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[destinysalt]

Friends, listen to me together.

In the song "Jack's Lament," at one point Jack mentions his nicknames.

Mr. Unlucky.

Master of Fright.

But one I want to highlight is the following:

The Demon of Light.

I don't know if I'm overthinking things, but could it have a metaphorical meaning? A literal one? If we think about it metaphorically, it could be something like referring to the role Jack plays in his holiday.

Halloween is a holiday characterized by scaring, but Jack, despite being the King of the place and the one who organizes the festivities year after year, is a genuinely kind and gentle person despite his supernatural abilities and terrifying appearance.

But if we think about it literally, perhaps it could refer to some hidden power that Jack has...?

LISTEN TO ME, DON'T CALL ME CRAZY.

In the games, we can see that Jack has powers: he can turn into a scarecrow, become fire (and maybe another one, I don't know, I didn't play the game).

So, in a canonical sense, Jack has powers.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to think that Jack might have some power related to light or something like that.

But I don't know, maybe I'm just going crazy.

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I hate Tumblr; it deleted the rest of my message.

But anyway, to sum it up quickly: I started thinking about the theory of Jack's possible past while he was dead, and I'd like it to become a reality.

If we think about it, we haven't been told about any parent or guardian of Jack for years.

The little information we have is about how he became King and what his years were like before the movie.

Never about his origins.

And this is where the theory of Jack being dead comes in.

It would explain why he seems to be an orphan, how he arrived in Halloweentown, and why no one seems to touch on that topic in his universe.

But I want that past to be exclusive to Jack.

Don't get me wrong, I want it to be exclusive to Jack because I feel like his role as the protagonist would shine again.

In recent years, Jack, the protagonist, has been somewhat forgotten and sidelined, and the merchandise barely keeps him afloat.

Giving him this unique past would make him stand out again and remind him who the true protagonist was.

But here I'll tell you about Jack's potential traumas if this theory were to come true.

1- Feeling of Loss.

Upon learning about his past, Jack would feel a sense of loss sooner or later.

If Jack had friends, family, or acquaintances he got along with, the feeling of loss would be there, even if he had a family in Halloweentown.

The feeling would still linger, tormenting him.

2- Relationship with his killer.

We all agree that if the theory that Jack is dead comes true, it's because someone killed him.

Here, it doesn't matter how he died; what matters is who committed the act.

If it was someone close to him, like a family member, the feeling would be horrible: betrayal, pain, confusion, and fear.

But if it were a stranger, the immediate feeling would be hatred and resentment, the monster who stole his dreams and hopes.

How could it be worse? If he were still alive.

If Jack's killer were still alive, it would generate feelings of injustice, hatred, and resentment.

Mortal, immortal, party leader, human, new species, anything.

He would still be out there, living his life peacefully, happily, as if he hadn't stolen the life, dreams, and hopes of an innocent person who most likely wasn't even fifteen years old.

3-How would it develop

I'm thinking about a possible or impossible future where Tim Burton might eventually give in or allow the creator of "Long Live the Pumpkin Queen" and "Hour of the Pumpkin" to write a book about Jack.

I don't know if she said it explicitly, but I remember seeing somewhere that the reason she didn't do anything related to Jack was because she believed the character belonged to Tim Burton, and the one who had the right to do anything with him was his creator.

But after a conversation with my dad, I'm faced with the possibility that Tim Burton might leave Jack without any explanation about his past, forgotten, leaving only theories.

But if they were to write a book in the style of "Long Live the Pumpkin Queen," I would like it to also focus solely on Jack.

In the books "Long Live the Pumpkin Queen" and "Hour of the Pumpkin Queen," they managed to make the entire book focus on Sally and other new characters, barely making appearances or mentioning Jack at the beginning and end.

I'd like to see the same thing happen with Jack—a book entirely and exclusively about him. I mean, Sally has two whole books focused on her, her past, and insecurities, so why couldn't Jack have one too?

This would also give us the opportunity to explore the human world more, or perhaps a holiday related to death, something like the underworld or limbo.

