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Harry Styles and Taylor swift relationship timeline (Active and still adding stuff) (Half creds to haylortml on twitte...
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It’s so funny how Treacherous’ secret message is ‘Won’t Stop Till It’s Over’ which is a line from Sweet Disposition by The Temper Trap, and automatically people link it to Jake because of All Too Well, even though the theme of Treacherous does not match any of the events of the Gyllenswift relationship, and the song itself was written in spring 2012 during/after the Haylor fling in April, with the same co-writer as ‘Come Back Be Here’ (which happens to be a song about Harry), and written consecutively in two days along with ‘Come Back Be Here’.
Then we get Harry tweeting Sweet Disposition song lyrics twice in April 2012 during the Haylor fling (April 6 and April 23),
Gets a tattoo of Sweet Disposition lyrics ‘Won’t stop till we surrender’ on 16 June 2012 (which he got the lyrics wrong, but still).
(Not a coincidence that the Treacherous secret message is ‘Won’t stop till it’s over, which is a line right before Harry’s tattoo lyrics ‘Won’t stop till we surrender’)
And Taylor calls the song as her favourite song in an interview in Oct 2012 (during the time when she was already dating Harry), Sure Taylor has liked the song since 2009 but it’s pretty telling that the song is still her favourite in 2012, which also happens to be Harry’s favourite song at the time as well.
Then Taylor approached The Temper Trap at the 2012 ARIAs to get the correct lyrics for Harry’s birthday, which is further proof that the song is significant to their relationship.
At this point we can safely argue that Sweet Disposition has become more of a Haylor thing than a Gyllenswift thing, yet people still scoff at us when we say the song is possibly about Harry…. *rolls eyes* Treacherous being about Harry is just as valid an interpretation as it is being about Jake or John.
Expanded: Treacherous = Haylor?
I know I said I’d be doing a proper Treacherous = Haylor post separately, but fuck it I’m just gonna dump everything here.
Okay first, timeline. I’m gonna expand more on the timeline of Haylor’s April fling with the time that the song was written and how it actually syncs up.
31 March 2012
- Harry and Taylor meet at the Kids Choice Awards.
- Harry tweets this (most likely referring to Taylor lmfao):
5 April 2012
- Justin Bieber invited both Taylor and One Direction to his LA mansion, where they swam and “just hung out”. Bieber told Britain’s Daily Mirror that “one of the biggest artists in the world thinks Harry is so hot, but I have been sworn to secrecy.”
6 April 2012
- One Direction is in New York for their SNL appearance. MTV interviews the boys and they tease Harry about Taylor.
- Harry posts ‘Sweet Disposition’ lyrics on twitter (see post above about why it’s related to Treacherous and the Haylor relationship):
8 April 2012
- Taylor out and about in New York around the same time as the One Direction boys being in the city.
- Unconfirmed sightings with her and a ‘mystery guy’ (Harry):
- Taylor hanging out with girlfriends in New York:
- One Direction and Taylor rumored to be at the Bowery Hotel together:
(Bonus: A Taylor source later told Vanity Fair in 2013 about Taylor and Harry’s April fling as “a weekend where they got really close and he was all, like, ‘You’re amazing - I want to be with you. I want to do this.’)
10 April 2012
- One Direction leaves New York for Sydney, Australia.
11 April 2012
Taylor posts this picture on Instagram with the caption: “Recording for the next album. So happy.” The dress she’s wearing in this photo is the same as the one she wore on 8th April during her rumored date with Harry in New York.
17 April 2012
- Harry reveals to Australian newspaper The Herald Sun that he and Taylor have exchanged numbers and were texting, saying that: “We met in America. She is very talented. She’s very nice … We’re friends.”
23 April 2012
- Harry posts ‘Sweet Disposition’ lyrics on twitter again:
- Harry caught ‘kissing’ Emily Ostilly in Auckland, New Zealand. According to a Taylor source for Vanity Fair in 2013, ‘he texted Taylor while on tour to alert her to pictures online where he was “kissing a friend good-bye.” When Taylor searched for the pictures, she discovered they were “making out with like their hands all up in each other’s hair.”’ Harry and Taylor’s relationship cooled down until they reconnected again 6 months later in September, 2012.
2. Creation of ‘Treacherous’
So based on the Haylor relationship timeline, we’ve established that Taylor and Harry had a whirlwind fling in a matter of 11 days (about two weeks) from 31 March 2012 to 10 April 2012, and then communicated/texted while they were apart until 23 April 2012.
