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This pains me

Edit: part two here (link) , I may get around to the other girls (that’s not a promise however!)

If you enjoy this rant comic I made messily, please consider looking at my other art that has more love and attention to it as I did not think this quick rant comic of all things would’ve gotten me over 4 thousand notes as of writing this edit (I appreciate it)

Trafalgar Law's awful, fuzzy hat has a ridiculously round shape and fullness that eBay/Amazon sellers can't seem to achieve yet. This length

the-upper-shelf

Don’t mind me, just praticing for an incoming exam at artschool in the stupidest way 😂

sarahwys-deactivated20220315

Lavellan @ the Dalish Clans:

“Our stories of Fenharel are wrong… He wasnt evil, but infact good”

Dalish Clans:

“Ok.. cool.. whats he upto atm?”

Lavelllan @ the Dalish Clans:

“He’s going to destroy the world as we know it”

Dalish Clans:

dragonagent

playing dragon age inquisition for the 80th time

bogleech

mavisbeaconofficial

cobaltdays-deactivated20210208

What in God’s name is this

dozy-draconequus-deactivated202

Uhhh so I can tell y'all for sure he WASN’T eating that eggplant….

theshockinglyeloquentdog

this keeps getting worse

tooiconic

helthehatter

Did none of the crew look at this before it was green lit?? What the fuck what tHE FUCK

kingdomofkitten

I like to imagine they did.

They just did it to see if CN would notice.

starscreamloki

Fighting Loki

Day 3 of Fighting Loki. And because seeing Loki fight is only fun when they are in gifs, these week no static pictures (though there is nothing wrong with that!) but gifs! yay!

beets1bears1battlestargalactica

IMAGINE LOKI

Loki: *hugs you from behind* Goodmorning, love

Y/N: It’s too early to be stabbed Loki

Loki: *slowly putting his knives back up his sleeves and sweating profusely* I’m afraid I don’t know what you’re talking about.

starscreamloki

No stabbing before I had my coffee!

sugarysapphic

You ask why my favourite colour is purple?

…no reason

wnnbdarklord

“I am Loki, of Asgard and I am burdened with glorious purpose.”

motherhela

Well, I hope he wasn’t still kneeling before Thanos here (who just sent him to Midgard) and was so obsessed about people kneeling to him later bc he learned it from Thanos to do it like that.

the-insomniac-cat

@motherhela OMG. OMG I NEVER THOUGH OF THAT. Why did you think of that? - I didn’t think of that and now I’m thinking of that I don’t like it and my heart is hurting. It’s so cleverly thought out that it’s brilliant. But I can’t.

motherhela

Loki would usually be the last one to take the position of kneeling. But if we look at him here, he actually does it. Another thing we know: Thanos tortured him. We don’t know how. But to see Loki kneeling here, makes me strongly assume it was terrifying for him - as Kevin Feige told Tom when they were talking about how it’s been for Loki when he fell after Thor 1 and met Thanos.

Well and from a psychological aspect it always tends to be the victim (Loki) adapts his abuser‘s behaviour - in this case commanding the people on earth to kneel before him.

the-insomniac-cat

@motherhela yes, and then the influence of the mind stone too… I hate that nothing of his experience has been referenced in the films. Well other than when he was with Thor and said

“I’ve seen worlds you’ve never known about. I have grown, Odinson, in my exile, I have seen the true power of the Tesseract and when I wield it Thor…”

then Thor asks, “Who showed you this power? Who controls the would-be king?” And he doesn’t get to an answer because the ‘would be king’ thing hits such a nerve-

Loki “I AM A KING!”

Thor “NOT HERE! You give up the Tesseract! You give up this pointless dream! You come home.”

Loki “I don’t have it. You need the cube to bring me home, but I’ve sent it off, I know not where.“

Thor “You listen well, brother. I– [Iron Man ploughs into him at full speed]

Loki: “I’m listening?”

