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how are we meant to believe that Crowley and Aziraphale would sacrifice each other and the known universe when Aziraphale was ready to merc a child on the tarmac in Tadfield so he and his husband could keep enjoying books and wine
Random thought but God I love Stede Bonnet so much!
I think I figured out why I am on the “I didn’t like the finale “side of the good omens fandom right now.
The ending.
People who enjoyed the ending find beauty and romance in Asa and Anthony finding each other in every lifetime and every universe and falling in love again. Their belief is that the soul makes the person
But I find zero beauty in that. My belief is that memories and experiences and context make people that themselves. Who they are. So for me, it isn’t beautiful that these souls keep finding each other in every universe because the OG angel and demon never got to be themselves together. I don’t find that romantic in the slightest. I find it sad and tragic because everything that made them who they are has been stripped away and is gone forever.
Crowley! Is! Supposed! Two! B! And! Optimist!
Who the fuck was that in S3 and where is the real Crowley?
Crowley's depression
Everyone expected depressed Crowley in S3 because everyone expected Aziraphale made a big enormous stupid mistake by going to Heaven. The Book of Life was supposed to be made up. The job non existent. Aziraphale breaking them up for no good reason. Those were the main theories.
But that's not what happened. Aziraphale did become Supreme Archangel and he did stop Second Coming. He did have a good reason to go and he explains it too. If he had time (and help?) he might have even stopped Michael from getting hold of the Book of Life and destroying everything. If he wasn't relegated to just the side character, he might have made a difference to the ending.
My point being, Crowley is depressed in the finale because he gave up. They made him give up. Not because Aziraphale left. If Aziraphale stayed he would not be happier and Aziraphale knows that. Crowley must have known that. What would they be doing? Watching poor Jesus being paraded by Sandalphon, being forced to judge people on some random, arbitrary measures made up by Archangels who have no idea how Earth and humanity even work? Wait until Universe and Time is destroyed and only eternity remains? Crowley was depressed because the show decided that the universe is not worth saving, can't be changed and should be destroyed.
And I disagree with this Crowley and that ending.
The Crowley I know would have gone to help Aziraphale somehow. Like when he drove to Tadfield in a burning car after Aziraphale got accidentally discorporated and like he did when he realised missing Gabriel was not random and meant trouble.
Crowley knew Second Coming was on the cards and what it meant. He wouldn't have been blind drunk in an alley for years knowing Aziraphale is on his own, with all the awful Archangels who hate him and who tried to kill him in Heaven. He would have found a way.
They should have found Jesus and brought him along to argue with mother and fool her at her card trick. They should have brought along some humans who would look at them like they are crazy for suggesting to not bringing the universe back and fight for it. Mrs Sandwich should have unloaded that speech at god and not the angel who tried so hard to hold it all together.
They should have kissed against the bookshelf while Jesus and Adam decided to get rid of the sides once and for all, cross out what was written and let the universe run for as long as it felt like it.
Depression is a bitch and can come on for all kinds of reasons and non reasons alike. But that's not what the story has done. It is a plot device. They made Crowley miserable because it served the ending they wanted. Because it served ruining the love story and story of hope that Aziraphale held onto for so long. That we all believed in.
The finale really made it seem like Crowley was the sole protagonist all along. Aziraphale even says it himself, that everyone else was just a character in a book, but Crowley was special.
And I got the feeling that through the series, and especially in the finale, Crowley was becoming more powerful and important, compared to how him and Aziraphale were portrayed in the book.
Crowley got the ability to stop time, he’s implied to be one of the Archangels, he makes the stars. None of this is in the book.
In the book they were equal, just two beings who happened to be thrust into similar circumstances, but in the series Crowley is much more important and powerful than Aziraphale, and the finale drives this point home. Crowley was right, he can do no wrong, he doesn’t have to apologise for anything, he’s God’s favourite little guy, he’s just so special and perfect.
Meanwhile Aziraphale is portrayed as a bumbling idiot, in the end gets insulted by God, and doesn’t get a single complement, not a single thank you from Crowley for trying before they both die.
This series favouritisim of Crowley was easier to ignore, when I thought season 3 would even out the playing field, and show that Aziraphale’s sacrifice was valid, but now I can’t stop thinking about it.
Yes, oh my God.
Poor angel gets fucking insulted by God!  Crowley never gets called out for literally wanting to abandon earth and fuck everyone else. His constant wanting to run away is romanticized and glorified.
The whole point of Aziraphale and Crowley in the book is that they are both two mid-level field agents who don’t want to do their jobs and want to fuck off and hang out with each other. There’s not supposed to be a huge power imbalance between them. That goes against the very purpose of them as characters. 
Exactly this! I especially see the imbalance in their characters in how the narrative (and the fandom by proxy) treats their choices.
After S2, there was so much anti-Aziraphale rhetoric, so much black-and-white thinking, for such a "shades of gray" situation. Crowley wanted to prioritize them over humanity, whereas Aziraphale was the opposite, believing that things could be changed for the better (that he can make a difference!) when Crowley thinks they can't. (Which, if you think about it, also goes against the book and Crowley's eternal optimism, but that's a whole different conversation).