Even if we put it that way, the main villain could be Jack's killer, who, upon learning that his victim is still alive, would seek to finish the job once and for all.

And Jack would have to escape him, without anyone's help, moving from place to place trying to hide, desperate to buy time and devise some strategy to get rid of him and somehow return to the safety of Halloweentown with his wife, all while a serial killer knocks on his door with increasing force, slowly discovering who he once was and constantly questioning: What could have become of him? Was his life better alive? What would he give to return home? Or rather,

Would he want to go back in time to prevent his death and live a normal life? And if the answer was yes, what would he give for that, and what would he lose in the process?

I don't know, just my thoughts.

[destinysalt]

I remember seeing a video a while back that claimed the true King of Halloween Town was the Grim Reaper, the real ruler, and that Jack was just a public figure, like a celebrity.

Besides, I've seen other people agree.

I don't, and here's why.

The Grim Reaper appears in the background of The Nightmare Before Christmas, in a couple of scenes, without any real authority or involvement.

But we can know that Jack is NOT the Grim Reaper, nor any symbol of death, because the Grim Reaper himself appears in the film, albeit in the background.

Even the book "Long Live the Pumpkin Queen" makes a small metaphor about the Grim Reaper, confirming that Jack is NOT the Grim Reaper; they are separate entities.

But I think Jack IS the King of Halloween Town.

Those familiar with Greek mythology will know who Hades and Thanatos are, but for those who aren't, I'll give a brief explanation.

Hades is the God of the Underworld, the place where all souls, all the dead, arrive after they perish.

And Thanatos is the God of death, the god who takes and sends those souls to the underworld.

Both are associated with death, but Hades is not the God of death, and Thanatos does not rule the underworld.

If the theory that only dead people reside in Halloweentown is true, then this comparison would become a reality.

The Grim Reaper would be like Thanatos, taking the dead to Halloweentown.

And Jack, as the King of the place, receives them and rules over them.

Jack IS the King of Halloweentown; he DOES rule there.

The Grim Reaper does have an important role, but he's not the King. In that case, he would work with Jack, bringing him souls to become new citizens.

Oh well, that would be my thought.

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Since tomorrow is Valentine's Day, I'd like to share an idea/alternate universe specifically about Jack and Sally.

Imagine, just for a second, that Sally isn't so shy and instead of just observing, she decides to take action.

In the movie, we see that Sally barely interacts with Jack; she hides and only listens to/watches him from afar.

Now, imagine an alternate universe where Sally isn't so shy and pessimistic about her chances with Jack.

Imagine her taking action! Giving him gifts, following him everywhere, striking up conversations, inviting him places—that sort of thing.

Imagine their relationship like the song "Never Ever Getting Rid of Me."

I would have loved to see a story, alternate universe, book, comic, or anything where Sally was more confident and acted that way with Jack.

Being more affectionate, but still respecting his boundaries.

But anyway, they're my parents.

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Random post lol.

Something that caught my attention while watching the episode "The Matchmaker" is that at one point in the episode, Sylvia grabs a bunch of pamphlets and starts showing them to Wander to try and distract him from his mission.

None of them work, except for one.

SOME DAMN OLD-FASHIONED CANDLES.

And I don't know if this is a joke, because seconds later a text appears that says "the funniest thing," implying that seeing an exhibition about candles isn't the most exciting thing in the world.

But if this were a genuine interest of Wander's, I would have liked to see it explored. Obviously, that was never going to happen because the series was canceled.

But in a parallel universe where Wander Over Yonder had its proper third season, I would have liked to see this strange but intriguing interest of Wander's explored—the reason why he likes it, a joke or two, I even have a headcanon where Wander has a whole collection of candles in his hat!

But anyway, a detail forgotten by the creator and the fandom itself.

[destinysalt]

Hi! It's been a while since I've posted anything here, but I'm back with a headcanon.

Wander's species, the Star Nomads, are invertebrate beings.

Now, here's the evidence.

