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Severus Snape is a Teacher
BOG MAN
shape language⌠snape shapes.
reminder that when Remus left his office to pursue Sirius and Peter and forgot all about taking the potion that he needed in order to not black out and turn into a murderous rampaging monster, he put his own need to help Sirius over the safety of all the students and staff at Hogwarts. His recklessness with his medication is what earned him being sacked, because werewolves are dangerous without that potion. he's just so lucky he resigned. because if he'd taken his potion, like he was supposed to, the jinx on the position would have found another way to oust him. and given what happened to previous and future DADA professors (quirrel: dead, lockhart: obliviated, barty/moody: dementor'd, umbridge: physically traumatized by centaurs) ... remus got lucky. he should be thanking snape for his life.
I mean, listen. This is what Lupin is like, isn't it? He resigned because he realized how badly he'd fucked up, but that's kind of his MO. He grows up hanging out with James and Sirius and he sees the shit they do but doesn't say anything, and then later regrets it. He endangers people when he runs around with them every full moon, and then later regrets it. And then he forgets his potion as a teacher, endangers a bunch of kids, and -omg!- later regrets it. He doesn't take on the lesson that he makes bad choices and needs to pause and think first. And when you're in your 30s and still repeating this pattern, in which you prioritize what you feel like doing and then feel bad about it after like that somehow makes you a better person, you've shown that you aren't capable of growth. You're not absolved of the consequences of your bad, bad (omg so bad) choices just because you feel guilty. Your guilt can't fix your fuck up.
I am feeling oddly sympathetic to him rn, because he's a monster in a way that can't be fixed, so all he can do is overcompensate with his shame and semi performative guilt. I've lived long enough to know that shame and self loathing aren't gonna make you alter your undesirable behavior, except possible in the sense of making it worse, and yet it's so hard to let go of because other people's judgment is so scary you have to preempt it.
Oh well, one more reason why Snape is so brave. He could have easily wallowed in these feelings at the expense of actually righting his wrong.
Yeah, I guess it's not that I don't have sympathy for him (I mean, disability is complex and I guess I can't take it for granted that it's a given to everyone that there's nuance in literary characters). I think I just feel like whatever understanding I have for how and why his ability to learn and grow is stunted, it becomes a whole different thing when the stakes aren't that he might hurt the feelings of people around him, but that he might actually kill or seriously injur them.
And then I remember how the second Harry challenges him in Deathly Hallows, Lupin throws him against a wall and storms out and never apologizes or even owns how unacceptable that was. The only time he touches on it is when he says that Harry's instincts are almost always right, basically saying that he still thinks Harry was in the wrong in that argument.
I actually viewed it as an apology, with the "almost" part referring to maybe idk refusing to believe there's a traitor in their midst or something.
And yeah I don't do low expectations racism. Lupin is either normal and accountable when the moon's not full, or he isn't - when it comes to people's lives it's not good enough to mean well. Everyone fucks up but maaaan
Well that's the thing, though, isn't it? I think Lupin viewed it as an apology too and it isn't one, not really. It concedes nothing and makes no effort to show sympathy or caring for the injured party. Even when Harry sees Lupin again, when Teddy is born, Harry has a moment of, "oh, I think we're ok then? I think we're pretending it didn't happen or we're just ignoring it?" and he's just relieved there's no tension, because Harry still feels like he was the one who fucked up. But Harry grew up in an abusive household, so of course he'd feel that way when there's tension in a relationship that's important to him.
(I'm confused, though -- what's low expectations racism?)
You make a good point about this apology and yeah I don't like the idea that no one ever told Harry he was absolutely in the right and he was left stuck with the doubt, but it's just beneath my radar, you know, in terms of Lupin's fuck ups, in a sense. Low expectations racism is when you don't expect people to live up to the same standards as everyone else because they're a minority. I'm not sure it applies here because Lupin really does have a condition and I think destigmatizing should be "honestly looking at what the condition means or doesn't mean" and not just "straight up denial about what it means", but it expresses the idea well enough - Lupin isn't exempt from acting like a human when he's human.
Ah, Lupin, so human⌠too human for comfort sometimes. My feelings about him vary often and in ways that are directly related to my feelings about myself. I love that it changes with every reread over the years.
In general, I am hard on Lupin. Lupin has very real flaws that resonate more with me than the flaws of many other characters. The gentle way with which those flaws are treated by Harry and those around him infuriates me, and I tend to grit my teeth whenever heâs on page.