And then, rather than have the two of them have an actual conversation about all of that, the finale just has Crowley do a sudden 180 and put humanity first despite having no real development whatsoever, and meanwhile, Aziraphale is entirely villainized by GOD HERSELF and is consistently portrayed throughout the whole finale as being wrong for going to Heaven, when he had only been trying to make the right choice for ALL of the world.
Aziraphale went to Heaven not to spite Crowley, not because he was in the wrong, but because he was trying to do THE RIGHT THING. He set aside everything he wanted for the sake of humanity, and tried so hard only to be treated like shit. And yes, he made mistakes along the way, but he is not the bad guy that it all seems to make him out to be. And where Aziraphale and Crowley are supposed to be equally flawed individuals, there is a massive imbalance in the writing that should not be present. Like OP said, this IS prevalent throughout the series as a whole, but especially in the finale and ESPECIALLY when it comes to who was shown to be "wrong" and who was shown to be "right".
One of the most disappointing parts of all of this is that S3 comes so close to Aziraphale and Crowley actually talking about this, like in the Bentley and in the bookshop at the edge of the universe, but they never do, and everything remains unresolved while Aziraphale is painted out to be the bad guy and Crowley as the tragic romantic with no flaws except for a newfound gambling problem, apparently. Even in the scene in the Bentley when Aziraphale starts saying why he had gone to Heaven, and that he had gone for Crowley and for everyone, and Crowley interrupts him to lament about Alpha Centauri. It's unbelievably poor writing and honestly just makes Crowley look like an asshole. It is so painfully obvious in everything that Aziraphale does that he wants to help people, that he wants to help the world, and not only does Crowley not acknowledge that, NO ONE does.
The absolute annihilation of both of their characters in the finale is astounding, and truly makes me want to believe the conspiracy theory that NG wrote it this way to spite us all.
The finale really made it seem like Crowley was the sole protagonist all along. Aziraphale even says it himself, that everyone else was just a character in a book, but Crowley was special.
And I got the feeling that through the series, and especially in the finale, Crowley was becoming more powerful and important, compared to how him and Aziraphale were portrayed in the book.
Crowley got the ability to stop time, he’s implied to be one of the Archangels, he makes the stars. None of this is in the book.
In the book they were equal, just two beings who happened to be thrust into similar circumstances, but in the series Crowley is much more important and powerful than Aziraphale, and the finale drives this point home. Crowley was right, he can do no wrong, he doesn’t have to apologise for anything, he’s God’s favourite little guy, he’s just so special and perfect.
Meanwhile Aziraphale is portrayed as a bumbling idiot, in the end gets insulted by God, and doesn’t get a single complement, not a single thank you from Crowley for trying before they both die.
This series favouritisim of Crowley was easier to ignore, when I thought season 3 would even out the playing field, and show that Aziraphale’s sacrifice was valid, but now I can’t stop thinking about it.
Yes, oh my God.
Poor angel gets fucking insulted by God!  Crowley never gets called out for literally wanting to abandon earth and fuck everyone else. His constant wanting to run away is romanticized and glorified.
The whole point of Aziraphale and Crowley in the book is that they are both two mid-level field agents who don’t want to do their jobs and want to fuck off and hang out with each other. There’s not supposed to be a huge power imbalance between them. That goes against the very purpose of them as characters. 
I’ve been trying to articulate for a while why I feel so strongly that good omens has a homophobia problem and I think I just landed on half of an explanation.
The kiss.
I don’t think kisses are necessary to show that two characters love each other that being said…
The fact that the kiss was put in at the very end of season two and then never brought up again in season three despite it being a huge pivotal point for the characters does not sit well with me
It ends up feeling less like a genuine plot beat and more like a shock tactic to make sure that the show got the third season.
Btw this is a great time to pivot to the Book Omens fandom where Crowley and Aziraphale will always canonically be alive and well and dining at the Ritz.
Just enjoying life and dodging work forever. Iconic.
Good Omens 3 could have been an example of not letting evil men have the last word. instead, we got the lashing-out of a resentful creep who should have been cast into the outer darkness.
do I place blame on the writing team and director? assuredly! they were in a shitty situation; they also put bad shit into the world with that finale. both can be true.
but the fact that this evil man was involved at all makes me furious, especially after the lip-service made by production which assured fans that 1) he was out and 2) the (re)writing would happen independent of him.
I’m so goddamn depressed about the finale still. It’s just so bad. When I watched the ending, I thought, surely not, surely fucking not! And then I laughed because I thought that they were going to pull the rug out from under us at the last minute, but no…
What the ever living motherfuck was that!
“are they lovers?” worse. they were supposed to be and never got the chance to
Fuck it I’mma say it.
That finale was homophobic. Like Sherlock levels of homophobic.
Shameful. disgrace. All the disrespect.
In a period where people already feel trapped by institutions, authoritarianism, inequality, ecological dread, etc., it's no wonder the "your only hope is obliteration" ending is landing so badly. A story that once said: "the world is flawed but worth saving" suddenly pivoting to: "burn it down and maybe something better comes after" doesn't hit me as beautiful and profound. It hits me as bleak and nihilistic.
No way I just caught myself thinking "what if next week they release a scret second episode that fixes everything" close enough welcome back johnlock conspiracy
I have a lot of thoughts about good omens and homophobia but honestly, I am too afraid to get into that. One day maybe I shall elaborate, but today is not that day I think