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gayvinz-deactivated20151221

Let me explain to you something.

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lmao oh my god is any of this actually serious

this is basically one long tl;dr that means “yeah, ray said an awful, gross, dehumanizing slur that he knows is offensive, and refuses to apologize for, and laughs at people getting upset over according to his ask.fm response to someone asking about it, but STOP ATTACKING HIM!!! THE REAL VICTIM IS RAY!! NOT THE TRANS PEOPLE WHO ARE HURT BY THIS!! THE MAN WHO HAS A LARGE PLATFORM TO HURT PEOPLE AND THE POWER TO REACH MORE PEOPLE WITH THIS BULLSHIT IS THE REAL VICTIM IN ALL OF THIS!”

look, i don’t know where you’re at in this fandom, but the people i follow here are all calling all of this shit out all the time. apparently you don’t follow the same people, because if you did, you wouldn’t propose the ridiculous strawman situation that you are where everyone is somehow “out to get” ray and doesn’t care about anyone else pulling bullshit. the only reason ray gets the most shit is because he’s the one that pulls shit the most. no one in this company is perfect, but no one in this company does this shit with this much frequency, either.

the idea that ray “didn’t know” that word is harmful is laughable at best, but even if that was true and he realized it after, his response to the ask.fm question should have been “wow, i’m sorry, i didn’t realize,” instead of laughing it off like he really did.

"i’ve yet to see someone calmly explain to him why that’s bad." one, considering you also think no one else calls rt out on their shit as a whole, i’m disinclined to agree with your judgement, because you seem to be willfully blind to when this all goes on, but rest assured that people have been calling him out, politely or otherwise, since last fucking year about this kind of stuff. people have been explaining to him for a long time - he just hasn’t listened, and straight-up refuses to.

now, see, the apologism in your post is annoying enough, and exactly what this fandom is talking about when we say that ray and his fans are increasingly shitty, but what really annoys me the most about this is your insistence that the onus is on the people actually hurt by this to explain why they’re hurt instead of on him to stop. your argument relies on complete ignorance of anything that’s actually going on, as well as a decent amount of tone-policing and derailment. if you’re really so attuned to the rt fandom as you think you are, you’d have read pieces on tone policing, but since you haven’t, let me break it down for you -

Asking marginalized groups to be kind and polite to people who throw slurs at them does absolutely nothing. For one, it’s incredibly hard to “be kind” to people who are throwing around jokes at the expense of your existence, because it’s your, you know, actual life and lived experiences that you can’t just separate yourself from. And two, oftentimes people don’t want to change, and no amount of politeness is going to get them to change - these attitudes are deeply internalized, and it takes more than a “please stop” to get people to recognize why what they’re doing is wrong. (Funnily enough, the RT fandom - that I know, anyway, I don’t know what corners you’re in, but it’s probably around Apologism Junction and Make Excuses Alley - has made post after post after post after post about this, but apparently this is all Greek to you.)

But mostly, here’s the thing - marginalized people shouldn’t have to be nice to get respect and to get people to stop perpetuating awful shit. Slurs are wrong and degrading no matter how “nice” someone is in asking for them to stop. People getting - rightfully - angry and emotional about someone who refuses to stop calling them names and has refused for a while, who knows exactly what he’s doing and keeps doing it, is not reason to dismiss their argument. Saying “BUT YOU’RE BEING MEEEAAAAN TO ME!” is not only fallacious as an argument, it’s ignoring the context of everything you’re arguing. These people have every right to be angry, and you expecting them to go up to someone who takes every chance to verbally abuse them and treat him with kid gloves, as if he’s not a grown-ass man who can handle this shit, is disgusting. It’s like the analogy of stepping on someone’s foot - it doesn’t matter if you step on someone’s foot accidentally or on purpose, it doesn’t matter if they’re angry at you for doing it; either way, it’s on you to stop stepping on their foot, not on them to politely explain to you why foot-stepping is harmful.

What you’re doing when you’re demanding people take a specific tone is controlling. You’re trying to set the boundaries and standards that the argument will take, you’re trying to control the information and how it’s spread, and you’re basically saying “I’m perfectly capable of treating you as a human being, and I fully recognize how much you’re hurting, but I’m going to hurt you even more because I don’t like your tone.” Right away, you’re demanding (from a position of privilege, because these things don’t affect you, and thus you can be “calm” about it) that everyone give you the information in the most palatable way to you, instead of hearing the raw truth from them. Not only that, but you’re also setting yourself up as the arbiter of what “nice” entails. You’re setting yourself up in such a way that it’s easy for you to move the goalposts of the argument as you see fit instead of coming to these people with an open mind, which tells me that you don’t actually care about the issue at hand or understand the mechanics and details of oppression and privilege - you want to come to the conclusion you already decided, pre-argument, to support, which is ignoring everyone’s actual lived experience so you can defend your favey-baby.