In the episode "The Party Animal," Wander and Awesome have a dance battle.

(I'm not sure if that's the name of Awesome, I watch the episodes in another language but I hope I'm right)

Awesome and Wander are neck and neck until Wander pulls off these moves with his leg.

The picture might look strange, but those who saw the episode will agree with me that SOMEONE WITH BONES CLEARLY DOESN'T DO THAT.

And Awesome even shows some confusion when trying to imitate those movements; his legs limit him.

BECAUSE HE HAS BONES.

From a distance, Awesome looks like some kind of Alien-shark/Orca.

But despite that, it's made clear that he has bones.

Awesome has bones, while Wander doesn't.

That's why it's difficult for him to imitate him; one is an invertebrate, and the other isn't.

But anyway, let's get to my headcanon.

I like to think that Wander's ENTIRE body has NO bones, maybe one or two to help him stand, but he has almost no bones at all.

And now here's the thing.

Since he has no bones, his body would be incredibly flexible.

If there had been a third season, I would have loved to see someone commenting on Wander's flexibility, or Wander himself putting his leg in an IMPOSSIBLE position and then saying something like, "That's just my body!"

I don't know, just a little headcanon of mine.

[destinysalt]

Before I speak, let me say this.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

And secondly.

Since I just received the sequel to "Long Live the Pumpkin Queen" as a gift for the holidays, I'm going to give my personal opinion about this book.

(SPOILERS OF THE BOOK⚠️)

1- The length of the chapters.

The chapter length is good at the beginning. If you're someone who reads at night before going to bed, it might seem long, but as you progress through the book, you'll start to miss the previous length of the books, since some chapters are over 20 pages long.

2- Sally.

Sally is the protagonist of this book, and I honestly think she's quite good.

Despite the problems she faces throughout the book, she never changes her goal.

She has her doubts, of course, but those doubts fade away quickly, which I really like about her character.

One part I like is when he finally arrives on Earth and meets the (now deceased) Queen of England.

He understands that his conflict isn't unique to her and that other queens have it too, although that's also contradictory since in the movie Jack sings a song about how heavy the crown is for him and how he wanted to abdicate.

But even so, his character is good.

3-Tense moments.

When facing Sandman You can feel the anxiety of what will happen, especially when Sandman returns from the waters, making you believe they failed to put him to sleep.

4-Sally's parents.

Remove them from the book.

Putting aside my genuine hatred for them, I can understand their conflict; they finally have their daughter back and are afraid something bad might happen to her again, but even so, I didn't like them.

5-The Romance

Contrary to what many people think, I really enjoyed Jack and Sally's interactions.

You can see that they genuinely care about each other, and in fact, when Sally returns to Halloweentown, we see her genuinely happy to find the citizens asleep.

But that joy fades when she finds the one person she didn't want to see asleep: Jack.

Even when she's conflicted about whether to stay in Dreamtown or try to defeat Sandman, what really hits her hard is thinking about her life as the princess of this place, because the idea of ​​her falling in love with someone else—someone other than Jack—disturbs her.

I really like their interactions.

They're like my parents, and anyone who says they don't like romance will have to reconsider buying it because it has a lot, and I mean A LOT, of romance.

6-The jokes.

The book generally has hardly any jokes; it's more romance, suspense, etc.

But my favorite parts were definitely:

When they ask Jack if they can eat the sleeping Sandman and he replies, "No, we're not going to eat him. Maybe he'd taste bad."

And when Sally's parents say, "The Cliff sounds good," when they're discussing a punishment for the Sandman.

7-The Ending.

I quite liked the ending, the final surprise that Sandman was never evil, Jack still being angry with Dr. Finklestein even after he'd been punished, and Sally's conclusion.

One thing I didn't mention was Ruby Valentino, the Valentine's Day Queen. Reading her chapter brought me down to earth, where I thought she and Jack would be best friends, since it seemed he was only interested in his relationship with Sally.

But I'm still stuck on that headcanon.

