already remembering his childhood, is there something he blocked out. And then, is there something in Coda or the 17 days he's remembering wrong? Or is the warning about Carol and that she's hiding something?

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Strawberries - give us hope NR

Norman posted a mood picture on Instagram. He's working in Japan at the moment. But this could have been any fruit and it's strawberries!

I know it's quiet these days so we have to find meaning in whatever we can get :)

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Jesus in the boatyard in DD 3.3? (edited)

Does this boat say Jesus on the side??

We can at least make out JESU before the vines are hiding it. It almost looks like the leaves are making a figure lying there, with their arm out to the right. There is indeed a walker underneath as it pushes out after Daryl shoots his rifle.

In the full shot our focus is very much drawn to the 7CO... as the zoom in continues we are reading those numbers instead of looking straight ahead at the other boat.

After the walkers are roused, Daryl starts killing them. On the left here we have the walker from the Jesus boat, with hair. On the floor is a walker just killed, it was hiding behind the Jesus boat. It's got jeans on and yellow shirt, and lands in a position very much like Beth in Rick's hallucination.

Does this graffiti say anything?

Update - google wanted to be TD

The spanish form of canizo uses accents, cañizo. And ships would also use accents. It's very possible for a portuguese boat to have sailed around here. We did also have NR mention in an interview that they filmed a little something in Portugal for s4. It would be very TWD to have something like this hiding in plain sight, the illusion of Spain/Oz making us think one thing when actually it's another.

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Connecting DD and Apples with the Wizard of Oz

Dorothy and the Scarecrow see apple trees and start picking some. The trees are not happy about this and fight back. They trick the trees into throwing apples at them, and when collecting the apples Dorothy finds Tin Man.

Tin Man wants to get a heart. In symbolism terms this can mean find an emotional connection, a meaning beyond survival.

So first we have the apple temptation, the instant gratification of picking apples. Then they have consequences to deal with, all was not as it seemed. After overcoming that, they find the character that focuses on meaning.

DD s1.1

We saw this in the first Daryl Dixon episode. The first people he meets, offer a trade of food for first aid. Daryl agrees and then dives into the apples. But then come the consequences and betrayal.

After that, Isabelle comes. She is the one that leads Daryl to find meaning and emotional reasons rather than just surviving.

The apple symbolism has been spoken about before but I really wanted to include this link up. I won't be surprised if Daryl has another apple moment in s4, and after dealing with consequences discovers a sign of Beth.

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Daryl's emotional journey mapped in France?

In 1.1 we see a map at the abbey. There's a route mapped out to take Laurent to Paris. I'm combining screenshots from 1.2 when Codron looks at the map.

Here's the planned route to Orleans and then to Paris. Followed by their actual detour route. They might or might not have passed through Perigueux.

Labels

We get the radio frequency in MHz, along with a name in French. The order here is South to North. A short wave means you get a clearer message but you have to be nearer, local bandwidths. A long wave will reach further but can drop details as the message is sent.

First we see Jupiter has the longest wavelength. That implies it's far reaching, able to control over a long way. It's also one of the old labels, implying it's been there for some time. Then we have Poseidon, the Greek god that keeps stopping Odysseus from getting home. Titanium was so named after the Greek Titans, a powerful and chaotic group that were usurped by the more controlled Zeus and the Olympians. Tango also has a long wavelength, signifying its influence. However it's not marked on the route on the abbey wall, but Isabelle says there might be a radio. This is where they are at the beginning of episode 1.3 and meet the crazed conductor.

This is super important, because they went on that diversion,( and we are assuming episode 1.2 with the school was around Agen, which is near Cahors), to head straight to Angers now they bypass the labels from Titanium to Poseidon. From Angers they go straight to Paris. The camera shows us the details on the map when Daryl is asking about the route, specifically the bravo-carbon labels, and tango is just seen on the edge.

I think it means for Daryl to really complete his journey he has to go through all the steps before he can understand the proper meaning of Paris.

Elements meanings

Titanium - for starters this metal has atomic number 22. 22 we first saw on Shane's necklace but it's been everywhere in DD. Titanium itself is a very strong, lightweight, corrosion-resistant and used in armour, medical implants. Symbolism wise it can mean endurance, resilience and survival strength.

Palladium - this is a rare, valuable metal. It's used as a catalyst, which means it enables other substances to have a reaction without being used itself. It can also be found in electronics. Symbolism gives us something that enables transformation without being seen.

