[kimiasblog]

I have no words for this one.

[chaelisaenthusiast]

evermore lyrics that are just undeniably gay:

champagne problems:

One for the money

Two for the show

Need I say more?

gold rush:

Also:

What must it be like to grow up that beautiful.

This isn’t something you’d say about a man. Also it reminds me of that feeling when you’re sapphic and have a crush on someone and want to be them and with them at the same time.

happiness:

I guess it’s the price I pay for seven years in heaven.

Her relationship with Karlie really is the only plausible explanation for this.

dorothea:

Selling make up and magazines

Ooh, from you I’d buy anything

The entire song just screams gay but guess who is a super model and the face of make up brands and on the cover of magazines

long story short:

Right down the rabbit hole

Dianna Agron smack cam in 2020…didn’t expect that but here it is.

So that’s it for now…feel free to add things I’ve forgotten….this album is too gay to put it all into one post

[whatiwillsay]

I Know Places is about Dianna Agron: a compilation of receipts

Yeah yeah I know Kimby Kloss liked a tweet that said it was a Kaylor song but Kimby Kloss is dumb.  She likes just about everything that is @ed to her including this Alice in Wonderland tweet which proves she is actually a Swiftgron shipper:

Ok kidding aside let’s be serious now.

She also has liked a bunch of Ivanka’s posts on IG:

YES EVEN A PIC OF TRUMP

so i think we can all conclude that Kimby is just a dumbass with a social media account(much like the person that runs this tumblr) and not some brilliant social media mastermind hiding secret truths in her social media posts.  she just likes stuff that people tag her in, it’s not that deep, and if we read TOO far into her social media activity then we can conclude she’s fucking besties with ivanka trump.

Let’s set all that aside.

I know I know places was recorded in january 2014 but i think there’s a very good chance she had written it well before the recording session.  Here’s what she said on the voice memo for the song:

“I sent this voice memo to Ryan Tedder because I’d always wanted to work with him, and finally we scheduled some studio time. So I always wanna be prepared. I wanted to send him the idea that I was working on before we went into the studio just in case he wrote back and said “I can’t stand that, I wanna work on something else, think of something else”. “

So we know she had the first draft of this song before January 22nd when she recorded the final version of the song.

Furthermore we know Taylor was still processing her relationship with Dianna through all of early 2014.  She wrote Style and Clean about Dianna in February 2014 and we know she was trolling the Glee set sometime in early 2014 still looking for her.

I don’t think anything serious happened with Karlie until March 2014 (”something happened for the first time in the darkest little paradise…trip of my life!…now i’m your daisy”) on the Big Sur trip.

When Taylor explains the song she likens it to Out Of The Woods which we know is about Dianna:

Furthermore Taylor easter egged the “they are the hunters we are the foxes” lyric when she went out with Harry in late 2012 with her fox shirt.  I think she had already written that line and wanted it to be tied back to him (the same way she had “your necklace hanging from my neck” tied back to him, along with dozens of other eggs Taylor is infamous for planting):

If that line was conceived in 2012 then the song is undoubtedly about Dianna (or you know, Harry, if you’re an insane hetlor that still enjoys this blog.)

In the Taylor Swift Cinematic Universe, Dianna canonically has Green eyes.  They are mentioned in Everything Has Changed, and of course the most Dianna song in the history of all music, Wonderland.  

I don’t know what eye color Karlie is supposed to have but if you think Gorgeous and Delicate are about her then Taylor sees them as blue.  

I Know Places is actually very similar, thematically to Wonderland.  They’re both songs that make heavy mention of other people’s take on a relationship.  

As with most songs on 1989 with the exceptions of the non romantic songs, and YAIL + Wildest Dreams, I Know Places is a Swiftgron jam.

[whatiwillsay]

how do you know all too well was written before?

there’s a copyright for it claimed in 2010 and this:

[whatiwillsay]

cardigan is about Dianna Agron

So like many of you when I first heard cardigan I though “ok obviously this song is about about Karlie Kloss or perhaps Joe/The London Lover” but since this July we’ve gotten lots of new info.

First of all, Karlie is now pregnant with her husband, essentially proving once and for all that whatever Kaylor was it’s over.  She likely conceived over the summer so we know Kaylor was over then as well.