And that’s it. We never hear any more details and it really annoys me. I wanted to know more about what Loki had seen, but it wasn’t really necessary for the story and- time. But I had hoped it would pop up in another film. (can you remember anywhere else it does?) I love that Tom told us what he thought. He really researches and reads around his characters, thinks through it all. He seemed to build Loki from the inside out, didn’t he, so he would know. I still wish it had been in the films though for others, people who don’t read or watch TH interviews or things about Loki would see it.

delyth88

I hadn’t considered this possibility either! But I suppose there’s no other reason why he would need to kneel for the transport. I wonder what Thanos’ parting words were? And I also wish we’d had more of an explanation of Loki’s encounter with Thanos in the films. So much to uncover, but so little time in the films. I almost wish they had been created as a top quality television show with more room to explore everything.

scintillatingshortone

Wow this never occurred to me!

starscreamloki

Well, in the opening scene of the Avengers we see how Loki is handed the scepter. The time had been passed between the receiving of the scepter, and Loki appearing through the portal has never been stated. This is the shot when Loki is handed the scepter:

(awfully dark, sorry) but as far as I can tell, he is already kneeling. Because look at the way his garments are falling around him. That can only be of his position.

Secondly:

Look at Loki’s shadow. Head down, an subjugated position.

So I think there has been no time between getting the scepter and arriving on earth, and that is why he is still kneeling and so very shaken and dazed by his surroundings.

Only little detail in this theory is that when receiving the scepter is Loki is wearing his helmet, and upon arrival he isn’t…

apicturewithasmile

“I’m much happier at 53 than I was at 23.” (x)

t-aash

i love you guillermo del totoro

juliabohemian

So I came across a post about how polite Loki is in Ragnarok. And I saw a lot of sarcastic comments about how saying “please” makes up for being a murderer. If you’re a fan of Loki, I don’t recommend reading the comments, unless you want to cringe.

Either way, I find it odd that Loki is continually referred to as being a murderer, when his overall kill count continues to be far lower than Thor’s, Tony Stark’s or really, probably every one of the original Avengers. Why is he MORE of a murderer? Is it because he did it while the bad guy music was playing?

whitedaydream

And because he is continually blamed for murder by murderers meanwhile the murderers are portrayed as heroes.

jebbifurzz

I always see the “He killed 80 people in 2 days” response, but about 70 of those 80 were killed by Fury destroying the SHIELD base, and therefore not by Loki at all. We only see Loki kill about 10 agents plus maybe eyeball guy, so the entire figure is inflated by Fury attributing his kill count to Loki.

juliabohemian

My kids maintain that “eyeball guy” survives, although we have no proof of that. Perhaps growing up with a one eyed dad hardened Loki to the notion of eye related safety.

jebbifurzz

Yeah, I actually always assumed that he survived, since we didn’t see any blood at all, and blood loss would be the only reason for immediate death by eyeball abuse-(shredding?removal?). I included him because people like to add him to Loki’s kills, so I didn’t want to seem like I was deliberately ignoring any of Loki’s actions.

the-crownless-queen

I mean… Yes, but he also attempted to destroy Jotunheim which… Genocide.

juliabohemian

Let’s talk about why Loki wanted to destroy Jotunheim.

First of all, Loki was raised in a warrior society, by a father who had literally raped and pillaged his way to the top of the 9 realms. Loki was thoroughly convinced, under those circumstances, that destroying Jotunheim was the way to earn his father’s love and respect. Loki’s goal, ultimately, was not to destroy for the sake of destruction. It was to earn his father’s love.

Why did Thor want to destroy Jotunheim? Partly to keep Asgard safe. But also for the sake of destruction. It’s fascinating to me how the audience is alright with Thor’s motives, but not with Loki’s. I personally find Loki’s way more relatable.

