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liking a character from a thing you don’t like

So... TA just literally straight up admitted he doesn't think villains should be likeable at all, aka admitting why his writing for villains who are "irredeemable evil monsters" sucks so much.

"I personally won't go that way anymore, and instead make sure that villains can't be liked, and only provoke strong rejection." (Taking screenshots is more annoying on desktop, but you can literally see it in his reply tab posted a few hours ago.)

Like, villains being likeable as characters (which is not the same thing as being likable as a person and I am absolutely losing my mind over how many people refuse to learn the difference) are literally what makes a good villain. A villain is barely a character (at best just a plot device) if they're not enjoyable to watch.

I can't even say I'm suprised TA literally proved my point.

#ml writing critical #ml writing criticism #ml twitter criticism #ml s5+ criticism

Anyway realistically I think staying on Nazi Twitter at this point is just... not psychologically recommendable. Even before the nazi take-over, the site's algorithm was already set up to boost engagement by figuring out whatever will ragebait and distress you the most, and then constantly throwing that into your face. The user interface was set up against reasonable interactions and actual in-depth communication. I imagine that the nazification of the site and the exodus of most of the comparatively reasonable portion of the userbase have probably made this worse. (But IDK personally, since I deleted the app around that time.)

#there should be way more of a boundary between 'official' fiction creators and their fandoms ANYWAY #shit tends to happen whenever there's not. and the tumblr environment is NOT innocent of this.#but fiction creators using the contemporaty nazi ragebait xshitter as the platform for breaking this boundary is probably THE Worst Option #ah well I hope he gets better soon but unfortunately I kinda doubt it 😔

I really love watching the off-screen version of Miraculous Ladybug! <3

#ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #ml twitter criticism #what do I even tag...?#it doesn't happen quickly! it happens offscreen!!!

genderqueeradrien

many have asked questions such as “what is miraculous ladybug even about” but this has never before been answered. this is because nobody is quite sure. it’s impossible to know

genderqueeradrien

does Anybody know. does anybody have any idea

#we cannot know because it happened offscreen

goldensmilingbird

Is he for freaking real

YEAH BECAUSE THAT'S MUCH BETTER

goldensmilingbird

🙃🙃🙃

#implicitly calling fans stupid for not 'understanding what's written'#when it was in fact just NOT WRITTEN.#TA really is just communicating extremely badly on purpose and thinking it makes him 'smart'#when ppl do not comprehend the extremely poor communication.#because he cannot be actually arsed to write a complex and coherent narrative.#ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #ml twitter criticism #felix salt #TA burning bridges with as many remaining good-faith fans as possible

stingerella

Im so excited for the off screen Chloe redemption where she comes back in s9, apologises and gets forgiven off screen between s9 and 10 and is best friends with everyone in s10

#honestly at this point #I'm also so excited for when Ladybug's hero team defeats Chrysalis and regains the Butterfly Miraculous #but it's all offscreen and the show goes on like nothing happened #and the audience is only told on xshitter three years later!#ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #ml twitter criticism #chloe #or whatever

Oh dang, "it wasn't fast, it was offscreen" is absolutely how the Big Lie emotional fallout/reconciliation arc will go IF the narrative ever allows Adrien to find out anything about his life that Maribug has been lying to him about, isn't it?

#ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #lovesquare salt #abuse apologia #ml twitter criticism #'did Maribug tell Adrien' and 'how is Adrien gonna react' are gonna be in a narrative limbo for three irl years #until TA will reveal on xshitter that it all happened offscreen years/seasons ago #but there's no need to show it to the audience because it 'wasn't important' 🤣😭🤣😭💀💀💀#for legal purposes this post is a half-joke. I remain perfectly aware that it's equally likely that IF there is a Big Lie reveal #the show will use it as an opportunity to emphasise how child abuse victims are just too emotionally volatile-#-to deserve informed choices and full human rights #by making Adrien react 'badly' and pretending he has no emotional resilience despite having been established-#-many times to have soooo much resilience...#and then Maribug will need to 'bring him back to the good side' and it can be pretended that his reaction was the main problem all along.

notannascribbles

chat blanc on purpose this time now. chat blanc on purpose this time yesterday. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. please. plea

