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Ari | He/It | mostly a lurker but sometimes i post things now i guess

[birdeatbug]

why is eveyone drawing gaster as a pirate did i miss something

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“kris is transfem!” “kris is transmasc!”

ok but like theyre transneu right.

like they are nonbinary. they use exclusively they/them. their presentation is completely gender neutral. even their more “gendered” looks when they do certain ACTs can be either a more fem or more masc version. at the end of the day its all headcanon i guess but idk it feels weird to me that i see people genuinely argue about this stuff sometimes

[tennas-t-v-time]

Im gonna be so honest and say the take ive had for a year here. Kris and Susies dynamic is 100% more impactful if it ISN’T romantic

[birdeatbug]

anyway while im talking about misinterpretation of characters. Susie. susie in chapter 5 specifically.

i see a lot of people upset that she suddenly seemed so focused on noelle and her romance with her in this chapter. which i do get! they think that it seems rushed and out of character. but 3 things.

1: Susie is a Teenager who just started dating someone. teens will be distracted by that stuff. my friend talked about her gf all the time when they started dating. its normal.

2. Susie used to think she was incapable of being loved. she was rejected by the people around her so many times, just for being different and “scary,” that she started putting up the front of a scary monster to protect herself. and even if she has kris and ralsei now, those feelings wouldn’t completely go away. but then, theres Noelle. this sweet kind girl who seems opposite from susie in every way. but she likes susie despite that! not despite that, actually, but BECAUSE they’re so different from each other! of course susie would latch onto that. why wouldnt she?

3. the prophecy. when susie saw the prophecy in chapter 4, she was very obviously excited about it (until the ending, obviously). She’s the girl with hope crossed on her heart! she found purpose and belonging from the prophecy, becoming a hero alongside ralsei and kris. now, obviously she’s all about defying the prophecy. or at least whatever horrible thing happens at the end. but that doesnt mean she’s going to completely reject it. in the prophecy, she is A Hero. in the prophecy, she has friends. in the prophecy, love finds its way to her. of course she wants that still. i think she’ll realize she already had love from kris and ralsei (and toriel) eventually but right now. i get it.

anyway, what im trying to say is: i dont think susie is as out of character as people think in ch5. like, we’re just seeing a different side to her. just like we see a different side of ralsei.

[pregnantradford]

Lol yah, it is super jarring tho writing wise, everything just felt a little off in chapter five, in a way i cant describe right now

[birdeatbug]

yeah no i definitely see what people mean about the writing being weird this chapter, and it definitely isnt without any flaws. i definitely felt like we got less character interaction this chapter (which is probably why we got the cafe convos). i was just pointing out some reasoning for the shift in susie’s behavior. the way she acts in the weird route is much more like how she usually behaves so i think the way she is in the normal route is intentional on toby’s part. or id hope so anyway because i really like this game and i dont want the writing to suddenly just become worse lol

[criiitter]

obsessed with kris using things the player can't see to communicate with other characters. drawing on the window in the diner. 80% as much honey on toast as usual. silly faces and nodding/shaking their head. changing the tone of what we make them say to make it clear that they mean it differently. i love that it's shown time and time again that kris ISN'T apathetic about anything. kris wants friends. kris has boundaries and wants mom to know that what she did made them feel bad. kris wants the people in their life to be happy and kris wants affection. i love kris deltarune

[birdeatbug]

anyway while im talking about misinterpretation of characters. Susie. susie in chapter 5 specifically.

i see a lot of people upset that she suddenly seemed so focused on noelle and her romance with her in this chapter. which i do get! they think that it seems rushed and out of character. but 3 things.

1: Susie is a Teenager who just started dating someone. teens will be distracted by that stuff. my friend talked about her gf all the time when they started dating. its normal.

2. Susie used to think she was incapable of being loved. she was rejected by the people around her so many times, just for being different and “scary,” that she started putting up the front of a scary monster to protect herself. and even if she has kris and ralsei now, those feelings wouldn’t completely go away. but then, theres Noelle. this sweet kind girl who seems opposite from susie in every way. but she likes susie despite that! not despite that, actually, but BECAUSE they’re so different from each other! of course susie would latch onto that. why wouldnt she?