Now we can pretend that Thor spending a few days as a mortal on Earth made him this peace loving, anti-violent guy who suddenly understands the meaning of life. Sure, he realizes that killing the Jotuns would be genocide. Except that he goes right back to slaying people at the beginning of The Dark World -you know to “restore order” to the 9 realms and all that. So clearly killing is okay in Thor’s eyes. Just, you know, in moderation. The audience dismisses this because Thor is a hero.

My point is not that everything Loki does is okay. My point is that when Loki is regarded objectively (meaning no bias towards who is a villain and who is a hero) his motives are no better or worse than those of any other character. People see Loki as a villain because the narrative tells them that they are supposed to. Therefore, they don’t regard him objectively.

If you dismiss anything good a villain does, because the villain has done bad things, you are not objective. Just as you cannot dismiss any bad things the hero has done, simply because they have done good things.

@lokiloveforever @lucianalight @shine-of-asgard @lasimo74allmyworld @delyth88 @philosopherking1887 @jebbifurzz @whitedaydream

cosmicjoke-deactivated20250918

All of this.

I don’t understand people who want to view or label Loki as this black and white, one dimensional villain, when it was plain as day to me from the first time I saw Thor 1 that he was far more complex and played far more of an ambiguous role than that.

If you really pay close attention to everything Loki does from the very beginning of the first film, to the end, it’s all motivated by actual good intentions. I know that some might have a difficult time realizing this, as it isn’t explicitly stated and shoved down their throats, which is the only way some people seem to be able to actually receive a message. Loki’s methods are definitely questionable, but I think what people need to understand about him too is that, we’re never given to believe Loki was ever mentally fully healthy. He’s plainly an emotionally and mentally unstable young man from the start, and by unstable, I mean when we meet him he’s a person who’s been led, intentionally or not, into believing that he isn’t as loved as Thor, that nobody really likes or respects him, who perceives himself to be regarded as lesser, and a lot of that belief of his is based on the actual treatment he receives. He isn’t delusional, but his perception has been warped through, in one form or another, a kind of abuse.

Observe the way he’s treated by Heimdall, who tries to KILL him simply for upholding Odin’s decree on Thor’s banishment, tries to MURDER Loki when he confronts Hiemdall over committing TREASON regarding, not only Odin’s, but his own decree, as king regent, by letting Sif and the Warriors 3 go to Midgard to bring Thor back. Heimdall literally tries to chop Loki’s head off for this. And then there’s Sif and the Warriors 3, who make open fun of him and accuse him of being a coward, accuse him of being the architect of Thor’s banishment without any proof whatsoever, and, without apparent qualm, plan on dismissing Loki’s standing as king regent by completely disobeying his orders that they aren’t to go to Midgard to bring Thor back. Again, just like Heimdall, an act of legitimate treason. And even Thor mistreats Loki, talking over him like his opinion doesn’t matter and telling him essentially to stay in his “place” when he tries to talk Thor out of going on a murderous rampage.

Look at ALL of this if you need proof that Loki isn’t respected, by right of his social status within an autocratic system, as he should be. Look at all of that, and you’ll understand why Loki thought that he obviously needed to do something extreme to earn any love and respect, and why he thought he needed to do something extreme to get Odin’s attention. He KNOWS Thor isn’t ready for the throne, even as Odin remains ambivalent about it, but is going ahead with giving it to him anyway, and so Loki surmises that he’s going to have to prove to Odin that he’s making a grave mistake. Which, consequently, he DOES prove, because Thor goes from 0 to a million in about 0.01 seconds, wanting to invade Jotuneheim and start a war over the actions of a few Frost Giants. He then proceeds to actually go to Jotunheim and slaughter who knows how many Frost Giants, because one of them called him a “princess”, despite Loki’s very much real and desperate attempts to get him to calm down and go home. Now you might argue, ‘But Loki’s the one that goaded Thor into going into Jotunheim in the first place!’, and yeah, that’s true. But intention is always important when evaluating someone’s actions, and Loki NEVER intended for Thor to make it to Jotunheim. He wanted Odin to catch Thor trying to go there so that he would then see that Thor wasn’t ready to assume the role of King. That was Loki’s SOLE intention with the entire affair. Things of course got drastically out of hand and the rest of the film’s consequences play out from that. But Loki was, at the root of it all, trying to do what he thought was right for his Realm, for his brother, for his father, and for all of them. He knew Thor was reckless, knew he was consumed by a lust for blood and battle, and that he didn’t yet possess the wisdom or maturity to make a good, or even passable king. He knew Thor on the throne would be an unmitigated disaster, and so he went about preventing it the only way he knew how.