Carbon - the basis of all organic life. It bonds easily, forming more complex structures. It has a 'dual nature', by forming as graphite, a soft material, or as diamond, a very hard substance. This symbolism is life, and adaptability of identity.

Mercury - a liquid metal. It shifts shape easily, it's toxic, and it's conductive. Symbolism includes transformation, fluidity, movement and danger.

Adding the myth layer

Since the labels are mixing pure elements with mythology, I shall do the same. As already noted, titanium is from the Greek titans, they were very powerful but chaotic, brutal, and destructive. And note that they were overcome. Recall this was a longwave frequency, it sounds very much like the TWD surviving rather than living.

The etymology of Palladium gives us very interesting information. It comes from the name Pallas, who was a sea nymph. Her father was Triton and his father was Poseidon. After Athena was born Triton became her foster parent, and the two girls learned together and were very close. During an athletics showcase, Zeus feared Athena was losing so he distracted Pallas with the Aegis. Athena fatally impaled her by accident. After this, Athena created a statue, the likeness of her friend holding the Aegis, and called this the palladium. She also took Pallas as a title.

The palladium was in the city of Troy, protecting it. Helenus made a prophecy that the city would not fall while the statue was inside the walls. During the Trojan war the Greeks got hold of this information and Odysseus and Diomedes stole the statue. Troy does indeed fall after losing divine protection. Later, in the Aeneid, it is brought to Rome by Aeneas.

The word palladium came to mean anything that provided protection or safety, and especially in Christian contexts could be sacred relics. In this case for DD, the palladium can be a literal object providing protection, but it could also be a meaning. Athena created it out of loss and to keep her memory going. We've seen Daryl struggle to understand what home means to him. However his journey did not make it to the palladium destination, so the protection remains invisible. He has not yet realised the truth. The palladium itself is often under protection, such as being within the Troy walls or behind emotional walls.

Mercury the element was named after the god, also know as Hermes in Greek. He is mainly known for being the quick messenger god. That means he brings information to people, but he can also pass through boundaries. He moves between worlds, life and death, and truth or illusion. He's also a trickster, and the guide of souls. Mercury can carry information but decide about passing all of it on or withholding some. On the map this is representing Le Havre, which is the port the ship comes into and is all controlled by Genet. In 1.1 Isabelle also says they hear rumours of ships there.

In DD we've seen Codron move between places and carry information very much like Mercury. Now we know he is back in DD s4 he can give Daryl some more messages. Who knows what he went through to get to Spain.

Poseidon is causing chaos for Daryl's journey just like he did to Odysseus. He's already been shipwrecked twice. Even if Daryl has avoided Orleans, Poseidon still catches him. I'm not fully sure what needs to happen to fulfil his arc there. But I do notice it's after Jupiter on the route, and that reminds me again of the Odyssey where even after he gets home, he has to take a rudder inland to sate Poseidon.

A little bonus here - at the school in 1.2 Daryl has just returned with Lou, ones of the lost boys (Hedgehog) and the supplies. Isabelle comes to greet them and we see this broken yellow car, with a cross in the window and Poseidon written on the side. Would love to hear all your theories about that!

Finally, Daryl never made it to the Jupiter location. So there's still a mystery controller. The long long wave can almost read like destiny, that it didn't matter what he was doing short term, his journey was always being guided to this point.

If we bring back the wizard of oz thoughts, Daryl is still under an illusion, controlled by this wizard Jupiter. Only by an innocent (Toto) pulling back the curtain AND him understanding his palladium, aka the power of the ruby slippers, can he see the truth and find his home, his life, in Paris.

My brain is fried now so I'm sure a missed a few bits and pieces but enjoy and leave your thoughts!

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Weirdness around Emile's death in DD2?

What we saw

Emile was from the rooftop group, he and Fallou came to help the gang get Laurent safely to the Nest in s1. He was interested in Sylvie when he met her, telling her Paris is the place to imagine. His grandmother was an Argentine refugee and taught him to dance and to fight for freedom. Sylvie kisses him before leaving for the Nest.

In s2 we hear Genet has kidnapped some of the rooftop group, including Fallou and Emile. Daryl helps rescue them. They are all visibly shaken or hurt. Sylvie gives Emile a trim and checks for injuries, he has none. He says "I made a deal with God to bring me back to you."