Anyway, do I recommend it? Yes, despite its flaws, plot holes, too much romance, etc., it's entertaining if y like The Nightmare Before Christmas and were left wanting more after seeing the movie.

It's a good book.

Well, I have nothing more to say. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[destinysalt]

I've always found it strange how the citizens of Halloweentown approach their King when they're flattering him.

After the song "This Is Halloween," we see all the citizens of Halloween Town gather around Jack and begin to praise him.

The way they cling to his legs.

And it all gets more awkward when the scene changes to EVERYONE reaching out to Jack, trying to touch him.

One of his fans approaches him, praising him, and Jack clearly looks uncomfortable and even somewhat intimidated by it.

It's not a recurring theme in the film; they only touch on it once, but it's still unsettling that his own citizens overlook the fact that they're harassing and making their King uncomfortable.

Things calm down for the rest of the movie, books, games, etc., and this isn't mentioned again, but my question is, how many years did Jack have to endure this?

In the book *Long Live the Pumpkin Queen* (which I have a few opinions about after officially reading the physical copy), it says that Sally's parents have ruled DreamTown for a hundred years.

If we consider that the leaders of each holiday could easily become immortal along with their people, how many years did Jack suffer this harassment? He himself states that it was ALL the same,The applause, the scares, the praise, and...his people are all the same.

The more I dwell on this, the more uncomfortable it becomes because I end up delving deeper into it.

And it's even sad to know that they'll most likely do NOTHING with this or with the material potential they have to give Jack's character more depth.

But anyway, Jack should get a restraining order against his citizens.

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I was watching The Nightmares Before Christmas for the thousandth time this year and then I started thinking about the superficial similarities between Jessica Rabbit & Roger Rabbit and the relationship between Jack and Sally.

First, let's define the type of trope that Jessica and Roger Rabbit's relationship uses.

(Just to clarify, I haven't seen the movie, so I might be wrong, or I might not. Please correct me if you can.)

Their trope is based on one of them seeming unattainable, with high status, superior intelligence, or in this case, beauty.

And the other barely stands out in any of those areas, and no one would ever dream of seeing them together.

But they end up as a couple.

This would happen with Jack and Sally. We'll see it from the perspective of an ordinary citizen of Halloweentown.

Jack is recognized throughout the entire town, not only for his work with Halloween but also for being royalty.

He's a king, which canonically has its appeal.

He's intelligent, capable of solving equations and usually using the scientific method.

He's sociable, elegant, charismatic, and a gentleman.

Because of all these characteristics and more, Jack has plenty of potential partners to choose from due to his immense number of fans.

And then there's Sally.

In the film, she isn't particularly known for her wealth or intelligence.

She has knowledge of medicine and sewing, but that's about it.

Of course, the film mentions that she's pretty (at least to Oogie), but that's where her outstanding qualities end.

Given the clear difference in status, wealth, social standing, beauty, intelligence, etc., one wouldn't think of them as a couple.

But surprisingly, they end up together.

I want to clarify that I don't mean to denigrate Sally's character, only that in the film she seems more like an ordinary citizen without much distinction, so her chances with the King, from the perspective of others, would be slim.

But I repeat, they even get married and start a family.

That's why the comparison to Jessica Rabbit and Roger Rabbit.

Even though these are just random thoughts that come to mind, I find this dynamic in their relationship curious, something I've hardly seen explored.

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We all hate Carl, right?

Well, this post will be 100% me complaining about this episode and trashing Venomous for the eighth time.

At first, K.O. wants to believe his father got rid of Shadowy Figure, but he still has doubts. That's normal; compared to other times, we can see that Venomous is a bad man and not to be trusted. But he seemed to "change" for K.O., so wouldn't it be wrong to try to trust him?

This hurts so much💔

I can't believe I agree with this guy for the first time, but he's definitely right.

