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so on the subject of stolen property, iâve seen various arguments on this point but it is in fact true that inheriting something from a relative, when you know full well that it was stolen, does not make it yours.
this clearly goes doubly so for powerful magical artifacts, and especially for artifacts which are strongly implied to contain part of their creatorâs soul!
you can talk about consequences - maybe the artifact in question has benefits for you, maybe youâre not convinced its rightful owners would use it responsibly - but talking about the consequences doesnât erase the fact that whatever benefits you think youâre getting are achieved through wrongful means.
which is why i, too, think Frodo should have given the One Ring back to Sauron. thief.
Hahahahaha here comes the law student nerd ready to complicate your wonderful post, op.
(Really this is just pretext for me to study for my property final in a week, so thanks yeah)
Because according to the principles of common property law, the matter of who actually owns title to the One Ring becomes really complicated really fast.
Buckle up babes for the pedantic law lecture no one asked for.
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The best part of this is: trust me I guarantee Tolkien knew this much about the Common Law (English mediaevalists end up knowing ridiculous amounts about both Common Law and mediaeval Catholicism whether we want to or not), and indeed if you look at the text, this was relevant to the story.Â
Itâs part of the reason that Sauron is as terrified of Aragornâs potential claim on the Ring as he is of Gandalfâs or Sarumanâs or Galadrielâs - if not more. Because in Middle Earth this shit matters. This is a world where a broken oath will literally bind your unhappy restless soul to the earth in spite of the dictates of the literal creator of the universe (who designated humans as Passing Beyond The World when they die). This is a world where a damn oath is responsible for Everything Thatâs Wrong With The First And Second Ages.Â
Oaths, ownership, duties, rights, things owed and owing: this shit matters.Â
And sure Aragorn is also direct line from LĂșthien, but so is Elrond, and so are Elrohir and Elladan. So is Arwen. But what none of them have that Aragorn has? Is a rightful claim to ownership of the Ring.Â
So much of what Aragorn spends his time in the second and third volumes doing is Establishing Claim - establishing that everything that Isildur owned, he now owns. Why? Because it means he has power that is absolutely needed. âIsildurâs Heirâ isnât a woo-woo floofy-high-concept thing: itâs a literal matter of rights, duties and authority.Â
When he takes the PalantĂr from Gandalf and uses it, his companions are aghast, but he reminds them that he has both the right and the strength to use it - and the Right is actually important. Saruman was, face to face, stronger than Aragorn (never doubt that) and Sauron completely pwned him, but Saruman had no right to the Seeing Stone, no more right than Pippin.Â
But the PalantĂri belonged to Aragorn: heâs not only Melianâs ever-so-great-grandchild, heâs also Fingolfinâs ever-so-great-grandchild, and since the FĂ«onori died out with the poor Ringmaker, the only competition Aragorn could have for ownership of the Stones are Galadriel and Elrond. (And thatâs only if you are going right back to the maker-rights, and ignoring the establishment of the Stones as the property of Elrosâ line rather later).Â
It matters. It changes how power works and doesnât work. Aragornâs status as the Heir is in fact grounded in these ideas, which play a hugely powerful part (in fact the fight over who rightfully owns the Silmaril Beren and LĂșthien brought out of the dark is part of the bloodshed that makes it so that in the end the Silmarils themselves actively reject the last two living sons of FĂ«anor, negating their claim). Because Aragorn is the rightful inheritor of everything Isildur ever had, he can use the PalantĂr. Because he is the rightful inheritor of everything Isildur ever had, he can summon the Dead. And because he is the rightful inheritor of everything Isildur ever had, he stands equal to two of the Ainur, to the oldest member of the Trees-blessed Noldorin royal house, and to his own much more powerful (straight up) relatives as a potential claimant of the Ring.Â
And that is why Sauron is willing to take the chance to catch Aragorn, and (he thinks) ensure his capture, rather than attacking him earlier on when thereâs a chance that (even if Aragorn canât possibly WIN) he could still escape and then bide his time before the next Ring-War and learn to use the damn thing.Â
But. Itâs also important when it comes to Frodo.Â
Frodo uses the Ring twice, and lays open claim once. Both of the times he uses it are on SmĂ©agol, both times overwheming him and in the second case cursing him (âif you ever touch me again you will be thrown into the fireâ). We get both moments from Samâs POV, where the physical reality of Frodo is replaced by an image of him as a much larger figure, alight from the inside, robed in light, and with a âwheel of fireâ at his breastbone.Â
Frodo does not have any genetics (so to speak) more special than any other hobbit. Itâs not like Aragorn vs most humans, where thereâs actually a legit difference because most humans were not, at that point, descended from a Maia. Frodoâs just this guy.Â
The only thing thatâs really special about Frodo in terms of the Ring is that, like Aragorn, heâs the other person who has a viable claim. It would, as it were, have to go to the judges to figure out whose claim is better.Â
And this is why in the moment that he claims the Ring, in the Mountain, Sauron is fucking terrified. Itâs why he drops everything else, even the issue of trying to keep his mindless drone-fighters going, even the maintenance of his actual control of weather, of light, of whatever fight he and Gandalf have going, to get his best servants back to the Mountain now now now now.Â
Because Frodo having an actual rightful claim on the Ring means he can, in fact, use it. Not well, which is why Sauron can paralyse him for that moment it takes for SmĂ©agol to strike (and carry out both Frodoâs demanded oath - âsave the Precious from Himâ - and his Curse - âif you touch me you will be thrown in the fireâ - at once), but he could. This tiny little person is a threat to Sauron, in the heart of his own home, because he has the right to have and use this Ring.Â
The tricky thing about Tolkien is that whatever his flaws (and he has many), the one thing heâs never unclear of is that the concept of right and might are actually separate. Just because you are strong enough to do or take a thing doesnât mean you have any right to do it; and just because you arenât strong enough to enforce your right, doesnât mean it goes away.Â
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They got no names!!!!!!!!
Until they 13 and they play a game and destroy the worldÂ
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I read Hamlet back in high school and to this day my absolute favorite thing about it was when Guildenstern was trying to fool Hamlet into doing something or other and Hamletâs savvy to it but rather than saying âyouâre lying and trying to trick meâ instead Hamlet outta nowhere whips out this flute and tells Guildenstern to play it.
And Guildenstern is all âI dont know how to play a flute, my lordâ
And Hamlet takes a dramatic pause before he absolutely ruins Guildenstern with, âWell thats funny considering you thought you could play meâ
Okay, putting a flower crown on serial killers harms absolutely nobody. When was the last time someone was actually injured by a serial killer, the 50s? Sorry if you think this is a trend, but putting a circlet of flowers on top of a real human being that drove a 5 inch steel knife into an innocent persons beating heart can be qualified as self expression. Learn it. PS. I play reaper in overwatch and talk like solid snake when Im on the phone. I could hack the stock market if I needed to. Bye
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