Elena Potter-Granger

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[nuninho2000]

Do you agree with the idea Ron is the glue of the trio and Harry and Hermione are close to him than each other?

Yes , Ron is the heart of the golden trio and the glue that keeps them together because Ron unlike Harry and Hermione was raised in the Wizarding World so he knows more about this world than both Harry and Hermione so both kind see him someone who has the knowledge and experience and of course Ron is the first friend of Harry's age while Hermione is more argumentative with him .

I think the best thing about Harry and Hermione friendship development is the fact that grows more and eventually they become brother and sister with Hermione being the old big sister that can sometimes nag Harry but cares about him and Harry knows this and deeply cares about Hermione platonically.

Hermione's love for Harry is just too beautiful. I don't know, but I see it as almost maternal. She gave him advice from girls and made him eat his meals (healthy meals, not too many sweets because they are bad for his teeth) and would do his homework, I'm sure she sent him to bed when it was getting late and he was still playing chess in the common room. She would be extremely protective and if a student said something mean about Harry (like spreading a stupid rumor about him being secretly happy about Cedric's death because he can now date Cho) she would make them wish they weren't born because no one messed with their brother newest. As if she took on the role of big sister, but as the two have no biological parental figure in the magical world (yes, there are Molly, Arthur and Sirius and Lupin , but they do not live with them on a daily basis), she feels like she has to take on that role too. Lucky that Ron was always there to help her raise her younger brother and stop her when she was going too far.

I believe that each member of the golden trio represents something the group:

Harry : The soul

Hermione: The mind

Ron : The heart

[elenasalvatore1]

Don’t tag Harry x Hermione under your “they’re basically siblings” nonsense.

Seriously. If you want to talk about Harry and Hermione as “basically brother and sister” there is a perfectly convenient thing called the Harry & Hermione friendship tag. Use it.

Harry and Hermione are not siblings. They are two unrelated people who became exceptionally close through years of shared experiences, mutual trust, loyalty and repeatedly choosing each other when things got difficult. Close friends can absolutely have sibling-like moments. That does not magically make them siblings, nor does it somehow invalidate a romantic interpretation.

And Ron was never “the heart of the trio”.

Please. 😂

The “heart” of the trio does not repeatedly let his insecurity dictate how he treats his friends, insult and undermine them, withdraw his support when things get difficult, and then walk away from them in the middle of a war. You can call Ron “the heart” as many times as you want. The books still contain his actions.

And if we're going to play the “surrogate family” card, then Ginny is actually much more obviously family-coded in Harry's life. She is Ron's little sister, Molly and Arthur's daughter, and part of the family Harry spends time with. Hermione isn't. Hermione is the person who became extraordinarily close to Harry outside that family structure.

So this endless attempt to turn Harry and Hermione into siblings because you dislike the ship is not some objective canon fact. It's your preferred interpretation.

And honestly, the funniest part of this whole discussion is the assumption that people dislike Ron and Ginny merely to make Harmony work.

Have you ever considered the much simpler possibility?

The canon romantic options are so underwhelming that people would rather ship Harry and Hermione with practically anyone than watch them end up with Ron and Ginny.

Harry/Luna. Harry/Draco. Hermione/Draco. Harry with practically anyone. Hermione with practically anyone. At this point, fandom will manufacture chemistry between two characters who exchanged three sentences in seven books if the alternative is sending Harry or Hermione back into the Weasley romantic carousel.

And that is the part you keep missing.

People aren't necessarily looking at Harmony and thinking, “We must destroy Ron and Ginny so Harry and Hermione can be together.”

Sometimes they're looking at Hinny and Romione and thinking:

“Absolutely not. Surely there is literally anyone else”

When readers are willing to ship characters with people they barely interacted with just to avoid the canon pairings, perhaps the problem isn't that everyone is conducting some elaborate anti-Weasley conspiracy.

Perhaps the canon romances are simply not as compelling as their defenders insist they are.

And frankly, the Weasley romantic carousel has been running for seven books. Some of us would quite like to get off.

And perhaps that should tell you something.

When a supposedly wonderful canon romance is so irritating, shallow, jealous and exhausting to some readers that almost any alternative starts looking more appealing, the problem may not be that everyone else is “bashing” your favourites.

Maybe the canon pairings simply aren't as universally irresistible as their defenders desperately want them to be.

Because honestly, I will never understand how someone can read seven books and come away thinking:

“Yes, Romione and Hinny are such magnificent romantic relationships that I must defend them at all costs.”

Meanwhile, other readers are looking at the same books and thinking:

“Harry and Hermione? Sure. Anyone but the Weasleys”

And before anyone starts screaming about “but Harry and Hermione have sibling energy”: Harry and Hermione also have intellectual intimacy, emotional trust, shared trauma, mutual dependence, loyalty and years of choosing each other.

