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I had a few anons about the poker stream but jsyk that whole topic is best left alone so I won't be answering those <3

Oscar and lando did race each other at the nurburgring first before the two testing days. They were filmed by other people on the track. The issue was they had other cars on track with them so it seems mclaren filmed extra external footage with doubles so they could get clips without other cars interfering.

THANK U I was so confused by that bc I think ppl were confusing the doubles with it not being one of them ?? but yea this makes a lot more sense bc why go all the way there and make them film different days

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From his insta post and this one https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bruce-gray-908aa2127_my-time-at-mclaren-racing-has-come-to-a-close-ugcPost-7445141926883860480-pAwb it looked like a proper moving on from mclaren. He is freelance now though so not sure if they contract him for specific weekends maybe. I guess we will see how often he is around going forwards!

I hadn't seen the LinkedIn post tysm !! yea I wonder if for him giving up working for them full time/on salary felt like a bigger wrench than we'd expect bc he'd no longer be in that traveling circus with all the same people? I can imagine it feels like such a close knit group despite being so many ppl bc you spend more time with them than your own family (which is why they inevitably have to leave)

I love that he's coming back to work with them freelance tho!

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Inch, I had not heard that Adam was asked to be around the garage less? I missed something critical about the removal of patriarchal barriers to Lando and Oscar’s love. If you have the time, could you please elaborate?

b a b e I should've combined the other anon ask with yours ;__; but yes! sometime before the season started rumors were going around that Adam had been asked to somehow step back in his role in the garage at races (some rumors said he was "banned" but that was never going to be the case) and it coincided with Oscar changing Mark's role to solely being about sponsorship and contract negotiations - and it's definitely played out that way too bc normally both of them were VERY present in the first 5 races of each season and they've been way less visible and certainly not right up in at the engineering table!

and like not to rpf too hard but honestly ?? Lando and Oscar only growing closer and trusting each other more as a result of direct competition for race wins and championships is SO wild and against the normal masculinity of this sport that how could Adam and Mark know their typical roles would become not just redundant but actually hurtful to the boys they're wanting to protect/promote ?

and I know we probably won't find out for a long time but I am dyingggg to know how it all went down and if it was Lando and Oscar coordinating how to gently let Adam and Mark know that they can stand down and that they've actually found all the safety and support they need in each other or did they realize it and take action individually and just so happen to have perfectly twinned about that too oh my godddd the real life narrative of them makes me so !!!!

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Can I ask a genuine question because it has always confused me: why do people act like Webber has any issue with Lando? Everything he's ever said about Lando has been nice as far as I have seen. Even before Oscar arrived in f1 he was very complimentary of Lando. When he was doing his TV role he was very normal about Lando. He's been around Lando and Lando/Oscar so much and no one has ever appeared to be uncomfortable. Lando's father follows him. If we are to even believe that he/Oscar's camp felt Lando was favored, the issue was with Mclaren handling things poorly and never anything of Lando's actual doing. Even your comment about Lando's father - where does that stem from? He has never shown anything untoward regarding Oscar has he? I've never understood where the Webber stuff comes from, he is on great terms with his ex teammates and literally loves yaoing himself out for jokes or joking about russtappen rpf? I really don't think Oscar and Lando being friendly would be something he is against at all. Nor would Adam Norris be - he is not shy about hiding his distaste for Max 🤷‍♀️

omg ok so I can't speak for everyone but I'd say most of it is us just having fun and running with it for the Narratives !

and tbh as we've seen when it comes to Oscar and Lando as people, Chris Mark and Adam all have pretty healthy levels of support for the boys and there's no toxicity there really.

but what IS definitely there - or was - is about Mark understandably projecting his own number two driver history and unfinished business onto his concerns with Oscar at McLaren and it's therefore connected to Lando being such an established driver there and a natural "favorite" for Zak in particular (but no he definitely doesn't blame Lando for that or expect Lando not to take every opportunity open to him) and with Adam it's the same level of intensity he's always had in the garage about Lando's success and worrying that McLaren isn't doing everything they can to help make it happen rather than him blaming Oscar for taking every opportunity he can. I often kind of wonder how that would've played out with Carlos or Daniel in the position of fighting for championships and regular race wins bc Adam sees Oscar as one of his son's contemporaries as opposed to an older established driver with his own connections in the paddock that might've clashed with his own.

so yea I think most of us are aware that Oscar reducing Mark's presence in his racing career and in the paddock is because Mark advocating for him so much was actually creating tensions for Oscar - Mark's generation in particular can't quite grasp the level of openness and collaboration Lando and Oscar have where they're such equals and so young/the same age. and with Adam it's pretty much the same bc he's no longer required to push back against the other side of the garage - even down to the final three races when everyone assumed there'd be a digital and physical divider between them, Lando and Oscar's garages remained wide open in communication and collaboration.

so it's less about the two father figures being toxic and more that the roles they've played don't fit anywhere in the landoscar McLaren setup yk? and it's extremely rare tbf !! most teammate situations with that level of equality and at least one of them being young means you should expect to have to fight for your side and look out for your own (Sainz Sr has been doing that nonstop for his son's whole career) and I think therefore we'll see them in the garages occasionally but it won't be shoulder to shoulder with the engineers all the time like it used to be.

obv solos will have a biased take bc they're very much still rooting for Lando or Oscar against the other which is ofc sports fan normality but for a lot of us who are fans of both I feel like it's just fun to take the base of how Adam and Mark's roles were changed after last season and spin it out into narratives for fun <3

and just a side note but Adam is still very friendly with Max too! same with Charles! but directly after a race he doesn't hide his distaste of them preventing his boy from winning which tbh isn't abnormal for dads in the paddock aslfgsjlagf

Jenson on the other hand actually does have one-sided hilarious beef w Oscar but not out of dadness it's bc he projects onto Lando and Oscar is an obstruction to his/Lando's successes and that's also delicious narratively

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