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Just a Finnish bloke that really enjoys video games and rambling about nonsense occasionally. I don't post that often and rarely reblog stuff. But if you enjoy reading an occasional ramble or thought, be my guest! I also very much enjoy history and languages! I find both very interesting and I've been studying Latin for a few years now. One day I'd like to learn a new modern language, but despite my interests I'm still a slow learner. Oh yeah and I also study programming and have dabbled a bit in game development. Check out my itchio page: https://dumbfinntales.itch.io/ I also got a bluesky thingie where I seldom post: https://bsky.app/profile/dumbfinntales.bsky.social

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Wow. Dragons Dogma 2 Dark Arisen was announced. It doesn't exactly look like the OG Dark Arisen, it seems to have a new open snow region with some new monsters. I was a bit disappointed in DD2, but honestly? I have high hopes for this one. The Dark Arisen expansion for the original DD made the game amazing, so I'm hoping for some sweeping changes. Even if there aren't many, I'll still get it lol

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Finally, after more than 4 months of work I can proudly present my latest project: Detective In Journey! Made in the Godot engine as part of my thesis for my school, I researched how to create a save system for a video game.

The game is still pretty short, but at least I kinda know how it all works. I'm sure that some bugs still exist in the game, but it should be playable, so enjoy!

Link: https://dumbfinntales.itch.io/detective-in-journey

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I was in an RPG mood and decide to go for a classic. A first timer from the now famous Larian Studios, Divine Divinity. Some people say it's a dumb title, but I like it. A bit redundant yeah, but sounds like something I'd come up in my teenage years lol.

Divine Divinity is an old school RPG from the early 2000's that looks and plays like good ol' Diablo 2, but really puts the R in RPG. Honestly I never knew just how much I wanted a game like this, and what would I do for a modern take on it. It's a top down action game a la Diablo, but has deeper RPG elements like a good CRPG. Side quests are more fleshed out, there's several way to do quests, you can move objects around the world, you can join guilds (although not quite as involved as in Elder Scrolls games) and there are many ways to build your character.

I love the games style, it's both serious and filled with humor and gags. It teeters a fine line and I think it works. In one early dungeon I found a note that describes a lord who tortured a suspected traitor in various horrific ways, and once a confession was made the "traitor" was boiled alive in oil. However turned out that guy wasn't a traitor and only confessed under extreme pain. The lord however exclaimed, whoever falsely confesses under physical pain deserves whatever fate they got for being weak. Brutal stuff. Then for contrast there's stuff like skeletons having an existential crisis because they shouldn't be moving around, or a human merchant bickering with a dwarf by the side of the road.

There's a bit of voice acting and it's really cheesy, but has charm. Side quests are quite interesting as well and involve more than just killing things and talking to folk. Although those kind of quests are around. Some quests are quite difficult to figure out, especially since so many side quests are prone to breaking. I wasn't able to get the dragon armor, because I returned a note to some NPC and was unable to get it back.

Being an older game before the day of patches Divine Divinity has a fair share of bugs. Quests breaking for the dumbest reason, or glitches that allow you to get infinite money. Sometimes enemies remain after death especially if you kill them frozen etc... There's also some questionable design decisions. Like you cannot get one of the holy relics without joining the thieves guild. I was playing a warrior, so I had no choice but to put points into useless skills like pick pocket and lock picking just so I can join and get a cool sword.

I also felt like the games end dungeon dragged on for way too long. It must have taken me 2-3 hours of gameplay and all you do is walk around long stretches and mindlessly kill hordes of enemies. You gotta take out 5 mini bosses to get to the actual final boss. Which was alright, was a bit of challenge even though my character was way too OP by that point. Honestly the whole end of the game is kind of a drag, everything after getting the council members together, hitting the gong and reforming again in the desert.

Overall Divine Divinity is a really fun game and a good RPG, despite my complaints. Larian Studios has been on a bit of a roll with their turn based RPG's as of late, but I'd love to see them tackle something like this again.

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Earlier today I beat Grime 2 and wow, I gotta review it because honestly, it's really good and I was blown away. Definitely one of the best new metroidvanias out there, and a massive improvement over the original. Although keep in mind, I played the original Grime during its release, so I never played the DLC's that came out. So I'm comparing a bit of an outdated version of the first game to the sequel. Some story spoilers will be below, but more towards the end of the review.

