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a common question in the hunger games fandom is how katniss and gale would operate if they had both been the ones in the games instead of katniss and peeta. at first, i thought that we could only think about hypothetical situations based on their reactions to killing and battle.
but, after reading the chapter about the battle in district eight in mockingjay, i think that suzanne was trying to simulate what a games with just gale and katniss would be like.
because, as the bombers from district two appear in the sky, katniss and gale immediately take their positions in the hunt. katniss invokes a common hunting strategy, reminding gale of their hunting strategy for geese (mj, 86). katniss and gale further reduce these planes to foul as katniss and gale puncture their "belly," "wing," and "tail" (mj, 87). it is so genius that suzanne uses these terms because they perfectly describe both the parts of a plane and the geese that katniss and gale base their strategy off of.
and i feel like suzanne was trying to depict what it would be for gale and katniss in the arena. they would revert to their role as hunters. because, "how different can it really be," hunting and killing the enemy (thg, 39). and katniss even realizes that if she "forgets they’re people, it will be no different at all" (thg, 40).
it is not until afterward, when katniss is sitting alone in her hospital bed, that she truly realizes the people that were in the planes (mj, 99). she can not continue to see them as the geese that she would regularly hunt. because she is reminded that they were people too. and she is haunted by that.
in contrast, although i can hope that he feels a little remorse for his role in killing, gale on the outside appears unaffected, getting chummy with coin (mj, 93) and eagerly assisting beetee in weapon development (mj, 98). he demonstrates his insensitive attitude about killing these bombers as he uses it as justification for his death trap in district two. that it is no different.
in many ways, although katniss quickly falls into the dehumanization of the enemy
after the moment, she is also more likely to solemnly process the death. similar to peeta. even with foxface, a person who peeta unintentionally killed, he didn't feel good about it (thg, 324). and what is the entirety of mockingjay but katniss constantly drowning in grief over the thousands that died as a result of her actions, even if it wasn't her directly killing them?
because at the end of the day, katniss is aware of the intrinsic value of humanity. the value of preserving her own. and the value of others. and i am not saying gale doesn't. but he is able to shrug this off if it means he can achieve his ultimate goal.
so, i think that we can assume that this is how katniss and gale would be in the arena. in the moment, they would both revert to their old hunting habits. but while gale would most likely justify the deaths (and hey, i don't blame him. i probably would too. because what else can you do in a death arena?), each of katniss's kills would haunt her until her final breath.
and it is not until peeta gives katniss an outlet to memorialize the people that died that she is able to truly move on. because the weight of killing innocent people takes everything you are (mj, 23) . and that can never really be completely remedied. but perhaps it can be lightened if you resolve to never forget them. to not let their deaths be in vain.
it’s the hunger games renaissance so i just want to remind everyone that donald sutherland (who played president snow) was on a cia watchlist for anti-war activities. he fully understood the role and message of the books and in an interview literally said “he runs a totalitarian state, he’s an oligarch- we have them here” during an interview.
Hot take but… “Gale was a teen soldier who got brainwashed, by a manipulative dictator, into the idea that sacrificing a small number of troops was worth it to definitively stop the government that had spent years ruining the lives of him and his people” and “Gale’s gross disregard for human life directly led to the death of Prim and thousands of other civilians including children, and Katniss is justified in her anger and has no obligation to ever forgive him” are two statements that can and should coexist together.
suzanne collins social commentary and foresight should be appreciated more
suzanne collins killing prim after everything katniss did to save her.......... THATS how you write a story about the brutality and futility of war ma'am thats what we call a compelling and fucked up narrative yessums thats storytelling babes!!!!
you’ve got to love how Suzanne Collins gave Katniss and Peeta the character goals of “keep Prim safe” and “stay myself” and then just flatly denied them both
what a truly horrific thing to say
and it’s funny to see people say that prim’s death happened for “no reason.” because it’s almost like…… war of any kind inevitably causes the senseless death of thousands. and it doesn’t mean anything. yes, prim died for no reason, and that was the point.
coin only ever cared about power, it was thinly veiled as a pursuit for justice. she was fine with innocent children dying if it meant citizens would think the blood was all on snow’s hands. pair this with gale’s weapon, and the fact that prim happened to be on the front lines, and bam. innocent, senseless deaths.
that’s from an emotional standpoint, though. from a narrative standpoint, prim’s death actually DID make sense. just as rue’s death served as the catalyst that convinced katniss to die by nightlock (the act that began the rebellion), prim’s death was the catalyst that forced katniss to confront coin’s true colors. now, katniss knew that coin was really no different from snow. it all went in a circle. the rebellion started because of katniss’s love for prim, and the rebellion was won because of that same love.
and on a final note: prim’s death was foreshadowed by her name alone. a primrose is a flower that wilts shortly after blooming.
sorry. thinking about how katniss just genuinely mourning rue started riots across the dictricts as people realized how fucking devastating it was that they just willingly watched the murder of a 12 year old. just the realization that they’re so desensitized to literal child murder started an entire uprising and revolution. it just gets to me man it gets me every time
Peeta was always endgame no matter how you slice it. Obviously there's the narrative choice, already gone into that, but from a character perspective too.
I mean there's the whole 'gale winds are loud, devastating, and quick to pass' and 'pita (bread) is considered the cornerstone that helped create humanity' thing, there's war vs peace, wrath vs mercy, self vs many, etc etc.
One of them brings destruction (gale is defined by what he kills, be it rabbits or sisters, and the systems he wants to bring down) and the other, creation (peeta is defined by the things he makes - speeches, bread, art).
One of them will end the world, the other will rebuild it from the ashes. Obviously Gale is needed - you can't make omelettes without breaking eggs after all- but he was never a sustainable, long term option.
WHICH THEN BRINGS ME BACK OH SO NICELY to how love IS a central theme of the series, because there HAS to be a 'so after'.
why is he so adorable i could cry