Reducing all of that to “they're basically siblings” because you don't like the possibility of them as a couple is not an argument. It's a label that is based on nothing.

And the irony gets even better. When I criticised Hinny, I did it in the regular Hinny tag, not in some pro-Hinny safe space.

The tag was simply #Hinny. A ship tag. It does not come with an invisible disclaimer saying “positive opinions only, criticism will be punished”.

And yet some Hinny fans reacted as though I had committed a literary crime merely by expressing a negative opinion about their favourite pairing. The outrage over how “unfair” it was was genuinely impressive.

So apparently #Hinny is allowed to exist only as a celebration of Hinny, while #HarryxHermione is perfectly acceptable territory for people to come in and explain that Harry and Hermione are “basically siblings”.

Fascinating double standard.

If you don't want to encounter criticism of a ship, perhaps don't assume the neutral ship tag is a private fan club

Yet here, in the Harry x Hermione tag, we're apparently expected to scroll past people explaining that Hermione is Harry's sister and Ron is the sacred “heart of the trio”.

So criticism is unacceptable when it appears in a canon-ship tag, but rewriting Harmony as a sibling relationship in the Harmony tag is apparently perfectly reasonable?

Fascinating.

stop barging into the Harry/Hermione tag just to explain why Harry and Hermione supposedly cannot be interpreted romantically because you've personally decided they're siblings.

That's not canon.

That's your reading of canon.

And no, I don't need to pretend Ron and Ginny are wonderful romantic partners just because they're Harry and Hermione's canon spouses.

And honestly, sometimes the reaction to Romione and Hinny is

“Please keep Ron and Ginny away from them”

And apparently that alone is enough to make a remarkable portion of the fandom lose its mind.

Because let's be honest: when people look at the canon romantic options and start thinking, “Harry with Luna? Sure. Harry with Draco? Fine. Hermione with Draco? Why not. Hermione with practically anyone? At this point, absolutely”...

that should probably tell you something about how people perceive the canon romances.

When readers would rather invent chemistry between two characters who exchanged three sentences than watch Harry or Hermione get paired with Ron or Ginny again, perhaps the problem isn't some elaborate Harmony conspiracy.

Perhaps people simply find the canon pairings deeply unappealing.

So yes, ship Romione. Ship Hinny. Ship them with matching wedding cakes, seventeen children and a commemorative plaque in the Burrow. I genuinely don't care.

But don't act shocked when other readers look at those supposedly wonderful canon romances and go:

“Wait. THAT is who they're supposed to spend the rest of their lives with?”

And then immediately start looking for the nearest available alternative.

Because apparently the biggest threat to Romione and Hinny isn't Harmony.

It's the fact that a lot of readers simply don't want Hinny and Romione. 

[psychicphenomenonacolyte]

That's how Harry Potter should have ended:

[elenasalvatore1]

I’ll be a little busy preparing a response to my latest fandom discussion.

here’s a meme in the meantime (based on on my last fandom adventure 🙄🤣)

Fandom: Romione has emotional intimacy, trust and loyalty. Hinny has the same humour and the same vision for the future.

Me: Emotional intimacy? Ron and Hermione spent half the series hurting each other and calling it “banter”.

Loyalty? Ron walked away during a war. Hermione stayed.

Shared humour? One cheap joke about a tattoo is not a deep emotional connection. 😂

Harry and Hermione spent years choosing each other, understanding each other and surviving together. But sure… the real soulmate connection was the people who annoyed each other until they unexpectedly kissed. 🤡

[elenasalvatore1]

You know that scene in Order of the Phoenix when Harry shuts himself in at Grimmauld Place after the whole snake-vision thing? Yeah, that wasn’t a “Hinny” moment. That was pure Harmony.

Ron and Ginny did absolutely nothing while he was losing it, convinced he might be possessed. They just… let him sit there. Then Hermione dropped everything — Christmas, her parents, everything — and came back early just to make sure he was okay. She’s the one who actually cared, who pulled him out of that dark place.

And the best part? When he finally starts to open up, Ginny gets annoyed he didn’t come to her. Like, excuse me? He’s just starting to reveal his pain, and you’re already acting like he owes you an emotional report? Harry owes you nothing. Not your diary trauma, not your feelings. Stop acting entitled.

That scene says it all. Quiet care, understanding, connection — that’s Harmony. Always was.

[austenpoppy]

Not what happened.

Ron and Ginny both tried to talk to Harry, but he avoided them and refused to look them in the eye. When that became clear, they messaged Hermione so they could all talk to Harry.

