hi this is ram
i like bret easton ellis novels but not really
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hi this is ram
i like bret easton ellis novels but not really
blonde on blonde violence
Just re-read Less Than Zero and it made me even madder about Imperial Bedrooms.
If Ellis had fully committed to IB as a sequel, told Clay's vile story in the present tense and used flashback scenes to explain why he ended up like he did, I would have been seated. I would have been absolutely devastated about the choices my boy decided to make, but it's such a deplorable transformation it couldn't help but be interesting.
And if it hadn't been a sequel, just a disgusting story (mostly) about things that happen in Hollywood every day, I think that would have suited Ellis' style really well, especially if the story was built out with new characters.
But as it stands, "Clay" from Imperial Bedrooms bears so little resemblance to "the character that's based on him" it just frustrates me.
Clay was never a bad kid*. I thought maybe I'd missed a moment of true, violent depravity from him the first time around, but he genuinely does absolutely nothing in the most literal sense of the word. He's just severely, severely mentally unwell. He doesn't watch the coyote die because he gets a sick thrill out of it, he wants to feel disgusted or upset or scared or anything but nothing. And when he finds two things he thinks would cause him to feel genuine disgust he steps away, because the thing he wants more than anything in the world, to feel something, still isn't worth that. And when he finds something terrible he thinks he can stomach, turns out he can't.
*Dgmw, he lets some disgusting things happen when he could've intervened and he continues to be friends with some disgusting people and what he did to Blair was cruel, but 1. He's a fictional character, and as a fictional character his entire function is to be completely passive and 2. He's 18 and extremely unwell, he should've done something but there's only so much he could've done.
It's also so, so important that Clay chooses to leave. Although he comments that school isn't much different from LA, it's clear he's more grounded there. It's far more likely that Clay changed while at college, rather than the entirety of LA and his old friendship group changed that much in four months. Rules of Attraction doesn't exactly corroborate that, but I feel Clay was meant to be more of a reference, a caricature, in that book. Free my boy! He doesn't want to disappear here, he wants to be a tangible person!
This isn't particularly coherent, I just love my beautiful son. Be nicer to Blair and her friends, Clay, all of yours suck.
how do you guys rank Ellis's novels
for me it's
glamorama
american psycho
the informers
imperial bedrooms
lunar park
the rules of attraction
the shards
less than zero
Only including those I've read ofc
American Psycho
The Informers
Glamorama
Lunar Park
The Rules of Attraction
Less Than Zero
People always say "dont anger an artist they'll draw you pregnant," but the same lowkey applies to writers because once a guy pissed off bret easton ellis so ellis wrote his girlfriend being tortured by patrick bateman
how do you guys rank Ellis's novels
for me it's
glamorama
american psycho
the informers
imperial bedrooms
lunar park
the rules of attraction
the shards
less than zero
really interesting how divisive BEE can be like i just saw someone say they enjoyed imperial bedrooms
Favorite Bret Easton Ellis main character?
(Puhlease do not vote if you’ve only read American Psycho)
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Clay Easton (Less Than Zero, Imperial Bedrooms)
Sean Bateman (The Rules of Attraction)
Lauren Hynde (The Rules of Attraction)
Paul Denton (The Rules of Attraction)
Patrick Bateman (American Psycho)
Victor Ward (Glamorama)
Bret Ellis (Lunar Park)
Bret Ellis (The Shards)
Oldie but #Goldie
Hey, hey, breathe... Look at me.... This is all your fault, okay?
Screenshot of a tweet from Roger Avary that reads "Glamorama is finally underway. 👀 #excited"
american psycho if it was fucking awesome
If theoretically I made a server to discuss BEE novels, movie/musical adaptations and to share fan works and if I theoretically posted the link here would anyone be interested ^^
https://discord.gg/VGtjRNgny
(18+ only please!)
Hot take: Pat Bateman actually did kill all those people. Also it's normal to relate to him.
Analytical rambling under cut
More AP Genderbend and Patricia Bateman?
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WAIT just saw this four month old req
Anon you still there? Here’s some Patricia Bateman we deserve