also srry for the 2nd ask in quick succesion lmao but I was rereading one of my fav fics from yours ("Survivors price") and I just wanted to know if you have more headcannons about Thranduil and Celeborn and how they percieve each other and how people close to them see their relationship?
ngl they facinate me sooo much, like Celeborn pretty much saw Thranduil grow up carefree in Doriath and then change from so much trauma, but still seeing that elfling he remembers running playing with luthien and making Oropher lose his mind when he went missing for too long in one of his "adventures".
they just facinate me soo much i'm so interested in them
Hello welcome back!! No worries at all about multiple asks, I love it so much tbh. Thank you for being so patient for the replys! I'm going to do my best to be calm and normal for this answer but its going to be difficult because i am NOT normal about them. Literally at all. 😂
(Lore sidenote: Tolkien changes his mind several times about if Galadriel and Celeborn were in Menengroth for either of the sackings, be it the Dwarves or from the Sons of Feanor. I personally think there are more examples and supporting evidence of them NOT being there, and so that is what I have adopted into my own little head canon.)
Prince Thranduil Oropherion as he was before Thingol died lives rent-free in Celeborn's subconscious mind every moment of every day. His cranky but still eternally happy and curious younger cousin. The one that knew half of the worlds secrets already, and was so determined to find the rest. That delighted in everything. Delighted to learn, to explore, to experience. The one that was not afraid of anything, who had faith in the world around him. Faith in its goodness. Faith in the goodness of others.
He was one of Celeborn's favorite people, and was loved so so so very dearly by him. Celeborn was one of the first elves to consistently got along with Thranduil (other than Luthian, of course.) and then look around at everyone else all, "What? Like its hard?"
Seeing the Prince Thranduil Oropherion that emerged from the burnt ruins of the city was more heartbreaking for Celeborn than the actual destruction of the city itself. Somehow, it felt more important. More permanent.
A city can be rebuilt, a soul cannot.
But he was wrong. It can, and Thranduil does. It takes decades, but after the war of Wrath, after Oropher takes what is left of his people across the Misty Mountains and to live among the Greenwood Elves, that carefree Prince Thranduil begins to return. Celeborn literally weeps tears of happiness the first time he notices, the first time he sees a glimpse of his little cousin once more.
To Celeborn, Thranduil is proof that not all good things can and have been irreparably damaged by the darkness. No matter what burdens were draped over Thranduil, no matter the hurt, the anger, the resentment, and the hopelessness, Celeborn could still see the same Mischievous Prince of Doriath within him. See the love Thranduil has for the world, and the love the world has for him in return. See the gentleness behind all his pain.
To Thranduil, Celeborn is proof that he has not lost himself. Even if at times the 'real him' is difficult to find, there is something about Celeborn that makes it easier, because Celeborn has always seen the best parts of him so much easier than everybody else every has. Celeborn reminds Thranduil through his general continues presences in Thranduil's life and occasionally through verbal or written encouragement that even though he has been through more pain and suffering than he would wish upon anyone, he has not lost himself. That he will not lose himself, because Celeborn refuses to look away from him. Refuses to stop seeing him. Refuses to let the pain and the anger burry his little cousin.
Even so, I think that Celeborn feels IMMENSE guilt and shame when it comes to Thranduil. For many things and many reasons, logically or otherwise, that all boil down to "I abandoned him, repeatedly, to the mercy of fate. I should have done more, maybe if I had, I could have prevented some of his suffering. I could have protected him. But I didn't. I never did. Every time that I said I would do right by him the next time .... I did not. I never did." His guilt makes it difficult for those that are close to Celeborn to see their relationship as much more than an attempt from Celeborn to alleviate some of that guilt and 'make up' for his actions. Plus, they don't get to see the "Real Thranduil" that Celeborn loves so so so dearly. Galadriel knows that spending time with Thranduil brings her husband peace and happiness, but does not comprehend how or why. Celebrian is probably the only one that really, truly, understands their relationship.
Those close with Thranduil understand it much more, as they get to see the 'real relationship' the two of them have together. They can see the emotional comfort and security that Celeborn brings to Thranduil, they understand that Celeborn is the closest thing to be found during an "I want my dad :(" moment. They see that Celeborn knowns, loves, and see's the ''real'' Thranduil. (Although, some of them DO feel like Thranduil should be angrier for the lack of help that Celeborn offers, but have learned to keep these thoughts to themselves.)
Okay I need to stop bc this thing is getting close to 900 words but I JUST HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT THEM AHHHHHHHH
But if theres anything in specific you want me to expand on, just let me know! 🥰🥰🥰
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