Hermione didn't talk to Harry alone. Hermione, and Ginny, and Ron reassured Harry. It wasn't a Hinny or a Harmione moment, it had nothing to do with romance. And the whole point of Ginny saying Harry should've come to her is that she saw Harry was withdrawing into himself thinking he was the only one who'd ever been cursed that way by Voldemort, when Ginny was right there.

Imagine being, as an example of a horrible experience, stalked by a serial killer. Then a few years later, a friend of yours thinks they're being stalked by a serial killer and goes into a "this is just me, this never happened to anyone ever" mood, forgetting this happened to you. Wouldn't you get even a tiny bit irritated ?

Harry and Hermione are not romantic soulmates. They're friends, and their relationship has their strengths and weaknesses. Turning Hermione into Harry's sole emotional support when she's not even the first and Ron and Ginny are right there is certainly a choice.

Let me all remind you that one of the points of Ron's departure in the last book was to show how needed Ron is emotionally speaking (not just emotionally but that was the point), because when he's not there Harry and Hermione can barely talk to each other, to the point they propped Phineas Nigellus's portrait on a chair to fill a tiny bit of the "Ron-shaped hole" of their lives.

[elenasalvatore1]

Calling it a fact that Ron and Ginny "tried to talk to Harry" is a pretty bold claim. What we actually see in the book is Harry shutting himself in his room, refusing to come out, and avoiding everyone. We don't see Ron and Ginny making repeated attempts to reach him after that. What we do see is them contacting Hermione because they know she's the one who can get through to him.

And what does Hermione do? She drops everything. She cuts her Christmas with her parents short and comes back immediately because she hears Harry is suffering. No hesitation. No excuses. No "maybe later."

Funny how actions always seem to speak louder than fan interpretations.

People love to reduce love to chest monsters, awkward flirting, and jealous bickering. Personally, I have a higher standard. Love is putting someone else's needs above your own. Love is showing up when they're falling apart. Love is carrying someone's pain without asking for anything in return.

That's exactly what Hermione does.

Now let's talk about the idea that Harry somehow owed Ginny a conversation.

He didn't.

First, whether Harry confides in someone is entirely his decision. Ginny has no moral right to act as if he owed her an emotional confession.

Second, Ginny's experience and Harry's are fundamentally different. Ginny was possessed by a Horcrux. Harry is a Horcrux. Those are not remotely the same thing. She has absolutely no idea what it's like to literally carry a fragment of Voldemort's soul inside yourself. Those situations are about as comparable as catching a cold and living with a chronic illness. Similar villain. Completely different reality.

Third… and this is conveniently ignored…..Ginny herself admits in that very conversation that she barely remembers what happened while she was possessed. So... what exactly was Harry supposed to gain from talking to someone who openly says she doesn't remember the experience everyone claims made her uniquely qualified to help him? If she doesn't remember it, then she can't possibly offer the insight people claim she could. Harry wasn't wrong for not going to her.

Then there's the classic, "Harry and Hermione aren't romantic soulmates."

That's not an argument. That's your interpretation.

Mine is different.

I see far more emotional intimacy, trust, vulnerability, and partnership between Harry and Hermione than I ever see in the canon romances, which often read like the author deciding that every main character needed to be paired off before the epilogue.

Ron as Harry's emotional anchor? Ginny? That's honestly hilarious.

Harry barely thinks about Ginny for huge stretches of the series unless the narrative reminds him she exists. Even when they're together, he constantly hides his fears, grief, and tears from her.

Hermione is different.

She's the person he vents to about Dumbledore. The one he shares his frustrations, fears, and thoughts with. She's there for the Tournament, for Dumbledore's Army, for Sirius, for everything. She's the person in front of whom he cries without pretending to be fine. She's the one he discusses Lily's letter with even while Ron is sitting right there. At Bill and Fleur's wedding, his eyes immediately search for Hermione, not Ginny.

So yes, Hermione is Harry's emotional anchor. The books show it over and over again.

And since Ron inevitably came up...

swear I'm going to write a post one day called “Ron Weasley: apparently flawless, powered by an endless supply of fan excuses”.

The way some fans have practically canonized Ron is incredible. Every criticism is buried under increasingly absurd excuses. Every other day it's "Ron is the heart of the trio." If that's the heart, somebody should probably call a cardiologist.

The claim that Ron left in Deathly Hallows purely to demonstrate how indispensable he was emotionally is nothing more than Ron-fan headcanon dressed up as literary analysis.

Rowling herself has explained that she always knew Ron would leave because it was the natural culmination of his character arc. His insecurities, jealousy, and unresolved personal issues had been building for years, and eventually they exploded into the choice he made. His departure exists because of his flaws, not because the story needed to prove everyone else couldn't function without him. Leaving wasn't some noble narrative device to show how amazing Ron was. It was the consequence of who Ron had become.