Grime as a game series is so fascinating. You can easily describe it as a platformer metroidvania with souls inspired combat and some RPG elements. But beyond that? It's so abstract and artistic. In the first game you play as a living black hole that goes around consuming creatures made of stone and random body parts. In the sequel you're a paint monster made out of hands (who also wants to eat everything) that explores a world created by an artist. Art, and the beauty of art are the themes of the sequel.

Gameplay wise it's the same affair. You explore an open-ended map, find new abilities and fight big monsters. You can also level up and make some builds for gameplay variation. There are also armors and weapons to be found in the world, making exploration worth it for the most part. The big new mechanic are the enemy molds. When you consume certain enemies you can absorb their form and do special attacks. They're fun at the start of the game, but even when you focus on molds the damage just isn't very good towards the end of the game. Some molds are really slow to cast, and you can take damage while using them.

There were quite a few things that annoyed me about the first Grime game, but most of these annoyances are done away with in the sequel. Moving around is snappy thanks to the slide jump ability, the respawn animation is quick, fast travel is more traditional and boss run backs aren't half as bad this time around. I also felt like the world in Grime 1 was kinda dull, but this time around it feels so colorful and alive. Shout out to places like Paint Reef and Starmire. Some of the platforming is kinda tedious in the sequel though, especially towards the end of the game, but that's probably just skill issue on my part.

Enemies and bosses in this game are fun and I feel like they're a lot better too. I honestly don't remember many bosses from the first game other than Shapely Fidus, and maybe Shidra. Here boss battles are exhilarating and aren't too difficult, but difficult enough to give a rush and a sense of accomplishment. Some of my favorites are Twinpalm, Blade Mammoth, Quadblade, Goel and the various Lahav Knights you encounter. I have to personally apologize to the Second Lahav Knight. I didn't realize how to reach it, so I thought I needed some late game ability. Well turned out I just missed the platform I was supposed to pull and left him to the very end of the game. I shattered him in seconds with my fully upgraded mammoth axe lmao.

[SPOILERS} I also felt like the story was a bit easier to follow, and the game gives you a false sense of having a choice. But it shows how Goel ended up the way he was... Also I think this game was a prequel to the birth of the main character of the first game. You're even considered an "egg" that needs to "hatch". I also enjoyed the various characters around the world a lot better. I really like Manzil, and how obsessed he was with revenge, he even ended up attacking his friends to get that revenge. The Ink dudes were also really fun, what a jolly cast.

All in all, in my opinion Grime 2 is a massive improvement. It smoothes out some game mechanics, like moving around the world and fast travel. You still need to explore areas to fully unlock fast travel, which was honestly a genius idea. Great combat, great bosses and a great world. I don't have much negative to say about it, and I definitely wanna play it again some day! Maybe make a dex parry build.

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Primal season 3 was great. It seriously reminded me a lot of the first season with different fights against natural horrors. I think S3 is a good blend of the first two seasons, and this one doesn't feel rushed or leave a bad taste in my mouth! S3 of Primal was a big surprise when it was announced. I wonder if they'll do a 4th?

I do have some questions bouncing around in my skull. What was the point of the S2 ending, if it gets completely retconned here? Maybe their plans were different at the time. I also felt like most of the "tension" and dramatic moments here felt pointless, because you know they all live. The only thing that brought sweat to my brow was the possibility of spear dying all over again, but thankfully they didn't do that. Honestly? A big redemption arc for the show.

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Since the start of this year I've been working on my thesis, and when I finish this I'm set to graduate from vocational high this summer. Not really sure if the last 3 years have been worth it, but at least this school has given me reason to do my own projects.

For my thesis I'm making a game on Godot once more, but the main focus is saving. I'll make a game, and write a paper about handling a game project with a save system. It's neat, but some of this code makes my head spin. I love doing art and animation, but coding is a real pain sometimes. I don't feel smart at all relying on tutorials and online forums. Not all the time though, I can cook up some stuff on my own. And I try that when I'm able, but there's no way I can code a save system or an inventory on my own without tutorials. Either way, the project is coming along well. Here's a sneak peek at the player character ;-)

He looks a bit bigger in game, it's a 100x100 sprite.