HOW FREAKY WEIRDO

Top ten proofs that Mr. Gar is a MUCH BETTER K.O. father than Venomous

K.O. MY BOY, DON'T GO NEAR THAT THING

I HATE THAT DISGUSTING WEIRDO'S GRIM SMILE

"Cinematic Parallelism" Ahh scene

DAMN LIAR, WHEN HE DRINK HIS WEIRD POTIONS ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS WAS BECOMING A COMPLETE IDIOT

I hate it

Realization.

Joking aside, we can see that K.O. cared at least A LITTLE about Venomous's opinion. We can even see the extent of this snake's manipulation and oppression of his son, to the point where he almost freed T.K.O.

My heart aches

NO ONE WILL DENY THAT THIS IS A MANIPULATION TECHNIQUE

My baby trying to open up emotionally only to get kicked 💔

THIS SCENE HURT ME THE MOST IN THE EPISODE. I SAW MYSELF IN IT. I HATE HIM. DUDE, YOU FORCED HIM. HE TRUSTED YOU, AND ALL YOU CARED ABOUT WAS POWER. I'M GOING TO KILL HIM. 💔

I won't even talk about the rest of the episode, Carl killed me.

This was a before and after for me, how I hate Venomous

If I were offered the chance to see Carl AGAIN or eat glass, I'd be spitting blood right now.

[destinysalt]

This might be the sixth or seventh time I've complained about Venomous, or at least added more drama to his relationship with K.O., but the truth is, THERE'S A LOT TO LOOK AT.

Does anyone here know Helluva Boss? Okay, for those who don't, in short, it's a series about demons that takes place in Hell and focuses on little devils who go to Earth to kill people.

(That plot lasts for about five episodes, but we're not talking about that.)

Well, for those who have already seen the second season, there is a song called "I Will Be Okay" which portrays the anguish of a son with his absent father

Well, I feel that some parts of the song fit QUITE WELL the context in which K.O. could be AFTER all the events that happened with Shadowy Figure and T.K.O.

Example of the lyrics:

"How could you lie to my face, and did our time mean nothing to you? Were you bluffing all along That you would be there to see yourself forgiven by me? If you thought that I'd take it, you were wrong Oh, you were wrong"

"And I'll know that I was right to doubt you I'll grow without you, and you'll only know my name"

"I'll just get older, and you'll only know my name"

The lyrics are fairly self-explanatory, but for those who didn't understand, I'll explain.

I touched on this topic briefly in other posts, but here I'll delve deeper.

After all the traumatic events caused by Venomous, K.O. would feel quite hurt, believing that all the weekends he spent with his father weren't worth it or that he meant nothing to him.

He also wouldn't forgive him easily, since even when Venomous apologized, the wound would still be fresh and painful, so forgiveness is out of the question for now.

Besides, K.O. isn't even sure he wants to be with Venomous again, or that Venomous wants him in his life.

Therefore, if Venomous doesn't apologize and they remain on bad terms, they'll only know of each other's existence through their fights or news reports.

So much so that both will change, for better or for worse, but time will pass, take its toll, and the only thing Venomous will recognize about his son will be his name.

But anyway, it's just me and my thing of wanting to link my favorite series together.

(I LOVE THESE TWO IMAGES in case anyone hasn't noticed)

[destinysalt]

I'm here again to complain about Venomous, seriously, I never get tired of insulting this man.

It hurts me how they keep emphasizing, over and over again, that K.O. doesn't have a father.

Examples: The "Stakeout" episode and the "I'm Dendy" episode.

Even worse, when K.O.'s real father is revealed, he turns out to be a damn psychopath who has been tormenting him from the beginning.

It hurts to see how, in the episode "My Dad Can Beat Your Dad," Carol tells K.O. that his father was a great man, a great hero, and that she would have loved him very much.

On top of that, he ends up with a venomous snake that traumatizes him horribly, to the point where he simply decides to flee home in the middle of the night, knowing it could be dangerous because Venomous had disappointed him again.

Venomous is a BAD MAN, a BAD PARTNER, and a BAD FATHER. My baby K.O. didn't deserve ANY of that.

[destinysalt]

We're all on good terms, right? Okay...

