[missbaphomet]

The best thing to come from arguing with that dumbass pannie is that I discovered that Freud, the person who coined the term pansexual, used the Greek suffix for all not as in "all people" or "all genders", but as in "will fuck literally anything including but not limited to animals, children, and corpses", and according to his theory it's because sex is literally a driving factor in their existence.

So much for those slutty, slutty bisexuals, hm?

[missbaphomet]

@just-an-anubis nice try but upon googling that exact quote I found no results. However when googling "bisexual definition freud" I got his definition of bisexual.

In short, try again biphobe

[missbaphomet]

how you bisexual AND against mspec people. you are mspec my guy

I'm bisexual. Insert bab talking points you won't read, won't understand, or will ignore because you'd have to confront your biphobia

[discourse-of-course]

Pansexuality is, and will always be, repackaged bisexuality with a neat little biphobic and transphobic bow.

Pansexuality isn’t valid. PLEASE learn your bisexual history. 

[discourse-of-course]

Bisexual is the only valid mspec label. All of the other ones are just different flavors is bisexuality. Learn to get over your internalized biphobia if you identify as pan/omni/whatever else. 

[nullsexducks]

💜❤️🧡💛💚💙

[sl-ug]

Shut up shut up shut up shut up

If you knew anything about the definitions and flag meanings, then you’d know that these are all wrong. Sorry but please do research and not make the definitions into whatever you want just so you can be phobic twards people of varicose different genders and sexualities.

What do you think the white stripe in the lesbian flag means? Same with the gay flag.

How is pansexuality biphobic exactly? Both can exist and they are different, albeit similar. Pan is an attraction to all genders while bisexuality is the attraction masculinity and femininity on a spectrum. Bisexuality is the attraction to two or more genders, including non-binary and trans people. Pansexual people don’t care about gender, as it’s not a part of what defines who they are attracted to. But in full honestly, both are just labels for similar things and it’s all about what someone if comfortable labeling themselves as.

Aromantic people can experience aromanticness in a spectrum. It has different levels of how someone feels. Like, someone who is aromantic might not feel romantic attraction but still desire a romantic relationship. Some aromantic people don’t want a romantic relationship at all. And some just want a platonic “partner”. That’s the pure definition of what a spectrum is. That’s what makes aromantic an umbrella term. Different people who experience different types os aromanticness fit inter that label, and they aren’t all the same. That’s why it’s an umbrella term.

I’m asexual and it is a spectrum. I exist. I don’t like sex. I still experience sexual attraction though. But outside of fantasy, it is awful for me. Im ageosexual, someone who experiences sexual attraction but doesn’t like the real stuff. Ageosexual is under the ace umbrella. It’s not always someone who’s sex repuled. Evern through my asexuality, I consider myself bisexual. Im attracted to multiple genders and masculinity and femininity, and that includes non-binary people too. Both romantically and sexually. If you don’t think that asexuality is a spectrum, then you are erasing people who are demisexual, ageosexual, greysexual, and more.

People like me exist and you can’t erase us because we don’t fit your definition of what sexuality and gender means. The real definitions are what really matter here. And you cannot change them.

[battleaxe-bi]

L + ratio etc

pansexuality is inherently biphobic

either you're asexual OR YOU AREN'T and the same goes for aromanticism; not a spectrum

[nullsexducks]

💜❤️🧡💛💚💙

[bur2928t82ur8wndb]

3 different fucking people have said to my face irl "i heard they're putting litter boxes in schools now because kids are 'identifying' as cats."

this is fake. i know it's fake. i saw it online ages ago and knew it was fake. and yet it has made its way into the real world. it's being spread to my little shitty town, as if the fuckheads here didn't need another reason to hate trans people. the mogai shit needs to die the fuck off already.

and i don't mean they/them users or 2 spirits or things described outside the binary used in other cultures. i know people like to bring up these archaic out-of-context examples to prove that a third option has always existed, which is a separate thing im not even going to bother with. i mean specifically this dogshit like "autismgender" "dreamgender" "catgender" "stargender" etc. you're a fucking annoying little kid playing pretend with serious topics that get us killed. it's not a game. we are losing our fucking rights and you guys are fucking around on the internet like it has no consequences.

my family members, my coworkers, my bosses, my peers, my customers. are grouping me in with you fucking freaks. i don't want to wear cat ears and 500 pins illustrating a fuckibg patchwork quilt of pronouns and identities. i want to live my fucking life, be gendered correctly, and be treated as a normal, intelligent human being. you know what people are doing now? laughing. "transgender? like the kids who want litter boxes in schools because they identify as cats? haha, okay, deadname, whatever."

promoting MOGAI, neopronouns and "xenogenders" hurts trans rights in the real world. in. the. real. world. there is a world outside of your fucking cell phone, of tumblr, of tiktok. grow the fuck up.

we are human beings, not trends, not jokes, not fucking temporary inconsequential fashion experiments. we. are. normal. people. you are invading our space, inventing problems for yourself. your life was so fucking normal until you decided to go by Arson instead of Madison, and use it/its/rot/rots/mew/mewself or fucking whatever. and now you wanna complain that the kids at school bully you. good.

you are not oppressed. you are bored.

