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Helloooo this is like the ten millionth post update just saying that WE ARE NOT ACTIVE HERE. Unless some funky news comes up and someone has something to say, we don't post here. Like any of us lol

We're not active like anywhere else either, only friends get Discord (the only thing we use besides Pinterest)

#pinned post #yeah that's really all I have to say ngl

Hiii, I really don't come here anymore, but I'm taking this moment to rant to the world because I need to put this SOMEWHERE.

Okay, beginning disclaimers:

I am FULLY aware that I am biased on this topic. I acknowledge this, but I'm going to rant anyways. This is just an opinion, after all.

It is completely fine if you disagree with me! I enjoy civil discussions, and I'm almost always willing to hear the other side of things.

Okay, rant time!

Thanks to Pinterest, the only platform we're active on besides Discord, I've every now and then stumbled across whispers that are very negative in regards to Columbina. Now, if you don't like her, that's fine. Everyone has their kind of person. There's just certain things I think about.

First off, I like her as a character. I think that's pretty obvious. Even with the complete 180 on expectations, I like her. And I'd also like to include that just like many others, I was on the 'ominous angel' bandwagon. I literally love eerie, biblically accurate angel characters.

But let's talk about the whole 'rewritten' thing. Most of the evidence pointing to Columbina being a little more sinister was based on Childe and Wanderer's voicelines, being wary of her. Arlecchino states rather differently, of course. But I also can't help but wonder if some of the misconceptions also come from how her singing was perceived.

In A Winter Night's Lazzo, the song she's singing may sound ominous, but in reality, it's of course Signora's theme. Really, this only proves that she was good friends with Signora. Another thing of note from Lazzo was her being antagonistic to Dottore. This makes more sense, but also just shows that she didn't like him. And lastly, I'm quite sure that House of Wolves swayed some views, despite not being official. Honestly, can't blame them... that video is amazing.

But was she really rewritten? I'm not sure Hoyoverse would introduce a character that far back just to completely change how they came out. It would probably upend quite a few things, and they usually plan pretty far ahead- for example, Zibai.

I'll reiterate, I understand being disappointed in the subversion of expectations. However, this is where I start to be a little more annoyed, because I've seen a number of people call her 'waifu bait.' Which I'm really not a big fan of. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying fan service doesn't exist in Genshin, I just don't think her relationship with the Traveler is solid evidence. I'm also on the side of being tired of hearing everyone say women can fight back against being censored and then turning to a game and saying they need to cover up. (But I also understand if a guy designed the character, in that case, that's obviously not the same.)

Anyways, if you pay attention to how she acts with the Traveler, how different is it really versus how she acts with Sandrone? The Traveler was an incredibly big part of saving her, of course they're close.

And to get to a big part of this, I also think that the way she interacts with people is going to be strange. It is practically outright stated that she really doesn't understand normal people. Signora having to teach her manners, misunderstanding why everyone in the House calls Arlecchino 'Father', her voiceline about alcohol, it's hardly even subtext. And furthermore, this is exhibited in the teapot. In her teapot dialogue, she requests help in practicing what to say to the Scions. The following exchange happens:

"Will you leave us again?"

"Yes."

"Pardon-?!"

She then goes on to state that people come and go from places all the time- once again misunderstanding the question. And honestly, I also feel like her irregular way of interacting with people may have contributed to how even her fellow harbingers see her.

It could also be true that she was bitter towards people for some time after seeing how the Scions were treating her- only for her perspective to change again upon realizing that the Fatui was doing the same. We can't really be sure, as the only time we see anything potentially similar is upon meeting her for the first time, where she ignores questions she doesn't care for, but does blatantly threaten the Traveler when she thinks we're here on the Fatui's behalf.

I also just hate the double standard on everyone saying she was moaning and thinking it's weird and disgusting, meanwhile when Varka does it, it's no problem and attractive. Everyone only points out fan service when referring to women in game, and not to men, EVEN when things like that are a thing. (Cough cough, Kaveh's trailer is a big pointer.)

And my last talking point is just to say that making her an angel might not have worked well in regards to the lore. Though the angels could be rebellious, they have a clear draw towards guiding humanity, as seen with Nicole- who is human, but still retains this trait, as she finds joy in guiding others to treasure (as we do in her cabin). That's a big reason why making her an actual angel of sorts doesn't really fit, and with angels being a thing, it's a bit pointless to try and fit in something that's adjacent but different. Her winged headpiece is homage instead to her dove motif.

Okay, I think I've (finally) run out of points to make, this is just my perspective and slight character analysis. Please be civil if you have anything to say, and also know that if I come on here, the only reason I'm online is to reply to people.

The internet terrifies me slightly, I'm not used to openly posting rants and things with my opinion, but thank you for reading. If you actually did read through this, ily <3

#rant #long post #genshin impact #columbina genshin #columbina hyposelenia #character opinion #(I'm so nervous maintagging this </3)

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for april fools we’re deleting this entire site sayonara you weeaboo shits

I’m not picking apart what you say. i agreed with a lot of your sentiment! i just think infantilized traumatized people is not a good way to address bad behavior and i totally appreciate what you’re trying to convey and that infantilizing them was not the goal but ‘these are children’ is textbook infantilization.