#okay so I presume that the 'on purpose' means he actually has agency this time #which would imply not akumatized but rather just Chat Noir doing it?#the world is the gilded cage designed by your abuser especially for you. you gotta break it.#and therefore I am joining the chant circle.#so... cataclysm!#to break free #at first I read this and was like I don't want Chat Blanc on purpose because it would perpetuate the myth-#-that Adrien is too emotionally volatile to handle reality without snapping and therefore the people who-#-are gaslighting him about his abuser are ''''justified'''' to do so...?#despite Adrien having been SHOWN in the story as extremely resilient so many times!! 😭#but 'on purpose' does indicate he would have agency this time? right?#anyway the Gabriel reality needs to go. cataclysm it... like the white void photography dimension from s1!#like the tiger poem but yes YES the catboy is out!#ml s5+ criticism #ml writing criticism #free Adrien

pandaofsecrets

Fandom: Did Félix just... apologize? Astruc: You know, it was really off-screen.

#imagine if Zuko confronting Ozai and apologising to team avatar and joining them just happened offscreen?! 😭🤣#and the showrunners waited three irl years to tell the audience #ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #ml twitter criticism #felix salt

wisteriasymphony

Did Tumblr get word that Félix's apology canonically happened off screen or do I have to be the one to do it again.

wisteriasymphony

I'm going to milk the shit out of that quote. It's funny how his apology is now relegated to the same camp as Alya's apology and Audrey and André's divorce: Off-screen and never worth touching on again. Why does he do this? What does he gain? Does this make you feel smart, Tommy?

generalluxun

He is apparently unable write any sort of satisfying payoff to a narrative arc, so he just skips it. I mean, considering the attempted payoffs we get, maybe this is for the best.

Felix: I did what I had to.

Marinette:ah yes, clearly. I should have known you were in danger. It's my fault. I'm so sorry. Everything you did was justified.

Kagami:Yes, it is as I said, he just does not know how to communicate.

Felix:I'm glad we got that sorted. Now, I need to go make out with my cool azn sentigirlfriend.

Adrien:*coming from the mansion* Hey, anyone know where the Mountain Dew is?

(end scene)

#🤣😭💀#laughing crying #the writing is soooooo bad #this show apparently couldn't land a narrative payoff emotional beat if you held it at gunpoint 😭#HOW is it so bad at this???#is it really just TA wanting to feel 'smart' but not arsed to put in the effort of actual clever narrative cohesion #so he's just trying to make the audience feel confused by making the story incoherent #kinda like how moffat bbc sherlock tried to make sherlock look 'smart'not by actually writing good mystery stories #like... you would expect from a sherlock holmes mystery series...#but rather just by not showing the audience what was going on and then giving sherlock magic mind powers #like... dudes... no #that's the exact opposite of what an author has to do to come across as smart #authors... come across as smart if they can keep the narrative cohesion coherent and the plot making sense...#plot threads coming together and communicating the story to the audience......#this... this is so stupid #ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #ml s5 criticism #felix salt

generalluxun

Let me just say I don’t really care about an apology to Ladybug in the grand scheme of things that much. It’s something that would help his character a lot, but it wouldn’t fix all of his narrative problems. It happening off screen is poor practice in specific because the audience isn’t kept in the loop and is just expected to accept things as they are.

Adrian is just as pressing of a matter in regards to Felix, and yet we don’t see anything where they hash it out or come to an understanding. If they did off screen then it’s just poor writing for the audience, and even then him lying to Adrian undermines any apology he could make regarding the red moon incident as that was also done under the pretense of doing something he thinks Adrian would want. He made the same mistake twice and yet his hypothetical apology to Adrian, possibly happening around the same time, is supposed to be genuine?

It's an admission of how tangled and inavigable the current plot threads are. Who would Felix apologize to? What explanation would he give? The scene itself would beg so many questions that cannot be answered. Would he tell Cat Noir? Would Ladybug forbid him from telling Cat Noir? How would it come off and be in character? How involved in the conspiracy to lie to Adrien would people be?

They don't have the chops/will to do it well, bit instead of owning that and moving on TA needs to gaslight you with 'its not important.'

