Let’s talk about Ilvermorny houses
So I did a lot of talking about this on twitter but I’m going to try to dive into more on it here. People keep asking a lot about how these houses relate to Hogwarts houses and the real fact of the matter is that they don’t. There are patterns, definitely. I asked and got many, many answers re: peoples’ Hogwarts vs. Ilvermorny houses. There are definitely some patterns.
But what I noticed, more significantly, especially form looking at the two different sortings of people I know, is that there can be a relationship between Hogwarts and Ilvermorny houses. In a way, your Hogwarts house can help you understand why you’re in your Ilvermorny house and vice versa. As I phrased it on twitter, it almost seems as though Ilvermorny tells you what “kind” of Ravenclaw/Gryffindor/Slytherin you are.
With Hogwarts sorting, I talk a lot about Sorting Hat Chats and their amazing Primary/Secondary system; a “primary” house is why you do things. The secondary house is how. This lends to the idea that your Hogwarts house is chosen based on what you value. Not necessarily how you act or what your personality traits are (at least not always). In some ways, it seems that Ilvermorny focuses more on the “how.” But in reality, I actually think Ilvermorny just focuses more on personality. It’s a bit more of an even mix between how and why. If Hogwarts is your “this is what I stand for” house, Ilvermorny is your “aesthetic” house. I’ve found myself all day explaining Ilvermorny houses in terms of “vibes” or personalities.
So to start, I’ll break down how I feel about those. Please keep in mind this is just my analysis of stuff and what I gathered based on the people I saw sorted where, what their Hogwarts houses were, the questions/answers on the quiz (that I took 8 times) and the descriptions JK provided.
Thunderbirds seem to be your blaring lights. They’re ambitious and aggressive but righteous and accomplished. These are the people looking to try new things and get out and explore. Maybe they want to change the world or maybe they just want to change themselves. But they leave marks and make legacies. Creative, inspired, leaders, etc.
Chadwick, the character who chose Thunderbirds is noted as being the first in a very prominent family. He wrote books and travelled. He also married a healer, indicating his preference toward softness and goodness.
“Can create storms as it flies.”
You may find your Slytherins here that embody the ambitious element of the house over the cunning side. You may find your Ravenclaws here that tend to be more creative or idealist than other claws in their house. You may find Gryffindors here that are soldiers but only for good, slightly more chaotic good and less lawful good. You may find your Hufflepuffs here that are not quite as level as others in their house but posses the same idealistic nature as Gryffindors.
Horned Serpents are darker, in a way they’re a counterpart to the Thunderbirds. Similarly intelligent and ambitious and creative but more realistic, rational, even bitter. They’re more quiet, more focused, more internal. These are maybe writers or artists, even lawyers or mathematicians. They’re broody or guarded. They know what the world is because they’re smart. They aren’t fooled.
It’s important to note that Isolt chose the Horned Serpent and she so badly wanted to be a Ravenclaw if she could attend Hogwarts. That’s where Horned Serpent’s preference toward scholars comes in.
The snake element makes this a bit different than your typical knowledge based house though. Snakes are cunning, often associated with quieter, darker spaces.
Slytherins you’ll find here are the smarter, rational side of their own house, the side that may be good at strategy and deceit. Ravenclaws here are the more jaded side of their house. It seems that Gryffindor and Hufflepuff horned serpents are a bit more of a rarity, but could perhaps be the members of those houses that are not so focused on goodness. The fact that goodness is so important to both of those houses, may be why finding Gryffindor/Hufflepuff Horned Serpents seems less common. But there is still some goodness here. Remember Isolt’s dedication to saving the boys, her loving relationship with her family. Strangely, it was the Pukwudgie that wanted to turn his back.
Wampuses are similarly dark. Like Horned Serpents they’re realistic and logical. They’re the law, following duty and command with steadfast brashness. That doesn’t necessarily mean heroics. They’re even and smart. They’re focus on strength and physicality, being unstoppable and strong. Gone wrong, they’d take you out without hesitation, because they can. Because they’re strong. Chaos that values order. When there was no wizarding law enforcement, Webster became the law.
It was Webster who chose the Wampus and if you remember, Webster was afraid that nothing called “Webster Boot” would be picked to win. He wanted a name that would win. An animal that would win.
The creature Wampus is noted as being almost impossible to kill, strong and fast.
You’ll find your soldier-type Gryffindor and Hufflepuffs here. The ones that can take orders and follow command. You’ll find your lawful Ravenclaws here, ones that value order and firm rules. The Slytherins here are the more aggressive Slytherins, the ones that would mow you over with sheer strength to win the fight. The Slytherdors, if you will.
Pukwudgies are anomalies. They’re light and caregivers, heart and healing. But they can be begrudging in their loyalty, bitter or tricksters. As such, their intelligence should not be overlooked. There can be a manipulative or self serving element that is combatted by their softness and sense of fun and charm. It makes them good at dealing with people. They can be caregivers or teachers. They’re tolerance and patience even when they hate it. They’re glowy and shine even if overlooked.
The Pukwudgie was chosen by the only No-maj in the family. But a Pukwudgie was an important part to Isolt’s journey.
The Pukwudgie creature is known to hate man kind and be a trickster and yet it was a normal, non magic man that chose the house, and is noted as being the house that values healers.
In Pukwudgie you’ll find most of your Hufflepuffs. These are the puffs that value community and people. The Gryffindors you’ll find here are the ones that aren’t so aggressive with their morality but instead more fluid and understanding. Ravenclaws that are Pukwudgie are your more eccentric claws, ones that value individuality and uniqueness. And you’ll find your very loyal Slytherins here, the ones who can be jaded and pragmatic at times but who still value loyalty first, because although William was turned away by Isolt, he came back and was dedicated to her legacy.
In a way, I’ve almost found that there’s a more direct relationship between hybrid Hogwarts houses and these houses. For example, I’ve found lots of Gryffinclaw Thunderbirds, lots of Slytherclaw Horned Serpents, lots of Slytherdor Horned Serpents and lots of Ravenpuff Pukwudgies. (There are moer correlations than just those but those were some examples). You might say “yeah okay Layne but I’m a Slytherclaw and I got Thunderbird!” Well, that’s what I mean when I say these houses could help show you what kind of Slytherin you are. Slytherins value ambition. So do Thunderbirds. That’s the place where the venn diagram overlaps. You don’t have to look at your sorting here and think it’s wrong or it doesn’t add up. Just use it as a deeper understanding. Another layer to who you are.
Now again, this isn’t to say there needs to be a correlation between Hogwarts/and Ilvermorny. Really there isn’t. In my opinion, it’s a matter of looking at what each of these houses says about you in addition to your Hogwarts House. I hope you find these explanations interesting or helpful. Or not. I accidentally left my notes at the office so I did this from memory. If you have thoughts please send them in message form instead of reblog.
Also I just want to note that I intentionally didn’t read anyone else’s discourse because I wanted to do this just from my own thoughts first.
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