Now let’s go into the timeline of the writing of Treacherous:
Dan Wilson, co-writer of Treacherous mentioned that he wrote two songs with Taylor within a period of two days sometime in spring 2012 (around 1:40 in this video) – the two songs being ‘Come Back Be Here’ and ‘Treacherous’.
Here’s Dan Wilson in another interview in 2014 about writing Treacherous with Taylor:
AVC: What’s the process when you’re writing with someone else?
DW: It depends on how they work. With Taylor, we had been kind of circling around, very much aware of each other’s work for a while. We figured out these two days to work together and she came to my studio super excited and said, “I had an idea in the car.” And she sang me the first three or four lines of it and said, “I want to call it ‘Treacherous’ and maybe the chorus can go like this.” And we were writing the song in 10 minutes and she was just so full of excitement.
Dan Wilson also revealed in this interview that he had to sign an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) with Taylor when writing the songs, so we’ll never really find out who Treacherous is about. (But we CAN assume on our own, and I think a lot of it points to Harry)
I’ve deduced that ‘Come Back Be Here’ is about Harry in this post, therefore there is also a high chance that ‘Treacherous’ is about Harry as well since both songs were written together.
Taylor and Dan Wilson writing the songs in spring 2012 fits the timeline of the Haylor relationship, and Taylor was spotted in the studio recording for Red on 8 April 2012 so it’s very likely they wrote the songs during or after the Haylor fling (most likely after, I’m in the opinion that they wrote the songs in late April/early May).
3. Treacherous = Style 0.5?
What got me on this investigative journey in the first place is because of this post (thanks hun, you helped me a lot), and also because I always thought that Treacherous does not fit the popular opinion of the song being about Jake Gyllenhaal or John Mayer.
First of all, just compare the confirmed Gyllenswift songs in Red (State of Grace, All Too Well, Red, WANEGBT, etc) with Treacherous, and you can see that the events or themes in Treacherous does not match the Gyllenswift relationship at all.
Then we have Taylor singling out Treacherous and IKWYT as ‘being about the same person, in that Treacherous is before and IKWYT is after’ – which is significant because if these songs are about Jake like the rest of the album, there is no need to single them out in the first place, no? This makes me think that Treacherous and IKWYT is about a person who IS NOT Jake.
So now that we ruled out Jake, who else could it be? John Mayer? Okay first of all she really hates John Mayer do you really think she’s gonna waste any of her breath singing more love songs about him after she gone done that magnum opus pissing piece ‘Dear John’ in the previous album? I CAN somewhat see her writing IKWYT about John, but Treacherous?? Nah. I know I’m being a bit harsh but let’s be realistic here… And the secret message of Treacherous does not apply to John Mayer at all, so there’s that.
(Talking about who inspired IKWYT is opening up a whole another can of worms on itself… there can be a solid argument that IKWYT was originally written with John Mayer in mind but I think it sort of morphed into something else later on. But that’s for another time! Let’s focus on Treacherous and Treacherous only.)
It was only when I applied Harry Styles to Treacherous that all the pieces started fitting together. Secret message of the song: ‘Won’t Stop Till It’s Over’ = Haylor related? Check. Timeline of the song creation with the Haylor fling matches up? Check. What about the song lyrics then?
Two headlights shine through the sleepless night And I will get you, and get you alone Your name has echoed through my mind And I just think you should, think you should know That nothing safe is worth the drive and I would Follow you, follow you home… I’ll follow you, follow you home…
I find it amusing that 2 years later, Taylor would go on to write another song in 1989 with similar lyrics and themes as Treacherous, which happens to be…. yup… you guessed it right… Style.
Treacherous: “Two headlights shine through the sleepless night”
Style: “Midnight, you come and pick me up, no headlights”
Treacherous: “That nothing safe is worth the drive”
Style: “A long drive, could end in burning flames or paradise”
Treacherous: “Follow you, follow you home…”
Style: “Take me home, just take me home”
Okay, just from the song lyric comparisons we could tell that Treacherous and Style have similar themes, but let’s confirm things even further with Taylor’s own words about the song:
NPR interview, 2nd Nov 2012 (keep in mind Taylor was already dating Harry by this time):
“I’ve had relationships with people that were really substantial and meant a lot to me, but I couldn’t write a song about that person for some reason. Then again, you’ll meet someone that comes into your life for two weeks and you write an entire record about them.“
For everyone arguing that Taylor couldn’t have possibly written two songs on Red about a mere two-week fling with Harry in April 2012…. here’s proof that she can. And she did.
From USA Today interview, 17th October 2012 (keep in mind Taylor was already dating Harry by this time):
Another track, Treacherous, written with Wilson, is one of the most overtly sexual songs Swift has ever written and includes the line, "I’ll do anything you say if you say it with your hands.”
