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[bisexualityisgood]

transmeds and inclus have more in common than they think they do

Inclusionists think “lesbian trans men” are valid because the split attraction model says words don’t mean anything anymore.

Transmedicalists go “ERM UH NO. Trans men can only be lesbians if they are ‘non-transitioning’!” 

Like, how is that not exactly the same nonsense. Transmedicalism is literally just split attraction model logic applied to gender instead of sexuality. Like come the fuck on, you can see it in the language. “I’m a biromantic lesbian” makes exactly as little sense as “non-transitioning trans men are women”. Convinced it’s MOGAI nonsense all the way down. 

[bisexualityisgood]

“I’m bi with a preference for women”- Six words. eight syllables. Conveys meaning with elegance and grace.

“Actually, it’s easier to say I’m a bi lesbian because (DROPS PARAGRAPH)“ I’m already bored. not reading that. I’m just going to laugh at you.  

[bisexualityisgood]

"the mspec community”, “bi lesbians”, “lesbian trans men” and the split attraction model in general are based on transmedicalist logic. they like to pretend they aren’t, but they 1000% are lmfao

[bisexualityisgood]

fun facts about bisexuality

Bisexuality includes trans people by definition

 The “bi” in bisexuality refers to the fact that bisexuals experience attraction to genders like and unlike their own. The sum of genders like and unlike one’s own is all genders, including nonbinary ones.  

The bi in bisexuality doesn’t refer to “attraction to afabs and amabs” or “attraction to feminine and masculine presenting people”. Bisexuality includes trans people in a way that respects their genders. STOP SMOKING CRACK. 

Bisexuals don’t inherently have a preference.

Artificial terms like “pansexual“ and “omnisexual” are unnecessary specifically because bisexuality already includes attraction to all genders with or without a preference. 

Split attraction model-derived coinages like “bi lesbian“ have like, five mutually exclusive definitions, all of them biphobic, lesbophobic, and transphobic and for that reason are also completely useless. 

Defining bisexuality as “attraction to two or more genders”, in addition to being utterly ahistorical, undermines our commonalities with gay people and lesbians (the fact that we’re attracted to people of the same gender) and conflates us with straight people. 

“Polysexuals” who aren’t attracted to people of the same gender are just straight and shouldn’t be grouped with bisexuals. 

[bisexualityisgood]

it’s frustrating that transmedicalists pretend they’re allies of battleaxe bisexuals, specifically because transmedicalists reducing trans men to their AGAB/genitals/gender presentation and referring to them as lesbians is literally the reason why people think things like “pansexual lesbians” exist in the first place. Like, transmedicalists love to act like they’re defending trans people against the MOGAIs when, in reality, they are literally the source of so much fucking MOGAI nonsense it’s insane. lmfao

[bisexualityisgood]

acting like the inclusion of trans women in lesbianism is contingent of nonwomen is transmisogyny

“bi lesbians” and “lesbian trans men” act like the inclusion of trans women in lesbianism is contingent on the inclusion of nonwomen. 

“oh but saying trans men can’t be lesbians is TRANSMISANDRY“ misandry isn’t real i don’t care. lmao. 

[bisexualityisgood]

if you’re not attracted to people of the same gender you’re straight. “oh I’m heteroromantic asexual” congrats, you’re straight. “I’m polysexual but im not attracted to people of the same gender” cool you’re straight. Literally half of these fake ass sexualities are literally just straight with more syllables. 

[bisexualityisgood]

I think most lesbians would be more willing to date a pre-op trans woman before they’d settle for a "lesbian trans man". I'm just saying.

[bisexualityisgood]

the venn diagram of people who think lesbianism doesn’t include includes trans women with penises and people who think lesbianism includes trans men is a circle

[bisexualityisgood]

people say bi/lesbian solidarity doesn’t exist but bisexuals and lesbians, it seems to me, are both equally down for making fun of “mspec lesbians” and “lesbian trans men”. If that’s not solidarity, what is?

[lifeofcynch]

if you tell bi people to just accept biphobic things, you never cared about bi people in the first place.

[bisexualityisgood]

convinced that "bi lesbians” and “lesbian trans men” are evidence of the ultimate transmed-mspec inclu convergence. There’s too much concentrated stupidity. probability points to implosion, followed by fragmentation.

[bisexualityisgood]

My memory might be fuzzy, but as I recall, the reason why they/them pronouns were normalized in the first place is because it was generally understood among trans people, both binary and nonbinary, that referring to someone who doesn't go by she or he as they/them is never misgendering.

It seems like neopronoun supporters (they call themselves "gender abolitionists") want to throw away all the work the trans community has done to normalize they/them. They often say they're doing this on behalf of nonbinary people, but in my experience, the vast majority of nonbinary people are quite pleased with they/them and are equally distrustful of neopronouns, especially considering a lot of neopronoun users actively identify with their AGAB in ways that nonbinary simply people don't. "Cis people who use neopronouns are valid!" is basically gender abolitionist orthodoxy at this point, and I don't think nonbinary people appreciate being grouped with cis people.

As for me, I believe that nonbinary people are an integral part of the trans community. I don't think neopronoun supporters represent the majority of nonbinary people. Moreover, I don't even think that the majority neopronoun supporters are predominantly nonbinary. I've seen enough neopronoun supporters insisting that trans/nonbinary people can identify with their AGAB that, personally, I'm not convinced that "gender abolition" isn't entirely just a transphobic movement from the outset, that simply masquerades as a nonbinary movement.

I don't think neopronoun supporters have as much in common with the nonbinary community as they think they do, period. 

[bisexualityisgood]

there is no “non-terf” gender abolitionism. “gender abolition” is inherently transmisogynistic. “gender abolitionists” literally always suck. 

[bisexualityisgood]

pansexuals will scream at bisexuals for not knowing their special little personal pet definition of pansexuality but then when bisexuals actually ask the difference between pansexuality and bisexuality they just go “oh well it’s subjective, it varies from person to person“  

lmfao

[bisexualityisgood]

I'm tired of people trying to pigeonhole me as a transmedicalist or transphobe for saying that bisexuality includes nonbinary people in a way that respects their genders. 

I don't think bisexuals need to reduce nonbinary people's genders to their gender expression or AGAB to include attraction to nonbinary people in bisexuality. I think bisexuality can include attraction to an arbitrary number of genders, organically. 

If the bi in bisexuality refers to the fact that bisexuals are attracted both to people of the same gender, as well as different genders, then of course bisexuality includes trans people, including nonbinary people, in a way that doesn't reduce their genders to gender expression, or AGAB.  

I think transmedicalists and "mspecs" have a lot more in common than they think they do. Transmedicalists might pretend to defend the definition of bisexuality from pansexuals, but literally every time I've ever seen someone defending "lesbian trans men" or "bi lesbians" they're either a transmedicalist or “mspec”. In my opinion, they're both equally biphobic and transphobic, they simply disagree on the method.

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pansexuals are like 'stop trying to redefine pansexuality!!' while trying to redefine bisexuality