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zingodraws

Commisshies pls 👉👈

sasasafeier

Ozpin&Team STRQ

darth-khal

Friendly reminder that Blake & Yang are girlfriends 💜💛🐝

jammatown919

Just casually rewatching Blake and Yang vs Adam and it hit me again that when this episode came out, either because they just had to argue about something or because they genuinely are that stupid, some people were trying to say that Blake and Yang were in the wrong for killing Adam. The guy who had tried to kill them both before (as evidenced by the scar on Blake’s stomach and Yang’s amputated arm), stalked them across an entire continent, attacked them, directly threatened their lives when they offered him a chance to walk away, and was quite literally attempting to kill Blake (as in actively raising his arm and running at her with her own weapon) when he was killed. That Adam. And this isn’t even getting into that fact that he is Blake’s abusive ex-partner, who if my math is correct started dating her when she was 14 or 15 and he was 18 or 19 (fairly certain they met at 14 and 18 and according to the DC comics 18 months after they met they were nearing the end of their relationship). Like this dude is an abusive groomer who actively tried to kill them both and a bunch of internet dude bros made him out to be the victim because he’s an angsty “cool” man and they hate women apparently.

There was also a weird argument that Blake was acting in self defense because Adam was running at her directly but Yang was a murderer because she stabbed him in the back, as if she wasn’t making a split second decision to save Blake’s life because she had no idea if Blake was going to be able to land that hit before Adam got to her. Because people hate Yang for getting a complex character arc as an attractive woman but still think Blake is “salvageable”. Which leads into a whole other conversation on how some people’s takes on these characters shows how much they just don’t like for women to be people (god the amount of people who thought Yang was ruined and turned into a bitch because she was too traumatized to be a fun party girl after volume three)

I’m not saying everyone who dislikes Bumblby hates women but there’s definitely a loud portion of Bumbleby haters who seem to hate it out of pure misogyny because there is no other reason to work that hard to blame women for defending themselves from a man.

lovingdabeessss

YANG IS SO BABY SHES WAS SO WORRIED SHES SO HAPPY RUBYS ALIVE AND OK AND HERSELF

Ruby’s just trying to be cool and badass fighting the cat

And Yang is just like:

I love them so much

oonicornflower

The way Cinder acts in s1-3 is so funny. The unceasing bedroom voice, the knowing smirks, the "oh Roman, you'll know when you need to know..." all because every single step of her plan is going off without a hitch - the only situation she can handle. And the SECOND something goes wrong, the facade shatters IMMEDIATELY and we can see the angry, pathetic rabid wet cat she was the whole time.

bloodraven55

just heard yang's "what if i needed her here for me?" in the japanese dub for the first time and took catastrophic emotional damage all over again

bloodraven55

in case anyone's curious about how the dialogue differs slightly here's the best back translation i could manage by ear

#this is like 38 9/11s to me

sir-adamus

that post i made about Jacques being used as an effective narrative tool to mask how bad Ironwood actually is has me thinking of how this extends into the Atlas arc

because again through most of volume 7, Jacques continues to be a despicable slimeball out for his own benefit, yet his criticisms of Ironwood are never wrong (even if they're not well intentioned), and a point of contrast is that Jacques at the very least was willing to invite Robyn to debate while Ironwood refused to speak to her point blank until forced into a room with her and clearly saw her winning the election as an equally bad option to Jacques winning (because regardless it meant he didn't have majority power in the Council anymore)

but right as Ironwood is forced into a corner about his shady actions, Weiss bursts in to reveal that Watts helped Jacques rig the election - so the issues with Ironwood again go unaddressed because everyone's focused on Jacques being the bigger asshole in the room again, and it's all neatly forgiven when everyone finds out the true reasons for his Amity plan. right?