There is no way you can defend him from this kind of shit. It’s been going on for a long time now, and the fact that you think “he still somehow doesn’t know what a slur is, despite choosing to say them over and over, and that zero people have tried to explain it to him in this timeframe, even though 1) they have and 2) as cited above multiple times, tone-policing is bullshit” is a more logical answer to what’s happening than anything else, that tells me yet again that your judgement is all about protecting some guy who occasionally makes you laugh in a video instead of the people who are actually hurt by a dude spreading these messages around on platforms where anywhere from 347,000 followers to 3 million subscribers can hear them.

If you can come back to me with an argument that doesn’t tone police and that I can’t google an easy rebuttal to in five minutes that also doesn’t pay the .01 seconds of lipservice to “he said something bad, OKAY, I CONCEDE, BUUUUUUUUT,” I’d love to hear it. But I probably won’t, because you’ll either ignore every link, or take judgement with my ~tone~ and prove my point further.

#long post #op is a shitstain and the rebuttal is better

castielisabee-blog

Guys, I desperately need your help. My 12 year old terrier was fed rat poisoning by someone and is dying.

They gave her a lot of meds at the vet, but that only gives her a survival rate of 50%. If she receives a blood transfusion, it will go up to 90% survival. Please, we need your help. She is my baby, if I didn’t have her to watch supernatural with anymore Id be heartbroken.

Even if you can’t donate, please reblog/share. I need my baby to be okay. I don’t want the asshole who did this to come out victorious.

gofundme page: gofundme.com/h2dom8

charaznable

the worst thing about brokeback mountain is how they turned it into a joke here was a high profile drama with a-list actors and lgbt protagonists and then everybody just wrote it off and labeled it as “that gay cowboy movie” when they aren’t even gay cowboys they’re bisexual shepherds this is why we can’t have nice things

i visited an old forum i used to go on years ago - it was a forum for writers and it was my main website before tumblr. it used to be really awesome, but now i go on and see people starting threads like "gays ruined the rainbow!" what the fuck.

And as a follow up, here's a picture with the tags. Message me if you want to buy!

#black milk #black milk clothing #bmxs

Hey sharkies! I have two brand new, never-worn red tartan skater skirts I don't want any more and am trying to sell, both size XS. The tags are still inside, feel free to message me if you want them!

#black milk #black milk clothing #bmxs

your sidebar says social justice yet you're.... a shitty person....

who has nothing based in reality whatsoever to offer....

bye...

#jfc

misandry-mermaid

(#rape tw) men are ridiculous, oh my god. "FEMINISTS CONTRIBUTE TO MALE RAPE VICTIMS" except... how?? we're the ones saying THIS IS RAPE when MRAs are....???? i just...

¯\_(oo)_/¯

saotome-lex-deactivated20141104

Look guys, I magically became a man by disagreeing with a feminist.

detroitriviera

NOT AAAALLLL MEN

lmao are you goddamn serious

#lok at me being so BRAVE by responding to this with the weakest sauce possible #yet not showing any statistics for my stupid claim #lmao god anti-fems are the worst

can we talk about how outrageous black milk clothing is? i mean, their product is based in two things: the appeal of exclusivity/collecting and 'nerdy girl love,' but both are bullshit

they've given non-answers to questions of why their model base isn't diverse, plus the recent facebook fiasco of posting anti-"ugly" nerd girl images, so it seems like their "hot little boss" girl love spiel only means "so long as those girls fit our appropriate standards for attractiveness"

and the exclusivity/collecting thing is basically how they get away with charging ludicrous sums of money for their clothes, and how they get people to keep spending money, because you want a COLLECTION to brag about

not to mention their community is a seriously gross place - any sign of criticism and their fans descend on you angrily, and all the black milk licensed groups require you to do ridiculous things to join them (change your profile picture to you wearing a piece, let us see your friends list, give us access to your page/personal info!) and are policed by mods who seem to get off on power rather than fairness

I don't normally post stuff like this in the tags, but this is an exception -

I'm honestly dumbfounded, enraged and really, really disappointed in people's reactions to Meg getting hired. Seriously.