That is, until Deathly Hallows. When heâs at his most vulnerable in front of Harryâwhen he finally drops the act and realizes Harry isnât going to let him retreat into his comforting blanket of self loathing to avoid his responsibilitiesâhe gets a stark reality check and, gloriously, grows a little going forward. Maybe itâs not a lot (I also thought he was attempting an apology with the âalmost always rightâ, but excellent point that itâs not a great one if he is, as heâs still not fully taking accountability) and maybe itâs not for long, but for a moment there he defies the odds, he breaks the pattern, he moves beyond the misery and stagnation that plagues his generation and manages to carve out a new ending for himself. Itâs beautiful in a pathetic way; itâs not all that much and yet, itâs still so momentous.
Idk Lupin is a tricky one for me. Ask me in 6 months and maybe Iâll feel totally differently đ
From a wish fulfillment perspective I think Snape should have lived and Lupin should have stayed dead, but from a story telling perspective, I think Lupin should have stayed alive so that he could finally grow up at long last to take care of his son and possibly Tonks, and so that he could grapple with the reality of the way he had treated Snape. I think this would have made a great little second epilogue. Not a fan of how he "got" to die a hero and never confront anything, you know?
Too Deep for the Healing
I made this post because I witnessed a massively triggering reddit debate, but the mods at r/harrypotter wouldn't post it (I admit, I asked a friend to post it for me). Trigger warning: Sexual Assault.
So, did James commit sexual assault against Snape?
The opener is a trick question, because âsexual assaultâ is technically a term of art in law and in psychology. Wizards arenât governed by any Muggle legal system and the Hogwarts library doesnât carry the DSM. For that matter, wizards are also fictional and written by an author, so whether something falls under a technical definition from an entirely different semantic field (psychology and law⌠vs. YA fantasy literature) is meaningless.
With that said, in all fairness, if you apply the technical criteria, it definitely was sexual assault.Â
From the England and Wales Rape Crisis website:
<<The Sexual Offences Act 2003 says that someone commits sexual assault if all of the following happens:
They intentionally touch another person (James declared intent)
The touching is sexual (if the very act of using Levicorpus on Snape wasnât sexual in itself, the threat that followed surely was)
The other person does not consent to the touching (no brainer)
They do not reasonably believe that the other person consents (no brainer and kind of the point)
The touching can be with any part of the body or with anything else (letâs say that if the British legislator had had the foresight to include wizards, they would have added âwandâ)>>
Also from that website:
<<There are many other âtacticsâ that someone might use to sexually assault someone. For example:
bullying>>
So there you are.
Sure, some people view this as âpantsing,â a cutesy way to refer to the (perplexing) act of surprisingly taking off a personâs pants. When I (F) was about 8, a classmate (M) opened the door to my bathroom stall in front of other kids to poke fun at me, and I gotta say it never registered and still doesnât register as a sexual assault because we were literal children. Shitty, it might have been, but⌠meh. James wasnât 8, or 10. I just canât imagine anyone old enough to shave, who doesnât have serious developmental issues, not understanding that genitals arenât just âfunnyâ. But if one insists on classifying it as âpantsing,â they should refer to the Wikipedia entry, which speaks of a 5-second long process, not the culmination* of a protracted affair. Also from Wikipedia: âThe United States legal system has prosecuted it as a form of sexual harassment of children.â
*I hope it was the culmination: we donât see if it went that far so we obviously canât know if it might have gone even further.
So if one were to be fair while applying strict technical terms to Jamesâs action (assuming he went through with it), one would have to cede the point. The term âsexual assaultâ might be emotionally charged, but going by objective definitions, it applies.
But of course itâs the emotional charge that matters here, because again, ITâS A BOOK. So I suppose thereâs no escaping asking ourselves if James went through with his threat*. Itâs more likely than not, since the scene could have easily ended with James being interrupted, or even saying âjust kidding, I donât want to make everyone cry, his face is ugly enough.â His furious expression and the fade-to-black suggest that he did. Also, to feature nudity in a YA novel (in which James is, after all, intended as a positive character) would have been literally impossible. The implication is heavy enough. And honestly, I really would like to know who watches a sitcom where the characters start kissing, discuss having sex, and get as naked as the censors would allow before the scene is cut⌠and needs help figuring out whatâs going on here. For James to catch himself on time and not follow through might have been a very compelling way to start his redemption arc, but as we know, that took another year+.
*If he didnât, itâs mere sexual harassment. But then, to turn the James defendersâ argument against them⌠itâs one memory out of his entire life. Whoâs to say he wasnât even worse on other occasions? After all, the title âSnapeâs Worst Memoryâ is, in retrospect, about Lily - not the bullying, which was very clearly business as usual.
If Snape had been a girl, it would have been a no brainer. If James had been Snapeâs victim, letâs be real, it would have been a no brainer too.