"That song is about a person that I knew, from the minute I saw him, that it would end in fiery, burning wreckage,” she says. “There’s something about that magnetic draw that doesn’t really let up. You walk toward it anyway.”
The line about Treacherous being the most sexual song on the album is interesting, because Taylor would then go on to write similar risque-ish songs in 1989, like Style and Wildest Dreams, which happens to be about Harry as well.
Then the line ‘it would end in fiery, burning wreckage’ in here reminds me of the line in Style ‘we go crashing down every time/could end in burning flames’… There’s definitely parallels in Taylor’s description of her relationship with Harry with the lyrics in Treacherous, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence.
Taste of Country interview, 22nd October 2012 (keep in mind Taylor was already dating Harry by this time):
I wrote ‘Treacherous’ with Dan Wilson, and we came up with a way to say, you know, ‘This is dangerous and I realize that I might get hurt if I go through with this, if I move forward with you. But… but I want to.’ You know? It’s like that kind of conflicted feeling of it being a risk every time you fall in love — especially with certain types of people [laughs].
That was a song that I’m really proud of, because it’s got this bridge that sounds like a second chorus. It’s got all these big vocals, and it’s kind of the intensity of that moment when you’re deciding to let yourself fall in love with someone.
And again, Taylor is basically describing her relationship with Harry, as we would later find out in 1989.
Other Taylor quotes about Treacherous, albeit unsourced:
I wrote ‘I Knew You Were Trouble’ about the same person. That’s the before and after: ‘Treacherous’ is the before. ‘I Knew You Were Trouble’ is the after. [‘Treacherous’] is a song that I’m really proud of. It kind of covers ground that I haven’t covered before, that feeling of, even if it’s ill-fated, you want to pursue it to the very end. Even if we’re going down, I want in.“
4. Summary:
Okay so NOW we’ve already established that…
Secret message of the song: ‘Won’t Stop Till It’s Over’ = Haylor
Timeline of the song creation with the Haylor fling matches up
The lyrics and theme of Treacherous, as well as Taylor’s words about the song matches the Haylor fling/relationship
Can we NOW finally accept the interpretation that Treacherous COULD be about Harry? I’m not saying it’s definitely about him, but I’m just gonna leave my case here and let you decide on your own….
parallels between love of my life and haylor songs/ relationship
‘take a walk on sunday’
burnt toast sunday’s’
it’s not what i meant to leave you behind’
do i even need to insert the boat pic
‘don’t know where you’ll land when you fly’
‘i wish i could fly id pick you up’
‘in hotels using someone else’s name’
this anon from @britney-sunflower
From an anon about haylor...so she cheated on joe and harry was supposedly with camille....not only this anon, another person also said that
Omg I thought I was the only one who noticed this !! As soon as I heard the lyric I literally searched for that anon who said something similar.. hmm could be true
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HELLOO?!!! have y’all heard the album?!! ughhh well it’s not what I expected 🙄 but I love it !!
could you link me the other parts of the haylor year by year video you made a while back
Sure.
Here’s the 2016/2017 one https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=dj8trcoyEf4&t=1s
2015 moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rykTl…
2014 moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrZYo…
2013 moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWC0O…
2012 moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Wl1…
I spent 45 minutes on these masterpieces 😭
We never go out of style.
This love is alive back from the dead
"swimming in the blue"
"it never snows in hollywood but when we sang it showed us that it could"
"you showed me that 13 can be good"
"you flip me upside down we're both laying on the ground"
Have the trouble lyrics been shared?? I can't find them anywhere
Here you go (I found them under a YT video)
GUYS IVE BEEN LISTENING TO HARRY’s leaked songs and I’m sorry like oml i haven’t been ok since !! like wtf did Taylor do to him?? You can literally hear the pain in his voice wtf 😪.. poor baby 💀💀!! us haylors stay winning tho 😩💋
this is on my instagram.. didn’t feel like reposting it with my tumblr watermark.. follow my insta (haylorswyles.__)
I feel so smart bc I came up with this💀💀
(Don’t take this toooo seriously.. this video was just very interesting and surprising) So I feel like Haylors should most definitely go watch this video asap like omg I was literally shaking. I know these aren’t always correct but some of this shit was literally spot on ! I feel like this video confirmed our theories about harry still loving Taylor . It’s a whole lot of stuff but I recommend for y’all to watch it !
Remember this *heart breaks into a million pieces*
“And I’ll agree baby 😩”
Didn’t feel like putting a watermark..
