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@intp-entj
My one enjoyable coworker in a job environment full of screaming obnoxious wasteful teenagers is a 15 year old male infp who knows about mbti and brought it up to me unprompted. Today I want to thank any and every INFP who can be light hearted without being a monstrosity who doesn’t care about their job. -INTP
Can’t yall at least /pretend/ not to use te?
This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen
And here I thought this was a rather beautiful post 😂😂
I purposely was melodramatic as a joke. I don’t really understand how one post can automatically make me a Te-user. If that’s true, then maybe from this post I can probably be INFP. Maybe INTJ. With how excited I am, heck, I could be ENTJ or ENFP too. There are a lot of things I can be from this one post. Heck, I could be a sensor. 😂😂😂
See, typing people requires more than one look at a person. A few measly sentences don’t define me, especially since what comes out my mouth (or from my fingers) never defines exactly what I’m thinking.
And please don’t take this sentence, twist it around, and say that I’m trying to prove my being Ti. I’m telling the truth and nothing but. I honestly don’t have the willpower or interest to prove my being Ti. I’ve gone down this road before (doubting my type) and people trying to “prove” what I am and what I’m not is incredibly distressing and time-consuming. Also, please don’t post behind people’s backs. This just comes off as untrustworthy and disrespectful. Even if the lot of you are Te and you think I’m Te too, at least I’m not sneaking around with petty gossip.
‘I don’t really understand how one post can automatically make me a Te-user.’
> it can’t actually but to me it looks like you’ve been a Te user for your entire life. Your reply is so incredible infp that it’s hard to see it as anything but a good copypasta and i’d work on that
‘See, typing people requires more than one look at a person.’
> (fi voice)
‘A few measly sentences don’t define me’
> (fi voice)
‘I honestly don’t have the willpower or interest to prove my being Ti’
> yeah don’t bother with that it’s pretty difficult to prove something you don’t have and you’re gonna end up making yourself look even more ridiculous than you already are lmao
‘I’ve gone down this road before (doubting my type)’
> you should go down this road a second time
‘Also, please don’t post behind people’s backs’
> (fi voice)
to sum this up you have fi, you have te, you’re an infp and please reconsider your type (which is infp)
“please don’t post behind people’s backs” SMDNTNTKGNFMFNSMNDKSNCKD
ENTJs and jealousy
I wanted to ask my fellow ENTJs how they handle jealousy. Do you think the “territorial ENTJs” stereotype is true? Or are you laid-back when it comes to jealousy (both for friends and for significant others)?
Personally, I get very jealous, very easily, but I don’t act on it because I don’t think it’s fair and because I don’t like coming off as needy or clingy. I’d like to hear other people’s opinions on this, I’m curious.
(if you’re not an ENTJ, but you’re close to one, then don’t shy away from sharing insights as well!)
I’m super territorial. People are swayed so easily and while I try not to act on it, I also know that in a fraction of a second; everyone will be gone. -ENTJ
Enneatypes in a nutshell
Enneagram Moodboard: Enneatype 8
Rationals flirting
ENTJs:
Approaching: Contrary to popular belief, ENTJs aren’t necessarily that upfront when they’re flirting; instead, when approaching, they often flirt and play koi, allowing their object of affection to reciprocate feelings before they invest the entirety of their energy into the project. This is their Ni at work, working towards a long term goal while still using Te to take action in the present. They may also be inexplicably kinder; they’ll seem unusually empathetic and understanding, or at least withholding in their emotions. Their flirting generally consists of banter, compliments and seductive looks. They’ll suddenly confess their feelings, although you’ll feel it coming; during a good conversation, they’ll make you laugh and then wait for you to settle down as they stare at you. Then, they’ll confess their feelings. This oscillation between states of vulnerability and their normal selves is designed, intentionally or not, to keep you on your toes, giving the ENTJ control in the relationship, and to some extent over your emotions. ENTJs are not manipulative people; they simply enjoy approaching their relationships in a very cat-mouse fashion.