We know what happened had because what happened traumatized Snape⌠and Harry. Immediately after he saw it, Harry wondered if his dad might have somehow forced his mom to marry him. In HBP he is still unable to tell Ron and Hermione what he had seen in the Pensieve, and doesnât even say anything when he remembers Snape had called Lily a mudblood. Even in DH, two years after he had seen the memory, he looks away rather than watch the scene unfold again (and the phrasing - âBut Harry kept his distance this time, because he knew what happened after James had hoisted Severus into the air and taunted him; he knew what had been done and saidâ - is highly suggestive). Also, since it's a book, here's the traditional end-of-book canonical voice of the author explaining to us how we ought to feel:
âI trust Severus Snape,â said Dumbledore simply. âBut I forgot â another old manâs mistake â that some wounds run too deep for the healing. I thought Professor Snape could overcome his feelings about your father â I was wrong.â
This is the same Dumbledore who had, a book earlier, expected Snape and Sirius to play nice, the same Dumbledore who can criticize a man who had just expired in front of his grieving godson, so if he says Snape could not overcome his feelings about James, he probably had good reason to.
We know Snape only bothered to hide very few memories in the Pensieve, presumably the highly volatile and top-secret ones, during the occlumency lessons. We know Snape was surprisingly okay with Harry infiltrating his embarrassing childhood memories, and it was only Harry viewing SWM that drove him over the edge, up to and including defying Dumbledore. We know that it was Harryâs attempt at Levicorpus that made Snape lose it during the HBP confrontation (and not Sectumsempra or even Crucio). In short, we know heâs traumatized. To insist that heâs not legitimately traumatized, but just bitter and petty about getting one-upped and defeated by James or whatever, is not only cruel but also exactly how people react to victims in real life. Minimization, victim-blaming, and denial. How damaging, to be a victim and see this shit, honestly.
Sure, you can interpret Snape as petty and bitter, and you would be right. But you gotta admit the hatred for James rivals all else. Easy - James got Lily*. Itâs not Snapeâs (valid) trauma, itâs his (incelly, entitled, invalid) jealousy. Except that Snape could have very easily attempted to use a love potion on Lily himself, or taken some measure - any measure - to alleviate his jealousy. And when others accuse him of jealousy, itâs never about Lily or romantic success in general - itâs about Jamesâs Quidditch skills. JKR, however, supplements:
âJames always suspected Snape harboured deeper feelings for Lily, which was a factor in James' behaviour to Snape."
Assuming she doesnât mean âJames thought Snape was morally in the wrong for having feelings for Lily,â the more viable interpretation was âJames did not appreciate someone else having feelings for Lily.â
*Never mind that James got Lily long after Snapeâs supposedly irrational hatred for James reared its head, so.
James intends the removal of Snape's underpants as an escalation of the verbal and physical violence. What's left, after that? Where do you escalate to, from physical violence? It's a reaction to being romantically rebuffed, and compared (unfavorably) to Snape. Jealousy drove James's behavior, not Snape's behavior, and accusing an assault victim of only acting this way because he's jealous of his assailant is... a choice. Especially when the assailant is dead, and so is the object of jealousy, and there's literally nothing and no one left to be jealous of anymore.
Jealousy explains few to none of Snapeâs actions, and rather a lot of what James got up to.
Do we need to discuss what the Death Eaters did to the poor Muggle woman at the Quidditch World Cup? That Draco wasn't trying to be helpful in warning Hermione to run away, but rather was attempting to belittle her by alluding to her sexuality? Do we need to, really? Do we need to recall that Voldemort himself described the Death Eaters' behavior (which wasn't as atrocious as James's) as "Muggle Torture"?
How much do we need to be spoon-fed? âSexual assaultâ is a charged term? Good. That scene is meant to be appalling. Thereâs a reason itâs one of the most detailed, graphic and harrowing scenes. Itâs important for understanding these characters.
If JKR had wanted to write James as noble, if arrogant, and Snape as jealous and full of unjustified hatred toward James, she could have. Itâs Snapeâs hatred toward poor Harry thatâs invalid, as the text comments on.
If one feels that to call someone a âsexual assaulterâ is to caricaturize them or unfairly malign them when theyâre actually more nuanced and complex than that, I can only reply that they can take it up with the author who had made her character that way. If we want to believe a sexual assaulter can grow, change and atone, good on us for our optimism and compassion, although I hope we reserve some for the victims. If we want to believe James, specifically, did - itâs not my cup of tea, but knock yourselves out. But not calling a spade a spade is not the solution and is not helpful.