Well, uh, I'm sorry then, it was just how I was viewing it based on my own patterns. I guess I can be a bit too quick to act in defusing. Keeping things calm is kind of a big deal for me.

Like I said, I doubt there will be a next time, but I'll try to remember anyhow (kinda difficult with OSDD + ADHD but I do try!)

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oh, sorry, no, i mean the people you’re defending by calling them children are already excusing their behavior by saying they’re traumatized and can’t be expected to act better. i do think your post inappropriately infantilized them but you have a legitimate point. i just do also think people are well aware they’re behaving out of trauma and they’re already using that as an excuse to completely dismiss any feedback or accountability. there’s easily half a dozen posts circulating about how the devs deserve everything everyone is saying because what did they expect stealing things from trauma communities etc.

Ohh, that I understand. I'm definitely not gonna deny that some people are just being rude and then brushing it off. They need way more help than a simple encouraging post can offer, assuming they ever want to change at all. Every community has those kinds of people.

My apologies if it came off as infantilization! Part of it is genuinely just based on how I felt in the moment of finding out- scared of change, and upset about having to do all that work again. I've personally come to see those moments as younger years coming back. Everyone sees things differently, so it's good to hear other perspectives so I know how to word things better in the future- though I hopefully won't have to say anything similar in the future.

I have a tendency to give the benefit of the doubt a little easily, so I haven't tried to label anyone as the reason for all this, besides those genuinely harassing the devs, as I don't doubt the part that played.

Unfortunately, this is just becoming another thing to put pro and anti endos against each other. Even with my own opinions, I don't see a reason to get involved. Everyone is going to believe what they do because of how they perceive the world. I just tend to stay in the know about it all and offer support wherever possible.

(Once again, hope this makes sense, I had a harder time getting my words right on this one </3)

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please don’t infantilize the grown ass adults who are behaving horribly and making excuses about how trauma means they can’t possibly be expected to behave any better. even if a part of us is stuck in childhood or we are carrying trauma that doesn’t make us children and we are accountable as adults for how we behave and treat others.

Okay. I'm not saying that this excuses anything, I specifically said that in the post because obviously, no one should let it slide, even for actual children. Even kids are held responsible for things.

What I wanted to get across with my post was that we have been affected by the trauma we went through, and in turn, that has changed how many people react. I want to acknowledge that part that didn't learn how, because recognition is an important step in healing.

It's clear to me that a number of people are scared, and since many of us never learned how to handle it, are acting out. Whether it's to keep people away, out of fear of rejection or making mistakes, or because yelling only makes them want to yell louder.

Taking that part of you and seeing it as a nothing more than terrified kid makes it easier to handle. After all, sometimes it's viewed more as something that makes you a monster.

Recognize what you've done wrong. Yelling at others, starting drama, pointing fingers, whatever it was. See why that (likely) defense mechanism is happening. Then take a step back, breathe, and try something else.

I hope that made sense, I'm not very good with words or tone, and I'm not a professional, just a piece of someone who had to figure things out on their own, besides going to therapy for a while (sadly back on the wait list right now, thanks America lol)

And thank you for being civil!

#-🪢#askbox answers by Durin #syscourse #<- I guess I can tag that #see previous post for context #long post #I forgot that on my other one

Just wanted to take a moment after looking at the Octocon tag, because there's a lot of fighting on who did what

Please remember that the people (disordered systems, at least) are all just scared and traumatized children. It isn't an excuse to harass anyone (please don't harass anyone, debates and arguments are okay if they're civil), but it is an explanation as to why we aren't handling this properly. Many of us never learned how to. My last therapist once said, "There will always be a part of you that's a kid, and it will show in your worst moments."

We are all terrified, that's true, but take a step back for a bit. It's annoying to transfer everything, it's disheartening that there isn't a solid alternative right now, and it's scary how sudden all of this is. But it'll be fine.

There are great minds cooking up alternatives right now, as long as you're patient and kind. You don't have to be afraid. Import what you need to for now, so you have your headcount in Pluralkit. You'll likely be able to transfer that when the time comes.

You've survived this long, whether you needed help managing this or you figured it out on your own. Either way, it isn't hopeless, it isn't forever, and it's far from over.

No matter who you are, no matter our differences in opinion, you are loved, and you have more strength than you believe. So you'll survive.

Take some time for yourself today. Take care of yourselves, if just for that little kid who really really needs it. I've got a day of nothing but gaming to get back to, so I'll see you around.

💜 With love, from Durin of the Catastrophic Collective

#octocon #syscourse #simply plural #sysblr #plural system #osdd system #did system #-🪢

If you do fall asleep eepy well silly

I sure hope so

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Okay im gonna ie for a minute dont die on me while im gon or ill be sad

I might man I might fall asleep

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Warm bath to sooth my pain god help mr

Godspeed

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So glad birdcall doesn't have to experience the #horrors of america