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https://x.com/baysuii/status/2076758689092903299?s=6

Jkkrs hypocrisy is so crazy and u should see the gaslighting in the replies to defend themselves. They don't really care about jk being sexualized they just want to be the only one to sexualize jk and jm so they can control the narrative because nothing is more scary for a jkkr than jk being perceived as a bottom.

https://x.com/JMnkttygang/status/2077320636540539023

As I said in one of my last asks, they think they're the epitome of the queer community protectors but will see JM and JK's friendship through a very heterosexual lens, where JM is the wife and JK is the husband. Anything that says otherwise gets them mad. People like OP are disgusting.

Also shippers' and even armys (they're shippers too) ability to sexualize the most normal interactions really needs to stop but it's never going to stop cause their mind just works like that. Freaks all of them are.

https://x.com/minkifixon/status/2077335609023267086

BTS when?

At least not until it benefits them.

So I read a few nice older asks that were sent to me at the start of last month, but since the anons wanted me not to share them and just wanted to vent to me, I won't post them. Also, just letting them know that I read them and I hear you.

Now, there are still many old asks, and there are new asks too, so I have decided to answer the old asks that y'all want me to. So if you sent me an ask about a month or so ago and want me to answer it, please let me know and I'll answer it, because I can't decide what to answer—whether I should answer the new asks or the older ones. Plus, some of the old ones were related to topics/incidents that were going on at that time, so answering them now would only confuse others, and even I don't have the same things going on in my mind anymore. Sometimes some asks can only be answered at a specific time because you have those things in mind at that moment.

My week is also over, so I'm going to the office in a few hours. Plus i answered many asks in the last 2 days yet the asks count is still the same cause of the new asks so yeah.

#jikook

In regards to that whole shipping topic:

BTS have shown that they don't need to engage in false rumours to protect something. I think that despite the many, many saesangs and people willing to sell BTS private info for personal gain, they have their private life very much tight wrapped.

We as a collective know about the people they have wanted to share with us. We know that Namjoon had a pretty tough friendship/relationship break-up from RPWP. We know that Jin has very close friends from outside the kpop sphere from one of his vlogs before MS. Hell, we only recently learned that both Yoongi and Hobi have had cat(s) for years now.

So it's not unreasonable to me to assume that they have been able to keep their romantic relationships quiet. Korea is a country that has surely enough elite clubs and restaurants to go on cute dates to, otherwise their chaebols and celebrities wouldn't function. People make it their business the keep these things secret. BTS have a whole team of publicists, body guards and whatever else on their payroll. Whenever something does slip through their net - and that has happened both to JK and to Tae - there is a pretty instant counter action. But Hybe never denies anything. I think they know that denying any relationship wouldn't really work because social media is so different from previous gossip sources.

I don't know if JK is in a relationship with anyone, or if it's serious. The fandom at large talks a lot about "let's not be surprised if they're all married", which I think is a pretty healthy mindset. But we also shouldn't be shocked if they're not in a long-term relationship.

It's not something they talk about a lot, maybe because they feel like they have no right to complain, but their level of fame has surely made relationships incredibly difficult. I'm close to their age and while many of my friends are talking about marriage, I similarly know of couples that have broken up after a decade or so of being together. I know people that have been single for a long time for whatever reason. It's not easy to maintain a healthy relationship, or date, when you're a functioning adult. That's something the younger fans don't grasp - they think college/university is the busiest they'll ever be, but for most of us that's not reality.

So while I think that anyone would be very lucky to call one of BTS their partner, and no matter how much I wish them to find someone who they can spend the rest of their life with, it's very forward to assume anything about them.

The question of Jikook remains. Do they seem very 🌈? Yeah. But a lot of healthy male friendships are like that, just like female friendships. People that are comfortable with each other, their relationship and their sexuality can just be flirty with their friends. It doesn't discount the fact that they might be together or at least were at some point. I am still a Jikooker at the end of the day. Maybe because I'm that much of a hopeless romantic. Maybe because their expressions of love towards one another are so intense.

At the end of the day I just hope BTS get to live their lives. They haven't known peace from the media, online hate and insane fans for over a decade and I don't know how they do it.

This is an old ask so idk if you'll see this and i don't really have much to add anon. I agree with most of the part.

