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zoe’s social media content hasn’t changed at all…
u know when i said i'd come back to it i meant that i'd write a separate, original post abt it but who knew even after being semi inactive i could still continue to count on my passive aggressive anons to give me a more efficient way to talk abt my opinions under their comments. btw this is gonna be long n it's only part one i'll add more in a sec <3
anyway. if u want me to give u the benefit of the doubt i can assume u maybe just don't remember s5/6 all that much. the thing is that s7-8 are a unit n the change i'm talking abt has been gradually happening since s7 specifically bc they already knew what s8 was gonna be like. we as the audience didn't so ofc it didn't seem as insidious back then as it does now in retrospect when we know what it was always leading to. also inb4 someone comes complaining abt how i'm just making shit up now: this isn't a new thing i literally already talked abt this during s7. zoe's oversexualization vs mailin's "purity" hasn't come out of nowhere:
now that said even IF u only remember s7 sm content, there still is like. a drastic unmissable change so idk what ur talking abt. but alright let's move on to zoe's instagram ❤️ here's her s5-6 type of content vs s7 aka what she posted before mailin's season was ever planned vs while her season was already concrete but her story wasn't the focus yet
n these are her posts just from the first week of mailin's season + the last posts of s7 after her relationship w finn was ending
i personally don't even think these individually would be bad but it's the fucking ig stories that are the last straw for me.
the nexts pics are from s5-7 n the content zoe posted during it
we have silly faces & sweet smiles w butterflies, a ton of her in bed in hoodies n her glasses, a loooooot of taste testing n so many vids of her just eating food. the closest we've got to her silly faces in s8 that have been CONSTANT in the past? the sexy teacher look i guess. seriously, not even during halloween, during the sexiest of holidays, did she pose suggestively like this
her just messing up her shirt looking like she drooled on herself n let's not forget her funny filters!
n u might think wah wah ur just cherry picking the posts!!!! i literally went through ALL of her highlights n the ganggang account n tried to screen shot every post (excluding dancing, bc we'll get to that in the next part) that could be counted as suggestive n i got like. 3
n u know what else i realized while doing that? on zoe's own instagram u can find more suggestive/"sexy" poses from kieu my than from zoe herself
now here's the content we have of her from one week during season 8, a season who's protagonist is uncomfortable w sex n is the most vocal abt women's rights n trying to emphasize women as more than sexual objects.
in all of her pics she's posing w her butt out, she's sensually touching her chest n laying on the floor winking at the camera, almost flashing under her skirt while dropping it down n one of her shaking her hair to the lyrics "sometimes all i think about is you" & "can't make you happier now". now whether or not u wanna count that as lyrical symbolism when she's posting that around the time mailin is gaining interest in her ex is up to u but worth pointing out :)
and it IS imperative to know WHEN these new types of posts are being posted. who knows maybe mailin will organize some feminist movement n zoe will post a pic w no make up to participate. maybe she'll post an ugly hangover selfies after a major party during the season. these are not the Only types of pictures/stories she'll post. but u cannot deny the intentional timing of zoe, finn's ex, suddenly acting n posting like this out of the blue at the exact same time mailin, finn's new interest, is clip after clip emphasizing how much she dislikes the idea of sex/touch & fighting against the objectificaion of women. also literally as i was typing this post out zoe posts a new pic n i was pleasantly surprised to see it's just a cute silly butterfly ring :) oh and also the last slide is her sliding her hand up her thigh w the camera angle almost showing up her skirt :)
also like i said this is long lol but yes this was only the first part <3 in the next reblog i'll talk abt dancing like i promised. u know bc zoe loves dancing! <3 unlike mailin. mailin is awkward w dancing, she just stands to the side. mailin prefers football and is sporty. mailin is one of the boys as they beg her to join their team bc she's such a talented smart athletic girlboss who uses more than her physical looks to be cool.
so let's talk abt instagram dancing. here's what we have from this season
her rolling her hips, bending for the camera, running her hands up n down her body. (she's not the only one ofc as u can see w yara) but it describes the kinda focus she's been given for the season at least the start of it (u know. the part that establishes the characterisations n dynamics n lays the undertones for the whole thing).