Reciprocating: This is similar to when they’re approaching, with the one difference that they’ll often wait for you to initiate the compliments and seductive looks. They might be afraid of rejection, so they might wait and make sure you like them before being too blatant about reciprocating your feelings. Additionally, they won’t share their feelings until they’re sure you feel the same, and you’ve expressed them.
INTJs:
Approaching: INTJs are often most spontaneous when pursuing a crush. Expect gifts and unexpected compliments. When talking to you, you’ll probably feel as though they are trying to study you; they’ll ask you questions about your views on large concepts, such as politics or consumerism, as well as less globally applicable questions, such as weird habits you had when you were a child or your plans for the future. It’s also quite common for them to share their ideas and theories with you; these are probably what they value most, and sharing them with you feels significant to them. They’ll throw around compliments such as ‘you’re one of my favorite people in the world’, and ask you if you like them before admitting that they like you. INTJs are very strategic in the way they obtain their crushes, even if they can be direct. One example was an INTJ spotting someone at their university. They introduced themselves to their object of affection briefly at a party. Then, they ‘accidentally’ bumped into their crush, and while their crush was picking up their belongings, the INTJ pointed out that they had met once, and then asked their crush out on a date. The crush said yes. The INTJ went to pick up the crush, only to hear that they had been stood up for their ice cream date, and that their crush was studying in the library. The INTJ then found out their crush’s favorite flavor of ice cream, purchased two cones in that flavor, and brought them into the library to meet their crush.
Reciprocating: It might initially seem like nothing has changed, but look for the little things; how quickly do they change their opinions for you? Do they reciprocate physical touch? Do they actively attempt to hold the conversation you started with them? That’s more or less how they behave. Additionally, they’ll say yes when asked directly if they like you or not.
ENTPs:
Approaching: ENTPs are generally very direct when approaching. It isn’t uncommon for them to comment on your appearance, often in very sexual ways. Sometimes it seems as though their strategy is to embed themselves into a social group, then make it known that they like you without ever actually saying that they like you. Once you’re actually talking, they’ll be more vulnerable with you than they generally are with others, allowing their external air of coolness dissolve into a fluffier version of themselves. Other ENTPs may approach in slightly less direct ways, flirting with banter and wordplay. An example of the first kind of ENTP would be their crush wearing a swimsuit with the American flag on it, and the ENTP staring at them and saying ‘God bless America’ for everyone to hear, whereas the second kind of ENTP might have approached their crush before making such a comment.
Reciprocating: An ENTP reciprocating is similar to them approaching, although they’ll be more careful and incremental when it comes to revealing their true selves; it may feel as though they’re slowly inoculating you against their personal brand of insanity. They’ll test you, as if you’re applying for a job, but in a very informal way; rather than asking you whether or not you can handle people with their particular sense of humor, they’ll expose you to their sense of humor and gauge your reaction. They might think it’s apparent that the two of you like each other, and begin referring to the two of you as a couple, even if you haven’t officially started dating.
INTPs:
Approaching: When approaching, INTPs will seem more or less like themselves; adorkable and slightly shy people who, although they may feel it, have difficulty expressing affection beyond having a pleasant demeanor and being generally kind. They generally prefer to be approached. When approaching, they’ll often make jokes, and initiate conversations more than usual. They’ll be very nice to you, which might be hard to distinguish since many of them already treat those around them with kindness. They very much fear that their feelings won’t be reciprocated, and as such they’ll make sure that you feel the same way, and they’ll wait for you to express your feelings first, even when approaching. Their approaching methods can seem very strategic; they’ll use their friends for information on you and whether or not you like them, and get their friends to talk to you. When approaching, they often attempt to get you to approach them.
Reciprocating: When reciprocating, INTPs employ similar strategies as when they’re approaching, but won’t actually approach you. That’s your job. Otherwise, they’re basically the same. However, they might have some more difficulties, as being approached often entails being complimented, which can be difficult for INTPs. It’s not that they don’t like or appreciate your compliments; they just don’t know how to react to them, and might feel compelled to run away and hide, as though your complimenting is going to make them behave in an embarrassing way.
