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You make soup in a big bowl. You serve it in a smaller bowl. And then you convey it, using a spoon, to your mouth. But what is the spoon? Simply a smaller bowl still
you’re so golden
El and Will reaching out for Henry's remaining humanity
Anyway. I made this gifset because I saw someone say "Of course Will would relate to a serial killer after trying to steal someone's boyfriend!"
It was something really dumb like that. Their whole account was full of similar statements.
NO
YOU DON'T GET IT
YOU DON'T SEE THE VISION
EL AND WILL HAVE BOTH REACHED OUT FOR HIS HUMANITY!!!!!
EL AND WILL ARE BOTH FOILS TO VECNA!!!!!!!!!!!
EL IS 001's FOIL AND WILL IS HENRY'S FOIL, AND TOGETHER, THEY DEFEATED VECNA WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I KNOW THEY DIDN'T GIVE US PROPER WILLEL SCENES AND I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR THAT
BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE LITERAL DIALOGUE ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT IS NEARLY IDENTICAL BETWEEN WILL AND EL OK
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Anyway. I'm going to bed now. But this has been on my mind I must say. It's kinda frustrating. The show is over. It wasn't the worst but it wasn't great.
And there's still people out there who think their character (who is written identically to another character) is soooooo much better because their ship with the another character is sooooooooooooooo much better.
El and Will don't deserve this lack of media literacy. I know that's thrown around a lot but come on.
i am not hap-satisfied
when he carried the entire season
"Duffer brothers say..."
Can the duffer brothers shut the fuck up??
"there are no coincidences"
"pay attention"
"everything connects"
"focus"
and then nothing has any meaning
Stranger Things cast and crew making the set gay af before the Duffer Brothers arrive
Claim your “Wonder Twins Deserved Better” ticket here!
i'm also going to join the natalia dyer/nancy wheeler love train by saying she is one of the greatest characters of all time. the final girl turned soldier. our favorite detective. she goes from dealing with the trauma of being a teenage girl to facing the final boss head on with a huge ass gun. and at the end of it she gets to hold her baby sister close and finally, finally save the people she loves
she has been one of the most consistent characters of the entire show, she has grown so much and accomplished so much and her life is only just beginning! and she finally gets to cut herself free, she gets to forgive herself. she gets to win. she gets to love jonathan deeply without being tied to a relationship. she gets to surround herself with the friends who understand her completely
and natalia dyer did her so much justice, cared for her so deeply, gave us this extraordinary arc and portrayed nancy as someone who is so tough and so brave but also so scared, so traumatized. someone who baby talks at cute dogs and guns down soldiers and lies her way into medical facilities and smiles to herself when she asks someone if they're friends. nancy wheeler is absolutely everything to me and i am so so happy she got what she deserved <3
The one scene I really liked/actually creeped me out was Hopper getting vecna'd and then shooting El and then we see El's bleeding and lifeless body in the water I was like OMG thats creepy wow, my heart was racing
I was like wow they go back to actually being scary.
Don't get me wrong I knew she wasn't really shot and it's just Vecna messing with him but omg just the visual aspect of that scene was soo haunting.
How does a beloved show lose its soul? How can a decade-long anthem of outcasts become a Marvel Endgame cash grab catering to the GA? How can you fail your audience AND your characters in only one season?
The answer to that is simple: we have largely overestimated the Duffers. They have never cared about us. They lied to us and we believed them. They wrote the show about themselves and for themselves but WE, real outcasts, gave it meaning, soul and LIFE.
Since the conception of Stranger Things The Duffers have talked about how much the show mirrors their experiences.
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In their childhood/teenage years they felt like outcasts who "did not belong", so they wrote a story reflecting on that and empowering the feeling of being different and not conforming.
This sentiment was passed down to the actors who actively preached this idea to the masses.
In the 2017 Sag Awards speech David Harbour emphasized this point and promised that the show's core theme is protecting and fighting for the marginalized groups.
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And we believed them. Oh how we wanted that to be true. We, freaks, nerds, queers, neurodivergents, outcasts, those bullied, ostracized and othered, were relieved that we finally have a show representing us, protecting us, sympathizing with us.
And that was our downfall.
2. The Duffers weaponized bigotry under the guise of protection.
Based on their own lives and experiences, they wrote a story that is deeply personal to them: a story of boys who were bullied for their looks and playing DnD, a story of boys whose crushes didn't love them back, boys who hated school and dreamed of showing a middle finger to their principal.