Laurent is gone and Emile is part of the group to follow the trail. He appears with the radically short haircut. Sylvie gives him her cross necklace before he goes. At the mill the Nest people turn on Daryl and Fallou. Isabelle has Daryl's back, and Fallou is on the floor asking Emile to help him. Fallou subdues the attacker and Emile turns the gun on him. He reveals that he was not tortured but forced to watch his allies be experimented on. If Laurent left with Daryl, all they had been through would be "Meaningless. Everything we did." . Emile is still hesitating, Fallou says he can still find salvation. Emile says "she said I'll be tempted. She said to be strong," . Fallou distracts him and Isabelle grabs Emile's gun. He kneels on the floor and holds Sylvie's necklace, waiting. The camera closes in on Isabelle, taking the gun out of shot as she takes a breath. Next we hear the shot from outside and see birds taking off. The mill picture is very prominent, almost looking like an X.

What we didn't see

A burial, emotional fallout, placing of the body, nothing. The next time we see these three they are waiting for the tide outside the Nest. Isabelle does not show any turmoil at having killed Sylvie's boyfriend. Fallou also expresses no thought about it. That alone is suspicious.

The fact they have to wait for the tide also shows they have time enough to bury his body. We've seen even in DD alone how time is spent to honour the dead, from the nuns at the abbey, the schoolteacher, to a later episode where Daryl buries Didi. Daryl did not bury Isabelle, and that was even brought up in dialogue as Genet says they found the nun. We could see Daryl walking fast and the important rush he was in.

Is Emile maybe not dead? He had a cross necklace similar to Beth's cross bracelet. The name of the episode is Moulin Rouge, in the film it's the girl that dies, and she tells him to keep going and tell their love story. In the next DD episode Sylvie dies.

Even if he is dead, it's strange they did not show us what they did with him, and is possibly something to address. There's a few loose ends still in France; Daryl's vest was last at the Nest, Sabine disappeared after the plane took off, Maribelle the girl that killed Codron's brother. It's possible we will have some Codron flashbacks as to what he was up to before arriving in Spain, that might cover some of this. But also, don't be surprised if we go back to France, there's the Dead City filming location of Paris after all.

Women behind the curtain

During Emile's speech, he mentions "she said I'd be tempted". It turns out that Jacinta organised this fake kidnapping and attack on Daryl herself, so she could keep pushing Losang to bring the ceremony forward. We then have Sabine taking over from Genet after her death, and in flashback it was Sabine in charge of the janitor's industrial action. Eventually it's these two women who are still alive and trying to stop Laurent from leaving. Again we have a teasing death of Jacinta shooting herself except we don't see it.

Behind the curtain is the wizard of Oz reference. We've had two examples in the France DD seasons, and both women. However notice that Daryl was not under their illusions. Perhaps there is still another woman to uncover.

P.S. I've got some cool information about the map on the abbey wall but will put that in a separate post!

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AMC posts - remember these people.. and s5?!

Okay here's a few of the latest posts on twitter from Feb 28th, Mar 4th. I don't think Maggie has actually felt comfort or relaxed since Glenn has gone. But here's another reference to the bear and the Maggie = Artemis parallel. For Daryl's video, I thought it was mainly to promote DD, but we do get Beta down the elevator shaft. Also some comments do talk about Daryl's battle with his past trauma.

Mar 9th, we have walkers Shane, Ginny, Sylvie, Sophia. In Instagram we also have Siddiq and Negan with Lucille. A reminder that if we don't see a character specifically buried or with their brain stem destroyed, we see them as a walker? Apart from we never saw either happen to Beth? From an emotional impact you'd include Merle in these pictures so I think a different message is being aimed at than just the initial text.

Mar 13th, we have Then (TWD) and Now for Carol(DD), Morgan (FTWD), Hershel (DC), and Gabriel (TOWL). Also note that baby Hershel has Maggie and Rick in his picture. Are they reminding us of these characters because they are going to appear shortly? Specifically Morgan and Gabriel, who are connected by the s5 Gabriel's church.

Mar 20th, call back to s5x03 - Four Walls and a Roof. AMC are reminding us not only of s5 but that questions get answered, villains like Gareth and Martin get resolved, the red machete, and this scene Daryl is not there because he's looking for Beth!

Individually these posts are a bit of fun, but putting them together and looking behind the obvious meanings, and character choices, we can get a lot of hints about s5, returns, people being dead or not. The last post is actually reminding us of TWD's own rules, and then we can look for something that hasn’t been fulfilled yet.

But please AMC give us an airing date to aim for!