[drpepperbi]

sorry for the wall of text but tbh I dislike the omni and ply labels even more so than pansexuality. If the difference between pan and bi really was about preference, then why does omni (all genders w/ a preference) need to exist? And polysexual just straight up doesn’t exist, because 1. it’s impossible be attracted to just men and women and -no- nonbinary people at all, since nonbinary people can look like absolutely anything, 2. you can’t pick and choose specific nb identities you’re attracted to, and 3. if you’re attracted to men & nonbinary people or women & nonbinary people you’re monosexual.

[bisexualsdeservebetter]

Hi, bi ace here, I just want to dump this here, sorry if I don't make sense: I'm tired of people saying aces aren't ace because they felt sexual attraction once or twice. Asexuality is a spectrum: there are people who are fully ace, there are some people who experience it but rarely, there are some people who feel it but don't want to physically commit the act, there are many kinds of aces. Asexuality is a spectrum and I'm tired of people telling me otherwise. Your thoughts?

Asexuality isn't a spectrum, by definition if you experience sexual attraction you're not asexual.

If you thought you experienced it before but realised it wasn't like, real actual sexual attraction, sure you could be ace.

I'd like to point out this isn't at all what this blog is about, but I have kinda strong opinions on this so I'll go with it for now.

[discourse-snivy]

think i heard someone say that allosexuality is the actual spectrum and this ask kinda is solidifying that statement.

saying “someone can be asexual even if they rarely experience sexual attraction” sounds a lot like saying “this person can be a lesbian, even if they rarely experience attraction to men” (at least to me) it just doesn’t make much sense. with the original example, it would make much more sense to consider that person allosexual because they do still experience sexual attraction, and not experiencing sexual attraction is literally the only requirement to be ace. and while for allosexuality the only requirement is experiencing sexual attraction, that leaves a lot more room for it being a spectrum, ranging from experiencing said sexual attraction a lot or just rarely

also the part with “there are some people who feel it but don't want to physically commit the act” is straight up not asexual. that’s literally just having sexual attraction but choosing not to act upon it (which i’ve seen people connect to trauma and such, which should never be involved in sexualities)

[ariessia-deactivated20210617]

Ah, I didn’t know allo was actually part of the ace spectrum, I just assumed it was another m-spec label based around how many anti-allo comments I’ve seen and didn’t look into it,, ,

Yeah, it would make more sense to call them allo and not strictly ace, but I still like to think of asexuality as some kind spectrum and has smaller, more specific identities like allo and demi under it, since these people simply don’t feel sexual attraction under most circumstances, hence “asexual”.

They actually exist and they’re called “sex-positive aces”. It’s a little deeper than “choosing” not to have sexual relations. They can feel the attraction in their mind, but it’s highly unlikely they’ll be able to physically feel the attraction. Their opposite are “sex-negative aces”, which are the typical ace. These are the specific kinds of aces I’d like people to be aware of, because if anything they’re the most likely ones to have the feeling of being “broken”.

Now before this sounds like I’m fighting for aces to be LGBT+, I’m just gonna drop this that I don’t think cishet aces should be considered LGBT+, but any nb/trans/gay/lesbian/multi/etc aces can be considered so because of those things and those things only

I just want to make people aware that the ace spectrum is exactly how people describe bi as an umbrella term:

There’s asexuality, the term that describes everyone on the spectrum, but not everyone is fully ace. You have allos and demis and any other a-spec identities I possibly don’t know about that better describe how they feel.

The point here of my rambling is that yeah, there are aces, but that doesn’t take away the fact that some people are simply more comfortable identifying as ace even if allo or demi works better because people can’t mind their damn buisness and jump down people’s throats saying “bruh you can’t be demi, that’s just a normal person”. For that reason, I believe asexuality should be considered a spectrum, for everyone under that label don’t normally feel sexual attraction, but not everyone under it is fully ace.

while I’m here, if anyone sees this, please quit calling us aces “boring” or refusing to date us because you “won’t get laid”, or portraying us as unhappy, bland loners in your fiction :/

[bisexualsdeservebetter]

Allosexual is what aces refer to non aces as. It means we do experience sexual attraction.

