[Do you feel like you have to take care of Shrier?] Take care? No. [But you two are close.] I mean, well, yeah, I mean… we spent a lot of time together. Like, a lot. It’s… [It’s nice, that camaraderie.] Actually, I was gonna say annoying. Like weird or… I don’t know. You ever spent way too much time with someone? [How do you mean?] Let’s say we’re taking a road trip somewhere. How about Yosemite? We’re taking a road trip to Yosemite. That’s, what, like 3,000 miles? But we figure that’ll be half the fun, right? The drive out there. I mean, we’ll make a cool playlist, we’ll stop at weird local diners, talk to old cowboys. But the rest of the time, we’re essentially just driving in the car. What do we do in the car? We’re talking about what we’re gonna do when we get there, right? I mean, check out the scenery, the animals. But then for the rest of the time, we’re just driving. And it gets boring. Even if we’re the most interesting people in the world. The playlist is over, we’re not hungry anymore, we ran out of funny stories to tell. And for a second, it gets almost scary– like, we did this on purpose? And now we just got to keep on going?



