when i went to look through her instagram i went in fully expecting to find more of this sort of dancing from previous season. i did not. the only thing that got close to this was during the rave from s5. and this party w her shaking her butt against kieu my which i read as her joking around w friends especially since she does the "pretending to pull a person towards u by an imaginary rope" dance move directly after
other than this? we have these dances
twirling around to barbie girl w a sweet smile, hip bumps w kieu my n chaotically dancing w her n nora, lips syncing to ariana grande w cleaning gloves n a cleaning wipe in hand. and the last in which she does the choreo in almost a robotic n spooky manner while kieu my actually sensually moves her hips n hands. n to be fair to the season we do have her dancing in a silly way w ava n nora from this season too, but it's not from her own instagram
also one suggestive dance that i didn't include yet bc i wanted to talk abt it separately
her shaking her butt in front of a poster. again i would personally call this a joke between friends, she's definitely not dancing as seriously as in the s8 vids but i don't wanna try to twist the narrative here so let's say yeah she's dancing sexually here. but do u wanna know what she's singing in this video? do u wanna know the song? she's singing "girl! they wanna have fun mm mm mm". yeah. that song. the same lyrics mailin altered to make "girls just wanna have fundamental rights." coincidence? absolutely. this is from 78 weeks ago lol. way before a mailin season was even spoken of. but u know what isn't from ancient druck times?
this 25 week old (isi's season. the season that was being written while the grounds for mailin's season were being laid out) story from zoe's insta when she was out w kieu my. coincidence? could be. who knows maybe the social media team got to pick this one w/o knowing abt the writers plans for the s8 opening. but also after all the evidence i put above i'm not gonna... Not mention this bc at this point who knows lmao maybe in their opinion zoe does just wanna have fun while mailin wants to have fundamental rights.
*deep breath* AND ANOTHER THING msjfksjdj
this isn't as related to sm content anymore but u know during s7 i was actually impressed w the open relationship plot line. i thought it was handled alright n the conclusion wasn't "open relationships don't work/are bad" but just that zoe n finn weren't made for that type of a relationship. however now in retrospect w all this going on i'm kinda changing my mind bc if they're oversexualizing her in this manner, the idea of her being one of the only (?) druck characters (or skam characters in general) to ever seriously talk abt anything non-monogamous as a genuinely viable option for a relationship now comes w completely different connotations.
also idk maybe a few disclaimers abt this chain of posts:
1. nothing abt zoe's posing & dancing & pics etc is wrong. it is not wrong or immoral to post pictures like these and it DEFINITELY doesn't mean u are okay w being objectified. this post is only addressing skam social media as a tool of their story telling. if zoe always acted like this i wouldn't be talking abt this. but she hasn't n this is clearly a way to contrast her w mailin who's the complete opposite of her when it comes to sex. the shift of zoe's content for the purpose of this contrast is what makes it bad, not the pictures n videos themselves.
2. i pointed out kieu my acting more suggestive than zoe. the reason for that was bc her posing is more consistent than zoe's, yet her characterisations hasn't got out of hand n she hasn't become more sexy, in fact she posts more cutesy pics w fatou nowadays. which means this specifically targets zoe as she is finn's ex. however kieu my, a bisexual woc, being sexualized more than zoe, a straight white girl, is a whole different topic that isn't part of the zoe/mailin issue talked abt in this post but i'm just clarifying that here to make sure ppl understood why i pointed out kieu my's role in these "sexy" poses
Yk beyond my regular issues with Mailin/Finn there’s something… that feels,,, ick about this pairing to me, and I think it’s specifically in comparison to Sasha/Isi/Lou and Finn’s previous relationship with Zoe
Like,,, hmm… I can’t help but feel like this is the second time Dr*ck is basically doing a Madonna-whore trope… wherein by virtue of their goodness, the ‘Madonna’ characters gets the LI?
