I wanna make a post on Tumblr because this site is so much easier to actually convey thoughts without a limit. I also want to spread this to other sites since I understand that not everyone has Twitter. I am seeing a lot of misinformation spreading that I never said or my words have been twisted or actually misunderstood.
(Also, yes this is stirringjuice from twitter. I did have another account with the same name on here but I don’t use it.)
First thing, ME AND DB USE HE/THEY PRONOUNS. WE ARE BOTH TRANS! AND BOTH ADULTS!
I know it was so stupid of me to not include that and I was hoping for people to just use “they” when it wasn’t stated otherwise. I was going to leave it alone because a lot of us have been called childish or immature for speaking out. But it’s now incredibly uncomfortable and I’m tired of it. Yes, I am taking the fault on it.
I would also like to say that I originally wanted to be anonymous and not have people use Ven. But unfortunately, people started using my name and I no longer could disconnect myself from this situation.
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“The Mandela Catalogue is actually fetish content”
No. I have NO idea why people twisted a small explanation I made into something very gross. There is no proof that this series was made because of a fetish. There are multiple interviews where Alex explains his inspiration for this series. Please stop saying it’s a fetish content.
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“Alex is a pedophile.”
None of us have ever mentioned about him being a pedophile and I originally explained that there was no evidence of him being a groomer.
I saw grooming as only associated with manipulating young kids into sexual acts. I gave Alex so much credit that he wouldn’t stoop that low. However, after hearing from other victims, grooming can happen to anyone. And it’s honestly a good way to describe this situation. He groomed multiple fans just for sexual gratification.
I do find it weird to compliment or show affection towards a minor the same way you would with a partner. He does speak like this to everyone of all ages.
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“Alex is severely ill.”
Yes! So are a lot of us who are affected by him. Mental illness can be an explanation but not an excuse for someone’s actions.
Understand that several of us gave support to Alex because we probably relate to his experiences. I myself have issues with paranoia, depression, and anxiety. I was always there for him.
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“All/some of the messages are faked.”
None of them. Yes some of them are cropped. (This is an explanation for only me and DB’s experiences) The messages that surrounded Alex for all of them would have been us reciprocating or sexting. Which something I already mentioned in the document and the explanation of why it’s still malicious. I felt uncomfortable with the non-con fantasies despite reciprocating because if he never opened up to me about it, would he still do it? Or what if I said no? It freaked me out because he implied in a call that he had these fantasies before with other people.
Messages from servers can be confirmed by witnesses who were in those servers. I made a video of me and DB’s dms with his discord id, alongside with my recording of my instagram dms.
I can’t fully show mine or DB’s discord messages because DB wants to stay anonymous.
The reason why his icon is erased is because of discord’s transcript. DB’s icon does this as well (which, honestly, I don’t know why I covered it up now thinking about it. It literally did not matter).
Here are a few more examples of messages from the transcript (this time being on mobile).
Also, our messages matches with other people’s experiences. Please, PLEASE, do not only read my document. I believed we all shared the same experiences that creates a bigger picture.
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“You promised about not sharing details.”
I don’t know how to explain this in the most simple terms when I felt like I explained it the best in the document. Also, decisions can be changed later.
This is not me being manipulative or a liar. There were so many adjustments to this document that involved me not even telling my side of the story because of what I said before. Like, yes, I know what I said.
I originally did not want to spread anything outside of my conversation because from my perspective DURING THAT TIME, I did not see Alex as malicious. I saw him as incredibly childish and incredibly emotionally incompetent.
My side is supposed to represent the amount of times I tried to get him help and him continuously hurting himself or others, and still ended up in this position. Also, the parallels between me and DB’s experiences (and now that more came out, Jeremy’s experiences as well).
That’s why I was aggressive during our last few encounters because he lied about wanting to improve. He said he wasn’t ready for a relationship and then goes out and hurt people. He has done this several times.
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“You’re transphobic / outted him.”
Don’t be a groomer then. Also look at @kiwivskiwi post. https://www.tumblr.com/kiwivskiwi/745057126643384320/alex-kister-and-actively-using-being-trans-to-lure
I've seen a lot of people who have read the google doc about Alex Kister and have taken away the idea that Stirringjuice (who wrote it) is t
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“Why don’t you show his face?”
Someone pointed out that his bed covers do match. I also knew that people were going to call me transphobic or that I’m humiliating him for posting these photos online. The best decision was to cover them up and they are never being released.
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“Why did you release this the same time as other allegations?”
Almost purely coincidence. I was inspired by Shelby’s experience to speak out because I saw parallels with the way that Wilbur replied and acted (the manipulation).
This has been in the works since January and it would’ve been out in February but reliving these experiences actually made me dissociate several times. It gave me migraines and heavy anxiety that made me lose my appetite. I hated reliving it over and over again.
Which is why I wanted to disconnect from it. I didn’t ever expect this to gain so much attention so fast. And after all of this is done, you will never see me again. I hated every single moment of it.
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I will be using this account as a way to answer questions, I will NOT be answering anything that seems aggressive.
The reason why I wanted to be more spoken out about this is to prevent any creators misusing their platforms and taking advantage of their fans.
I am not saying I am victim of this, my experience is to show he has not changed at all. I hardly even want to call myself a victim.
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