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Anyway. Too many posts assuming whumper is powerful and competent and well liked. Show me an absolute fucking loser who's gonna take it out on the poor bastard they got their hands on.
In fact, show me someone who's Perfectly Average, but hates that they're not exceptional. Show me the girl who could've had the world if she pushed a little harder, and is going to burn it all down because she fell just short. This isn't a revenge arc, this isn't her tormenting her rival or getting back at the CEO who made a shitty decision. This is her taking control by ruining someone who has no say in the matter.
GIFTOBER 2025 | day 9: injured/wounded
Leo Suter in Lynley 1.04 'With No One as a Witness'
i am going to recommend you something itâs from saw III google saw amanda mercy kills adam trust me on this take my hand and trust me
This?
It's pretty good. A little dark, lighting wise, tho meaning it's hard to see exactly what's happening.
forced immortality is a fun trope. unappreciated. someone/something wants you to remain so it makes you. it will not let you die
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âIn the war film, a soldier can hold his buddyâas long as his buddy is dying on the battlefield. In the western, Butch Cassidy can wash the Sundance Kidâs naked fleshâas long as it is wounded. In the boxing film, a trainer can rub the well-developed torso and sinewy back of his protegeâas long as it is bruised. In the crime film, a mob lieutenant can embrace his boss like a loverâas long as he is riddled with bullets.Â
Violence makes the homo-eroticism of many âmaleâ genres invisible; it is a structural mechanism of plausible deniability.â
âTarantinoâs Incarnational Theology: Reservoir Dogs, Crucifixions, and Spectacular Violence. Kent L. Brintnall.
Near Dark dir. Kathryn Bigelow | 1987
Petition to change "whumper" and "caretaker" to "A" and "B" please I'm begging you.
As a longtime enjoyer of whump and hurt/comfort, I have to say I donât like the term âcaretakerâ. It carries to much real world connotation, medical baggage ect and feels icky. I get why itâs used bc itâs sort of a catch all term, since they can be anyone technically taking care of the whumpee. I tend to just use friend, rescuer ect, to avoid the term. As a hurt/comfort enjoyer, I propose âcomforterâ something along those lines.
tbh as someone who's been around the whump community a long time as well and is maybe a bit stuck in my ways, it's also kind of weird to think about bc like... i remember when i started hanging out in these circles, that's... not really a word that was used? (nor was whumper in the sense of the character role, actually, i'm pretty sure, though we did call ourselves whumpers - usually for the character role you'd just say "villain", but also back then you used to see a lot more environmental/wilderness whump and other scenarios where there wasn't always necessarily anyone actively purposefully inflicting harm on the whumpee, the harm just happened due to other forces)
like, in the prompts and scenarios you'd see around, it would never be "caretaker" it'd be "medic", "teammate", "friend", "s/o", or whatever, something more focused on what the character doing the helping is to whumpee outside the moments when the whump is happening. Like the specific word caretaker wasn't really used at all when I was new to whump, though I couldn't tell you when it started being common
tbh i think i kinda preferred things that way, too, though for me that's less because the word itself feels icky and more because i do actually like that specificity, i'm very much interested in who the characters are to each other outside of the context of one of them being hurt and vulnerable and in need of help or comfort, and how what they are to each other colors the dynamic when one (or both) characters are hurt and need all that
I think a lot of that shift has happened because people have gradually taken "whumpee", "whumper", and "caretaker" to be rigid archetypes, rather than temporary, situational descriptors.
Your last paragraph really hit the nail on the head.
A lot of what makes whump compelling as a storytelling device gets lost when these dynamics stop shifting. A medic who sometimes gets hurt themself, who gets too stressed and turns snappy when they shouldn't, and still has a bond with the victim where they mutually support one another when no one else does is far, far more intriguing than 'the one whose role is to be a one-way, endless source of comfort-giving, full stop'.
For as much as whump is centered around empathy, the way these archetypes sometimes get used is very dehumanizing. It flattens the stories, and takes away so much. I wish we saw the average whump story focus more on charactersâcomplicated, messy, multi-dimensional charactersâthan roles.
This is an EXCELLENT breakdown and Iâd add that this type of flattening has become really prevalent across all media and fandom over the past decade.
There has been a noticeable shift towards âtropificationâ of stories. Like, I was a fan of TVTropes back in its heyday but this is an extreme. It feels like now people are actively seeking out specific tropes and creating based almost solely on strict interpretations of those tropes. And with that has come a certain subset of folks who seem to get upset or even offended when their preferred tropes arenât âdone rightâ or donât go the way they want or expect.
(Caveat: Iâm not saying this mindset didnât exist before, but the predominant way fandom operates nowadays is strongly influenced by this sentiment in a way that it wasnât before.)
Tropes arenât rules. Theyâre not even guidelines. Theyâre just patterns that repeat across stories.
No one should be beholden to these sort of strict archetypes - theyâve never been meant for that.
I've also noticed a shift that makes whump resemble more sub/dom relationships in that meta kinda way which just...doesn't seem to fit for me.
people who have an oc universe with a title as if itâs a game or a book series or whatever are genuinely the sexiest people to exist. itâs just a fact. there is nothing more attractive than passion for the things you create
especially if youâre a little unhinged and obsessive about it acting like a mad scientist whenever youâre creating new lore or someone asks you about it
Mine is called "Die Trying" but as a project it's always in the planning stage haha
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im a fucking sucker for the âcharacter gets so badly injured that they canât think clearly and start calling for help in a distressingly vulnerable way.â characters who start using nicknames for their friends they havenât used since they were kids. characters who start begging for their brother they havenât seen in years to be there. characters who would usually use their parentsâ names or call them mother/father/etc crying out mama when they go down. u understand.
Characters who are so closed off abouf their past calling out a name their new friends have never heard before
No wait thatâs actually an amazing idea
A strong healing magic that works with a twist. It takes away from the others opposite health. Ex: Heal physical and it drains their mental health.
Bonus points if it drains the healerâs health instead of the opposite health.
magic that drains the healer whilst healing the whumpee is the best kind and no one can tell me otherwise
Healing that drives you crazier and crazier would be amazing!!
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