And let’s think about how Loki does go about that for a moment. He uses manipulation, trickery and deceit. Why? Well, if we take a look again at the way others regard Loki in this film, constantly cutting him off, making jokes at his expense, talking about him like he’s a coward and a liar and about how he’s “always been jealous of Thor”, do you think, if Loki actually appealed to any of these people forthrightly, and told them his opinion about Thor taking on the throne, that they would even deign to listen to him for a moment? It sure doesn’t seem like it to me. And Odin’s shown to be an extremely stubborn and willful personality, who when he’s set his mind to something, won’t be dissuaded by anybody (ala, Loki trying to intervene when Odin is banishing Thor, and Odin literally growing at him like a wild animal to shut him up). From all of this I think we can justifiably assume that Loki probably felt there WAS no other way for him to make others listen to him about Thor then to simply SHOW them how reckless and selfish Thor actually was. Everyone just acted like the sun shown out of Thor’s ass, and Loki was just a jealous, meddling, unlikable coward by comparison.

From there things only become more tragic and complex. Loki finds out he’s a Jotun. Not only a Jotun, but a Jotun runt, abandoned by his real father to die alone in the cold. He finds out he’s a part of a race of beings who have been, since as far back as he can remember, regarded as the mortal enemies of the Aesir. Regarded as literal monsters. He finds out he’s not really even an Aesir, he finds out he’s not really Odin’s son, or Frigga’s son, or Thor’s brother. He finds out he’s, according to the culture he’s grown up with for over a thousand years, an abomination. All of this converges with Loki’s ever increasing feelings of being less loved, less wanted, less worthy, just lesser in general, than Thor in not just Asgard’s eyes, but in the eyes of his parents, and boom, you have the perfect mixture for a serious, massive, world shattering crisis of self identity, and Loki, who as I’ve pointed out was already standing on a precarious edge of mental health, has a mental break and snaps. He becomes so distraught and so desperate to PROVE that he isn’t a monster, that he isn’t evil, that he isn’t unworthy of love, that his teetering and devastated mind concocts a plan to prove to Odin that he, in his own words, is a worthy son, that he’s every bit as much an Asgardian as Thor, that he’s as loyal to Odin’s house as Thor, maybe even more so, and in his breaking mind, he concludes that the best way to do that is to destroy the very race of monsters from which he comes, thus severing any and all ties he has to Jotunheim and solidifying his ties and loyalty to Asgard. Loki’s a hurt, and mentally ill unit, which people don’t seem to take into account when assessing his actions. Thor has no such excuses. Thor’s a perfectly healthy young man, with a healthy sense of self esteem and pride. He knows he’s loved by his family and his people, and he knows he’s destined for greatness, and yet still he goes on murdering rampages and seeks to kill, not for any reason beyond the thrill of it. Loki knows no such thing at all about himself. All he knows is that people dislike him, they don’t trust him, they think he’s a coward, and that Odin chose Thor over him to be King, despite his own doubts and hesitations on that front.

Loki doesn’t try to destroy Jotunheim because he’s got blood lust. He tries to destroy Jotunheim because he’s convinced it’s the only way for him to prove he’s NOT a monster. It’s completely tragic, and heartbreaking, and not really the actions of a villain at all, more the actions of a mentally and emotionally broken young man with probably epically low self-esteem because everyone’s always treated him more like he’s a barely tolerable stain on the shiny greatness of Asgard than it’s actual fucking prince.

juliabohemian