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Ok but that's so funny to have the entire season be an example of isi being a bad friend both to other people and to themself, being inconsiderate and just an all around self-absorbed teen who doesn't take responsibility for her actions, even has it said to her face multiple times, but when the season finally asks the question outright "is ismail a bad person" they're just like nahhhhh that's so dramatic!! Of course not Dont be silly. Like that's fucking hilarious they just said sike on their own entire season
there’s something about druck mains and seeking comfort and peace in their faith/culture:
amira m. and all the scenes with her praying and seeking guidance and help re: mohammed/family.
fatou literally wearing her gambian dress as protective “armor” (or snuggly security blanket, if you prefer) in dealing with her stressors at school.
and now ismail going to the alevi cemevi (and as an aside in some ways it’s very distinct from a mosque but still with a similar vibe/aura, especially when it’s about settling the soul and finding that inner peace).
now whether there have been any breakthroughs for ismail is another story but I guess a step in the right direction. and a reminder of the beauty of being able to go back to your roots in times of crisis and use that foundation (culture and community) as a support system when it seems you have no one else.
(Who would I be if I didn’t continue to complain about how eye personally think Sascha / Lou are meaningless characters whose roles could’ve been filled by any of the pre-existing characters sooooo)
Lowkey im kinda bitter cause since they decided to go this route of Ismail meeting David and attending the queer youth club,,, I think it would’ve been so cool if it was actually Fatou who introduced Ismail and David
Like - from the beginning we knew that Fatou was open/out about being a lesbian and I literally can imagine a backstory where she meets David at the skatepark or her job or something before the season starts. And both for her own desire to be around more queer people and to help Kieu My feel “bisexual enough” (bringing back that storyline from last season) they start going to thd youth club together
And Kieu My tries to bring Ismail along for the first half of the season, at first for some kind of support or something and Ismail pretty much resists because that doesn’t seem like it’s something “cool” or whatever. But then finally (remember in my version of events she and Ismail actually have heart-to-hearts about feeling caught between binaries!) Ismail agrees and then meets up with Fatou and Kieu My at the youth center and WAHLA! They meet David
im kinda sad how druck s7 has treated the whole story of Ismail, like brushing up the bullying, not giving a proper time to treat and developed the gender identity storyline, but i guess the writers are just catering to the drama at this point. However, what it is sadder is that some people in the fandom are more mad about a love story (that i’ll be honest i couldn’t care less bc it’s not really well-established one and with all my heart and pls take no offense it feels non-existent -at least from the main’s pov) than actually getting to watch the journey the main it’s going through (i know the writers didn’t put much effort in it but)
now, when it's confirmed that even eren doesn't like this season, can we stop making excuses for shitty writing just because carpenter jesus looks sad?
If I've learned anything from watching wtfock s3 the only thing that matters is how their ship (truly in this case not even the ship, their baby boy) end up
when during the summer people were saying that eren hates s7: first i didn't get it, now I understand
The way ismail literally bullied ava, their friend but half of the fandom think they are "the worst main" and unforgivable now cause they made uwu baby sascha sad
Like maybe think what you are fine with since you were all super excited about their season and what is crossing the line cause ?????