This is for forbidden knowledge that should not be on the internet, remove the ENTJ one immediately
Oh shit I used the wrong coy lmao
alright let’s fucking go
I got one lmao
I got 10! :D
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10-15, fear me
@entjheda i feel like someone should do a survey to find out the average for each type lol
Yes. That has to happen. Let’s find out which type is the best fighter against 5 year olds.
15, but I don’t know what to think about this. - ENTJ
do you ever just
Unholy trinity
hot take
“xNTJ 8” blogs are mostly just threes with a power complex
another hot take
eights on this hellsite are mistyped in general. why do y'all want to be eights anyways? eights kinda suck.
Nah. Being an 8 is awesome. Being fearless. Not being a pushover. Self confidence. Always able to dig a little deeper. Can motivate ourselves to do anything just by calling ourselves weak or cowardly for not doing it. Also, 8 is the infinity symbol turned on its side and that’s pretty cool.
You just don’t like us because we’re you, but stronger.
funny how this post brings the exact people I’m talking about. You’re not an INTP 8, dude.
Glad you think you know me. Please, tell me more 😁
#why would i block you? #trolls are the happy meal of the internet
I’m you assuming OP is a troll and that there is no reasoning behind what they’re saying. lol.
No one needs to know you anymore than what you’ve written initially to tell that you’re not an “INTP 8,” which I think is barely possible in the first place. Funny how you can tell that from someone’s thought process huh. Your “you don’t know me uwu” statement just makes that more obvious.
Consider TJ / FP and 3-core / 3 fix lol.
Telling me who and what I am with access to no more information than what’s on my blog? That’s either foolishness or trolling. I’m assuming trolling because of the “how long until you block me” tag - suggesting that this is just to get people worked up.
You think it’s barely possible to be an INTP 8? That’s your problem.
Yea,,, believe it or not but,,, you can tell a lot about someone’s possible type based on the way that someone thinks? Why is that surprising to an INTP who’s into typology? Hello, cognitive functions? Keyword: cognitive.
You can tell from my own typology blog that I have low Ti alone. People can tell what type I am from the way I speak, think and how I view the world and myself? You can tell from my main blogs that I’m an Se and Fe user and probably more. If you understand what you’re reading and know enough you can do this with many people. This isn’t surprising lol.
Do you know what fake INTPs with Fi on here do? Instead of making arguments based on the topic at hand i.e. typology, they immediately resort to the “you don’t know me” card. That’s a dead giveaway to me that you’re not an INTP dude. Why? Because Ti dom doesn’t fucking work like that. Ti dom wants consistency and immediately resorts to pointing out and even making fun (inf Fe) of inconsistencies in other people’s arguments when they don’t make sense. But you know what function keeps pulling that card and calling me foolish for making my assumptions on your type? Fi>Te. Your reasoning and speaking style reveals your functions. There are patterns in how groups of people talk that correlates to their type and that, backed up with reasoning, is how you can learn to detect when someone’s mistyped.
Have you even considered that certain function stacks don’t go with certain types? Why have you never met an ENTP 2? (Tip: If you have that’s probably an ENFP, probably unhealthy and a 4 while we’re at it.) Why are over half to 75% of real INTPs 5s, and after that 9s, 6s, 4s? Think about that.
Also you seem to think that being an 8 doesn’t have to be destructive. I guess it’s normal for 8s to be calm and non-aggressive uwu. I GUESS it’s normal for most types to be in their integrated forms huh? I guess it’s normal for 8s to have such a cold outlook on the world, an animalistic view of themselves, and aggression! I GUESS it’s just normal for a teen to wake up one morning and decide they’re going to be [insert the essence of an 8 here]. Have you even studied enneagram theory. It’s literally the childhood to early adulthood period that determines your type???? Why did this child become an 8. I identify as an 8 and since I and the countless other mistyped 8s on this site are not unhealthy, trauma-ridden and/or aggressive; since I have this view of myself that totally conflicts with the nature of an 8, this means not all 8s are like that!!! uwu
“How long until you block me” Because people on here feel like they’re being trolled, attacked and/or don’t want to admit that their knowledge is inconsistent and that they are mistyped. They think the big bad boogie social blind clique are out to get them so they !!! block.