It was never meant to be bigger than this.
Female characters were used to motivate the core four, traumatized victims were never meant to heal, queer characters were never supposed to get flashed out interests.
Because that has never been the Duffers' priority. They wanted to create a coming-of-age narrative about themselves.
Why did Henry, El and Kali get these horrible devastating endings? Because they were a means to an end. The supernatural aspect of the story had to be left behind in order for the boys to "grow up". These characters became sacrificial lambs. They were slaughtered because they have always been plot devices.
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Byler didn't happen for the exact same reason. It was never meant to be considered more than just a macguffin.
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3. We cared so deeply for these characters that we gave them meaning. We developed them more than the writers.
We were so attached to them that now these post s5 interviews feel like a slap in the face.
Misogyny, ableism, racism, homophobia. That's what the fans are facing now. Those nerds and freaks that you're supposed to fight for are being bullied online for caring about the characters the Duffers created. For looking for details and clues in the show that tells us 'I don't believe in coincidences', 'pay attention'.
And the worst thing? They encourage this behavior.
They literally admit that – the plot is there for shits and giggles. Nothing matters. It’s not that deep.
The decapitation of the first victim of the Mind Flayer was a fanservisy 'fuck yeah' moment. Yes, the main characters reflect on their trauma there. What about Henry Creel though? Is his trauma not important enough to show explicitly? Should we not sympathise with him at all?
"I guess so!" Whose show is that, Matt Duffer?
They even laughed at theorists and fans in the goddamn show.
Where does it leave us?
Henry Creel enjoyers, El and Kali fans, Bylers, Mike Wheeler has character development truthers, time travel theorists, inconsistencies are not production errors believers, we were not delusional. We just interpreted the show differently, and frankly, quite better than the actual writers.
It’s a shame the show didn’t live up to its full potential and turned out to be an incel escapism fantasy. I hope one day we’ll get to see an actual media designed to stand for the outsiders.
"I mistook stars reflected in a pond at night for those in the sky" Andrzej Sapkowski, The Time of Contempt
I guess, at the end of the day, it really wasn't that deep, after all.
We just gave the Duffers far more credit than they deserved, and they ran all the way to the bank with it.
What upsets me is that they've been telling us over and over again, inside and outside the show, to pay attention to the details; that nothing is a mistake. I keep going back to that "look behind the curtain" scene in s2 and I wonder what they wanted us to take from that. We didn't make it up in our heads that this show had depth. They explicitly told us to look for it. And then they spat in our faces for trying.
Okay maybe this is super controversial, but can I just say, as happy as I am that Lumax got their happy ending and their movie date, the fact that they were also reduced down to just being about each other, to settling down in a small village where their love continues to grow makes me mad?
You're saying that a boy who was so smart and courageous, who had issues with wanting to be popular and fit in before finally standing up for himself, who was subjected to racism in a small town is just suddenly able to be at peace because he settles down in a small town just like the one he already lives in and what...tries to continue to fit in whilst having to continue to face the challenges of existing in an interracial relationship?
And that a girl who was so pro-individualism, who pointed out to El that there is more to life than stupid boys, who calls the whole ending to Mike's campaign trite bullshit, who broke up with Lucas like 6 times, that she is just supposed to be happy settling down as a wife without acknowledging her own sense of individuality?
I'm not mad that they got to find love in each other; I think that's beautiful and I do love their relationship, but I am mad that their ending implies that they don't also get a happy ending as individual, fully realized versions of themselves in addition to their love for each other.
What pisses me off is that they also did Mileven dirty. They absolutely trashed the ship and they could've rebuilt it with random moments but they left it ambiguous for the sake of queer baiting us so that it didn't even have the emotional impact that it should've. It felt as cheap and rushed as the coming out scene initially did.
The duffers actively affirmed Kali's idea that her life was only ever going to be suffering and death btw. And then used her death to change the narrative of Jane's story. For what purpose? What makes Kali and Jane different? That Jane has love? Because Jane loved Kali.
They completely abandoned one of their woc (Erica) and used the other like a weapon JUST like Kay and Brenner and 001. They are no better than the villains that they write. Can we FINALLY actually have conversations about how deep the racism is entrenched into this show?????????
Can someone explain to me what happened to El? I'm so confused. What part of the story is real and what part is Mike's copium?
Wow LOVED the part when El says 'I love you' to Mike just before she dies and he doesn't say it back even though that was their whole conflict last season. Great writing there.