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So Mewgenics released recently, huh? The new big game from the creator of the Binding of Isaac. It's a big roguelike tactical RPG with cats. Loads of cats. And the game is neat. I adore Edmunds simple art style, the humor is so and so, and the gameplay is fun.

I don't play these types of games a lot, but they're pretty fun when I do give them a honest spin. I already have like 12 hours on the game after a few days of playing, and I just got to act 2. I kept getting my shit kicked in. I feel like I got lucky on the boneyard boss, because I cornered him by accident so he wasn't able to dodge my attacks for a couple turns. But man what a nasty boss.

Honestly my only gripe so far is that the runs take so long. I only do like one run per day, sometimes two. The sheer length of each run is kinda demotivating me not gonna lie, but that's a me issue and not a game issue. It's weird that I can play ARPG's or RPG's in general for hours without getting bored, but the moment a roguelike run takes more than an hour I start feeling fatigue. I don't really get it.

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I've been consumed by an absolutely deplorable addiction to a game called Grim Dawn. I first played it back in 2021 and thought it was just alright. At the beginning of this year however, my older brother decided to get the game on sale and play it. Naturally he talked to me about it as I had played it in the past. This eventually got me curious enough to start a new character, and hoo boy. I've been playing the game for a month now I think. Just creating new characters and builds.

I don't know what clicked this time around, but I can safely say Grim Dawn is one of my favorite ARPG's right now. Building a new character is just fun, and farming for gear is like playing a slot machine. It feels good to see that purple gear drop, and even more so if you get an item that enables a new build. Dunno how long this addiction lasts, but it's good that I keep playing this instead of buying new games. I'm a bit short on money right now.

I also got a thesis I need to work on. And I have, I haven't completely neglected it over my addiction lol

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Three years ago the season 2 of Primal ended, and it left me conflicted. I straight up did not like how it ended and thought they just rushed the whole thing because the show was ending. Well imagine my surprise when season 3 was announced. I lamented that I wouldn't watch season 3 if it ever came out, but that was a lie!

I had to see it, especially with the premise that Spear comes back as an undead of all things. The first episode was alright. We get to see the protagonists resurrection as he's used as a thrall by a sorcerer. Then the magic guy dies and zombie spear gains some sort of freedom, but his memories aren't there and he acts on instinct while sometimes getting foggy glimpses to the past.

Episode 2 was great. It felt like season 1 Primal. As Spear slowly drudges towards a familiar sound, he's hounded by all kinds of savage creatures. My question is just, if he's a zombie, yeah? How can he get visibly winded? Or hurt? He screams in pain when bitten. When he's underwater he just walks on the bottom, so clearly he doesn't need air. Questions questions, but so far this is very interesting.

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I finished Look Outside recently and just want to ramble on about it because I am quite enamored by the game. I started it at the end of 2025 and finished it at the start of 2026, so I don't know if I should count it among games played last year or this year, hah. Either way thoughts below!

Did you know that I am not really a big fan of turn based RPG's? I have a hard time enjoying them. I do have played games like the South Park RPG's and even Nintendos Mario & Luigi franchise, but the combat there is a bit more involved with timed button presses and gimmicks. Choosing an attack and watching an animation play out never really appealed to me... So why am I saying this in relation with Look Outside? Because it's the first turn based RPG I've been able to get immersed into and enjoy. It's not that the game does anything different. The setting, atmosphere and the characters carry the combat on their back.

Look Outside is a survival horror RPG where you play as Sam, an unemployed 30 year old something dude (just like me, fr fr) who wakes up one morning with the desire to Look Outside. But that's a bad idea because something eldritch is happening outside and anyone who dares to take a gander is transformed into horrific beasts. You are told to survive 15 days and that's it. You get to decide if you want to venture outside or just stay indoors playing video games, scrolling social media and in desperate boredom, do some crossword puzzles. You might also get a visitor or two at your door.

Talking about the game for real now instead of trying to sell it to you, Look Outside is one of the best modern cosmic horror tales. Crazy mysteries, weird monstrosities and even weirder characters. The whole idea that you have to avoid the outside, even depictions of it, is a great hook and has you wondering and guessing what the hell is going on. If you peek, you just die. The game's atmosphere set in a dingy apartment building is fantastic and oh good lord the game has an impeccable art style. Each new monster is so cool and creative. I mean you get to fight a car that wants to take you to hell.