As for the old "Harry and Hermione barely talked without Ron" argument...

I honestly wonder whether people stop to think about the context before typing.

These are two seventeen-year-olds hiding in the middle of a war. Their best friend has just abandoned them after weeks of complaining, blaming them, and walking away. They've lost a wand, lost a watch on night duty, lost manpower, lost security, and have absolutely no idea what comes next. Living in isolation. Constantly hunted. No adults. No plan. No idea where the next Horcrux is…….

…….And somehow the expectation is...

...what, exactly? Campfire karaoke? A comedy podcast? Do people expect them to throw parties?

Their silence isn't evidence that they can't function together. It's evidence that they were traumatized, exhausted, grieving, and trying to survive after being betrayed by someone they believed would never leave.

What it does show is something much simpler.

When Harry reached one of the darkest moments of his life, the person who dropped everything and came to him was Hermione. The person he trusted enough to be vulnerable with was Hermione. The person who consistently shared his burdens, his fears, his grief, and his silence throughout seven books was Hermione.

it is the strongest emotional foundation for a romantic relationship in the entire series.

[adhemara]

Omg never thought I would have the fortune to meet a fellow ginny hater but I'm glad I found you. Recently re-read the books and my ick for her just increased. Will never understand why she is a fan favorite. She was first of all barely there in the books except for the 5th, and 6th one. And people are always raving about how she was dirtied by the films which yes I agree the movies did hollow her out too much, but where was this "badass" book ginny they keep talking about ? Where was she ? Cuz she didn’t have any personality outside of being a hilariously obvious mean girl pick me in the books.

I really don't understand her appeal at all. Love your blog, keep bringing anti ginny posts. It brings me peace.

Lol thank you it pleases me to find another Gi**y hater lmao. I just think people love fanon!Ginny and they completely replace her as canon!Ginny. They think that Ginny is an unbothered character with a sharp personality (especially in front of Harry) but it's the absolute opposite in the books. She's barely there, the romance doesn't make sense and is entirely forced on Harry and her whole personality revolves around gluing herself to Harry and being like him.

I thought JKR was doing something interesting in book 5 when she made Ginny try to "move on" from Harry (as if they ever were something to begin with but whatever, I don't even know what she tried to move on from lol) but then in book 6 her changing her personality in front of Harry, dating other boys and such was all for Harry's attention. Oh and that attention and obsession she has for Harry is only because he's the Boy-Who-Lived (she wrote a poem on book 2 and admitted to Harry's face in book 6 - why would JKR wrote Harry to be ok with it when he spent the entire previous 5 books hating anyone seeing him as only a Saviour is beyond me). She doesn't care about him outside of that. If she did, she wouldn't have called Harry "stupid" the ONE AND ONLY TIME Harry had shown a shred of vulnerability.

Oh and her being in Slughorn's club, full of influencial people because of a Bat-Bogey Hex (admitted by Slughorn and Gi**y herself) and also because "a lot of boys like her" (according to Pansy even though the previous 5 books nobody gave a shit about her) doesn't make ANY SENSE.

I find this gross and I don't understand why anyone wouldn't. I'm not going to mention her xenophobic comments on Gabrielle (11 years old btw) and Fleur. Her telling Ron to not mingle in her business but SHE DID MINGLE in his and Bill's - like sit this one out you hypocrite girl.

I really don't understand how, in her canon state, people would like her.

They just like the fanon, made up idea of her. Not her canon traits.

[elenasalvatore1]

Peak romance or just teenage stomach drama?

Every time Tumblr decides to bless my dashboard with another Hinny edit, I'm reminded how incredibly low the bar is for "peak romance."

Apparently Harry developing an anthropomorphic stomach problem is supposed to move me. "The monster in his chest."

I'm sorry.

That doesn't sound like love. It sounds like something that requires antacids. People treat this metaphor like it's Shakespeare. It's... jealousy. That's literally what it is.

Harry spends years barely registering Ginny as a romantic possibility. Then she starts dating someone else and suddenly there's growling, glaring, and an internal creature having the emotional maturity of a jealous sixteen year old. That's not profound. That's puberty with dramatic narration.

And before someone says, "But that's how teenagers fall in love!"

Sure.

Teenagers also mistake jealousy for love all the time. That doesn't magically make it emotionally deep. Meanwhile, look at how Rowling writes Harmony.She never needs to invent a chest monster to convince us Harry cares about Hermione. She gives us instinct. She gives us trust. She gives us understanding without explanations. Harry doesn't have to be reminded Hermione exists because another boy is talking to her.She's already at the center of his emotional world. That's the difference.