you either die a hero or live long enough to become the biggest waste of potential for any season of a skam character ever…
Skamfr era druck is remarkably less funny than real skamfr
because i‘m sure the druck team forgot it: happy one year anniversary to nora & josh 💗
the fact that they have to use the fat character as a plot device for some growth or whatever is so lame it’s like the 10th time druck misses the point so fcking badly it even makes me wonder if they actually care about what they’re trying to say. if it was any other series, not one that people go around saying it is informative and educational, maybe I wouldn’t be so upset. but just like their treatment of characters that aren’t skinny/white is so very telling. sam, who had no plot outside men, amira who simply had no plot in her own season, ava and the way she is treated by the narrative, how now lou is now a mean to an end and not a character, how finn has no lines whatsoever and how they managed to fck it up a season from a character that had so much potential and not because of a lame love triangle, but bc they were too weak to improve and instead they’re trying to do something that is palatable to their audience… like, i have a lot of complains about druck (see above), but the og seasons at least they were daring to do something new, have mia being an awful person and being called out for it, having the sa* scene not be about a man, the whole third season (outing scene aside), the scene when amira punches a girl, the other scene when amira throws a ball at a n*zi, fkng s5, man, the amount of care and consideration that went into nora’s diagnosis (being someone who’s studies that, i knew it since the beginning what she had bc they actually did a good job), fatou and kieu my being an interacial couple and none of them are white, just fatou learning she has a learning disability (which i still think she should’ve known prior and it would make the season more compelling), ava and fatou’s bond…. like, i’m far from being a druck hater, i even went to another continent bc of them which is wild, but also the best experience of my life. but like s7 actually highlights everything that is wrong with the team behind it (either the writers, the company) and the fandom. it’s fine to disagree, but people in here are so disingenuous and mean and don’t realize how much they hurt others with their racism/fatphobia. i know those things are deeply rooted but how can y’all claim to be so woke and just act like this… it’s like a reflection, you know? this season is as bad as the fandom, bc the moment we showed them we actually care more about some random white boy named william than josh, the moment fatou’s season isn’t trending and people are more concerned about mailin… that’s when they just go the opposite direction. do i think this is tumbledotcomsfandom fault? not entirely, of course. it’s all over the yt, ig, tt… for once, i think we’re not even the worst part of it. but still, it’s very upsetting and so very sad to see something i love and care for so deeply to be reduced to people yelling about the white best friend, completely missing the point many marginalized people are making just bc yall don’t think the sht druck is doing can actually hurt the viewers. not to mention the complete disregard of one’s gender. but this is long enough already.
ok caught up with druck!!! she is disappointing!! first time for everything i guess
looked at some posts in the tag and dipped immediately. personally I think cis ppl and white ppl shouldnt be allowed internet access ur all insane
moving forward, i think it goes without saying that the gender stuff is the only saving grace for this season . i love all the clips exploring that esp the dilemma of not understanding your sexuality bc of ur gender identity + having to force urself to 'pass' as a certain gender for your survival and safety . those two rly hit home for me (as it would for other trans ppl as well im sure) but i would have appreciated a proper trigger warning. what is it with druck triggering me re: gender shit
i actually really like the relationship bw isi and lou i think theyre so cute . if we all just calm down and stop trying to box every relationship into romantic vs platonic vs sexual etc things would be so much easier to enjoy. i love how they're written and how they bring each other comfort . i also love the whole 'wow we should kiss . uh ok that was funny maybe we misunderstood this' trope so much . i do still cringe so much at the whole robin of the hood stuff. what was the reason ... nw i think its such a shame they used lou as a tool for the first few eps . her character is fun and ppl saying shes a bad influence or wtvr r annoying . she does exactly what u ppl would ordinarily praise gay boys for with all that 'haha be gay do crime' shit stfu
also sascha ! i like his goofy ass a lot. he is a very boring character but hes a sweet kid . its funny how ppl r trying to justify him being not boring like! its ok . its ok to admit hes boring and still like him
its obv sascha is the li even tho the writing behind their relationship is frustrating like . i would like to see sascha explode and tell isi to fuck off or sm at some point . and for ava to somehow back-pedal and be like i dont forgive u actually stay Away from me. she deserves infinitely better
that wont happen tho ofc but anyway thats all im srsly bored by this szn and how underwhelming it is esp with how theyve handled the theme re: toxic friendships and consti etc .. also wheres kieu my -_- again
bonus points for lil nas on the soundtrack + isi watching kurzgesagt ! i do that . love the use of music this szn
wish there was more family stuff + alone time . also little kids can be so cruel. also isi's dad is so fine i want him. goodnight
i think y’all are just mad that ismail is defying YOUR OWN expectations and exploring a potential relationship with lou. i don’t care if you don’t like the relationship, remember that there are other people who feel represented by this storyline. just like sascha yesterday, lou affirmed isi’s identity today by not pressuring them to participate in the boys v. girls game. they both are serving a purpose in ISMAIL’s story, his journey. please, leave lou alone. stop tearing her down to lift up sascha. they’re both important to our main.
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