One last point. Iâve seen it argued that calling James a sex offender is somehow harmful to ârealâ victims, because it trivializes ârealâ sexual violence. Funny, that. Funny that feminists fought with tooth and nail for less exacting interpretations that would protect as many people as possible, and then here we are, resorting to (incorrect) technical classifications to avoid calling someone a sex offender, when being a sex offender is nearly his entire claim to fame. Funny, that suddenly gatekeeping is okay and even beneficial. Funny that we think that if we salvage someone from being considered a sex offender by the strictest definitions, it makes his actions remotely okay. Funny that we need to be reminded again, in 2022, that sexual violence is sometimes about sex, but always about power. That men can be and often are victim, That many people, including many âreal victimsâ (in the sense that they are not fictional and are also victims) take great comfort in the representation of a believable survivor who is nevertheless a hero (and a cautionary tale).
This argument is ridiculous and borders on immoral. No one in their right mind would call Harryâs friends sex offenders as they exposed his form shamelessly while under the effect of Polyjuice Potion. That indeed would be trivializing, so no one does it. Itâs especially ridiculous for a fandom that is so adept at understanding parallels and allusions to real life when theyâre much less fitting, but instructive all the same, such as house-elf <> slave, lychanthropy <> other stigmatized conditions, and Death Eaters <> Nazis and other hate groups. What's trivializing is the idea that one can atone for and move on from the sexual assault they committed by being nice to some other people. What's trivializing is to maintain that there's a proper way to be a victim, complete with a timeline for healing (and that if you don't comply, you're probably not even a victim). For what itâs worth (and it should not be worth anything), I personally have all the authority and moral high ground I need to make this point.
Hate Snape all you want. Heâs a bastard. Criticize his coping mechanisms, by all means. Theyâre inadequate and toxic - but letâs not tell ourselves he has no need for them. Love James if it makes you happy. Many beloved people are sex offenders and their unlovable victims are⌠just that, and pretending this isnât so is helping no one.
Dude I concur whole heartedly. With every single word you've written. I have been advocating this for so long that it has started to become ridiculous. So glad to see that there is someone else who feels the same way.
The message is hardly original, I agree. But it just means many of us out there understand this... I wasn't going for originality, either. Was just triggered out of my mind. Fwiw I don't think it's weird or wrong to just not think of the media you consume that way and to go live your life. Thanks for being here :)
snape clutching lilyâs letter in grimmauld place isnât supposed to be a sweet moment where youâre overwhelmed by the romance of it all, itâs supposed to be an ugly moment in which a grief stricken man tried to find comfort in the words of a friend who died decades ago. itâs supposed highlight snapeâs isolation, how being a spy cut him off from other people and now he killed his last friend and was truly alone.
It also isnât supposed to be an indication that heâs a creepy stalker. Itâs an indication that heâs entirely alone, completely terrified, being attacked from all ends, and had no one to talk to or confide in. He was entirely lonely and afraid, and Lily was the only thing keeping him going. He was desperate for a reason to not only keep going with his mission, but to keep himself alive, need that be from the Death Eaters, the good side, or his own hand.Â
It was supposed to break your heart. Here is a man with nothing to live for who continues to live.
He hated bullies.
One day he will be able to pay them all back.
Whatever it takes.
Decision
Drawn in 2023
âFriendly Competitionâ does not equal âWarfareâ, Severus.
Not shown: Minerva, face first in the snow after being taken out by the Sniper Rifle equivalent of a snowball.
Challenge the Spy they said, itâll be fun, they said
thinking about how in 'snape's worst memory' when james potter tells sirius black he knows how to rid him of his current boredom, indicating severus snape, the book literally describes sirius going very still, like a dog who had just spotted a rabbit.
you lot are convinced that it was just a 'rivalry' right, but if this were to be a rivarly, snape would just be another dog. dogs fighting. not the literal PREY. a dog and a rabbit? like a HUNT?! are you KIDDING ME?!
i think despite the terrible decisions he made in his life, child severus snape would be in awe of, and be really pleased with how his adult self turned out. this was a kid who stumbled over his words, got easily flustered and was described as awkward and twitchy. severus snape as an adult is intimidating, impressive, glides about the castle in his billowing robes, and strikes fear into the hearts of anyone who tries to cross him. he's also an extremely talented wizard in his own right. contrary to popular belief, i also don't think he seemed too much bothered about what people think of him - a feature most people want or respect. for all the fandom can talk on how much his life must have sucked, it appears, at least to me, that he wasn't as downtrodden as everyone thinks. there's this persistent resoluteness and fearlessness to him. i think about his conversation with dumbledore after the yule ball often. he doesn't say much, but the way he speaks so matter-of-factly about karkaroff and the inevitable return of voldemort. it clearly never occured to him to even hesitate. if anyone wants to know what kind of man he was, just look at that scene.
there are countless characters in harry potter that would never, could never do what severus snape did, let alone unflinchingly. it's very admirable, and you wonder why harry named his child after him.