So here’s the thing. I really enjoy being sarcastic, and the above “you think you know me” comment (as well as “we’re you but stronger” before that) was intended as sarcasm. I expect to be engaged further, at which point I could dig in a bit deeper, get more value out of the discussion. But above? Was just a little too busy for anything but a snarky retort.
So you think I’m not an INTP. I honestly couldn’t care less about that. Because you’re basing your judgement on preconceived notions of how something does and doesn’t show up. See, you’re saying Ti mocks people for inconsistencies. Personally I find attempting to type someone on the basis of information gleaned from a blog that’s less than a year old to be absolutely inconsistent with the concept of typology in general. You need more data for accurate typing. So yeah - I’ll be snarky about it. Because saying you can type someone with such limited information absolutely doesn’t make sense. But I do expect to be engaged further - as I mentioned above - and so also expect (more “hope”) that it will, eventually, get to a point where valuable information is being exchanged.
I seem to think 8 doesn’t have to be destructive? Nah, that’s not it. I think it’s possible for an 8 to be reasonably healthy. Common? No. But possible. That said, I don’t generally consider myself unaggressive. I tend towards a cold fury. If I’m shouting, I’m screwing around.
Is it normal for most types to be in their integrated forms? Certainly not. Can you say that because of that you’ll never engage a person who is? No. Am I saying I am? You tell me.
And now we get to the good part. The part where you talk about trauma. That’s great, because 8’s tend to develop as a result of traumatic experiences, right? Rough childhoods. Things like an alcoholic father, a bipolar mother, being regularly physically assaulted at school because of a physically small stature…until the day they decide they’ve had enough and start pushing back. It goes something like that, right?
On the up side, the hypothetical 8 up there may have gotten to see a psychiatrist from a young age and as such can develop into a relatively healthy adult. So perhaps not all 8 appear to be 8’s to a stranger - even when it’s unusual for that to happen, it can.
With that said, I’ll be honest, I haven’t really given enneagram as much attention as MBTI. So while I may be snarky about it, I do enjoy hearing what others have to say on the topic. Gives me more to learn.
And as to the last bit - I think the point I was making was that personally? I find this to be more along the lines of entertainment than an attack. So I don’t really see why I’d be blocking anyone. And I believed that the OP was also really entertaining themselves…so my assumption is trolling.
That said, if you’re actually interested in getting to know a person before you try to type them, please send a message. We’ll see if you can see me as an INTP 854 so-blind after some discussion. Hmmm?
lol I was aware of the possibility that you were trolling or messing around because your previous reply somehow hinted that possibility. It’s not the first time it’s happened I’ll tell you that. But at the same time, whether or not you are mistyped, there ARE actual mistyped people on here resorting to that excuse as well, they just go about it from a different place. At which point, you are right, you do need more info and need to ammend your stance based on the feedback you get. That’s what I do naturally and I’m happy to agree with your stance if you can prove so. I haven’t done it here but I also tend to play around to see reactions, either for fun or for more info because I learn from interactions like this…So I get where you’re coming from?
The thing is MOST people don’t play around like that. MOST people are not being sarcastic or testing for reactions. I like arguing with people and I like helping them too. So naturally, when I see someone being stubborn on something they say about a certain type that indicates that they have it wrong or that they’re mistyped, I’m going to want to jump in. You can’t act in a certain way and not expect someone to react like so when there’s so much misinfo and mistyped people around in the first place.