Another big party of an RPG are the characters! There are so many friendly faces to meet with unique personalities and fun interactions. Like a slightly socially clueless gamer/streamer who hates every game you find. Or a Jason Voorhees looking woman who seems like a psycho, but is a bit of a sweetheart in her own way. There's far wackier characters in the game like a living vending machine, but I didn't get that character on my playthrough. My party consisted of Sam, Joel, Dan and Hellen. Joel was a good boy. Carried me in the end game because his ability teeth storm is busted if Joel has a ton of HP.

Perhaps a bit controversial, but the game does have a bit of an RNG factor. Especially with the door encounters. On some playthroughs you simply won't meet every possible companion. There are several companions that only show up at your door, but you just won't get them. I got most of the door people, but so late in the game that there was no point in changing my party of level 10+ characters. There's also tons of content, missable things, I definitely didn't get everything done this playthrough. The game encourages future runs with this, which is neat in my opinion. I like that every playthrough has its own spice.

The combat is serviceable. I like the survival horror elements of limited healing resources and ammo, it really made me think my moves. I hoarded a lot of bullets and then gave guns to Dan at the end of the game, it was good. I do like the strategic elements of choosing your gear, and what skills to use and what consumables to throw. You got a tough encounter? May I introduce you to 5 acid flasks in a row? The final boss never saw it coming. The game also has a 15 day "limit", where time progresses when you do stuff and reach new areas. It might seem like little, but it's plenty of time to do most of the stuff the game offers. I was able to do every apartment I found and complete like 8 video games and I was still able to reach the perfect ritual ending. Not the true ending though, that's also RNG. I never got the video game salesman at my door.

I also love the story. In most cosmic horror stories, especially by H.P Lovecraft the world is scary, and hopeless. But here? The big entity outside isn't evil. It's just curious and doesn't perceive reality like we do. Some of those grotesque monsters? They're still very human, they haven't all gone insane. Some even continue living their human lives in their twisted new bodies. Some are luckier than others. Look Outside is the exact opposite, it's hope. It's hope incarnate in a world that has gone beyond repair. It's hope and survival and I really dig that.

If you can't tell, I adore this game. The world and the art style just pulled me in and I was able to tolerate the combat, even enjoy it in parts. Maybe I'll give more turn based games a chance in the future. Do I have any critiques? Well there's a lot of trial and error, the game is very knowledge based. The RNG tied encounters are a bit annoying. Aaaand I wish we had more interactions with Jeanne. She feels a bit unfinished, but a really cool character.

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Time to wrap up yet another year. I'm not even going to joke about time passing quick, it's just how it is. I'd say that 2025 was pretty good for games, even though I didn't play most of the major releases, haha! Like the GOTY Expedition 33, no Kingdom Come 2, no Silent Hills so on and so forth. In fact, I played a lot of games that didn't come out this year. So end of year thoughts below, also with my personal GOTY. You'll never guess, hee hee.

I ended last year and started the current year with Mario and Luigi. Superstar Saga was fun and charming, but Bowsers Inside Story was just excellent. I really do enjoy turn based combat that's a bit more involved.

After that I played a bunch of indie games back to back. Antonblast was one of them, another Wario like with a lot of character. I loved the bosses, the style and how the game was overall inspired by Crash Bandicoot. The font, nitro boxes etc... Then I played a darling survival horror called Crow Country. Lovely aesthetic and just an all around fun game. Then I played a little Monster Hunter lite with Tails of Iron 2. A really fun, charming, but brutal action adventure. With mice!

I won't obviously go through every single thing I played. This would make a long post then. But one remarkable game I played this year was Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon. One of the few Elder Scrolls clones out there, and a really good one with an interesting story/setting and fun first person combat and build variety. It even got some DLC that I need to play some time in the future.

This year could be called the official Metroidvania year, because I must've played like 4-5 different ones. I played Voidwrought that I wrote off as a Hollow Knight clone, but I fell in love with the setting and the freedom of exploration. The game truly felt open. Then Gestalt of Steam and Cinder. A more story focused metroidvania, but a pretty enjoyable one nonetheless. On Christmas I also got as a gift a top down metroidvania called Crypt Custodian. A short, but very lovely experience. The game offers a slight challenge, but is pretty chill for the most part with really endearing characters and a story that might have made me tear up a little. I just have a soft spot for animals/pets.