Secondly, Taylor seemed to confirm that Karlie did betray her to Scooter as suggested by her friends Ashley and Claire and Super Swiftie Spencer Pratt (who received a cardigan) with the song It’s Time To Go with the lyrics “When the words of a sister come back in whispers / That prove she was not in fact what she seemed / Not a twin from your dreams / She’s a crook who was caught”. 

Given that Taylor is releasing absolute drags about Karlie in her contemporary music I really don’t think she’s saying anything as sweet as the sentiment of cardigan about Karlie right now.

Here’s Taylor’s own words about the song: The song is about a lost romance and why young love is often fixed so permanently within our memories.  Why it leaves such an indelible mark…This is a song that’s about long lost love, and looking back on it and how special it make you feel, all the good things it made you feel, all the pain that it made you feel.”

So this seems to point to the idea that Taylor is drawing on an old, past love as inspiration for this song, so not Joe/the London Lover.  The permanent and indelible mark she seems to reference sounds very specifically like the lyric from This Love, a song written in 2012 that is almost certainly about Dianna when she says, “This love has left a permanent mark”

Let’s look at some lyrics before we jump into social media clues.

“When you are young, they assume you know nothing“ -this sounds like the warnings Swiftgron had to endure that Taylor talks about in Wonderland.

“A friend to all is a friend to none Chase two girls, lose the one“ -this sounds like Taylor is lamenting the Swiftgron/Kaylor overlap that occured.  A friend to all is Karlie who said Kim K was a lovely person after the kimye incident and sold Taylor out to Scooter.  Taylor went after Karlie instead of trying to work it out with Dianna as evidenced by Taylor going to the Glee set in early 2014, after she had met Karlie already.  (Check out @swiftgronmasterpost​ for receipts on all of this)

Also “lose the one”, I believe The 1 is about Dianna so that would track.

“But I knew you Playing hide-and-seek and Giving me your weekends, I“ -this makes me think of how DIanna was working full time on Glee when Swiftgron met and wouldn’t have had much time for Taylor except on the weekends.

“I knew you Your heartbeat on the High Line Once in 20 lifetimes, I”- yes the High Line is a place in NYC and is easy to tie back to Karlie, but Swiftgron hung out in NYC a good bit too in April right around when they first got together and December of 2012 as well.  It’s very possible they went up to the High Line and spent time together, just as they fell for one another.  Since Taylor is dragging Karlie so harshly I just can’t believe she’s referencing her in such a sweet song.

“To kiss in cars and downtown bars Was all we needed“ -there’s rumors that Dianna and Taylor would go out to bars in disguise.  I also have pointed out that Taylor references cars in a lot of Dianna songs (in which they’re driving) because you drive in LA whereas in NYC you walk.  I doubt anyone is making out in front of Taylor’s driver so if they’re kissing in cars I say it’s happening in LA.

“I knew you Tried to change the ending Peter losing Wendy, I” -Dianna referred to herself as Peter on her website You, Me, and Charlie

“I knew you Leavin’ like a father Running like water, I“ -Dianna supposedly left Taylor a time or two as they went back and forth in their relationship.  Taylor also uses water imagery heavily to describe Dianna in Clean, This Love, and HYGTG

“But I knew you’d linger like a tattoo kiss” -Dianna has tattoos (Karlie does not)

“The smell of smoke would hang around this long” -Dianna smokes (Karlie does not)

“And you’d be standin’ in my front porch light And I knew you’d come back to me You’d come back to me” -this sounds very much like the plot of the song HYGTG which is almost certainly about Dianna as well.

“And you’d come back” -we have good reason to believe that Dianna and Taylor are now friendly and on good terms since Dianna showed up at SNL and was counted among Taylor’s “inner circle” at the after party.  If they are indeed friends like the evidence suggests, in a way, Dianna did come back to her!

Ok now onto some social media clues.  It should be noted that these are ALL reaches except for the last two.

Since Folklore came out Dianna has been showing up more and more in jeans.  The song says “dancing in your levis” which had me thinking it wasn’t about her because while Dianna loves to dance, she hardly ever wears jeans.  However in the fall of 2020 she has shown up in jeans again and again, even leading her best friend to comment on it in one point:

Dianna added a star to her IG name for a while:

which seemed to match Taylor’s IG bio with the lyric “you drew stars around my scars” a lyric from Cardigan:

Another fun note is that Cardigan is “Betty’s” song.  Betty is short for the name Elizabeth and Naya used to call Dianna Elizabeth Taylor because she was so “fancy”

Dianna even reminded us of this with a post with a quote from Liz a couple days after she publicly streams cardigan:

The day Folklore came out Dianna’s ex husband Winston posted the lyrics:

now Winston does not seem to like Taylor, although Taylor is a fan of his band and featured his bandmate Marcus Mumford’s vocals on evermore.  I think it’s possible Winston was being shady and trying to spill the secret.  He and Dianna were split up by this point but I think some of the lyrics may have clued him in to know the song was about her and he wanted to point it out in a petty way.