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NR is quiet.. but post-production proof?

If you didn't know, congrats to the DD team for winning the Saturn award for best limited series! NR went to America and attended the event, and made a speech.

Weirdly, he's not posted anything on his social media about the win.

What he has posted is this intriguing photo:

Bloody intestines? it looks like TWD. In the top corner it says ..nd Turnover.

So to Google: -> In post-production, a turnover (often referred to as "turning over the edit") is the process of handing over a locked, edited project from the editorial team to specialised departments—such as sound, colour, or visual effects (VFX)—for final finishing.

I think it's saying 'Sound Turnover'.

So he's reviewing some post-production. Probably DD? But could be DC for his curiosity, just because we somewhat recently saw one of the DC actors share they are post-production. Maybe this is why we haven't had any trailers yet, if both shows are still in edits.

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AMC is promising a happy Daryl future

Looks like we have Daryl either in the whisperer caves or the Acheron tunnels.

Carol is in the Channel Tunnel, facing her trauma.

Also note how they put TWDU not the DarylDixon tag - implying it's a wider scale future. On the previous post (video of Negan) it was tagged DeadCity only.

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The Three Julians

We know how meaningful it is when there are multiple uses of the same name, now we've had 3 of these in DD. I only recently caught the first one so now we have our rule of 3s.

Julien the missing brother - s1e2

The first Julien we meet is represented by an empty chair at the dinner table, at the French school Daryl visits. Laurent goes to sit there and Moof says that's for my brother. We hear that Lou, Herisson and Julien went on a raid, but only Lou came back. She told the others they had gone on a mission. Later, Daryl discovers an alive Herisson. After Daryl falls into the moat of walkers, Moof spots his brother, and asks for help to put him to rest. Daryl shoots him with his crossbow.

Julien the domestic partner - s2e2

Carol meets the second Julien along with his husband Remy. They are looking to go to Maison Mere. All of them are chosen however Julien is sent in a different truck. In the next episode Remy betrays Carol in order to get Julien back, and we last hear they were being driven back to Paris. Julien grew up on a farm.

Julian the last Englishman - s3e1

Julian Chamberlain descends from above, brings rabbits and meets both Daryl and Carol. Julian joined the Royal Naval College but quit as he couldn't handle the pressure during long navigation. He was saving up money but the outbreak happened just as he felt ready to look for a partner. He's been alone for years, gets around London on rooftops by ropes, and learned how to ring Big Ben. Eventually we see him successfully navigate the boat into the ocean, stating they are exactly where they should be. Unfortunately a storm comes, Julian gets hit on the head by his own boat, and after they all crash land he is a walker. He's put down and sent out to sea at rest.

Julian/Julien etymology

This name stems from Julianus -> Julius. The most famous being Julius Caesar. It is associated with Latin roots meaning "youthful" or "juvenile". The Roman clan Julia claimed to be descended from Venus (as I wrote in a post about Aeneas).

Chamberlain is from an Old French word, literally meaning chamber attendant. This became 'keeper of the chamber' also known as a steward, or treasurer. This person would be a trusted officer of their lord.

Theories?

Each Julian is at a specific time of their life. This can equate to the maiden, mother and old crone. That is a symbol of Hecate, the goddess of doorways into liminal spaces. Bells are also associated with her. It could be that each Julian is leading Daryl and Carol to a specific place. They each meet a Julien in France, and then together they meet Julian in England, and he is the one that tells them 17 days and that they are where they are supposed to be.

Also, their states could represent Beth. We have the brother, equating to s2-3 where she was seen as Maggie's sister only. The domestic partner, we briefly see this in Alone with Daryl. That leaves the final Julian, the lone survivor. These meanings could also apply to Daryl; before Merle died, again domesticity in Alone, and then the lone survivor as Beth prophecised.

I'd love to hear some more ideas now that we know there is the power of 3! @twdmusicboxmystery @galadrieljones

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Sir Daryl the Knight

I definitely agree that Daryl is following a Odysseus template. However, when it comes to the love part, I don't think it quite maps. Odysseus was already together with Penelope, he knew he'd left her alive, and throughout his journey to get home he acknowledges his love for her and openly weeps.

Another tragic Greek symbol is Orpheus, I'm sure we all agree Daryl would venture into the underworld for Beth. But their love was requited, Orpheus knew for sure how much he loved Eurydice and grieved for her openly.

