[crokus]

I've migrated to @mn-56 for longevity in the face of technology issues. That is where my Thief posts will be found in the future, for those interested.

[crokus]

Part 2 of the amusing Thief walkthroughs: it-he.org/theef2.php

They have Thief 1, Thief 2, and several other games. While I have not examined those, I'm sure they contain a similar quality to the Thief ones, which are both an extremely good time to read. If you like Thief and have a bit of time to spare, I'd highly recommend reading through these.

[crokus]

If you buy Thief Gold on Steam, there can be a problem where the cutscenes don't show.

Someone I know is having that problem, so I thought I'd post here what I told them: there are a few ways this problem could be solved.

Try running Steam as an administrator. This can fix the issue, and it's the first thing you should try.

Install a patch. Specifically, TFix. If you want the fewest changes to the game or don't have space, Tfix Lite is also available on the linked page and should fix the problem. Here's the link to a post that contains both: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134733

In the meantime or if you don't feel like messing around on your computer, the cutscenes can be found online pretty easily by searching up 'Thief 1 cutscenes' or similar phrases.

If none of these are working for you, some people have mentioned installing codecs or going into your file system. I haven't done these so I can't vouch for either, but you can find instructions for both if you so choose.

[clouds-of-wings]

I love how blatantly the style of the walls (which is standard Mechanist style) clashes with the style of the carpet (which has a pattern you’d see in a noble house). The Mechanist style features metal everywhere, usually in cold bright colours like blue, grey or white - it comes across as inhospitable (even if the pattern here itself is beautiful in a modern sort of way), plus you instinctively dislike it because this kind of floor is the second loudest in the game and you can’t run on it without drawing attention from everyone in the hemisphere. Their structures are hostile, unpleasant, brutalist.

And yet here, they invite the local nobility claiming to look for supporters, so they have to appeal to them, humor them, pander to them. They put this carpet into the rooms where the guests will be staying. I’d bet those carpets will be gone again as soon as the guests leave, unless the mechanists want to keep the option of having Angelwatch as a meeting place for Mechanists and outsiders for a while longer. In the places where the Mechanists are by themselves, if they use any carpets at all, those look like this:

(Disregard the person on the left, he’s merely asleep in some bloods.)

The standard “old world” carpets with their fancy, colourful, rounded patterns clash with the austere, modern, minimalist style of the Mechanist - it’s like the game is telling you visually that the Mechanists are disguising themselves as something they’re not in order to fool the nobles. Which indeed they are, as you find out a little later.

[kirbyddd]

i finally found the chaotic Thief walkthrough again

[whatstrendingnowblog]

Dark Narrative: Lord Bafford's Manor

A look at narrative design in the first mission of Thief: The Dark Project, Lord Bafford’s Manor. This piece considers AI conversations, readables, and objects in the gameworld and their contribution to the creation of narrative. from N4G: all news feed http://ift.tt/2nA0EHe from Blogger http://ift.tt/2nANtFT

[theoutcastrogue]

Assassin by Álvaro Gutiérrez Martín

[crokus]

Just wanted to share that I know someone who recently started playing through Thief Gold and found 12 loot in Lord Bafford's Manor. There's a total of 1429 loot in that level, and 12 is less than 1% of the total. Now that's talent.

It's also really fun (and funny) to watch someone else experience Thief for the first time, especially since stealth is not their default style of play. In response to their results, I've encouraged them to explore the levels instead of going straight to the main objective.

[pandemoniumart]

My favorite video game ever, Thief: The Dark Project, had it’s 20th-anniversary release this year so I had to celebrate the event by creating this poster.

True fans can buy a print of this over my store at Society6: https://society6.com/product/thief-20th-anniversary_print

[ritasanderson]

/eye emoji/

[jazzymcjazzface]

Visit Original Link

So for everyone who’s interested, here’s the loot pick-up noise from Thief: The Dark Project in a nice mp3 so you can use it for whatever your heart desires. It’s now my text alert.

[crokus]

Today I finally had time to start playing Styx: Master of Shadows. It's one of those stealth games that gets brought up pretty often when Thief fans on the internet recommend titles for other Thief fans to play, so I was curious.

I'm not very far in so I can't give a full review, but so far it seems good. There are definitely a few problems I found rather noticeable, but nothing that breaks the game. There are also some things I like quite a lot. If the quality keeps up I'll probably become one of those Thief fans on the internet who recommends it. It's pretty fun.

Elaborations below.

Positives:

Level design. After you get through the extreme railroading of the tutorial (which honestly had me a bit nervous), the rooms open up a lot. There's plenty of climbing and different ways to get places, which is awesome.

Creativity. I like that sand is used instead of water for extinguishing torches. Also, you can drop some chandeliers. You can run into loose objects to alert or distract guards. That stuff is fun.

Hiding. They took advantage of the character's shortness and let you go under tables and in tunnels. I love it. You can also hide in cabinets and chests, a mechanic I've missed in Thief. You can hide bodies in them, too.