#LOLWUT #it happened OFFSCREEN and the audience wasn't told for three irl years/twentyish episodes?!#TA want so bad to be like the Nolan of cartoons but cannot actually be arsed to put in the effort of narrative cohesion #he thinks it's just about being confusing and opaque on purpose and then acting like people are stupid #for pointing out that the narrative doesn't make sense #the writing is so bad and the xshitter ragebait is making it worse 💀#please TA get away from the nazi ragebait site I think it's making your mental state AND your writing worse #ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #ml s5 criticism #felix salt #ta criticism #or something #twitter critical #idk what to tag #narrative coheren't

joinmeintimegirlsouls

Are you fucking kidding me!?

erisluna35

For once he gives a straight answer. Call me shook.

#Happy pride month! the headcanon that would have cost TA nothing to just let live has been debunked!#what do I tag this as #marinette #word of god #heterosexuality #I guess since TA loves to feel smart by communicating as badly as possible and then acting like people are stupid-#-for not 'understanding' what he meant #or just changing his mind and gaslighting people that the previous communication didn't exist #he could later just be like the 'no' was only in response to the 'confirmed it already' statement and Mari's actual orientation-#-remains unconfirmed #but who knows #it's all ragebait on the designated ragebait website anyway.

pandaofsecrets

"B-but Adrien will be so hurt if he finds out the truth" is such a shallow, thoughtless take that I simply can't take it seriously.

First of all, people seem to only think as far as "Adrien will have a complete meltdown", but never seem to think about why. Sure, Cat Blanc and Ephemeral exist, but in both of those episodes, the revelation gets unceremoniously dropped on him and exploited in the same moment. Of course he loses it, anyone would. In The Collector, where he's given the information away from Gabriel and his fuckwittery, he takes only a few seconds to collect (heh) himself before locking in. Like, Adrien isn't inherently some fragile baby, he's just in an emotionally unsafe environment, something no one in his life besides maybe Alya seems to be doing anything to help with.

Second and most importantly, it would've hurt a lot less if Marinette just told him in the first place instead of going through this whole brouhaha? Now it's not just his dad being terrible that Adrien has to deal with (something he was already aware of, btw), but also the fact that Marinette broke his trust.

All in all, Marinette embarked on this hare-brained scheme of lying to Adrien for basically no reason.

#I have been saying and will keep saying #that Adrien should have been the one who figured out Gabemoth identity #back when that plot was still ongoing and it still mattered.#he should have been the one who found out and told Ladybug.#the current setup of alm his loved ones keeping Adrien in the dark just like Gabriel would have wanted-#-just doesn't lend itself to any satisfying outcomes.#either all of Adrien's loved ones will keep lying to him and infantilising him and not respecting him-#-for as long as they can possibly get away with it #OR one of them is gonna tell Adrien. which means that he will once again have zero agency in his own character arc #and just be a passive observer of other characters doing things at him.#and everyone will still have treated him Just Like Gabriel Would Have Wanted for at least an entire season #three irl years...#and all the air already got let out of that reveal a long time ago anyway. the narrative tension has been wasted.#it's a narrative band-aid solution because the actual original goal of the story has been wasted and is no longer possible #but at least someone telling Adrien the truth would be the bare minimum of all his loved ones in the know-#-no longer continuing to be in an active state of betrayal against Adrien.#the frog boiled so long ago 😭 the bar has been lowered UNDERGROUND.#[disclaimer: yeah technically Adrien has *some* loved ones like... Nino who aren't in on it with the betrayal-#-but the narrative kinda dropped the focus on their relationship a long time ago...]#ml writing criticism #ml s5+ criticism #the big lie #adrien #garbage moth #abuse #abuse apologism #abuse apologia #victim blaming #yes technically yes Marinette should have told Adrien immediately afterwards #but really the showrunners never should have put the characters into that position to begin with

octaviantheloser

#marinette #adrien

noblechaton

it is funny how Adrien Agreste, costar of a French cartoon show made for 7 year olds, is one of the most lied to guys to ever exist

noblechaton

I don't think a single person he knows has ever told him the full truth about anything ever. he has no idea that he lives inside of a pressure cooker

#adrien #T_T

derinthescarletpescatarian

Yes I ship them. Non-canonically. Yes I know they got together in canon, it was a terrible decision, it made the story much worse. I don't want them together in the story, I just ship them. What's confusing.

#lovesquare

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