MBTI Puppet Theatre... in an ENFJ's head.

[enfjpuppettheatre]

I don't expect you to see this considering how long it's been but do you have any advice for an INTP dealing with grief? Pls ignore if that's a painful topic or anything.

Look at GIFs of bunnies, and know that even if things suck right now, they'll get better. It's OK to sit in your grief. It means you had something or someone that mattered. And if you're up for it, find a way to celebrate what you had, instead of mourn what you lost.

[enfjpuppettheatre]

What do you think of the Light Academia aesthetic?

Some of y'all have never been at the mercy of multiple academic institutions and it shows.

But seriously, cozy sweaters and oversized clothing? Yes. Sweater vests? No.

[enfjpuppettheatre]

Erm, I hate to bother you, but I know this ISFJ who needs cheering up because some people were being really mean. As a fellow ENFJ, do you have any suggestions?

Bad puns usually do the trick, they'll be focused on why they bother to put up with you, instead of the other people :D

Also fresh air, exercise, and grilled cheese.

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HELLO. BOSS GHOST HERE. YOU ARE AN APPRECIATED AND VALUED MEMBER OF MY STAFF. POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT ASIDE; MAN FROM UNCLE MBTI. HAVE IT ON MY DASH BEFORE THE OFFICE PICNIC.

Lol, my ancient asks are hilarious.

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Hi how do I deal with an ENFJ who broke up with me twice [technically three times but the third time we weren't even together she just wanted to tell me that she didn't know why she thought we could ever work out again], won't initiate contact unless she's feeling down, keeps coming back and saying she loves me but also that she doesn't want to date yet and then going off and dating other dudes. And who told me to talk to her less now because I make it "difficult for her to date other people."?

DUDE, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THIS EARLIER, BUT CUT THAT GIRL LOOSE. Delete, delete, block on all the platforms.

Answering now, in case someone needs to see it. You can control how much interaction you have with this person, and where!!

[enfjpuppettheatre]

In what ways are ISFPs and ISFJs different from each other?

Sooo ISFP and ISFJ in question in conversation with someone they despise, in only the way that ISFs can despise another person:

ISFJ: hahaha (laughing charmingly through gritted teeth) ISFP: *is nowhere to be found*

[enfjpuppettheatre]

How are ESFPs so perfect?

Good Tubmlr Anon. You came to this place, the house of an ENFJ, looking for validation with this particular opinion?

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How do you think ENTJs deal with their anger?

Ahem, I have witnessed the following from my pretty thorough yet non-scientific study of ENTJS, with different subjects identifying as male and female: 

- taking it out through a workout (big watts) - frustrated tears - quitting a job to make a point - finding other ways to be better than the person who made them angry - no visible signs of distress (I find this one especially alarming) - writing long angry emails & saving to drafts instead of hitting send - calling or texting a trusted friend to rant - quiet fuming  - trying to “fix” the problem

You know, I’ve been friends and worked with a lot of ENTJs, and I don’t think any of them have ever directed their anger AT me - I think they direct a lot of feelings inward instead of outward if that makes sense. They have a huge capacity for drama, which flares pretty regularly, and yet are usually pretty zen in the face of adversity.  

[enfjpuppettheatre]

Can you give tips on how to develop Se?

I don’t know, I’ve never really consciously tried to develop any of my functions, it just kind of happened. What I DO suspect is that the more you read books/expose yourself to the ideas of other people through talks, videos, podcasts, continuing education, you’ll get a chance to experience the world a bit differently than you have up until this point in your life & maybe start new behaviour patterns too. 

Try new things, and allow yourself to be bad at them! Trying new things gets scarier as we get older because we’re not as used to “micro failures” (sorry there’s probably already a word for this, but I made this up because I’m tired) that we experience as kids when we’re learning through trial and error. We get more risk-averse as we get older (usually), and it prevents us from making the huge learning leaps we can make as kids. My Se really blossomed around the time I started trying a bunch of new things, because of my environment and circumstances.

[mbti-sorted]

hi it’s trentynne. thanks so much for typing me ☺️ i loved reading what you had to say. i used to wonder if i might be an enfj. i’m still pretty sure i’m an xsfp but thank you for your insight. were there any other clues that lead to your conclusion other than the hand-talking?