Combat. The guards kill you fast, at least on hard difficulty. That is what I want from a stealth game.

Graphics. It looks nice. The models and textures are very pretty. The cutscenes are also great visually. Along with that, this game just has a nice atmosphere.

Looking through keyholes. Since you can't hear the guards this is a nice way to check the next room.

Negatives:

Sound design. There's not much. If you crouch, you're silent, speed nonwithstanding. At least jumping is noisy. Sleeping NPCs are shown with 'zzz' over their heads instead of a sound like snoring or something which would give the same meaning. The sound in this game is so underutlized.

In-game cutscenes. They're sparse, but immersion-breaking. In one case they stop the player just to show an NPC-NPC conversation which could just as easily been overheard as you reach the doorway. I'll be interested to see if this improves in future levels. The tutorials are also disruptive, but those are probably a first-level thing and should be gone soon.

Jumping, climbing, and mantling. It's not horrible, but I've already had a lot of trouble specifically with dropping from edges. It has this auto-grab mechanic which tends to stick, and once you do get off you often don't go straight down, you go forward. Jumping is also a bit touchy sometimes, mostly when you're just barely under some ledge.

Lack of options. You can't put out all open flames, only some. There's no nonlethal option for taking out guards. You can't close doors, but they close behind you after cutscenes so you can't go back. Again, you can drop some chandeliers, but not all. They show you doors and gates you can't get through.

Things I find a bit annoying, but are not bad enough to be fully called 'negatives':

Papers. I can't read any of them. I feel like there was such a missed opportunity here. Papers are a great way to give the player information without breaking play, and I can tell that this game's world has information to give. But nothing was given. And there are so many papers!

I don't know what my goal is (this could be my fault). They talk a lot about 'amber' and 'stealing the Heart of the Tree', but I'm not sure what that means. What is the 'Heart of the Tree'? How do I plan on stealing it? I know where this game is (probably) going abstractly, but not concretely. This is where the papers could come in to tell me about the 'Tree'.

There is not much to take. There are some coins, some bottles, but that's about it. The inventory is very limited so far (not sure how I feel about this yet, since the unlimited inventories of many games also bother me a bit). This feels very much like they're holding out during the first level so new players don't get overloaded, so it might change soon. It makes the whole place feel empty, even though there's so much stuff there.

Lockpicking. It's another case of TDP and TMA 'hold a key to pick the lock', but there aren't even two picks. Boring.

[ink13250013]

Thief Gold is a masterpiece.

[crokus]

So, based on my previous collection of Thief tags, these are the ones that seem (relatively) alive:

#thief

#thief series

#thief the dark project

#thief: the dark project

#the dark project

#thief gold

#thief: gold

#thief the metal age

#thief 2

#the metal age

#thief 3

#thief deadly shadows

By alive, I mean that they have a good amount of content and over 3 posts from 2021. Thi4f and varied content below cutoff. #thief trilogy is inconclusive.

Thi4f and varied content

#thief 2014

#thief 4

#garrett thief

#thief garrett

#thief 4 garrett

#looking glass studios

#stephen russell

[ec2151-blog]

I composed a piece paying tribute to one of the greatest games of all time, Thief: The Dark Project, for its 20th Anniversary. Eric Brosius was a genius.

Take a listen, Taffer!

[crokus]

In 2017, the film company Straight Up Films released a statement saying that a fifth Thief game (Thief 5) was in development along with the movie adaptation of the franchise that they were making. One of the Thi4f devs, David Anfossi, responded by saying that there would be no Thief 5.

Both Thief 5 and the film adaptation were to be set in the City of Thi4f. Straight Up Films has removed their announcement from their website, though there is still an article elsewhere on the site. There's pretty much nothing more recent than 2017 talking about a Thief movie, so I don't think it went anywhere.

I'm honestly glad nothing came of all that. Sources below cutoff.

Linked Above

Thief | Straight Up Films - Original claim by film company

Film Adaptation Of 'Thief' Video Game Series Coming From Straight Up Films - Description of movie

David Anfossi status - Original denial by Thi4f dev

Articles - Thief 5 and movie

Thief 5 and movie adaptation in development claims film company

Thief movie producers say a new Thief game is in the works

Thief Reboot Dev Responds To Rumors Of New Game -- "Forget It"

Developer denies 'Thief 5' in the works, but there will be a movie

Articles - movie adaptation

Hitman Producer Dreams Of Shared Square Enix Movie Universe

Thief movie adaptation sneaks into Hollywood

'Thief' Videogame Being Adapted Into Movie With Roy Lee

[crokus]

All right. I need to do this before I go insane while trying to tag things.

Organizing the Thief tags. Long post. Probably not that interesting. Tags under cutoff because there are a lot. Here is my format:

Category

#tag name - (notes: other uses, size, time of most recent post. dead or alive.)

#tag name - (notes: not in use / has other use)

Alive tags are at the top of the category. All information is current to November 2021 and may change in the future.