And of course the grand finale…Dianna herself publicly streamed the song on her spotify on October 27th, 2020:

Who better to let us know the song is about her then the muse herself?

And with that I rest my case, and I will officially be adding cardigan to my songs about dianna agron playlist on spotify.

[thestateonmtv]

I have a lot of twisted and knotted thoughts about gayness in Taylor’s music but it’s never been about her personally being a lesbian or not. I’m a grown woman and her being “gay” would have little to no material effect on my life. I don’t need “representation”. But I talked about this with my friend like months ago where we connected DOTS .... and like relationships between women in history are rarely recorded or taken seriously... like Taylor comes across as someone who pioritizes her relationships with other women whether she’s fucking them or not. Like her “friendship” breakups (dianna, karlie) seem intense. ITS JUST LIKE 👁 EVEN IF ITS NOT GAY IT IS. Like My Tears Richochet being a confirmed “friendship” BREAKUP song. whatever happened between Taylor and Dianna or Taylor and Karlie seems gay bc even if they didn’t fuck they got overinvested in their relationship and had some kind of intense falling out. Which isn’t how the narratives about platonic relationships between women are supposed to go. So when people are like “Taylor’s music isn’t gay at all” it’s like it’s not about Taylor being a lesbian who eats pussy or not it’s that ur delegimitizing how intense relationships between women can be lowkey. People are like if women don't do something for the purpose or consequence of it being seen then it didn't happen. Like if u don’t understand this then maybe this reading ISNT FOR YOUUU. Also just how many of her songs are like about “secret affairs” and “love that can't last in the daylight” it’s like even if it’s all unintentional the songs do lend themselves to lesbian readings and it is fun to take this image of Taylor Swift the heterosexual boy serial dater and make her songs about lesbianism and it’s not insane to do that. If Taylor is straight then it doesn’t take away from her songs bc that shit is still there in them. And the swiftie fandom is all about female homosocial bonding. Anyway women are soooooooooooo . Interesting and complex and attractive and I get to spend my life foraging relationships with them ❤️

[bisluthq]

Would you mind sharing your thoughts on Coney Island and it's Taylor/Joe meaning, especially with the line about not making him her centerfold. I can't help but think centerfold must be a reference to Karlie

So Joe co-wrote it, right. For me, one of the big shifts this era has been him kinda stepping into the light with her. Like he’s no longer this invisible muse you can ignore. He collaborated on both - writing for both, and now even playing piano. The willow love interest looks like him in the reflections at the start. She really hyped up his contributions in the doccie. And some of y’all said “oh that’s so weird” but in relation to Coney Island I legit don’t think it is.

I’ve said before that Joe probably planned to be famous. The shit she has said about how normal he is... her projecting. You don’t take a starring turn in an Ang Lee movie and feature in magazines that call you the next big thing and then suddenly... stop wanting that just because your girlfriend asked you to. Like he took a conscious step back (Sense of an Ending, after Billy Lynn, was a fucking choice). But in that alma mater interview all he could talk about was fucking Billy Lynn. And idk I think eventually it all got tiring. Like being Mr Taylor Swift - this invisible joke “muse” - probably ended up feeling pretty shit.

Having her fans - not just Gaylors - see him as just an extension of her, like even the ones who are obsessed with him “rescuing” her know fuck all ABOUT HIM and idk I don’t think that felt nice.

So I think to me Coney Island makes sense for that background and is probably them dealing with it and working through it - hence writing it together. “What's a lifetime of achievement / If I pushed you to the edge? / But you were too polite to leave me” sounds like it could legit be those two. Her lifetime of achievement pushing him to the edge but he was kinda too nice to do anything about it for a while. Also “But when I walked up to the podium I think that I forgot to say your name” - she has very famously never given him a s/o. With quarantine these are things they probably talked about.

And him writing depro ass exile and apology anthem betty also fits this stuff.

She tweeted that thing about how it was “the cruelest summer” also. So idk. They could’ve had issues this year. It really does make sense.