Hinny depends on absence. Take Ginny away for a few chapters and Harry barely thinks about her. Harmony doesn't. Hermione can stand silently beside Harry and the scene still carries more emotional weight than pages of Harry internally growling because Dean kissed his first fangirl .

And that's another thing people conveniently ignore. Harry literally drops his jaw when Hermione appears at the Yule Ball. That is one of the oldest visual shorthand devices in storytelling. Authors don't make characters forget how to breathe because they're experiencing "friendly surprise." That's cinematic language. Ginny's grand Yule Ball moment? Harry notices Neville stepping on her feet.

What a romance.

So yes, every time someone tells me the chest monster is Rowling's greatest romantic achievement, I can't help laughing. One meaningful Harmony scene has more emotional intimacy than an entire relationship built on hormones, jealousy, and a metaphor that sounds suspiciously like gastrointestinal distress.

If your strongest romantic argument is an angry organ...

...maybe your ship isn't as convincing as you think.

[elenasalvatore1]

Harry: trusts Hermione with his life, literally in war, grief, and survival situations. Canon logic: “but does she play Quidditch though?”

Reality check: apparently emotional loyalty, intelligence, and shared trauma don’t matter… but broomstick hobbies do.

[elenasalvatore1]

You know that scene in Order of the Phoenix when Harry shuts himself in at Grimmauld Place after the whole snake-vision thing? Yeah, that wasn’t a “Hinny” moment. That was pure Harmony.

Ron and Ginny did absolutely nothing while he was losing it, convinced he might be possessed. They just… let him sit there. Then Hermione dropped everything — Christmas, her parents, everything — and came back early just to make sure he was okay. She’s the one who actually cared, who pulled him out of that dark place.

And the best part? When he finally starts to open up, Ginny gets annoyed he didn’t come to her. Like, excuse me? He’s just starting to reveal his pain, and you’re already acting like he owes you an emotional report? Harry owes you nothing. Not your diary trauma, not your feelings. Stop acting entitled.

That scene says it all. Quiet care, understanding, connection — that’s Harmony. Always was.

[evenlesssentimentaltranslator]

And the best part? When he finally starts to open up, Ginny gets annoyed he didn’t come to her. Like, excuse me? He’s just starting to reveal his pain, and you’re already acting like he owes you an emotional report? Harry owes you nothing. Not your diary trauma, not your feelings. Stop acting entitled.

Damn, shipping really does ruin reading comprehension. The purpose of that scene was to highlight Harry’s tendency to try to handle dangerous situations on his own, which is foreshadowing for the mistake that led to Sirius’s death.

[elenasalvatore1]

I think you're arguing against a point I never made.

Of course Harry's tendency to carry everything alone is one of the central themes of Order of the Phoenix. Nobody is denying that. In fact, that's exactly why the scene exists.

The point of my post isn't Harry's flaw. The point is who actually responds to it.

This scene is constantly used as evidence that Ginny uniquely understands Harry because she supposedly went through the same thing.

But being possessed by a Horcrux and being a living Horcrux are not the same experience. Ginny was influenced by a Horcrux. Harry literally was one. Those situations are fundamentally different. Ginny's experience is not some magical key to understanding everything Harry is going through.

More importantly, look at what actually happens in the story.

Harry isolates himself. He ignores Ron. He ignores Ginny. He spends days locked away, convinced he might be possessed by Voldemort.

Ron doesn't get through to him. Ginny doesn't get through to him.

Hermione is the one who cuts her holiday short, leaves her parents, comes back early, sits down with Harry, talks to him, and ultimately pulls him out of that spiral.

That's not interpretation. That's literally what happens in the book.

There's also an irony here that people tend to ignore. Hermione is the one who correctly suspects that the vision about Sirius is a trap. If Harry had listened to her, the trip to the Ministry never happens and Sirius survives.

So yes, Harry's self-destructive tendency to handle everything alone is absolutely a major theme. Nobody is disputing that.

What I am disputing is the fandom narrative that this is somehow a great Hinny moment because Ginny uniquely understands Harry.

Where?

She doesn't get him out of the room. She doesn't convince him he's not possessed. She doesn't help him process what happened. She doesn't stop the downward spiral.

Hermione does.

Character flaws explain Harry's behaviour. They do not automatically give other characters credit for helping him when they didn't actually help him.

And when Harry finally starts opening up, Ginny's response is essentially annoyance that he didn't come to her first.

That's exactly the part I was talking about.

Harry is barely beginning to talk about his fears and trauma, and somehow the conversation immediately becomes about why he didn't tell Ginny.

Harry doesn't owe anyone an emotional report. Not Ginny. Not because of the diary. Not because she had a bad experience years earlier.