Before I talk about my GOTY I gotta mention a game I'm currently playing. An old school turn based RPG called Look Outside. And I'm absolutely obsessed with it. The game is very difficult, and requires a lot of experience to get going. There's so much hidden stuff and bullshit that might turn some people away, but with a little research I'm loving it. It's a cosmic/survival horror RPG where you wake up in your apartment, and there's some eldritch monstrosity outside you can't look at, or you get mutated into a grotesque creature. That's the unfortunate fate of many of your neighbors. It rocks.

And finally. What's my GOTY? Well obviously it's Hollow Knight Silksong lmao, I'd be lying my eyes out of my head if I implied otherwise. It's the only long awaited sequel that ended up delivering. Dammit Prime 4, why? Well, at least Team Cherry knows what's up. Silksong is like the first game, but bigger and better and more challenging in every way. The game is massive as well, can't wait for more content!

So if you actually read all of this, thanks! In that case have a happy end of the year and let's look forward to 2026! If this year wasn't good for you, let's hope the next one is. We gotta keep moving forward.

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Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas! I just spent the whole day with the family, and half of it in a food coma lol. The Christmas feast we have every year is just so packed with food. Meats, casseroles, mashed potatoes, salmon, different breads, salads and for dessert some cheese cake. And let's not forget the one good thing to come from Sweden: Julmust. It's a Swedish Christmas drink we usually drink during these times, it's real good. Thanks Sweden!

As for gifts, I got a bit of money, a towel and a T-shirt. Although the T-shirt is XL in size. I wear M sized shirts. Ooops.

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happy belated birthday you old coot!!!!

Thank you, here's hoping that I'll still be in this hell hole for many a year!

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Alright, it's 15th of December so the clock moves another step forward. I'm already 31 years old. It feels almost weird to look at my age as a number, because what I see in the mirror is not a 31 year old man. But time is a cruel mistress, whether you like it or not!

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I've not been in the mood to write nor do my usual "reviews" for games recently, but Metroid Prime 4 released last week and I beat the game not too long ago. I just have to give my thoughts on one of my most anticipated sequels. And it's, hmmm, a tad bit disappointing I'm afraid. It's not all bad though, so full thoughts below. There also will be spoilers.

How long has it been now? 7 or 8 years since Prime 4 was announced? I was just a fledgling Metroid fan when it happened, and I remember I was so excited. As years kept stretching on I could not keep the excitement up, until we actually saw the game in action. Then as we crept closer to release certain controversies started to crop up. First was the bike and the desert, then the talkative NPC's. At the end of the day I wanted to give this game a fair shake. It can't be all that bad?

I'll start with the positives. For one, even on Switch 1 the game looks gorgeous. The art direction and the music are just amazing, everything I'd expect from a Prime game. The first few hours with the intro sequence, Fury Green and then going to Volt Forge to get Viola were amazing. I loved fighting the enemies and the bosses, the combat felt even better this time around and the game offered a fine challenge in some parts.

Talking about bosses, they're 100% the best part about this game. I just adored the boss fights. With the exception of this big crab boss, it was kinda monotonous. And the sand fish you fight on your bike.... But overall they were great fun and I even managed to die a couple times. I swear I have no idea how to dodge some boss attacks. Even as I strafe around the boss and jump around, some attacks always hit without exception.

Even though I didn't like how the games world was structured, I can't deny that I enjoyed all the different areas of the game. I already mentioned the first two areas, but the fire area and especially Ice Belt. Good lord I loved the Ice Belt. Slowly exploring this abandoned frozen research facility as you uncover the truth and what was going on, then you turn on the generator and the whole place wakes up. It was all peak, and made me care about the Lamorn and the Grievers a lot more. The only area I didn't care for were the Mines. It's just linear, and you have a companion with you almost 90% of the time. And they all have a dumb "self sacrifice moment", but actually no because they're okay after all. And then the games ending happens, lol.

Now it's time for the gripes. The games two big contentions were the desert and the NPC's. The desert wasn't all that bad, I guess. It was. Unnecessary? It was lifeless, boring, but didn't bother me too much. The fetch quest at the end of the game didn't take long at all either, but I did collect the "green crystals" diligently. Yes, they're called that in game. The Lamorn were real creative. But when I think about it, why was it even there? To give reason for the bike? To haphazardly imitate Breath of the Wild?

