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[alphawolfice1989]

Sara is laughing with laurel in heaven that ava married an alien hybrid clone of her

[badassbirdsofprey]

[ilove-superheroes]

Ava clones

Why were they presented as a negative part in Ava's story. When Sara sees them she doesn't see human beings, why? If Ava is unique and is a human with a soul - aren't they also? Or we have to believe they are disposable goons that just need to be beaten up. And even of they are, did the show ever proved this? But what is the message behind this. That they are a threat to her uniqueness? How are people with twins supposed to feel about that? If there is a person who looks like you, this is a bad thing? Why didn't Ava felt them as sisters, wanted to get to know them. Ask how they feel? And should we forget that Ava was also disposable at one point, when Rip said that she is the 13th clone that joins the bureau. So even Ava we saw the first episode might not be Ava we see in episode 9. I am sorry but how are people fans of Ava and not bothered by this story. I know I would be.

[caitylotzblackcanary]

Can I ask what you’re referencing when you say “And the drugging for sex thing”? I fully agree with everything else you said! I just can’t remember when this happened. Any info would be most appreciated. Thank you

So in s6, in the episode after Sara returned as an alien clone to the Legends, I think the western episode, we had Sara trying to explain to Ava, she is different and something has been done to her. Ava laughed and shrugged it off. Sara was also not feeling herself and was not into intimacy mood. But in the final scene between them Ava had put some alien aphrodisiac drug in Sara's drink, to make her in the mood for sex, and they immediately get it on.

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Nyssara

Nyssara was a very good paring in my opinion and I know avalance is popular but I don’t really like it, Ava continuously takes leadership from Sara and then she would just smile and kiss her to make her quiet.

Then when Sara was possessed by malice mick was the one who really brought her back all Ava did was wake her from a dream basically.

Then we have the whole alien upducted situation where once again mick had to be the one to rescue her because Ava didn’t have it in her to say ‘oh my girlfriend needs me quick mick your captain’ she just had to keep being in control of the wave rider while Sara was suffering I know with no doubt in my mind that nyssa would have already have gotten to Sara and saved her as well.

Then there was the aftermath where Sara had come back and was basically traumatised and needed to talk about being transformed into part alien but then gets drugged which angers me.

Sorry for rambling it’s just my point of view you can comment but please no nasty ones.

[caitylotzblackcanary]

I am with you on this. Nyssa and Sara were the real lover to enemies to lover again. Nyssa helped Sara to be stronger while Sara saved Nyssa's soul. By drugging herself, Sara showed Nyssa that she will not allow her to kill anyone else anymore, and also that Sara will not go after her but rather herself. There was something really strong going on there. While Ava never made Sara better, never helped her or was there when Sara needed her. Ava just manipulated Sara. Sara believed Ava is her last resort. I also hate how Ava never went to save Sara, never tried to understand her, listen to her. And the drugging for sex thing, after Sara lost her body, and was suffering find her identity was just cruel and rapish.

[non-pressurizeddiamond]

Getting tired of Avalance. Their relationship adds nothing to the story or even to the characters themselves. It’s toxic. The level of jealousy and pettiness that Ava puts into the relationship is far from healthy. Dating someone who would break your boundaries simply because they can’t handle waiting for you to tell them is not romantic. Dating someone who wants you to prioritize being “in their corner” over your own morality and everyone else in your life is not romantic. Dating someone who constantly ignores your feelings and makes decisions without considering you is not romantic.

Sara isn’t perfect either, but Ava’s “flaws” are giant red flags. And while there’s Ava talking about things with Sara, Sara never once talks about her trauma with her girlfriend, and once they get married, well, Sara no longer has thoughts or feelings that don’t have to do with Ava.

[wherearemyfemaleheroes]

Captain Marvel starts to give even more Sara Lance vibes :D

But Sara Lance hands muscle work is stronger :)

[wherearemyfemaleheroes]

missing canarrow 😔❤️

Yes, I do miss them. For me they were these rare couple between two people who had actual story together. Not just see each other and fall in love, but go through shit and fall in love. I also love the idea that a man and a woman can be soulmates and also equals in power level and importance in the story, without the need the one to be diminished so the other to thrive. They were the real power duo.