I have to admit that I did initially think ESFP.  I think you present yourself like one, and a lot of your responses are on the surface things I would expect from an ESFP.  (Which is why you’re still going to have to get famous, so I can add you to my totally not creepy people collection - actually everyone participating in the challenge is underrepresented, and I can’t tell you how nice it is to type people who aren’t giving the same canned answers to the media over and over!)

It’s more the way you’re talking about things that feels like an ENFJ to me.  My brain does ‘It’s a match!!!’ and offers no other information (”...because it’s a match??  ???”), so any analysis I can offer is me trying to pick my brain apart after.

The astrology thing is kind of funny - you have the same attitude towards it as @enfjpuppettheatre.  One of the ENFJ authors (Eleanor Catton) also centered a huge brick of a book on the topic.  Wanting to go in every direction, career-wise is very ENFJ.  Not having a collection, but maybe ‘I should start one...?’ in the exact phrasing is something I could easily hear in my sister’s voice.

The bit about people finding you rude when you were not is a problem that @enfjpuppettheatre has also dealt with.  I’ve known a bunch of ENFJs of different ages, and when I’m older than them, they tend to have very firm boundaries and treat me as an ‘authority figure’.  They are kind of blank in the face, which means that for people who react to you based on your reaction to them, there’s nothing to work off, and it sometimes makes them a little nuts. 

I don’t know if it will help, but because you’ve got a dance and music background - ESFPs tend to be very showy, with impressive technical facility or very crowd-pleasing enthusiasm.  ENFJs tend to focus on form - making shapes perfect in dance, or getting very rich tone in music.   I don’t know how well that translates, though, when you’re trying to apply it to yourself.

[enfjpuppettheatre]

@mbti-sorted you’re giving away all my secrets :O

[mbti-sorted]

How do ENTJs tend to deal with anger?

Bullying their staff...

[enfjpuppettheatre]

I disagree!!!! Rude af. #entjprotectionsquad

[mbti-sorted]

Get Sorted Masterpost

Introductory post  - instructions, list of questions.

Google Form - for entering your video.

mbti-sortof podcast - @enfjpuppettheatre and I answer every question.

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#GetSorted!

In which the audio of @mbti-sorted is amazingly clear due to her new microphone, and the audio of @enfjpuppettheatre is 500kms away. Sorry! We’ll fix it for next time.

ANYWAYS, @mbti-sorted wants to type y’all by video. Go find the instructions on her blog. 

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Get Sorted

I. THE MBTI-SORTED VIDEO CHALLENGE

What I need from you:

Record a 10-min. video; don’t worry if it’s not exact, but try to be within a minute or two. Answer as many or as few questions from the list below (Section B)  as you’d like, plus the three at the bottom (Section C).  Don’t over-edit the video!  I really want all your weird long pauses, and your rambling.  If you make a 20-min. video and need to cut out some questions to make it back to 10, that is acceptable.

Upload your video to a platform like YouTube, or Google Drive, and send me the direct link using this Google Form. Either a public or unlisted video is fine, whatever you’re comfortable with doing.  If you want to make it easier to find, you can tag your video under #get sorted.

Make sure you are well lit from the front, not the back so I can see your face.  Don’t sit too close to the screen, so more of your body language can be seen.

If you’d like, you can use an interviewer or camera operator, so you are interacting with another person. Make sure to face the camera wherever possible, though.  If they want to answer questions, too, they must submit their own video (this is an interview, not a conversation!).

You must be 18 years of age or older to participate.

Please submit your videos by February 28th, 2021. This is an experiment and I have no idea how many videos will be submitted, so I appreciate your patience!

What You Get: I will try and type you! I might not be able to, but I can probably narrow it down. 

II. Video Content

A. INTRODUCE YOURSELF: What is your (first/screen) name? MBTI results will be shared via a post on mbti_sorted, so please make sure you only share information that you are comfortable with being used publicly on Tumblr. You can also introduce your interviewer or camera person.

B. PICK SOME QUESTIONS TO ANSWER (for approx. 9-minutes 30 seconds):

Tell us about a teacher or a coach who left a big impression on you.