I HATE HOW VENOMOUS TALKS TO K.O.

I don't know if my general hatred for him influences this opinion, but I HATE the way he talks to his son.

Both Shadowy Figure and Venomous have that sing-song/mocking tone they use when speaking to K.O., like they're talking to a small child or a stray puppy they're trying to take in.

I hate that tone of voice, especially in the episode "The K.O. Trap."

Or even more so in the "Big Reveal" episode

"Oh, little K.O-" SHUT UP

It makes me so angry how, after K.O. went through a difficult time, both Shadowy Figure and Venomous use THAT specific tone to mock him.

Sometimes I just think I can't hate Venomous any more, and then I find another reason to hate him.

Man, how I hate that horrible snake.

[destinysalt]

You know, I've always been curious about the fact that we weren't shown how K.O. and Professor Venomous ended up.

Because, you have to consider Venomous's actions and know how to balance them.

1-Harassment.

Canonically, Venomous has been stalking K.O. from the shadows, not as Venomous, but as Shadowy Figure.

And before anyone says that Venomous and Shadowy Figure are NOT the same person, let me clarify something.

In the episode "T.K.O.," Shadowy Figure tells K.O. that T.K.O. is just a collection of negative emotions he's been bottling up over the years.

This is further reinforced in the episode "Let's Go to Shadowy"(My mistake, it was actually the episode "Let's have a Stakeout")and the penultimate episode, where K.O. literally tells T.K.O.: "You are me, and I am you." With this clarified, we can say that ALL of Venomous's actions while transformed into his turbo version are UNJUSTIFIED.

His hunger for power and his insecurities explain them, but they don't justify them.

Furthermore, any mistake or bad action that Shadowy Figure commits, Professor Venomous has to take responsibility for it because, despite not being in his right mind, it harms him.

2-Manipulation.

In the episode "K.O. vs. Fink," we see how Shadowy Figure manipulates K.O. from the shadows, giving him advice he shouldn't heed.

The same thing happens to T.K.O. at the end of the series, as he is merely used by Shadowy Venomous to gain power.

3-LITERALLY KILLING HIS FRIENDS IN FRONT OF HIM.

This definitely doesn't need explaining because we can all easily agree that Venomous messed up there.

We're not asking him to be gentle with K.O., BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE, he's your SON, and the first thing you do is kill his friends in front of him.

Even if he didn't know K.O. was his son, it's still incredibly HORRIFYING to traumatize a child to that degree.

4-The way they interacted.

This is more understandable than a mistake, since Venomous is a villain and OBVIOUSLY he was going to ask K.O. about things like enemies, etc.

But it definitely would have been much better if he had tried to interact more healthily with his child.

5-Not keeping his promises.

This can also be understood, since it wasn't shown how Venomous tried to get rid of Shadowy.

But just in case, I'll give it half a point.

6-CARL

This entire damn episode is what's wrong with Venomous/Shadow Figure.

And the ending, where he literally offers to leave for trying to express himself and open up emotionally.

I won't say anything more about this episode; it's everything that's wrong with Venomous.

7-The entire Shadowy Venomous and T.K.O. arc

If Carl is the most heartbreaking episode of the entire series, then I don't know what the T.K.O. and Shadowy Venomous arc is. Those episodes are basically T.K.O. groveling for crumbs of Professor Venomous's affection.

I won't say anything about this arc either; I've had enough with Carl.

8-Conclusion

After analyzing all of this, we can agree that Venomous made a HUGE mistake with K.O. Manipulation, Harassment, False Promises, Deceit, Abandonment. K.O. HAS EVERY RIGHT TO GET RID OF VENOMOUS.

And anyone would tell you that those two should have ended things horribly, never speaking to each other again.

Oh well, unless...

In the last episode, titled "Thank You for Watching This Show," for a few seconds, while the weddings of different characters are being shown, you can see Venomous and Boxman getting married.

And K.O. is there.

In contrast, the other weddings were of people K.O. considered friends or even family.