Something with 1 yes or no requirement is not a spectrum, and demisexual is quite literally being a normal person. If you have strong feelings about ace exclusion, I recommend you find someone else to follow, because you'll get zero sympathy from me on this issue.

You are part of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans community because you are bi. I do not think asexuality is inherently LGBT nor is it a spectrum, and frankly I doubt you're gonna be able to change my mind about that. Cishets that don't want sex or cis people that don't want any relationship at all are not LGBT for that.

[azonus]

The reason I use the word “queer” (aside from the fact that it has been reclaimed for literally generations) is that every variant of “LGBT” is flawed.  I tend to avoid using the term “LGBT” because it excludes people who should be in there.  The longer acronyms either also exclude people or are so long as to be far too cumbersome and therefore functionally useless in conversation.  “LGBT+” and “LGBTQ” are open-ended and allow people to include whoever they think belongs there, but they also position L, G, B, and T as more important than other members of the community. Flexible macrolabels like “queer” are extremely useful because they can adapt to include whoever the community defines itself to include at the time, without positioning any identity type as being more important.  Unwillingness to allow others to use the label “queer” to describe the community often boils down to 1) the desire to exclude some group that would otherwise be included, or 2) saying “this is not a good term for me personally, therefore nobody should use it”.  No individual should be called queer if they have a problem with being referred to that way, but as a flexible and inclusive macrolabel for the community as a whole, I have yet to find anything that works better.

[battleaxe-bi]

lgbt doesnt exclude people who 'should be there' lol unless you're lesbian, gay, bi or trans then you don't fall under the label of queer anyway 🤨

[jjbeka-deactivated20210812]

reblog if you’re unsafe for pansexuals

[funkyness]

at least can all we agree that the original gay flag with the magic and sex colours is BEAUTIFUL and it should make a comeback

[funkyness]

what's more iconic than this

[spiltpencilsink]

The original creator made an updated version with an extra lavender stripe to represent diversity and I fell that's worth mentioning!

[bean-of-cheese]

as an asexual I feel kinda uncomfortable that this flag has a stripe for sex tbh

[toastwiki-deactivated20230129]

the flag aknowledging that gay people can and do have sex is not erasing or invalidating your identity and if you think the concept of others having sex threatens your asexuality in any way that is not our problem

[vampish-glamour]

Also, the rainbow flag isn’t for asexuals anyways… so it’s not a problem! :)

[bisexualspongebob]

i feel like i never really see affirmation anymore for bisexuals who don’t have a preference, for bisexuals whose fluidity is constantly changing, for bisexuals who simply do not want or care about categorizing their attraction to every gender. as a bisexual i hate getting asked “what do you prefer?” because it forces me to simplify my complex relationship with my sexuality. it’s also a biphobe’s insidious way of asking “so are you actually straight or actually gay?” people can also use whatever label they identify with, but when you try to push the “bi means gender plays a factor into your attraction/you have a preference” definition, you are a part of the problem. you’re making people who identify as bi hyperanalyze their own sexuality. bisexuals do not need to think about who they prefer. i’m just tired of seeing every single post on social media about bi people being in relationship to preferences.

preferences are just not something i think about. i know i love everyone and that’s all i need to know. and i want this to be affirmation to anyone who is bisexual. you are not some meter in a scale. you don’t have to make a bar graph to explain your attraction to different genders. you can love everyone point blank full stop. your experiences will always be more important than having to define yourself. just live your bisexual life and keep being perfect 💗💜💙

[bisexualsdeservebetter]

Remember when people pointed out that three different shows (Big Mouth, Schitt's Creek, Sex Education) had transphobic/biphobic explanations for pansexuality? And pansexuals tried to say "well that's not how we actually define our sexuality" ... where do you think the showrunners got the idea from? It's because that's how y'all defined yourselves for YEARS.

Yeah!! I didn't mind schitts creek or sex education at first but genuinely the pan shit ruined them both for me. What us wrong with bisexuality? I'd love to hear an explanation that is not biphobic or based on stereotypes or an incorrect definition of bisexuality.

[pinkfemme-deactivated20210608]

you hear me: homosexuality is inclusive of nonbinary people. nonbinary isn’t a ‘third gender’ and there are so many different experiences and genders one could be. nonbinary people are included in every sexuality.

[wolvierinez]

[spim-bim-deactivated20220309]

Hello bisexuals!!!

Hey bis, I’m writing up a document trying to detail why pansexuality is harmful, and if anybody would like to help chip in with their own opinions, experiences, or sources, then I’d love that! Also if you could, could take this poll and explain what bisexuality is defined as for YOU, so I can add a segment of fellow bisexuals defining their own sexuality, that would be amazing, thank you!

http://poal.me/3ecojg

thanks!

[battleaxe-bi]

No ones gonna listen to an exclusionist so shut up