and then Jacques is arrested and essentially out of the plot for the rest of volume 7 and to be honest most of volume 8

which neatly coincides with Ironwood flipping his shit and becoming the main villain for the rest of the arc - the reveal was on its way, so Jacques wasn't needed as that smokescreen anymore

so Jacques' use for the rest of the arc in his handful of appearances are to showcase just how bad Ironwood actually is

when we first see him, he's in a holding cell adjacent to Qrow (at this point an accused murderer - also i just remembered when he retrieved Harbinger, Clover's blood had been cleaned off it, so Atlas had already destroyed the evidence), Robyn (who was arrested for... actually no reason. there was never a warrant for her arrest, she was just locked up because she was there and Ironwood doesn't like her, i guess), and Watts (who has done far more damage than anyone else). Keeping in mind that Jacques is an untrained civilian

these scenes also show that Ironwood is having Watts dragged off and tortured to comply with Ironwood's demands (a stupid plan which pretty much immediately backfires on him)

and then Jacques' final scene is him morosely being the bigger man between him and Ironwood by at least having the decency to admit that they both lost. and then Ironwood vaporises him just because he's there and he doesn't like him

you really have to work to make the death of a despicable hate sink like Jacques a tragedy, and it's done by establishing that while Jacques doesn't have a problem sinking low to get ahead, Ironwood has no problem diving straight off the deep end, becoming more despicable, not even to get ahead but to ensure that the only plan that can work is his because of his desperate need to be the "hero"

sir-adamus

the reason Jacques' death comes off as tragic and sad is because it doesn't feel proportional or deserved - he was a horrible abusive husband and father, a corrupt racist businessman and his willingness to collab with Watts definitely got people killed. but he wasn't killed by anyone he wronged, he wasn't killed by his own actions catching up with him. he'd already lost, caught and arrested by his own daughters as a result of his wife taking action against him, his actions had already caught up with him and he'd clearly accepted that - and then he gets atomised by a man he once called friend who isn't even doing it for any other reason than to be petty

feifiefofum

i don't get you ironwood stans

like, crwby pulled off one of the coolest narrative tricks ever, and you lot are bitching about it.

from the get go, james ironwood was a fascist little cunt. did we just collectively forget that he usurped ozpin from his council appointment in vale? as in he (an outsider to vale, from atlas) messed with the internal politics of another nation. that's some major 'things better go my way or else'. and his way is always, always a military build up and presence.

which then contributed to the fall of beacon. there was already a two pronged assault going on, what with the grimm and the white fang, but a third unexpected prong from ironwood's tin soldiers is definitely not helpful.

so from the beginning, crwby introduced ironwood's flaw- his my way or the highway mentality, his tendency to crash out. and then they continue to their narrative trickery- by having jacques shnee be his harshest critic.

not that anyone could be a jacques schnee fan- but the dude was not wrong. he's in it for his own profit margins, but he does call out ironwood's iron fisted rule over atlas and mantle. he does call out his dictatorial tendencies.

and so, the fndm, who likes weiss schnee, and hates jacques schnee is more likely to dismiss these critiques. we're more likely to chalk it up to his lien-grubbing tendencies. this was wrong of us, but so effective. it furnishes us with information about james ironwood, but since that info comes from a poisoned well, we tend to dismiss it. that's so good, to obfuscate and deliver critical character info like that is insanely talented. i mean, by the brothers, the tree and the smith.

another thing they did was have james ironwood overcome the character flaw of ozpin. he shared info with his subordinates, expanded the circle of trust that ozpin failed to do, time and again. and since we, the audience focused on ozpin's critical fails for the last 3 volumes, seeing james casually overcome this flaw tricks the audience into trusting him. because he overcame a flaw! unfortunately, it just wasn't his flaw.

remember, his flaw was his fascistic tendencies. his way or the highway. or, y'know, shooting mouthy kids. you can't just overcome some other character's flaw and call that character development. those writers' were obfuscating so hard, they pulled the wool over our eyes completely.

and you ironwood fans fell for it! hook, line, and sinker! i'mma be honest, i was cheering for him too in series 7, but halfway through, you were supposed to remember that he didn't overcome his own character flaw but ozpin's. and as much as we would like to, we can't just fob off our character development to others. you have to do it yourself. and ozpin does. he comes back, apologizes and shares pertinent information.

crwby successfully pulled off an incredibly narrative trick. and you're crying about it?? that's so weird. you cheer for this shit. hats off to a trick well done. this is writing on steroids.