She's mentioned in her Leaving Sourcefed FAQ video that RT wanted her before she ever met Gavin. Burnie backed that up with a post on Reddit. I don't care what you think, those are the facts; she didn't get the job because of Gavin.

Honestly, if you dislike Meg, whatever. I don't care (even though I love her), because you can't be expected to like everybody. But I'm astounded that so many of the reasons given for hating her are fueled by misogyny, slut-shaming and jealousy. I don't care if you dislike her for some legitimate reason, but these reasons about how you think she got the job by dating Gavin, or hate that she's comfortable enough in her body to do what she wants with herself and her image, or wish you were dating Gavin yourselves - those are not legitimate reasons. Period.

Assuming she got the job based on who she's dating and not on her skills and experience - that's misogyny. Shaming her for being comfortable in her body - that's slut shaming. (And no, for the love of christ, there is a difference between the male gaze and a woman being comfortable in her body, and conflating the two is some respectability politics bullshit; that's something I could write a fucking essay on, and hand you sources out the ass, but that's another time.) Hating her because you think you should be dating Gavin instead is some serious jealousy.

Next time you want to make a post about your hatred - and want to tag that post, where people who actually like Meg can see it, no less - I want you to stop and fucking think about why you feel the need to tag it, or what the reasons for disliking her truly are. Use those (apparently rusty) critical thinking skills and ask yourself if your reasons are rooted in misogyny, or in shaming her into being the kind of "acceptable" woman you want her to be. Because honestly, all of them that I've seen so far are rooted in misogyny. It's not too much to ask you to analyze yourself and see if there are deeper, more problematic reasons for your dislike. I do it all the time - many people do - and if you're complaining about looking inside yourself to make sure you're not perpetuating gross shit, your priorities are pretty clear.

Just... make sure your reasons are sound, people. Not rooted in gross bullshit. Not too much to fucking ask.

#meg turney #roosterteeth #achievement hunter

sothoros

jouskia-deactivated20150706

is this what responsibilities look like

fidefortitude-deactivated202011

can i just

so bill nighy was wearing a motion capture suit and screaming at johnny depp

and johnny depp had to scream back

without either of them laughing

just imagine that. two grown men, one in pyjamas with balls on his face, and the other in a pirate costume, screaming at the top of their lungs at each other

barricadefairytales

acting

m0uthbr3ather

Have you ever been to earth?

On earth, we use the word “burrito” to describe a tortilla filled with things you eat. Pretty simple stuff, and I’m surprised you at least got that part right. My burrito was, in fact, filled with food. In this, you and I agree and are friends. But this is also where my lifelong hatred begins for you and anyone else whose brain has been repeatedly scrubbed with the same mixture of bleach and Pop Rocks as yours has. Because that should have killed you, but left you around long enough to do what you did to me today. Let me explain:

You’re an idiot.

Let me further explain:

Burritos are eaten from one end to the other. So that means when you assemble a burrito with motherfucking ZONES of ingredients going that direction, you create a disgusting experience for the burrito’s end user. When you make a burrito, you should put the ingredients in layerslengthwise. That way, every bite has AT LEAST A FUCKING CHANCE of getting at least two types of ingredients, and there is little chance of becoming almost hopelessly trapped in a goddamned cilantro cavern.

Have you ever eaten one of the things you make all fucking day? You should try one. They are pretty good WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING YOURSELF THROUGH THE FUCKING EMPIRE OF SOUR CREAM ONLY TO END UP IN LETTUCE COUNTRY.

When you eat a burrito, you don’t stand it up and bite down on it lengthwise like a fucking Rancor. Humans can’t usually dislocate their jaws, and I’m not a fucking pelican. But you must think that’s how it’s done, since that would be THE ONLY FUCKING WAY to take a bite of your crapstrosity and have it taste like a burrito.

And guess what else, player? You probably can’t guess anything, because I’m pretty sure you’re just a mop with a hat on it that fell over and spilled some shit into a tortilla, but just in case, here’s what:

Humans also don’t eat burritos like fucking corn on the cob. Like a fucking typewriter from one end to the other a little at a time and then DING next line. But today I wish I had tried that. Because at least THEN I would be able to eat some rice, then beans, then be all like HEY BEANS I’LL BE RIGHT BACK JUST GOING OVER HERE TO THE GUACAMOLE FOR A SECOND.

Nope.

My experience was more like HEY BEANS IT’S JUST GOING TO BE YOU AND I FOR A MINUTE UNTIL I CAN FUCKING EXCAVATE THE RICE FROM BENEATH YOU BUT BY THEN YOU WILL BE A FADING MEMORY OH HEY I WAS WRONG I’M IN THE FUCKING CHEESEOSPHERE NOW RICE MUST BE NEXT I HOPE IT’S NOT ANOTHER FUCKING SALSA POCKET.

