a conversation with tinnie
Deep thoughts. New ideas. Constant movement. Sudden epiphanies. Being consumed by nostalgia. The urge to be impulsive. The former are just a few of the words that come to mind when I think of my friend, Tinnie.
Now, listen, she is not like the rest of us. In fact, she is the literal epitome of āunusualā, as her distinctive name itself may suggest. I mean, have you ever met a girl named Tinnie before? She may come across as your typical Swedish blue-eyed gal at first, but once you get to know her, a gate to a world of eccentrities and excitement is opened, and your life will never be the same again. Itās difficult to pinpoint what it is about her that makes her stand out from a crowd, but no matter what, you will always find her. I can safely say that I would not be the person I am today had I not become friends with Tinnie.
I first met her in fifth grade when we were both just 11 years old. I saw her from afar and thought she looked really cool, exactly the kind of girl I wanted to be. This was the thought that occurred to me before I had even talked to her and only attempted to scratch the surface. However, my first impression of her was somewhat accurate because, for reasons beyond my own control, we ended up hanging out almost every day after school and before either of us noticed, eight years sitting in my room or hers, talking about the most insane shit that had ever crossed either of our minds, had passed... All in the blink of an eye. Our main source of bonding remains unknown to this day, but perhaps it could be our mutual, and rather odd, perceptions of the world and everything within it, as well as our shared endeavors of hopeless romanticism and the (sub)conscious determination to never accept reality for what it truly is.
I wanted to interview Tinnie because sheās an incredibly important element in me finally bringing this magazine together as both her and I have always obsessed over ā90s editorials, and it would just be ludicrous of me to leave her out of the very first issue. Aside from that, she is one of the most interesting people I have ever met who is always burning with the uttermost passion to laugh, dance, scream, cry, and to exist. Plus, she is incredibly photogenic, regardless of what she might have to say about it. So, here is our one-and-a-half-hour-long conversation ā which got rather cynical and dismal at times (as our conversations often do) ā transcribed. Enjoy.
So, Tinnie, why do you love dancing so much?
(laughs in confusion) I donāt know... Iāve been doing it since I was a little kid. I couldnāt tell you if I wanted to. I canāt put words on it. Itās a way of self-expression for me. But you know what, I barely dance seriously nowadays... I just do it because itās fun. But thatās exactly why I dance ā because itās fun. Why else would you do it? You donāt need to take everything so seriously all the time.
Youāre right. Thatās something we do a lot ā we just laugh at everything because why bother?
Yeah, even though it can be hard sometimes. But instead of feeling sorry for myself, I just try to focus on the fun parts of it all. Thatās also why itās important to have people in your life who you can laugh and have fun with, especially if youāre like me and good at getting yourself in a bad mood and just being negative. I saw a video the other day where this skateboarder who hadnāt skated for years tried doing a trick he used to be really good at, but then he fell and broke his ankle. Despite that, everybody around him was just like ālook how happy he is...ā. He broke his foot, the ambulance got there and he was hurting really bad, but they didnāt turn it into a big deal because they were all in a positive mindset. He was just like āfuck it! At least I tried. The wound will heal in no timeā, you know? Itās important to not let the little things get to you.
What else really moves you?
Uh... I would say boats. Iām sorry, what was the question? Illnesses. Diseases. Snakes.Ā
I mean positive things...
Doing make-up. I donāt know... I like it because Iām creative, I guess. Itās also one of the few things that allows my mind to fully focus because itās something that Iām really interested in. Thatās just the way my mind works. (pause, she remembers something) Iām just like that guy in The Stone Roses.
You know, the interview where theyāre asking him a bunch of questions and heās just like āI donāt know... Iām just doing what I think is fun...ā (uncontrollable laughter follows)
How would you define the word āyouthā?
Fun. You can do whatever the hell you want. Freedom. Peace. A pain in the ass...
What do you mean by that?
You know, when youāre young, you just donāt have any real responsibilities. What do I mean by āpeaceā? Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch. (laughs as sheās thinking about their song of the same name) Just listen to that song.
And why is it āa pain in the assā?