In contrast, Daryl has buried Beth so deeply that he's not even hinted about her in 10 odd years. He misses her and thinks about her all the time. But he has not acknowledged what she meant to him, because to open yourself up to love makes you vulnerable. Together with Daryl's low self-esteem stemming from his childhood he's not going to think he's worthy or possibly even capable of not just love, but a romantic relationship with Beth. You can't overcome something if you haven't accepted what it truly was. So we see Daryl continue wandering.

Another thought I had about this - Daryl is a protector. And he failed to protect Beth not once but twice. Perhaps he feels he does not even deserve to grieve Beth, to dare say her name. Maybe there was a third time he feels he failed, during the 17 days, failed to bury her and put her to rest. If they think she woke up as a walker and got out of the car, that would be pretty horrific.

My prediction for DD s4 has Daryl complete his childhood flashbacks until he realises he did nothing wrong and can have self worth. Only then can he think about Beth in a romantic partner manner, remember what happened at Grady and the 17 days, understand he did the best he could, and grieve finally.

Fisher King

I asked GPT for a similar myth role that felt like Daryl's repressed and unknown wandering. It came up with the Fisher King. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_King This is a legend from around King Arthur times.

The Fisher King suffered from a wound, often portrayed as the thigh or the groin. Due to this ailment he was unable to walk or ride, and spent his time just fishing, while waiting for a 'chosen one' to heal him. The lands of his kingdom remain barren, an empty wasteland. It is said he has a grail (later versions make it the holy grail) and other items like a lance, a silver platter.

In Chrétien's Perceval, Perceval comes to the castle but fails to ask the healing question. Chrétien did not finish the story of Perceval, and there are multiple variations of a follow up story. There is one such version that caught my eye.

The Lancelot-Grail (Vulgate) prose cycle has a prophecy that Galahad will be able to heal the fisher king. Lancelot is tricked in order to conceive the child with the king's daughter Elaine, and flees afterwards. Galahad is raised by his aunt in a convent until he is eighteen, where he then joins King Arthur's court and uses his virtuousness and purity to get the Holy Grail and cure the king. He asks the right question.

(Bonus: What is the question? Something along the lines of, "what's your wound".)

Perceval

I said Daryl is a knight. I think he is both Perceval and the fisher king at the same time.

In the Perceval of Wales story he has been raised in the woods away from people. He comes across a group of knights and wants to join them. He goes to King Arthur's court, where a girl predicts greatness for him. Kay, another knight, taunts him, but Perceval kills a troublesome knight and takes his vermillion armour. He sets out and trains under Gornemant, and also falls for and rescues Gornemant's niece Blancheflor (white flower).

Perceval meets the fisher king and has dinner with him. During dinner there is a procession of objects: bleeding lance, candelabra, graal(grail), and a silver platter. He has learned from his guardian to not talk too much, so he does not ask anything. On the way home he encounters a girl in mourning whom says he should have asked about the grail, as it would have healed the king. He is admonished a second time later by a lady at Arthur's court whom gives the knights quests. He is not heard from for the rest of that poem.

Continuing Perceval's story in the Lancelot-Grail version, he spends his time wandering, trying to get to the castle again, wondering what the question is. Eventually he teams up with Galahad whom cures the Fisher King.

We've seen lots of Daryl as a knight action, not least his protector role of rescuing people. In DD s3 alone we've had a successful rescue, a side quest of finding water, a motorbike/gun version of a horse/lance jousting event, a dragon, and a story of St George a knight. He's proficient with the morning star, a very medieval weapon.

Another tradition is a knight would carry a token or handkerchief from their lady. Daryl is well known for his rag. And what did we see in Inmates? He gave it to Beth.

So I think we have 2 Daryl's here. The heart of Daryl and his emotional repression he has about Beth reflects the Fisher King, he cannot voice it himself nor heal himself. He's waiting for the right question. And until that happens, he is in a wasteland.

Then we have the knight. This is the body of Daryl we see protecting people, wandering, unable to settle. This is Perceval after he's visited the castle and seen the grail but did not know what it was at the time. He was unable to ask the question due to his upbringing. Now he has to find the castle again but more importantly, find the right question to ask.

Maybe Laurent (the pure) can help Daryl as he helps both characters in the story.

Hope you enjoyed reading this if you made it to the end! Would love to hear all your thoughts :)

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AMC ~ Valentine's Day

These shots are all from the spinoffs.

They've gone for Richonne, Carol and Antonio, Negan and Lucille, Isabelle and Daryl. To not include Maggie and Glenn is pretty specific.