The scene isn't evidence that Ginny understands Harry better than anyone else.

What the scene actually shows is that when Harry reaches one of the lowest points in his life, the person who drops everything, comes back for him, and helps pull him back into the world is Hermione.

That's the dynamic I'm talking about.

[adhemara]

You started a war on X for saying ginny was a pick me lmao that's a fact she WAS a pick me why are people offended 😭

I wouldn't call it a war. Just expressing my opinion. But I believe this fandom takes things way too personally lol. If you criticise a character, they immediately assume the worst because it gives them likes and boosts their popularity. I don't much care what other people think since it's MY OPINION on MY ACCOUNT, it's not an objective fact. Feel free to ignore/mute/block me.

You can find Ginny awesome. I don't. I don't like Ginny and I just expressed my opinion as to why.

I think (idk it's a guess) that people have romanticised her character too much with fanon creation due to how poorly the movies made her out to be (ppl don't read the books they wouldn't know who she truly is) to the point that they actually forgot canon and think that whatever I'm saying is bullshit. They're trying to overcompensate. And it's true, the movies haven't given her justice.

But like... I just read the books. It's just how she is in the books, I'm not inventing anything.

I believe she became a Mary Sue in book 6 purely to be Harry's love interest since it's not Harry who is seeking out information about her from her or noticing her popularity but it's other people (Zabini and co e.g.) telling that she's hot and popular. JKR wanted her to be Harry's love of his life. Nothing more.

But when she insulted Fleur, talked down Hermione by telling her she doesn't understand anything about Quidditch so she should shut up (how hypocritical to seek her advice to catch Harry's attention but to act rude with her afterwards), or when she humiliated Ron in front of Hermione, because he never had a partner, yes my opinion of her soured over the books. Plus, she admitted on her breakup with Harry to have changed for him (on the advice of Hermione). She said that she knew Harry wouldn't be happy if he didn't defeat Voldemort (as if Harry's after some personal achievement and not upholding a duty where he barely had a say in it and which was given to him by Dumbledore). She called Fleur "Pheur", mocked her french accent, said that she has no talent except being pretty, called Harry shallow for having defended her and she said he does it because he's attracted to her (he isn't)...

What conclusion can one make when faced with those facts (again, all in the books)?

Me believing in her being a Mary Sue & pick me is purely personal. Others can think she's righteous or badass. I don't. It's my opinion and I believe having a different sort of opinion in the same space/franchise is good.

[adhemara]

You know what's worse about all of that...is that JKR LITERALLY admitted she was a Mary Sue just to be a plot devise of Harry's love interest: "The plan was, which I really hope I fulfilled, is that the reader, like Harry, would gradually discover Ginny as pretty much the ideal girl for Harry."

I also want to add that what miff me the most is that the narrative NEVER acknowledges she's bad.

No, if she does act like a bully by hexing Smith or act like a xenophobic, pick-me, sexist person is because she's really funny and rightful! She should join the Slug's club with influential ppl because yes, that one Bat-Bogey Hex clearly shows how strong and influential she is, guys! Exactly what Slughorn is looking for! Let's not invite Susan Bones who literally has Amelia Bones as a mother who not only was in Harry's trial in book 5 but was also the Head of the DMLE, yeah it makes more sense to have GINNY JUST FOR 1 HEX that is going to bring 0 influence to him than Susan!! (Why was she even in that blasted club when Slughorn didn't even care for her afterwards? I know why. That was rhetorical)

And the fandom excusing Ginny's behaviour like "she's only 15!!" And? I don't care if she's young it's NEVER OK to be sexist. Those behaviours start at a young age. Yeah guys... such an ideal person for Harry.

Because yes, that interview of JKR where she literally said that Ginny was only written to be Harry's love interest makes no sense: "The plan was, which I really hope I fulfilled, is that the reader, like Harry, would gradually discover Ginny as pretty much the ideal girl for Harry."

Ginny was only a plot device and nothing more. Why?

Because JKR failed completely to write her as "ideal" because Harry never liked his fan club in the books, he AVOID THEM, which Ginny seemed to be part of considering what she says when they break up ("you've been too busy saving the Wizarding world...I know you wouldn't be happy if you didn't hunt down Voldemort. Maybe that's why I like you so much.").

How is she the ideal woman for Harry when she claims to like him ONLY because he's a hero (clue: the poem in book 2 btw ("he's really DEVINE, the HERO WHO CONQUERED THE DARK LORD.") something Harry absolutely loathes and accuses other people to like him for this same reason (Romilda Vane).

So JKR's statement seemed contradictory in itself (and has been criticised in livejournal/blogs when the 6th book came out - many ppl hated Ginny actually) because Harry, suddenly, out of nowhere, likes her for no reason, doesn't describe her physical features (except the hair) and they barely even talk or bond, they just snog.