Because itās just so... Thereās this stigma around being a teenager, that you have to have fun and you have to drink, you have to do this and that. You know? Thatās something that everybody says is all a part of being a teenager... (covers her head and mimicks her head exploding) Nobody cares. It doesnāt matter if youāre 40 or 14 years old when you start drinking. (laughs) Why am I talking about alcohol? This doesnāt have anything to do with it...
What is a song that radiates good vibes for you?
āGood Vibrationsā (another Marky Mark song). Just kidding. Iām not obsessed with him, okay? I would say āKeep on Smilināā by NKOTB. I just get happy when I hear it. I always listen to the words. The song is just really positive. I love it.
Whatās your favorite scent of anything?
Chocolate. (laughter) No, let me think a little... Something from my childhood probably. I canāt remember though.
What about your essential oils?
Dragonās blood! Definitely. It just smells so good.
What movie will you never get tired of?
āDirty Dancingā. It just reminds me of summer.Ā
What is your main goal right now?
Graduating. Getting my fucking diploma. Really. Just getting my certificate. (gets all excited) In one year, I might have my certificate!! I havenāt thought that long ahead... You saw the joy in my eyes, right? I might start crying right now. Iāll get my diploma and it will say ācertified make-up artistā on it... Wait, I just got really excited about school! I might actually bawl my eyes out if I receive my certificate at graduation. Iāll pass out. Iāll die.
If you could go back to a decade, which one would you choose?
The ā80s. The whole decade was great from beginning to end, from 1980 to 1989.
What is it about the ā80s?
There was good music everywhere. Good shit was happening all the time (not allll the time though). You could go to all these incredible concerts. Everything just seemed so fun and happy. There was life all around.
Whoās your biggest inspiration?
My mom. Sheās just really good at teaching me how to direct my thinking, to have a more positive mindset. Ugh, it sounds so clichĆ©... (āDreamsā by The Cranberries starts playing in the background) And thatās my momās favorite song. My mom is basically the reason that Iām still going to school, the only reason behind my motivation. She always asks me questions like āwhy do you do the things you do?ā so I would reflect on them and come to my own conclusions. Sheās my inspiration for everything.
Letās get deep now... What do you really think of our generation?
People our age tend to be addicted to their phones and social media, which eventually leads to them suffering from really bad social anxiety. Weāre just so overwhelmed. All the time. I donāt feel like I relate to our generation. You know, Iād rather be a teenager in like 2008 than right now.
Really? For me itās the opposite. I feel like people our age are finally beginning to realize that we should put our phones down sometimes and try to live in the moment more.Ā
Yeah, thatās true. I noticed this when I was in Greece, how people our age would just be out and having fun, and actually talk to each other. But then the part where we try to make friends is so different from what it used to be, you know, like asking for someoneās number? Nobody does that anymore. Our generation asks for socials. And then people just text each other, they donāt talk. (holds her head in distress) Weāre all so heavily influenced by social media...
Yeah, people try to change themselves and fit in with how people look on social media...Ā
Songs trend for 15 minutes and people listen to them solely because everybody else is doing it.
Yeah. People canāt relax and have a really hard time being themselves because theyāre so affected by it all. Theyāre influenced by everything they see on social media ā what everybody else is doing, what theyāre wearing, what they look like...
You mean, instead of trying to find themselves, they are busy looking for ways to better adjust themselves to the rest? To be socially accepted by people on the internet?
Exactly! Nowadays, itās just... What we kind of talked about before, people are so serious all the time, and they have trouble with looking at things with more positivity.
I think our generation is just really tense all the time because we have to put up with so much, like global warming and all this shit with social media...Ā
Yeah, it has a lot to do with all these apps. People are constantly stressed about everything they see and everything they read on there.
Everything just seems to feel more real, much more direct, because we can so easily obtain all of this information. It feels like weāre living it all.
I was just watching an interview with this older singer and he was talking about how nowadays, we have all this easy access to things but back then they couldnāt look up all these small things that, at the end of the day, didnāt matter. They just minded their own business.
Weāre all so caught up with everyone elseās lives instead of focusing on our own problems because weāre constantly being fed all this information on social media. Itās all there, handed to us on a silver platter. I remember reading somewhere how we as human beings are not made for this kind of world, how our brains just canāt handle it ā no wonder weāre all so stressed! People are overwhelmed because itās not in our nature to deal with this many things all at once.