#jikook

So what is your stance on jikook? What's your story with the ship? Did you use to ship them romantically and stopped because of the dating rumors or were you always a skeptic ? Mind to share? Because from your answers it sounds like you shipped them but you weren't the delulu kind is that right?

Will try to make it as short as I can.

So, I entered the fandom for JM, then got into JK because of their close bond. Got to know there's shipping in K-pop and that it's a part of K-pop and all. I also found them during one of my lowest points. I've watched 3–4 analysis videos, like almost all shippers do, but they were only those VLive analysis videos from Mizgator, and in all these years, those were the only analysis videos I ever watched about Jikook. I personally don't like watching analysis videos, edited videos, and stuff like that, so I never went that route. I watch raw clips without any BG music and all, and that's just what I have watched. I had been in another shipping fandom right before that (my ship did turn out to be true, though), so I know what BG music can do to a video, how these supposedly media works, and how these so-called media take shit from Twitter and put it right there as if it's some sort of fact and all. So, I was aware of these things.

As I said, I'm JM-biased, so I do say that JM has a soft spot for JK. JM is, in general, a very sweet and caring human, but he does favor JK more than others. Maybe it's because JK is younger, and when JM met JK, he was barely 15–16 years old. So, you know how JM is with younger people. He takes it as his responsibility to take care of them.

Anyways, so yeah, I got into Jikook because of their close bond. As I said, I did notice JM loving JK more and how loud he was about his love for JK (the love doesn't have to be romantic).

JK, in their early years, may have been a brat, but over the years he got soft with JM, and I did see him treating JM gently too. Idk, it could simply be because JM himself is so gentle that you can't help but be just as gentle with him. That's how we are IRL too, right? Being a shipper means you ship X person with Y, so I can't really say if I was a shipper or not. Like, yes, I enjoyed all their moments together, but the thing about me was that I never thought they were dating at all. Never once in all these years did I ever think that they're secretly dating or anything. All I did was enjoy their moments together, and when people would say they're in an RS, my mind would always go, "Oh, but they wouldn't do this or that if they were in an RS with each other." People here say that I'm a bitter ex because they don't act the way I want them to be, when the truth is I have always questioned things from the start. I never went with what other shippers said about XYZ moments. I have always seen things from my own perspective and have always stuck with what I feel and think about the moment, which is also why many theories and assumptions were too much for me because I simply couldn't agree with them.

Then started their solo era, and I think y'all know how things have been during that time. I won't lie, during late 2022 itself I started feeling that JM and JK weren't hanging out as much as they used to. I have also shared these things with other JKKrs, but no one took it seriously, and then we had JKK themselves admitting it in AYS1. And I think since then it's been a downfall of what I used to feel.

A lot happened in between, like JK probably back-hugging a woman at his house (I believed that was him), then later last year we had other videos of him with a woman, then the whole Daeun thing. Like, I already never believed JKK dated, so after all these incidents, would I have any other reason to believe they're dating? No.

Plus, I'm someone who pays attention to small details where, you know, I see how much they currently know about each other to understand how much they're into each other's lives. It used to be like they knew a lot about each other, probably because they were attached at the hips, but for the past couple of years, or say since the solo era, it isn't like that. So that's also something that stuck with me.

What I feel about them now is that they're still close to the point that they can enlist together as companions despite not being in touch for some time, that Jimin can still easily tell what's on JK's mind just by his breathing (as said by him), that they care for each other the same, that they will still do anything for each other, that they're still soft for each other, and that they still have the same physical closeness. What changed, I think, is that they don't hang out as much as they used to before the solo era. And some things, like priorities and interests, could be different, so maybe that's why. I think that's the only thing that changed.

Anyways, now if you ask me why I have this blog and why I do this rather than just leaving, it's just that I wanted to share some things that I never got the chance to express well before, so I'm just doing it now. The day I feel I'm done expressing all my thoughts, or the day I feel I don't want to continue this anymore, I'll simply leave.

Despite whatever I feel about them now, I'm always defensive when it comes to JKK because I still feel like I want to answer when someone compares them with other duos based on what content they're getting. Like, you're not gonna say they're not close because they're not hanging out together. I'll defend their bond till I can.

That's it.