Final point: for me Delicate was always for Joe/London Muse so that reference also supports it.

Hope that makes sense! HMU.

[but-im-still-trying-to-find-it]

tolerate it is about a homophobic parent and that is a hill i’m willing to die on 

[whatiwillsay]

What are your thoughts on kaylor and the masters and scooter? Bc I can’t imagine Taylor would go anywhere near Karlie now knowing she can’t trust her.

i mean first off obviously i don’t know for sure

but given the fact that ashley and claire liked the tweet about karlie accidentally betraying taylor to scooter and then unfollowed karlie like i’m sorry i can’t not come to conclusions based on that.

and the fact that both perez and specner pratt talked openly about how karlie ended up being bad news for taylor in the end and then both received cardigans??? (click here for receipts)

i don’t know

some people say “oh it’s just taylor marketing folklore she doesn’t actually like those guys”

like...nahhh folklore was a smash hit and she sent cardigans out to tons of WAY WAY WAY bigger celebs than perez and spencer pratt like she did not need their tiny fanbases to get folklore to #1.  felt more like she was sending a message...

also claire and ashley DO NOT clout chase, they are low key people and long long long time friends of taylor’s and are still friends with her to this day.  they are not out here playing games or being used as pawns in ornate pr schemes.  they have a tiny bit of celebrity but both in general are just civilians.

but in the end, i do not know for sure.

maybe there’s just weirdness going on.

if kaylor is together i hope they’re happy and that karlie gets the fuck away from josh soon.

[whatiwillsay]

all the pushing of joe makes so much sense now, evermere is gonna be gay AF and she needs the WB to be able to write about as many women as she pleases! safety net

let’s wait and see but i have a sinking feeling you might be right and then i’m not gonna know how to act

[jennyboom21]

“We’re All Thinking It” (v2.0)

[yellowandstripes]

Yup we’re all thinking it alright. Cant tell me otherwise.

[bisluthq]

I dont think Tay had any input over that babe video. They probably followed some generic script. But the paralels pointed on that thread are uncanny.

Lmao @swiftgron-get-married this is for you hahaha

(I also think it’s mostly coincidental and I think Tay’s character references Christina Hendricks’s from Mad Men)

[whatiwillsay]

can your anons not read reppie?

https://people.com/country/taylor-swift-sugarland-babe-music-video/

it was taylor’s idea

it’s not a coincidence it’s a complete ripoff in which taylor stretched the song out by one minute and four seconds to make even the time stamps match

look babe is 3:45 long

but the music video is 4:39 long🤔🤔🤔

what else is 4:39 long???

some similarities...

opening shot

kiss goodbye (at almost the same timestamp):

similar shots at the same timestamp:

and again:

and again (these are also basically the stills used for the mv before you click play):

both women driving at the same fucking timestamp (y’all taylor swift is insane holy shit):

in the store shopping at the same fucking timestamp no she is literally unwell someone get her into a facility now:

cheating happens at the same timestamp (seriously tay get help✌️)

here’s another similar shot of my babies at the same timestamp;

cheating husband coming home, same timestamp:

very similar shot of the husbands walking up to the door at the same fucking timestamp (i get it taylor you’re laughing at us from the prison cell now):

similarities that happen at different timestamps:

wifey drinking out by the pool:

wifey fiddling with ring:

cheaters drinking it up together:

wifies drinking it up as well (several times both in the mv):

wives do away with the husband’s clothes (dianna burns them while jennifer dumps them outside in the front lawn):

pretty much the only thing that’s different about the music videos is the ending.  the babe cheater gets dumped while dianna takes her cheater back but ofc we know how taylor likes to change the endings (like she did with love story) or at least to try to change the ending (peter losing wendy)

so yeah it’s not just that she wrote this song back when she was “friends” with dianna, it’s not just that the music videos are the exact same time stamp even tho the songs are different lengths, it’s not just that dianna posted to instagram about having commitmentent issues two days before babe came out, it’s not just that we know for a fact taylor pitched this music video idea, it’s not just that it’s basically a shot for shot remake of a music video that dianna starred in with multiple matching shots down to the timestamp and tons of other matching factors...but when you add it all together i’m sorry but it’s literally the best swiftgron proof in existence and yes that includes wonderland.  nothing tops babe.