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lol I miss drawing the boy
the thing that completely makes the 'the marauders/james and snape were both as bad as each other' argument completely false is the fact that... take a look at james in particular, born in a privileged position, loved by his parents, rich, pureblood. then take a look at snape, born in a poor family, has an abusive father and a neglectful mother, a halfblood. the other marauders, but especially sirius, completely complicit in bullying this kid just for existing. (because snape was not a death eater when he was in hogwarts nor was there any reason to believe he would be one from the very moment he arrived at hogwarts other than the marauders' prejudice towards slytherins.) this boy, was abused at home and bullied at school by these kids who just decided to make his life miserable just because they felt like it. growing up bullied and abused can make a person cold and mean. 'hurt people hurt people.' snape was not a bad person when he was a student at hogwarts, his bad decisions in life came after leaving hogwarts. and maybe it would help to consider the fact that his bad decisions come from the fact that his entire life he had been treated miserably by everyone around him, and he was abandoned by his best and only friend. lily was amused when he was being lifted up and had his genitals exposed in front of a crowd of students. lily married the man who made going to school a horrible experience for severus. none of the marauders (apart from perhaps lupin, but even that is debatable) ever showed any remorse for their actions, and if they did, none of them ever cared to apologize to snape for years of bullying and nearly getting him killed. james only has a 'redemption arc' in fanon. he is never actually shown to have matured. getting older and having a child is not maturing, even immature and irresponsible people can have children. (clearly, look at snape's father.) the only people who treated snape even remotely humanely were slytherins that would grow up to become death eaters. slytherins who were older than him too. and you don't think at all that that sounds awfully similar to being groomed into a cult? he switched sides and became a spy at great risk of his own life. he worked with dumbledore despite dumbledore never being shown to do anything to stop the bullying that happened to snape while he was in school. if snape remained loyal to voldemort, the wizarding world would have been screwed. he was mean, yes. bitter, yes. cold, yes. the man hasn't had a day of comfort in his life. from start to finish, he's been drenched in misery. that's bound to make someone feel and act miserably. but at the end of the day, he did what was right. meanwhile what did james do? bullied people and then died. what a hero, i guess?
To all the people who think James âdid godâs workâ by bullying Snape, I hope you realise that you sound like horrible people for thinking that sexual assault, especially when it was done to a child (if you like to call 16 year old James who committed SA âa childâ then I have every right to call Snape a child when he was the same age and was actually the person the SA was done to), or bullying, could ever be justified.
Snape became a Death Eater after they graduated, so you canât use that as an excuse. And do people not realise that a poor, half-blood Slytherin being bullied by rich popular Gryffindors would only drive him further away from the light side?
And no matter how awful you think teen!Snape mightâve beenâthat would still never, ever justify Jamesâs actions in SWM. You do not have to be perfect to be a victim, you donât even have to be a good person to be a victim. Not being an innocent saint does nothing to erase being bullied or assaulted, and the fact that Snape antis have continuously twisted the narrative in order to try and make Snape look like the bad guy when he was canonically the one who was bullied, harassed, and nearly killed, is just revolting.
Using logic like âhe deserved it,â âitâs his fault for not wearing trousers,â âitâs his fault for being a curious teenager,â âhe did other bad things so that makes it okay,â etc, makes you sound almost as shitty as James and Sirius. You arenât fictional characters, your words and actions hold power, and you should understand that claims like that are the very things that awful people have said to try and disregard real-life victims.
Bullying should never be glorified, no matter who itâs done to or done by. Period.
Hereâs a sneak peak of my contribution for the Snape Calendar 2023 @snapecelebration
The calendarâs theme is âlegends and fairy talesâ, so I was inspired by The Ugly Duckling by H. C. Andersen. âHe now felt glad at having suffered sorrow and trouble, because it enabled him to enjoy so much better all the pleasure and happiness around him; for the great swans swam round the new-comer, and stroked his neck with their beaks, as a welcome.â
More info on how to get it here.
âIf not for the hastily cast silencing charm, all of Hogwarts would have heard the anguished wail that ripped from the manâs throat. A sound so visceral in itâs nature, that Hogwarts herself being the only witness to the cries- her very foundation shook, her stone walls groaning in protest as she too grieved a long side him, as a conviction, a perception built on old wounds not yet healed, shattered before the manâs feet. Harry, was not James.â -Snape seeing the parallels between him and Harry.Â