Edit: these were originally links but 90% of them broke so now they're not

Whole Series / General

#thief - (also includes anything and everything else called 'thief'. alive.)

#thief series - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief trilogy - (very small, posts from 2021. inconclusive.)

#thief game - (mostly Thi4f, posts from 2021. inconclusive.)

#thief original trilogy - (small, 1 post from 2021 then 2019. dead.)

#thief original series - (2 posts, 1 from 2021. dead.)

#thief games - (small, 1 post from 2021 then 2019. dead.)

The Dark Project

#thief the dark project - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief: the dark project - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#the dark project - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#dark project - (small, last post March 2021 then 2020. dead.)

#thief tdp - (last post June 2021 then 2017. dead.)

#thief 1 - (small, last post 2019. dead.)

#thief: tdp - (2 posts, last post 2013. dead.)

#thief 1 the dark project - (has never been used.)

#thief 1: the dark project - (has never been used.)

#thief I the dark project - (has never been used.)

#thief I: the dark project - (has never been used.)

#thief I - (has never been used.)

#tdp - (is not a Thief tag.)

Gold

#thief gold - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief: gold - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

also some from The Dark Project section

The Metal Age

#thief the metal age - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief 2 - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#the metal age - (pretty small but current. alive.)

#thief II: the metal age - (sizeable, 1 post from 2021. dead.)

#thief 2 the metal age - (small, 2 posts from 2021. dead.)

#thief: the metal age - (small, last post 2019. dead.)

#thief 2: the metal age - (small, 1 post from 2021. dead.)

#thief II the metal age - (2 posts, last post 2017. dead.)

#thief tma - (just one post from March 2021. dead.)

#thief II - (small, last post 2018. dead.)

#metal age - (small, last post 2020. dead.)

#thief: tma - (has never been used.)

#tma - (is not a thief tag.)

Deadly Shadows

#thief 3 - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief deadly shadows - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief: deadly shadows - (sizeable, 3 posts from 2021. inconclusive.)

#thief ds - (last post March 2021 then 2016. dead.)

#thief 3 deadly shadows - (1 post from 2018. dead.)

#thief III: deadly shadows - (1 post from 2011. dead.)

#deadly shadows - (last post February 2020. dead.)

#thief III - (1 post from 2017. dead.)

#t:ds - (mostly not Thief, only 2 Thief posts. dead.)

#thief 3: deadly shadows - (has never been used.)

#thief III deadly shadows - (has never been used.)

#thief: ds - (has never been used.)

#ds - (is not a thief tag.)

#tds - (is not a thief tag.)

#t: ds - (is not a thief tag.)

Thi4f

#thief 2014 - (sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief 4 - (some non-Thief use, sizeable, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thi4f - (sizeable, 2 posts from 2021. inconclusive.)

#thief reboot - (sizeable, last post from 2019. dead.)

#thiaf - (small, last post from 2017. dead.)

Garrett

#garrett thief - (mostly Thi4f, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief garrett - (mostly Thi4f, posts from 2021. alive.)

#thief 4 garrett - (posts from 2021. alive.)

Edit: #garrett (thief) - (mostly Thi4f. alive.)

#master thief - (not Thief exclusive, posts from 2021. inconclusive.)

#garrett - (other uses. dead for Thief.)

#garrett the masterthief - (very small, 3 posts from 2021. dead.)

#garrett jr - (last post March 2021 then 2019. dead.)

#garrett sr - (last post March 2021 then 2019. dead.)

#the master thief - (some non-Thief subjects, last post 2019. dead.)

#garrett the master thief - (very small, last post from 2018. dead.)

#masterthief garrett - (small, last post 2017. dead.)

Devs and Similar

Note: none of these are Thief exclusive

#looking glass studios - (alive.)

#stephen russell - (alive.)

#eric brosius - (last post 2020. dead.)

#square-enix - (mostly not Thief. alive.)

#eidos montreal - (mostly not Thief. alive.)

#eidos - (mostly not Thief. alive.)

#ion storm - (mostly not Thief. alive.)

Also

the ones that prompted this post, saying that thief was too hard to tag

Ones I do not think are worth including but will mention anyway

the ones for other characters. i.e. #viktoria, #karras, and #basso

the tags I included above but without spaces / with typos

#t1 #t2 and #t3 are not thief tags.

a whole lot of others that were probably only used once and in combination with one of the ones above

#stealth, #stealth games, #video games, #video game, #retro games, and similar categories

descriptions like #steampunk and #techno-medieval (bonus: #thief 2 aesthetic)

level names like #lord bafford's manor

quotes like #ye shall not rob from the house i have built

factions like #hammerites

#not including thief 4

thing like #thief fanart and #thief art

#taffer, which is a confounding tag and doesn't seem to be primarily about Thief

There are also some I am intentionally not mentioning. And I'm sure this isn't all, but I think it's all the major ones.