[whatiwillsay]

Wasn’t there a rumour that one of JK's investment vehicles may have helped to finance initial masters purchase, which means Josh (and therefore also Karlie) might also be part owner of Taylor's catalogue - this would explain MTR and even a bit of Hoax, and the sudden massive shift of Taylor during Lover era

i don’t think it’s a rumor i think it’s a fact that ithica funded the carlyle group @swiftiesleuth you keep up with the kushners and that part of the timeline better than i do is that the case?

[bisluthq]

Yeah it is a fact, Josh was involved from a financial standpoint lmao

[whatiwillsay]

HOW IN GOD’S NAME DO PEOPLE THINK KAYLOR IS STILL ON😭😭😭

[whatiwillsay]

I never realised how much safe and sound fits into folklore so perfectly, like even with the aesthetic of the music video and everything. Also I’m bored so excuse the clownery, but the cabin in the mv for safe and sound and cardigan are eerily similar. We know Taylor was w Dianna during Hunger Games so cardigan=partly inspired by Dianna confirmed. And of course cardigangate. And weird Winston reference. And Di leaning into cottagecore. And Taylor referring cottagecore. God these two are mental.

my babies are unhinged😍😍😍

[whatiwillsay]

Hi! I'm the anon from @/swiftiesleuth. How much of 1989 is about Dianna Agron?

ok it’s been a weird couple weeks for gaylors so let’s go ahead and do this

1989 Is About Dianna Agron - A Compilation of Receipts:

Part 1 - People in The Know.  This tv writer claim 1989 is about Dianna:

Carina MacKenzie wrote for The Originals:

a guy named Michael Trevino was a regular on the vampire diaries but was also on a few episodes of The Originals.  He dated Glee cast member Jenna Ushkowitz.  Not only that but he was at Dianna’s 26th birthday party (I know he’s saying hbd to jenna but it’s because her birthday is actually on the 28th of April, which is the day dianna hosted her big party (where they probably celebrated dianna, jenna, and harry (whose birthday is also on April 28)

anyway as you all probably know (but if you haven’t check out this part of my swiftgron masterpost over @swiftgronmasterpost) Taylor was at dianna’s 26th birthday party and even performed songs for her in the midst of swiftgron’s most active period.  

do we know for sure if Micheal was the person who told Carina that swiftgron was a thing?  no.  but he did date jenna for three years and supposedly was good friends with dianna.  it’s possible he was in the know and tipped carina off when he worked with her.

now onto a few song receipts

I Wish You Would

Taylor claims this is a song about an ex driving past her house after they’ve moved to a house close to her.  She wrote it while she was on the Red Tour and it was recorded in 2013.

People assume it’s about Harry like most of 1989 but there’s just one problem. Harry didn’t move to LA until spring 2014, when taylor had moved to nyc and the track was recorded in 2013 so how could it be about him driving past her house?

On the other hand, Dianna moved in LA during the summer of 2013:

Green Eyes - there is debate over Dianna’s eye color sometimes, some people claim they’re hazel.  Green eyes are mentioned again and again on 1989 and it’s true that Harry does have green eyes but it’s also 100% true that Dianna does as well.  A few receipts on that are as follows.  Her character on glee, Quinn, canonically has green eyes:

there’s a famous scene where Rachel tells finn to get Quinn flowers with a green ribbon to match her green eyes:

at one point quinn gets a fake ID and the license has green eyes on it:

and Dianna herself gave her own bitmoji green eyes:

sometimes her eyes may appear hazel, sometimes green, but it’s fair to say that dianna identifies as a green-eyed person (and as someone with green-ish/hazel eyes i get it, i like my eyes to be seen as green to me that’s prettier than hazel)

Style

“Ok Cam I hear you on some songs but there’s no way Style isn’t about Harry right?  His last name is Styles!!!” I hear you exclaim incredulously.

and to that i say NO!

@all-my-possessions breaks this down a lot further but there is an idea that based on the timing of the writing of the song taylor was actually inspired by seeing Dianna dressed up as james dean in InStyle magazine in the UK in early 2014 to write style.

read their “rebel with a clue” post here but it boils down to this picture dianna posted:

the caption is “rebel without a clue” which is a reference to “rebel without a cause” a famous james dean movie.  Dianna seems to be saying this photo was inspired by a picture/styling of james dean such as this:

Dianna was featured like this in the February issue of InStyle UK and we know Taylor was in the UK when that issue came out.

she wrote Style shortly after and it’s thought that the “james dean” bit was inspired by dianna’s styling and the name was inspired by the fact that she was in a magazine literally called “instyle”