Yeah. Thereās not that many people who realize that thatās the problem. Itās scary.
People in this day and age donāt seem to think a lot, like really think, because we spend so much time on the internet.
Theyāre reading what others are posting on social media, and all the comments that follow.
Yeah, and they might not notice that theyāre being influenced by it all. But they are. Itās going to leave a mark. The way weāre following all these celebrities and retrieving information about them every day stimulates our brains too much. People have trouble sleeping because their brains are activated all the time.
Yeah, I know people like that. They always tell me āyou donāt get it... Thereās so many other things going on, thatās why I canāt sleepā, and theyāre partially right, of course there are other things that affect it too, but the worst thing is that theyāre looking at their phones all the time.
Thatās what worsens it by a 100.Ā
The older people, they get it. People our age are so ignorant towards them. They just think, āugh, my grandma is nagging me so much about my phoneā, but theyāre actually right.
Just sitting and talking for hours without looking at a screen with someone is rare these days. Disconnecting yourself completely seems almost impossible to do.
The contrast between then and now is scary, too. The first thing we think of when we wake up is āI need to check how many likes this post got last nightā, āwho has seen my story?ā, āhas anyone texted me?ā, whereas back then, it was much more laid-back and not all that intrusive. People werenāt concerned about the whole world.
Yeah, they were more focused on their own doings, their own friends and own life. A lot of teenagers nowadays have trouble finding themselves, but then they spend their time scrolling on TikTok and watching videos like āsometimes I want to be this, other times I want to be thatā... And then they read about 80 comments underneath those posts.
The answer to finding yourself is getting off TikTok. If you want to be happy, you just have to turn that phone off sometimes. You will lose yourself completely if you read all these comments. You wonāt be able to distinguish your own opinions from othersā.
Itās sad. I hate seeing this happening to so many people around me.
Alright, enough with this never-ending pessimism... Do you believe in life after death?
Yes. I believe that our bodies die, but not our souls. Like energy. That doesnāt die either.
What is a lesson you recently learned?
I have actually noticed that I donāt learn much from my past mistakes. (laughter) Itās true! Because Iām just so incredibly impulsive. I donāt want to blame my ADHD, but...
What is your favorite memory of anything?
Thereās so much that happens all the time, I canāt even remember...
My trip to Greece... Nightswimming in the sea. That was the most fun. There were crazy big waves. It just felt like a dream. You canāt do that here (in Sweden), just go and take a dip somewhere downtown.
If you could say something to your younger self, what would it be?Ā
āShut upā. I talked crazy much.
(laughter) As if you donāt talk much anymore...
Yeah, I do. But I donāt mean it in a negative way because I used to be so carefree. I wasnāt in my head so much. Now, all I ever think about is āoh God, why am I talking so much?ā but back then, that never occurred to me.
So you would actually like to go back to your younger self and maybe tell your future self ājust stay carefreeā?
Exactly. You just read my mind.Ā
I wish we had more questions...Ā
Yeah, like āhave you ever smoked pot?ā...
Have you ever smoked pot?
I donāt count that one time. I only inhaled three times.
And what did you think of the experience?
Well, I didnāt get high so thereās not much to say. I wouldnāt recommend it if youāre a sensitive person, though. My friend got high and she got all paranoid. She was panicking and screaming because she didnāt understand where she was. If youāre already worried about something and then you do that, youāre just going to get even more worried. I feel like in general, itās something that people really romanticize. Getting high, I mean. Drinking and smoking cigarettes, too. If you really think about it, people do these things because they just try to bring out this side of themselves that basically doesnāt exist, or exists, but not unless theyāre under the influence. In a way, I can relate to it because when you drink, you just feel it right away, like āoh, Iām so much more talkative and can express myself betterā. But you see, Iām aware of that, so when it happens, I think more like āI should work on that side of myself without alcoholā. It scares me because all I can think in a situation like this is āno, no, no ā I have to learn how to behave this way without it!ā. Iām not trying to say that Iām perfect because Iām not, and I get it ā itās not easy for everyone, and I understand why people drink... But instead of pouring alcohol down our throats to find solutions to our problems, we should just try to work on ourselves...
photography by emily tali