#jikook

Today is silver day so jm not going with them would be too bad for their ship, thats why they're saying he's also in paris even if they're not sure. Anyway, jk is going out in paris without jm

I don't get why JKKRs are so hell-bent on those days when JM specifically said about White Day (I think?) that he doesn't celebrate those days or care about them. So why project your own ideas onto them when they don't even mean anything to the person you're projecting onto? Jungkook went to the gym with VHope (him going to the gym is more like the sky being blue) and watched the fireworks on his own, even if he was there with VHope.

#jikook

i don’t think any bts ships are real but your focus on jikook makes you look hella obsessed with them. and it’s high key crazy how much emphasis you put on shippers who ship them when a MAJOR problem of bts ships are tkkrs overall, like you’re literally part of the problem.

Anon, I talk about Jikook and Jikookers more because I was in those spaces for years, and I wanted to talk about things that I didn't get to before. I want to share my opinions with people who think the same. So if I made a blog to talk about them, who else would I be talking about? But don't worry, I'll talk about TKKRs too here and there.

Okay, I'll answer the old asks first (I just answered a few) because they keep getting pushed back. I don't really want to use the Jikook tag because I'll be spamming it too much while answering these asks, but these asks were sent days and even months ago, so I don't know if the person who sent them will be able to read them or if they're from someone on my followers list or if it's the same people lol.

I have a week off, but I also have other things to do, so I'll try to answer as many asks as I can in between. So if it seems like spam in some tags and you don't like it, please block me (I'm sure I'm already blocked by many people lol).

I also want to cover as many topics as I wanted to so I can end this as fast as I can. I mean, that's how I feel right now—I might change my mind later.

Also, don't mind if my answers are long and include some topics from here and there because I use y'all's asks as a way of expressing my thoughts on topics I've always wanted to talk about. So when I see similar topics, I add them all together. Whenever I think I'll make a separate post to keep the answer short, I end up forgetting what the topics were that I wanted to talk about. So yeah, don't mind if the answers are long. But please do tell me if they're too long and you don't want them to be.

Also, I want to thank everyone for sharing their thoughts with me so that we've been able to have our little discussions on different topics and read different opinions.

#jikook

Jimin catches a cold and is generally unwell, so his BF goes to the company dinner and gets "much drunk" then leaves Vegas with Tae Jin and Joon. Okaaaaaaay

When JK gets home he goes out on his own in Itaewon, drinks - waxes poetic about loss and then gives the place his autograph and leaves ALONE.

Yeah... I am not seeing BF. Boyfriend comes over and makes you soup, cuddles on the couch and takes care of you. What a BF doesn't do is enjoy a Japanese meal near his house ----- alone ------ and then post on Instagram.

Jikookers were positive JK was with JM because there was a male voice on the video. They are convincing each other JM was with JK.

No. He wasn't there. Neither was Tae or Winter. None of his ships were there with him.

Jikookers have lost the plot or maybe they are writing it on Wattpad.

Partners don't always have to do the things you mentioned anon. A person can handle a cold on their own. And you're not seeing any boyfriend behavior because they simply aren't boyfriends. You'll find problems with their behavior if you believe they're dating, but you won't have any problems if you believe they're just friends.

And shippers love making up stuff to the fullest.

#jikook #jikookers

Jungkook getting the tattoo at his vulnerable state is why I can’t see it to be very meaningful? Like joon said “he cried his eyes out” when they met for drink and he had that tattoo in that state of mind just screams impulsive to me

Sometimes people can be very honest when they're vulnerable too, anon. They also do things they want to do in that moment, so even if JK got that tattoo in a vulnerable state, it would still mean that he did it because he felt it was important enough to have it on his arm.

#jikook #Jungkook tatto

I have a theory.

We all know that when taennie were dating, tae was doing the maximum fanservice with jk.

And guess when jk started also fueling up tkkrs non stop, something he never done before, it happened when his dating scandals started

So my theory is, both boys are straight, both are helping each other cover up the girls they're dating. Cause they know this fandom is crazy and will never accept them dating girls.

Sadly, jm is caught in the middle with a big hate train caused by both jkkrs and tkkrs who refuse to accept that these two ships aren't real.

Anyway, while tkk are happy now with their girlfriends, once they decide to marry, they will reap what they sow. Those girls will be bullied by army/tkkrs/jkkrs for years to come.

Opinions. Theories. Possibilities.