I Know Places

Gonna keep it brief here but harry and taylor never hid anywhere.  they did blatant pap walks and even went to time square to kiss at midnight on new years.  it does not get more obvious and public than that.  dianna and taylor on the other hand were pretty private.

and the coup de grâce, ofc, is 

Wonderland

Sure hetlors can try to claim harry has green eyes and grew up chessire but...

from my swiftgron masterpost: Dianna’s favorite book of all time is Alice in Wonderland.  She brought it up in interviews all the time, tweeted about it, auctioned off a signed copy of it for charity, her private Tumblr and instagram account are called whosirmesir which is a reference to it, her private Tumblr is filled with reblogs about Alice, and her public Tumblr was called fell down the rabbit hole.

I have a little joke that for a while dianna didn’t have a personality she just had alice in wonderland.  it is so quintessentially her.

here’s a smattering of receipts on that:

girl even had a tattoo with a quote from the book:

as i said her tumblr was called fell down the rabbit hole which is nearly a lyric from the fucking song:

her finsta name and private tumblr name is “whosirmesir” which is a reference to alice:

honestly, she never shuts the fuck up about alice in wonderland.  so yeah i think she has a much better claim to the song than harry.

and lastly, harry and taylor supposedly dated for 2 months from early November 2012 to the very beginning of January 2013.  do you really think taylor is singing all these songs about a relationship that lasted 8-9 weeks?

no.  1989 is about dianna agron and i will not be taking feedback.

i think a couple songs (yail and wildest dreams) are about karlie, and a few more (wtny, nr, bad blood, blank space, and shake it off) are about non-romantic situations but the love story told within the album is 100% about dianna agron.

[bisluthq]

SS Tily does not lay claim to Lover; a thesis

I thought this would take me longer but y’all, I’m done with Part 2 of my Gaylor analyses. Unfortunately this chapter brings bad news for Tily nation. I honestly don’t think many of the songs on Lover are about that relationship. But I also think it’s not as simple as the mainstream Kaylor narrative would have us believe. Let’s dive into this, shall we? 

Keep reading

[bisluthq]

Welcome to a Realistic Kaylor Timeline

Welcome. You’re probably here because you’ve started to think that pop superstar Taylor Swift is… Shall we say… A teeny bit fruity… And you know what? You’re not alone. Many people think that. In fact, over the course of her illustrious career, gay rumors have continuously cropped up linking her to various women. Do I know for a fact that this is what happened? Lmao no. But I (with the help of various friends but mostly importantly @adastrabella) tried to explain what might’ve happened. 

We thank you for reading this Magnum Opus:

1) Welcome to the first “Realistic” Kaylor Masterpost

2) Debunking Joshlie’s Reasons to “Beard”

3) Joshlie starts

4) Back in Tay’s World

5) Kaylor Rises?

6) Things Get Messy

7) Taylor Showmances

8) Kaylor Reunited?

9) Joshlie Back for Good

10) 2016′s Summer of Mess

11) Debunking Late Stage Kaylor Myths

12) Late Stage Kaylor and Beyond

What will the various essays above prove? (Gd I wish there were thirteen instead of twelve because it’d be SO MUCH MORE I C O N I C). Well, nothing seeing as how we don’t know these people. But here’s what we think maybe happened:

My vibe is: Kaylor was real in some way, but Joshlie was very very real and flawed too, making things far more complicated than traditional Kaylor narratives would have had you believe. We’ve only shown a portion of Joshlie evidence - this is the realest relationship I’ve seen online. Kaylor started as a real friendship from a few encounters pre-November 2013, then became a PR alliance to help both girls promotion during the 1989 #GirlSquad era. However, when Joshlie went on break, Karlie and Taylor went to Big Sur together, starting the relationship that would bring us into this mess. It was a hot mess for a few years, until the end of 2016, when, after a summer of spiraling due to Karlie choosing Josh and a number of professional difficulties, Taylor ran away to London and cut Karlie off. Taylor and Karlie have been on different paths ever since, except for the Reputation tour in Nashville, and the Masters Heist, neither of which is a particularly good or happy event for either of them. folklore’s track hoax is for Karlie. Kaylor is now dead and Karlie is very pregnant and having a baby with her husband, Josh. Mazels 🦒 and 🦖!! Taylor is re-recording her masters. Everyone has moved on. Except maybe us (but now we’ve read this, maybe we can too). So.