[fuckyescaitylotz-deactivated201]

{insp.}

[punchholesinthesky]

[evilswan]

Legends of Tomorrow - 1.13 Leviathan

“In the meantime, Ms. Lance get Ms. Saunders ready.” “How am I supposed to teach someone to fight with a piece of jewelry?” “Good question.” “It wasn’t rhetorical.”

[wherearemyfemaleheroes]

[non-pressurizeddiamond]

Only recently started watching DC’s Legends of Tomorrow and I finished season six and it was. It was shit. It’s like the entire season was to insert Ava into the captain position, which was completely unnecessary (I’m of the opinion that making her co-captain took away from Sara’s leadership role, something she didn’t really want in the first place).

I haven’t watched season seven, but from what I’ve heard about the Avalance baby, I’ve gotta say, I’m not a fan. The sapphic couple having a sudden unplanned pregnancy and just accepting it makes it harder to like the couple because it takes away the only thing I really liked about them. That they didn’t want normalcy. The marriage, in my opinion, really didn’t work for when it happened, and just felt like they were trying to domesticate them. I wasn’t ever a fan of Avalance, what with Ava being unreasonably jealous of Oliver after he literally died, and just her general extreme insecurity, but making them more normal was completely unnecessary.

I still love this show, but it definitely slowly (meaning very quickly) went downhill. There are too many things to point out that I just flat-out dislike, and they definitely outnumber the things that I like about it. In case it wasn’t obvious, my brain is mostly attached to Sara, so that’s what the post centers around, though there are definite things I disliked about the handling of every character and relationship.

[blackcanarywhitecanary]

I can't stop thinking about how Sara Lance got her happiness as a clone and the real one is dead

And no body cared in the show and outside, because she got a perfect copy with her memories to continue her life. I guess I just have to imagine her soul is with her sister's and they both kick ass in the after life.

The woman who inspired us all with how she protects women was killed and cloned off screen by a man, who artificially created a female clones to serve him as slaves. I mean how twisted is that, and how is nobody seeing how sexist it is.

[redhatmeg]

Now when I watch Left Behind again, I see that Sara's defetism stems from her experiences with Lian Yu.

She has been left alone, presumed dead twice. She had to fend for herself and she put trust in wrong people who offered her protection and training. Notice that ten month later, before she leaves Ray and Kendra. She doesn't presume that Rip and co., just like that abandoned her, Kendra and Ray; she says that they were dead, because if they were alive, they would come back to 1958 and took them right from their previous spot.

[caitylotzblackcanary]

I was also thinking about that episode. What bugs me the most is how forced and out of character is her going back to the League: 'because she has nothing else to do'

They really wanted to tell me that the woman who did everything to get away from the league, who got killed because she joined them again, who became a hero Canary on Arrow, protecting women, will chose to be assassin rather than be the Canary or White Canary in the 50s, to protect women, who probably even more needed protection at that era.

They should have wrote a story how she puts the Black Costume on and becomes the golden age Black Canary, if they really knew her character

[redhatmeg]

Honestly, that would be perfect.

[wherearemyfemaleheroes]

Oh yes, I want that

[wherearemyfemaleheroes]

The Marvels

I hope the whole movie is not goofy and silly as in the trailer. I hope I am not the only one who wants more real, serious women, more angry women, more deep characterization for female super heroes. I am sad that every time men complain about how a female character is unlikable or when some people complain how female characters have to smile to be likable or relatable they then change the dark serious intense women into goofballs, because people can handle them better. People can swallow female stories only of they are told trough silly ridiculous plot lines and acting. It is sad. I want the same stories about women teaming up, women helping each other, women saving the world, women becoming friends but in a serious dark superhero realistic like tone.

[wherearemyfemaleheroes]

Never forget that Arrow resurrected Sara Lance so Legends can kill her again in the end.

And never forget that on Legends they never mentioned her soul, so the one on Legends finale is just a clone Sara Lance, and the real one, the human one is dead and her soul is in the after life.

Just saying!