How is that the ideal lover for him?

The ideal person for Harry would have given up everything to hunt down the Horcuxes with him (Harry allowed Ron & Hermione to come with him and never thought that Ginny should btw), Harry wouldn't have shy away from even TELLING them about the Horcuxes (He told Ron & Hermione despite planning to go alone) or even Sirius for that matter (book 4, didn't even want to speak about his only family in front of her), and the ideal woman wouldn't have screamed at Harry and call him "stupid" because he forget THE MOST TRAUMATIC EVENT OF HER LIFE and make it all about herself and her possession as if Harry wasn't in depression and hadn't just heard Mad-eye and Mrs Weasleys saying that Dumbledore believes Voldemort is going to possess Harry to spy on them.

Harry literally bonded with Hermione, Luna and even SUSAN BONES - but never with Ginny. Not with things that mattered. Because neither does Ginny like just Harry, neither does Harry like her for her because if he did, he would have been ok with her crying and showing vulnerability (like he did for Malfoy & Dumbledore) and wouldn't have said that "one of the many things he liked about Ginny is the fact that she wasn't weepy" and Ginny wouldn't have to cry to Ron instead because she knows Harry would instantly lose all his projection/expectations on how to be the ideal partner and how she's the safest/best option for him to belong to a traditional family (like JRK intended) if he ever sees her cry.

Does Harry even like her beside his projection? No. If he did, he would have been curious about her, her childhood, her friends (she's 1 year younger than Harry, a chatterbox according to the twins and popular in book 6 how the hell does she have 0 friends of her age and only has Neville (Harry's friend), best friend Hermione (Harry's best friend), Luna (introduced by Ginny, later becomes Harry's friend). He would have been curious about her hobbies besides Quidditch, which she started to like because Harry did since she was literally SLEEPING during the debrief of the Quidditch World Cup in book 4... Harry does not care about her as a person beyond what she represents for him. A chance to belong to a family.

Is that Harry's ideal partner? Someone who hides her tears to not break Harry's made up imagination to get his deepest desire (family) by putting on a strong mask and acting as if she's not messy inside, accepting Harry running off who knows where only knowing he's going to fight Voldemort, not even asking about how he's supposed to do that or if she can join him, acting all aloof but then being overly possessive of him just because his ex wanted to show him the Ravenclaw Common Room, calling him stupid that ONE TIME HARRY SHOWED WEAKNESS, having no friends of her age and hanging out with people who are close to Harry, having no hobby of her own that she doesn't share with Harry, dating other boys to get his attention, putting down other woman to make herself feel better...Is that really Harry's ideal partner, or JKR's self-insert/wish fulfilment fantasy?

I'll let you decide on that...

[elenasalvatore1]

Thank God I'm not the only one who sees and understands this. To be honest, it scares me how many fans idolize and adore Ginny.

[adhemara]

You started a war on X for saying ginny was a pick me lmao that's a fact she WAS a pick me why are people offended 😭

I wouldn't call it a war. Just expressing my opinion. But I believe this fandom takes things way too personally lol. If you criticise a character, they immediately assume the worst because it gives them likes and boosts their popularity. I don't much care what other people think since it's MY OPINION on MY ACCOUNT, it's not an objective fact. Feel free to ignore/mute/block me.

You can find Ginny awesome. I don't. I don't like Ginny and I just expressed my opinion as to why.

I think (idk it's a guess) that people have romanticised her character too much with fanon creation due to how poorly the movies made her out to be (ppl don't read the books they wouldn't know who she truly is) to the point that they actually forgot canon and think that whatever I'm saying is bullshit. They're trying to overcompensate. And it's true, the movies haven't given her justice.

But like... I just read the books. It's just how she is in the books, I'm not inventing anything.

I believe she became a Mary Sue in book 6 purely to be Harry's love interest since it's not Harry who is seeking out information about her from her or noticing her popularity but it's other people (Zabini and co e.g.) telling that she's hot and popular. JKR wanted her to be Harry's love of his life. Nothing more.

But when she insulted Fleur, talked down Hermione by telling her she doesn't understand anything about Quidditch so she should shut up (how hypocritical to seek her advice to catch Harry's attention but to act rude with her afterwards), or when she humiliated Ron in front of Hermione, because he never had a partner, yes my opinion of her soured over the books. Plus, she admitted on her breakup with Harry to have changed for him (on the advice of Hermione). She said that she knew Harry wouldn't be happy if he didn't defeat Voldemort (as if Harry's after some personal achievement and not upholding a duty where he barely had a say in it and which was given to him by Dumbledore). She called Fleur "Pheur", mocked her french accent, said that she has no talent except being pretty, called Harry shallow for having defended her and she said he does it because he's attracted to her (he isn't)...