The NPC's honestly didn't bother me much either. Only Mr. Reddit who kept calling me up and giving me directions got on my nerves. And maaaybe the lady who was a big fan of Samus, but I found myself chuckling at her antics more than getting annoyed by them. The rest? Pretty neat. And I even grew to like them a little as I visited them later on, and saw them interact. The big robot was my fave. But even with this I would have preferred if they weren't there. Metroid is all about isolation and the exploration of an alien planet. I don't need chatty companions with me, no matter how charming they might be.

One big gimmick this game had was the bike, Viola. And I think I kinda liked it. A lot. I just wish it had more use, y'know? You use it to travel between towers in the Volt Forge, then drive around an empty desert with all these cool abilities, but barely anything to use them on. You also use the bike in a couple boss fights, but the one in the desert is atrocious and boring. I preferred the lava snake.

I think my biggest problems with this game were the story and the world design. In its core, Metroid Prime 4 is not a metroidvania. I can't fucking believe I'm typing that, but it's true. It's more designed like a 3D Zelda game with an open hub that connects the five areas. The areas are also painfully linear and have a greater focus on combat sequences than exploration and puzzle solving, which I wasn't a fan of. They try to make it more Metroid by making you backtrack for useless shit like data chips, why couldn't they just be regular upgrades? Also you need to backtrack into previous areas as you get new upgrades. Sometimes for collectibles, and sometimes other upgrades. It's just not good world design. I wish they had just removed the desert and connected the five areas in interesting ways.

If the game didn't have the desert and the pointless backtracking it would be a really short game. A lot of things in this game are designed to waste your time and bump up that play time. Without those things the game would probably be like 4 hours long. Rest you spend riding your bike through an empty desert, ramming into green rocks and watching loading screens. All the while some guy keeps calling you and reminding you to what to do, and worst thing yet, straight up tell you where you have to go. Fuck you McKenzie.

Now the story. What happens in the beginning with Sylux might just as well never happened. The whole game focuses on Viewros and the fate of the Lamorn and how Samus is the "chosen one" who has to preserve their memory. Sylux is just there. An afterthought. He shows up at the start, then shows up as a boss fight a couple times (but oops, it's not ACTUALLY him, but a robot mimicking him), is shown briefly in a cut scene and then he's the final boss. Admittedly a really fucking good final boss. But the way how he talks, and yells Samus' name in rage just falls flat. Who the hell are you, man? What's even your point? You lost? You get to know his backstory in a 100% completion run, and his motivation is just stupid. He is just a wasted potential and the only reason he's even here is because Prime 3 teased him at the end. Oh, and all your companions sacrifice themselves again and they stay stranded on Viewros with Sylux. Yippee.

Not sure if I have anything else to say. I did enjoy some parts of Prime 4 a lot, but then hated or was indifferent about the rest. Ultimately Prime 4 is just a disappointing game. Damn. Both of my most anticipated sequels just ended up falling flat. The only reason this doesn't hurt as much as Dragons Dogma 2, is because we did get Metroid Dread in the meanwhile. That game was awesome.

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Man, it's sad to see the spookiest month of the year go by so quickly. But halloween was pretty great this year! We played some board games, watched a couple movies and even carved a pumpkin. Not a very Finnish tradition, eh? We watched The Phantom of the Opera from my brothers horror collection. It was quite different as it had no supernatural elements, just a disfigured guy who went a bit cooky after an acid bath. Then we watched a pretty cheesy horror parody called A Haunted House. A parody on paranormal activity. It was pretty funny. Or maybe me being a bit drunk made it funnier.

I've also been playing the sequel to Tormented Souls. A great fit for this season, but man do the puzzles in this game make me feel like a dummy. I feel almost bad for looking up the solutions, thinking outside the box and problem solving was never my strongest suit.

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Hades 2 released like a week ago now, it has been on early access for some time, but we finally got the version 1.0 and man is it good. The games got a lot of surprises, has great characters and dialogue, fun combat and its tough as nails. But I've also been playing it while sick. Yeah, caught a nasty flu last weekend and been feeling pretty stuffy, sweaty and bad all week. It's getting better, but man why do common colds have to last so long?

Be like a stomach bug and be done in two days. Don't linger for weeks.