What was your favourite subject in school and did you pursue it as a career?

Do you have any athletic injuries and how did you get them?  

Do you believe in any supernatural phenomena?

Tell us about a recurring conflict with a family member.

What character do you identify with the most and why?

How many languages do you speak?  Is English your first language?  If it isn’t, answer a question in your native language (please summarize it after in English!).

What advice would you give to your younger self and what would they think of where you are now? Would you warn them about anything?

Do you people-gather?  (If you’re unsure, ask others in your group(s) if they’re there because of you.)  How many groups do you belong to, and what do you think of this?

Are you passionate about your career? Tell us about it.

Which holiday brings you the least joy?

Are you a heartbreaker or a heartbreak-ee?

What is your dream car?  Or if you aren’t into cars, what piece of technology do you dream of owning?

Would you rather make a lot of money at a job you hate or do a job you love that keeps you below the poverty line?

Do you collect anything?

Have you ever had any alternative career paths/life gameplans?  Do you wish you had taken another path in retrospect?

Do you have a good sense of direction?  How do you navigate (when you can’t rely on GPS)?  Do you navigate new places/buildings the same way you navigate your home town/familiar buildings?  Is your sense of time better or worse than your sense of direction?

Credit to Temple Grandin for this question: if I tell you to think of a church steeple, what’s happening inside your head?

Would you be unable or unwilling to answer any of these questions?  Which?

C. ANSWER THESE THREE QUESTIONS (30 seconds):

How much preparation did you do before making this video?  If you have an interviewer, did you pick the questions or did they?  Who decided to do it that way?

What type do you think you are?

In 1-3 adjectives, describe how you think others see you.

[enfjpuppettheatre]

PSA: go get typed by @mbti-sorted

[mbti-sorted]

Will your ENFJ sister describe her Se experience more? Is it like your surroundings just suddenly become clearer and feel more real?

@enfjpuppettheatre?

[enfjpuppettheatre]

Not to be dramatic but in the last year of my undergrad I took an architecture course that completely changed the way I experienced the built environment. It was a while ago, and my 20-year old self’s rollercoaster of emotions have tempered into something more like an average adult amount so I don’t know if I will do justice to describing what it felt like. I will try though!  So it was a bit like the anon says - surroundings became clearer and more real but also I think while my Se was hitting me over the head, it was dragging my Fe along for the ride and literally I would have to stop in the middle of a city street (where I’d lived for over 3 years at that point) to appreciate the features and the 3-dimensional physical space that a building took up, because it was all too much and I was a bit overwhlemed with the beauty and scale. It was like the world had grown another dimension of which I constantly aware and couldn’t turn off. 

I had always enjoyed exploring new cities, small twisty towns, and appreciated a good landscape but this was next level. Another thing to note is that I studied/work in the arts and I can’t remember experiencing this same kind of thing/being overwhelmed to the same extent with any other artform … visual, dance, theatre, music, literature. Sure, sometimes they make me feel things, and even make me cry. But bro, have you tried architecture. 

From that point the aesthetic of a place 100% didn’t just affect me, but was at the forefront of things I would think about when making day to day and bigger life decisions. It’s kind of the same thing I experience when I log-in to Pinterest - the curated page of visual images floods or satisfies my Se and it actually calms me down or puts me in kind of like a flow-state?

Over the next 10 years I moved around the country for jobs, and to another country for school (and lived in places that were incredibly satisfying to my Se), and have only just moved back to the small town/suburban region where I grew up. In a lot of ways it’s a great thing but honestly the one aspect that makes it a struggle - which sounds RIDICULOUS when I actually put it into words because really - is that my Se is not satisfied. It actually eats away at me, even when I’m not thinking about it. Normally I would satisfy this with travel, but you know, COVID.  Anyways, all that happened about a year after I was compelled to join a sports time for the first time in my life, so age 18-20 was definitely when my Se developped lol. 

[enfjpuppettheatre]

How would you think an ENFJ would feel about fashion, and what style(s) might they prefer to wear? Would it be consistent or change with ENFJ's mood?

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conversation between a female ENFJ and a male INTJ?