So Lucille and Isabelle are both dead. This shot of Lucille is I believe from DC which means this is the hallucination version. Lucille and Isabelle are looking like they are placed quite close to each other, sort of blurring them together. And then we had Norman even say in interview that Daryl didn't love Isabelle.

If we merge Lucille and Isabelle in the middle, we get Negan -> Beth -> Daryl.

Any other theories?

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Another AMC DD quote

New :

Usually Daryl is the reactive type, when there's been injustice or provocation he will then punch, but he doesn't decide to march in on something wrong. Even in the most recent Spain season, he knew La Ofrenda was dodgy but didn't move to step in. It was only when Roberto was really injured (and sitting against the car in the callback to 'you're my brother' in A) that Daryl went after Justina. And that was a personal thing rather than going after the corrupt system. If we are right that Beth is trapped/sleepwalking in a system, are we seeing a clue that Daryl is going to actively poke a hole in it?

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Question: Alone flowers

Does anyone know what the yellow flowers are called that we see in Alone? I just saw a pic from the location and those flowers don't exist there at all so they must have picked something specific. If anyone has a good screenshot I can try comparing with other pics .. youtube is only giving me blurry screenshots.

And also confirmation the grave they stop at is fully a prop so all the dates/numbers on that was chosen by the Powers that Be.

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Option: Yellow chrysanthemums

This is an excellent suggestion from @marybethyl, these flowers are full of meaning.

In many European/Asian cultures these are a funeral flower. The yellow signifies unresolved grief, remembrance without closure, and mourning that lingers.

The flowers themselves bloom late, survive in the cold, and appear when other flowers are gone. Symbolically this signifies: truth after devastation, clarity that comes too late and endurance after collapse. They're associated with “What remains when everything else is stripped away” aligning itself with survivors, witnesses, and people who carry memory forward. This all sounds very Coda related.

In East Asia; chrysanthemum = sun flower and yellow = life force, clarity, spiritual light. It's steady illumination, like candles and lanterns.

In Japan, chrysanthemums are tied to: impermanence, acceptance of mortality, and dignity in death. This is not about violence in death, but they symbolise acknowledged death. This is what we see on the surface for Hershel.

In Western flower language: yellow flowers often mean friendship, how Beth and Daryl are in Alone. But yellow chrysanthemums can also mean: neglected love, sorrow between close bonds, joy stained by grief. That's more foreshadowing of Coda.

Overall, yellow chrysanthemums are a liminal flower as they sit between life and death, hope and mourning, presence and absence. Around Beth it implies death that is not final, mourning based on incomplete truth, light preserved rather than extinguished, someones held in remembrance rather than buried. They are not a romantic flower but a patient flower. “We grieve you — but something endures.”

@galadrieljones

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AMC Daryl + Isabelle post

The subtitle is very Bethyl - hidden in plain sight?

Ran some analysis through GPT.

'You know you were right'. Acknowledging a truth that existed before the meeting. It's initiation language, 'you recognised what I already was'.

Wall = confinement/boundary, Isabelle's hand = seeking belief, Daryl's hand over it, no eye contact = trust with no explanation. It's shared liminality between worlds. It mirrors earlier hand through barrier imagery as a threshold motif we have seen in prisons, hospital corridors, elevator shafts.

'Here' means within confinement. Finding something inside captivity = revelation. Truth found before escape = foreshadowing. It's over Isabelle's face, implying she is the one whom found something. This type of line often precedes release, loss, sacrifice, passing the truth to someone else. This is what we next see happen to Isabelle.

Overall it’s saying:

Isabelle prepares Daryl for what comes next

She is a mirror, not a destination. A witness, not an endpoint.

Why AMC chose THIS moment to tease

Because it subtly reframes:

Daryl’s journey as recognition, not replacement

Connection as activation, not substitution

“Finding someone” as finding the truth they reflect

Which is crucial if the story intends:

reunions

returns

threshold crossings

legacy characters re-entering

General audience:

“Daryl finds hope through Isabelle.”

Symbol-literate audience:

“Daryl is reminded who he already was — just in time to cross a gate.”

This teaser isn’t about who he found. It’s about what finding does to him. And notably… the post never says he found something. It says she did. That matters.

-> Do we think Isabelle told something to Carol? She had time to discover something in Losang's office and there was time between Carol and Isabelle for more conversation that we saw.

@4thenorthstar ^ Carol lying theme