3. the prophecy. when susie saw the prophecy in chapter 4, she was very obviously excited about it (until the ending, obviously). She’s the girl with hope crossed on her heart! she found purpose and belonging from the prophecy, becoming a hero alongside ralsei and kris. now, obviously she’s all about defying the prophecy. or at least whatever horrible thing happens at the end. but that doesnt mean she’s going to completely reject it. in the prophecy, she is A Hero. in the prophecy, she has friends. in the prophecy, love finds its way to her. of course she wants that still. i think she’ll realize she already had love from kris and ralsei (and toriel) eventually but right now. i get it.

anyway, what im trying to say is: i dont think susie is as out of character as people think in ch5. like, we’re just seeing a different side to her. just like we see a different side of ralsei.

[birdeatbug]

why am i seeing multiple people think that kris was like. at least partially responsible for dess’ disappearance. or played a hand in it somehow. like just because the egg is “evidence” for something??

like kris may feel responsible for it? maybe? but they were like definitely a very small child when dess disappeared. how would they have been responsible in any way. am i stupid

maybe im blowing this out of proportion but ive seen a few people say this in the span of like a day and it pmo sorry

[birdeatbug]

im still confused about how kris made a deal with seth before going into the dark world with susie. like. did kris talk to seth when seth was a flower? if so how did kris know seth would want berdly’s feather? did kris just pop into the dark world real quick and have a conversation before leaving? how did they get out so quickly? like wgat

[krissy-face]

You can see Kris doing the same in chapter 2 ending, they stand in front of Tenna talking to him.

They probably talked to Seth while the fountain was forming, or right after it formed

And they didn't know what Seth wanted out of the deal, Seth says "I want.. That!" And points to the feather. They just chose something on Kris's person! Kris just happened to have the feather on them already (maybe for gay reasons)

[birdeatbug]

hm i guess that kinda makes sense. i thought that seth just said “that” because they were embarassed and the “pointing” sprite was them holding out their hand to take it but it could be interpreted either way. the only thing that i really get stuck on about it tbh is that susie seems surprised that kris has the feather but if seth pointed to it wouldnt it be visible the whole time? idk

(also yes it was definitely for gay reasons. i believe. /silly)

[birdeatbug]

im still confused about how kris made a deal with seth before going into the dark world with susie. like. did kris talk to seth when seth was a flower? if so how did kris know seth would want berdly’s feather? did kris just pop into the dark world real quick and have a conversation before leaving? how did they get out so quickly? like wgat

[birdeatbug]

the ship name for flowery and tenna is seedrt ☝️ btw

this is great and way better than anything i could have ever come up with thank you

[birdeatbug]

i really hope people dont entirely base the fallen humans’ designs/personalities on the flowers. like i know we have very little info on the fallen humans but them and the flowers are different characters who would have different personalities. the flowers are very clearly Not Human and do not act like humans would. i think its fine to take elements from them for the humans but yk. not the entire thing

[birdeatbug]

tbh i was really disappointed that it was basically confirmed kris has a crush on susie in the hot tub(/sauna?) scene. like. i really liked how close their friendship was. i wanted to be that close to someone platonically. and then it felt like chapter 5 went “if youre this close to someone you have to like them romantically actually” and idk. whatever

[birdeatbug]

tho ive never liked shipping kris romantically with ANYBODY (except berdly but even then im not as into it as other people seem to be). like i cant really see them in a romantic relationship for the most part. idk

[birdeatbug]

tbh i was really disappointed that it was basically confirmed kris has a crush on susie in the hot tub(/sauna?) scene. like. i really liked how close their friendship was. i wanted to be that close to someone platonically. and then it felt like chapter 5 went “if youre this close to someone you have to like them romantically actually” and idk. whatever

[birdeatbug]

krispony on pt

[tok1yom1]

Tenna x flowery….. walk with me.

[birdeatbug]

anyway enough of me actually posting about the game where is my flowery/tenna ship art /hj

i propose the ship name “nosebuds” because rose buds/tenna’s flower nose/flowery calling people variations of buddy

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thinking about how the creator of the fountain shapes the dark world,, thinking about how much kris cares for their father even if they’re not as close as they used to be,, thinking about how that manifests through the flowers,,, like yeah the flowers care for asgore because he takes care of them but i believe some of it is kris’ love too!

[birdeatbug]

this isnt to diminish the flowers’ love for asgore btw like they’d love him no matter who made the fountain but i think kris’ love for asgore affected how that love manifested (like the flowers taking a human form to show their care for asgore due to kris being human)