You built this thing like a fucking pack of LifeSavers.

And don’t even fucking think I’m about to open this shit up and re-engineer your nonsense 90 degrees. I ALREADY PUT A HOLE IN IT WITH MY FUCKING MOUTH. YEAH. THAT’S HOW I DISCOVERED YOU FUCKING SUCK AT LOOKING AT THINGS. I AM NOT GOING TO DO FUCKING TORTILLA ORIGAMI TO GET THIS SHIT BACK TOGETHER, ONLY TO END UP WITH A BURRITO THAT’S BEEN SHOT IN THE GUT AND IS BLEEDING YOUR INEPTITUDE.

What’s that? I should ask you to mix it up first next time? IS THIS JAMBA JUICE? I DON’T WANT TO DRINK MY FUCKING BURRITO THROUGH A BENDY STRAW, AND I DON’T WANT A PILE OF BURRITO SOUP IN A FLOUR CAN.

I just want a burrito.

In conclusion:

You’re the worst thing that has ever happened to the universe, you owe everyone everywhere an apology for this burritobomination, and I hope your babies look like monkeys.

UPDATE FOR EVERYONE WHO SAID “JUST EAT IT WITH A FORK”:

A fucking fork?

I DIDN’T ORDER THE FUCKING COBBURRITO SALAD.

If anyone ever handed me a burrito with a fork, THEY WOULD BE WEARING A BRAND NEW BURRITO HAT FROM MY FALL COLLECTION TEN SECONDS LATER.

That’s like buying a car and having them hand you a fucking wrench with the keys. Like YEAH WE KNOW THIS MOTHERFUCKER’S GOING TO EXPLODE AND BE SPREAD ACROSS EIGHT LANES AS SOON AS YOU HIT THE GAS, BUT SHIT, WE GAVE YOU A WRENCH, SO BE COOL.

Jesus already gave me two burrito forks. One at the end of each arm. They’re called fucking HANDS.

A fork. My god. I haven’t cried since I was six, but I’m fucking sobbing now.

People eat burritos with forks?

God is sorry he made us.

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skwinky

I always need this on my blog.

xopachi

I can’t be laughing this hard in the morning.

writhenwud-deactivated20160930

I wasn’t going to reblog because it’s NSFW but when I lost it at ‘Jesus already gave me two burrito forks’ I knew it had to be done.

robotticellis

you know what i really don’t understand? why people get upset when one direction is compared to the beatles.because i really think they’re comparable phenomenon. back in the day, the beatles were essentially a boyband with girls throwing themselves at their feet. they were a pop group. 1D is in the same vein, an insanely popular boyband. the only difference is the beatles did a lot more drugs and this generation likes to romanticize them because they were from a different era and played ‘real music.’

detroitriviera

I have to disagree with this. You're definitely right about the "real music" defense - people seem to think they're better because they don't like One Direction, and that's not true. There's really no such thing as "real music" and people who pull out this argument are usually elitist assholes who like to fancy themselves better than people who like pop.

As for phenomenon, they're similar, but Beatlemania is far and away the bigger of the two. It's really unbelievable to see the Shea Stadium concert even today, or to see them on Ed Sullivan, or watch the opening scene of A Hard Day's Night. Beatlemania still remains the biggest pop spectacle, and even though 1D are comparable in that they also have a shitload of screaming fans, it's not the same.

As for music, the Beatles have stuck around so long because they were, and continue to be, revolutionary from a musical standpoint. They were among the first to use sitars and other Eastern instruments in their music, and they revolutionized what you could do in a music studio, from playing instruments backwards on Tomorrow Never Knows to the way the last note of A Day in the Life rings out forever (the faders were turned up so loud you can hear Ringo's shoe squeak toward the end). They were the creators of what would become the music video, as well. Their music is considered the best because they were the first to introduce new ways of making music and new ways to record in a studio. This was the 60s, mind you, and studios were nothing like they are today.

Musically, 1D can definitely sing, and they have talent, but they're really nothing new or purely spectacular in their songs. Most are pure pop fare - there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I own both of their albums in addition to the Beatles' entire discography - and I could see those songs being sung by anyone else, whereas the Beatles have their own specific sound.

It's not fair of people to act like they're better for liking one over the other, but there's a reason the Beatles are adored and have stuck around 50+ years.