And it would be downright OUTRAGEOUS of Venomous to invite K.O. to his wedding after all the trauma he caused him.

Now, here's the thing.

Not only do we see Venomous attacking the plaza in a pleasant manner, without any family drama between him and K.O. but we also see Venomous apologizing to Boxman for what happened with Shadowy Venomous, and from a few scenes, we can assume he did the same with Fink.

Combining all of this and following the threads that connect them, there's a possibility that Venomous apologized to K.O. and that they parted on decent terms—not necessarily good, but on terms where they weren't as angry anymore.

9- How did K.O. feel about it?

Possibly VERY hurt and angry, even to the point of hating him.

But before anyone tells me I'm taking the character out of context, let me remind you of the scene in "The K.O. Trap" where K.O. says he HATES Professor Venomous.

But considering the possibility that Venomous DID properly apologize to K.O., we can say that despite everything, K.O. was able to forgive him.

Obviously, he took his time to process things, clear his mind, and make a decision.

But one thing is clear: THEY APART ON GOOD TERMS.

(Or at least that's what I want to believe.)

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I was watching OK KO! Let's Be Heroes on a website and I realized they portrayed Venomous in a REALLY BAD light.

Look, the episode "The K.O Trap" happens in season three, episode seven

And the big reveal happens three episodes later.

I can understand now why there are so many stories of Venomous being such a bad father to K.O.

(Fun fact: the episode "Let's go for Shadowy" also takes place three episodes after "The Big Reveal," a double blow for Venomous)

[destinysalt]

Was K.O. an accident?

Okay, before you question me, here's my evidence to support this belief.

In episode 19 of the first season, where Professor Venomous makes his first physical appearance, when K.O.'s mustache falls off, Venomous immediately recognizes him.

But how could this be possible? Well, Boxman could have mentioned them and even given physical descriptions of them, but even so, Professor Venomous had NEVER seen any of the three of them in his life and didn't even know them personally.

Or well, except for one.

If we go to the original English dub, we can see that Venomous says the following: "Wait, isn't that—?" Before being abruptly cut off by Boxman mentioning K.O.

This was CLEARLY not a coincidence.

Venomous DID recognize K.O. as his son, but how?

Well, firstly, Venomous was CLEARLY only referring to one person, and that person was his son.

But here's the question: How did he recognize him? We all know how babies are made: sex, penetration, and if you don't want kids, use a condom.

Here's the thing: how was K.O. made? Clearly, Carol and Venomous had to be intimate at some point during their time as heroes of P.O.I.N.T. to have K.O.

But as we see, they weren't even married, so I highly doubt they wanted children during that time before marriage.

So, when they had sex, they must have used some kind of condom to prevent this.

But here's the thing: condoms are NOT 100% effective.

Comparing perfect use and typical use, there's a clear percentage difference.

With perfect use, there's a 98% chance of NOT getting pregnant.

But with normal use, this would change to 85%.

Considering this, and given their apparent ages, Carol and Venomous were most likely in their twenties when they were heroes, and assuming K.O. is around ten or eleven, they would be around thirty or thirty-one.

One thing is clear: they most likely didn't want children at that time, so they must have opted to use a condom.

But we have to keep in mind that they must have known that condoms wouldn't be 100% effective.

Adding to all this the fact that Carol possibly didn't even know she was pregnant makes me think that K.O. wasn't part of either of their plans.

When Venomous abandoned Carol and his entire past life as Laserblast, he must have at least considered for a few seconds that maybe Carol was pregnant.

Again, in typical use, there's an 85% success rate, so it's much easier to trust than to overthink. I still don't know how Venomous recognized K.O. or if he even knew Carol was pregnant.

But with all this said, it's very possible that K.O. wasn't planned.

[destinysalt]

I was rewatching OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes! and I just got to the episode with "K.O.'s Video Channel"

And I found it curious that Professor Venomous was in his top ten power cards, considering that he had encountered him in the episode "T.K.O" (obviously without knowing it).

I think after the cartoon ends, K.O. won't like that card as much anymore