What conclusion can one make when faced with those facts (again, all in the books)?

Me believing in her being a Mary Sue & pick me is purely personal. Others can think she's righteous or badass. I don't. It's my opinion and I believe having a different sort of opinion in the same space/franchise is good.

[elenasalvatore1]

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[elenasalvatore1]

Do you see the Weasleys' being blood purists at some point in their history?

I’ve finally decided to start working through my asks, so I will get to everyone just slowly. Thank you for your patience 💛

Now, about the question.

Short answer: no, I don’t see the Weasleys as blood purists. Long answer: they don’t need to be…. they have their own… charmingly persistent sense of moral superiority.

Before anyone reaches for pitchforks: I don’t hate the Weasleys (except Ron and Ginny). I’m actually fairly neutral about them. They just fall into that very specific category of “family you love more when they’re not in the same room.” Charlie moving to Romania? Deeply relatable life choices.

The Weasleys don’t discriminate based on blood, which already puts them miles ahead of actual purists. But they do have a noticeable tendency to treat their worldview as the default setting for everyone else. And if you don’t quite fit into it… well, things can get awkward very quickly.

Percy is probably the clearest example. I’m not here to defend him, but the moment he steps out of line with the “family position,” he’s essentially labeled a traitor. There’s very little room for nuance, or even for considering other perspectives. It’s less “we disagree” and more “you’re either with us or against us.”

Fleur gets a similar treatment. Molly’s skepticism doesn’t come from evidence so much as from Fleur simply being not like them. And in this particular ecosystem, “different” tends to translate to “probably wrong.”

Grimmauld Place is another highlight. Watching Molly confidently establish authority in someone else’s house and then instruct Sirius on how to interact with his own godson is certainly… a bold interpretation of boundaries. Especially considering that, while she’s kind to Harry, she isn’t actually a parental figure in any meaningful sense. Hospitality doesn’t automatically equal authority.

And then there’s the twins, who only receive support once their choices prove successful. Because clearly, belief in your children is best served retroactively.

So no, not blood purists. Just very convinced that their way of doing things is the correct one, and everyone else is… temporarily mistaken.

If anything, the closest they come to that kind of bias is in their attitude toward Muggles… where things get unintentionally ironic. Arthur’s fascination is endearing, yes(!) but it occasionally drifts into the territory of « enthusiastic anthropologist who forgot he’s studying actual people ».

That bookstore scene lives rent-free in my mind. I often wonder what the Grangers ( educated professionals) made of being enthusiastically identified as “real Muggles” by a man who finds rubber ducks deeply mysterious.

So, no … not purists. Just… very comfortable being right.

To be completely honest, I’ve never quite understood the insistence that Harry has to become part of the Weasley family - as if that’s somehow the ultimate happy ending, or a requirement to justify canon pairings.

Harry, of all people, deserved the chance to build his own family: one grounded in mutual understanding, support, and emotional clarity. The kind of bond where he’s actually seen, not just folded into an already well-established dynamic.

For me, that kind of connection is much easier to imagine with Hermione. Meanwhile, the Weasleys work perfectly well in that “extended family” category : appreciated, valued… and, ideally, at a comfortable distance.

[elenasalvatore1]

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Lily and little Harry🥹😇❤️

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you know how to break my heart

[chaztalk]

The “I’m glad this ship isn’t canon because it would’ve been too cliche/predictable/hero gets the main girl trope is so tiresome” take is such a fake ass performative nothingburger take. If that’s the case, why isn’t anybody outraged that Percy and Annabeth ended up together?

[elenajones23]

This, but also the lazy man child ending up with the A student who is extremely out of his league not only the most cliche/predictable and most BORING trope ever. It’s also the MOST TOXIC, ABUSIVE trope. It’s out dated, it’s how men write “love stories” where the man is below her league and instead of him leveling up to her league, she’s stepping down to his low low low level.

It’s telling women to NOT “dare” have any kind of standards at all and to be with the guy who she will have to baby for the rest of her life.

Thus we have Hermoine ending up with Ron.

[chaztalk]

Never forgetting the time Hermione clung to Harry out of fear when they were in the Department of Mysteries. She didn’t cling to Ron. She didn’t cling to Harry to be the supposed “big sister” to protect him. No, she clung to him because she feels the safest when she’s closest to him ❤️

[dramiones]

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“ i hope you stay around for a long, long time. i think i want you in my life forever. ”

[grangerpotters]

“Do you think the universe fights for souls to be together? Some things are too strange and strong to be coincidences.” – Emery Allen.