#jikook

Been following bts since 2016, been following kpop even longer and i've seen all sorts of things but army are a special case of toxic. Things were already bad in 2016 but they're just just getting worse by the day. At this point idk what bts could do to stop them. JK could get married have kids and constantly be posting about his het life and people would still be shipping him with tae or jm and still be toxic af abour it (they' d be harassing his wife and kids). I'm not saying he is het, he could be queer idk how to interpret his "coming out of a closet" idk if it's a thing in korea like if they use a different expression or his "I go the other way" in 2023. What I'm saying is they could all have wives and families and ppl would still be shipping them. Also the amount of sexualisation from shippers is reaaaaally disturbing. Idk if it's because I come from a different culture that's closer to korean culture than the western culture but I see moments and move on while shippers are already hypersexualising the most minimal random moments. To think that so many minors are army... it's all really creepy. Like ppl are really mentaly disturbed and it's by the hundreds of thousand atp.

Agree with what you said.

And oh god, about the sexualization of even the smallest things—I genuinely want ARMYs to stop doing that. You call them out, and they're going to say, "Oh, learn to take a joke," "You're too woke," "It's shipping culture, it's common," "You must be fun at parties," and whatnot. What they don't realize is that it just shows how porn-addicted their minds are when they're sexualizing even the smallest and most normal things the boys do together.

#jikook #armys #fandom shipping #BTS

https://www.tumblr.com/cathedralofdoubt/822145295022440448/jikookers-dont-get-tired-of-making-up-stuff-and?source=share

What theory did they make up again?

About JKK being together watching the fireworks, some people are even questioning whether all the members went to Paris because only VHopeKook have been seen in Paris. Some are saying the other members stayed back in Munich with their parents, as there are rumors that the parents of a few members were there during the Munich concert.

But here come the JKKRs making up stuff, and then they say they know how to see them as individuals. Like, you know it was JK's story, so why include JM in it?

#jikook

Just changed my username and profile pic ☺️

Jikookers don't get tired of making up stuff and stories and then ending up embarrassing themselves. They genuinely never learn, and all of that only leads to JM getting hate in return from TKKRs. Like, I get that you love being clowns, but at least think about the hate JM gets because of your BS theories.

#jikook #jikookers and them making up stories #they never learn #wonder if they have embarassing kink or something

My personal take on Jimin's TikTok account is that it's fine if he opens one, but it's also more than fine if he doesn't. I myself have never cared for TikTok—I haven't even installed the app on my phone—so yeah, I really don't care about it that much. So if JM opens one, then fine, but if he doesn't, that's more than fine with me too. I've also never craved for him to do TikTok challenges, so him not doing them is perfectly fine with me as well.

BUT what I've always wished for JM to do is post a full choreography for a song on his YouTube account or something. Something like what Lisa from BP does? She's posted many dance covers, and I think almost all of them went viral. I'm the #1 Jimin dance enthusiast, so I've always wanted him to try something like that. I've also wished for him to, you know, collaborate with different artists—be it male or female idols or even dancers—to do some dance-centric performances. Imagine Jimin doing contemporary dance with a female dancer or idol? It'd be so iconic.

I love his "ThisIsJimin" content, and I wish he continues doing whatever he loves. He doesn't need to follow any trends when he can create one.

Also, I forgot to mention in one of my last posts that just because I said, "Have you ever seen JM doing any of these trends before?" doesn't mean I think he'll never do it. In the future, he might. He's talked about opening a new TikTok account, so who knows? Maybe he'll do these trendy dances and all. My point was simply to let it happen on its own and not involve him where he isn't present. Let the TikToks posted by the members be just about themselves.

#jimin #dance

Can we please ask jm when he's live to release be mine english version as single. Pleaseee, tell him to do an mv for it too and release that hot choreo. It really fits the summer and it deserves more love.

Anyone who's going to be in soundcheck, please ask him too

Oh, I'd so love for him to do a full choreography for "Be Mine." All JM lovers are WAITING for it. I really wish he does it for his solo tour (I think he will).

And yeah, someone who's attending the concert should really show him a sign asking for the "Be Mine" choreography, and hopefully he sees it. Let's spread the word so someone actually does it. And i really really love this song i think i have listened to "Be mine" just as much as "Who" when it dropped.

#jimin

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