You are also right about needing to know someone well before typing them properly. That’s why people on here talk to others in private before typing them. But as I’ve said, a large number of people on here are not putting up a façade, or playing around for reactions. They’re being themselves and they spread misinformation, consistently write up actual misinformed arguments to which you have to argue based on what you are given to get your point to them. And they react badly to it. They pull that card and they ignore you, block you, call you mean instead of actually wanting to cooperate and uhh, talk about it like you’ve suggested. And you can blatantly tell the kind of reasoning they’re using BY the way they talk and think. Those that DO cooperate and talk to you in private are often still the same type you think they are and are just using poor reasoning. Then you can tell it’s for example, a 3 or an Fi user. I have to make my argument based on what I can see and the view you’re giving me on a certain topic. I’m not going to make the assumption that someone’s looking for a reaction or trying to get this point across to me on every single encounter when this isn’t what most cases are like, you feel? This is kinda rambly but I hope I got the point across. Based on this I can’t personally tell anything on your type yet good job (maybe someone else can lol) but this got interesting..so..nice.
Yeah, so back to my original reblog? “Nah, being an 8 is great” - etc…that was intended as sarcasm. Partly because it’s never sunshine and rainbows (I may be wrong, but as an 8 I hate the idea of sunshine and rainbows anyway and I suspect most 8’s would…both literal sunshine and rainbows and metaphorical. That kind of life…no challenge…boring.)
But also partly because there really are advantages to being an 8 - provided you’re healthy and you try to actually keep your head in spite of the fact that you desperately want to rip others’ heads off.
I figured the last bits - about an 8 looking like an infinity symbol and “we’re you but stronger” - would be a pretty clear tip-off that my post was meant to be humorous. So when OP responded like that? I figured it was good natured trolling.
On a side note - and do correct me if I’m wrong - but the above, knowing which fights are worth it… that’s what makes a healthy 8, in my opinion. Learning that not everything is worth fighting over. The only winning move is, in fact, not to play.
Now as to people being themselves and spreading misinformation (as the OP said, xNTJ blogs, and especially INTJ blogs because so many people have no concept of what being an INTJ is like, but it SOUNDS SO COOL) - I figure there’s no real way to get through to them until they actually notice discrepancies between how they type themselves and what that type generally is, and they actually look for answers. Until then… They want to be petty about things? They’re not worth engaging further, anyway. And…no real harm done, right?
On the topic of INTP 8’s - unusual as it may be, unlikely as it may seem, we’re out there. Mainly INTP-A’s. I found this a while back and would say it’s worth a read. Not specifically about INTP 8’s but read what it says about the 854 tritype. You might see how an INTP can, in fact, be an 8.
Now… I’ve stated and restated my type. But if you can’t tell…well, as I said, I welcome further discussion on the topic. It is, in fact, interesting.
an “8” INTP is an SP-dom INTP 9w8, or a 5wCP6 with an 8 fix.
the problem isn’t whether something is hypothetically possible, but what the most likely explanation is for someone’s behavior. any number of things are hypothetically possible - for instance, it’s hypothetically possible that a child could be born with purple eyes; actress Elizabeth Taylor was said to have a genetic mutation that made her eyes purple and gave her a double set of eyelashes. however, it’s been proven that these cases of “purple” eyes are actually blue eyes which appear purple under certain kinds of light. thus, purple has been ruled out as a genetically possible human eye color.
basically to everyone here, it looks like you’re claiming that you were born with purple eyes. why would anyone in their right mind take a claim like that without skepticism? you can invite us to examine you under a microscope, and it’s incredibly likely that the results will just confirm our conclusion. after all, you’re basically marching into a group of geneticists, claiming that you have some rare, unforeseen genetic mutation, and that they’re wrong that it’s not possible because you read about this rare condition called Alexandria’s Genesis and you’re sure you have it. obviously, anyone in their right mind will question both your claim and the sources you’re consulting to confirm it. the more you talk, the more you rule out INTP 8 as a possibility, and that’s just the way it is. you can talk about narrowing definitions, but narrow definitions are necessary for any kind of accurate diagnosis, otherwise it wouldn’t even be applicable.
I’d say take some time out and stop investing your identity in being an INTP or an 8 before you proceed, because with the level of personal investment you obviously have in this issue, you really aren’t credible at this point.
First of all, I love how you’re comparing yourself to geneticists - which is to say experts in the relevant field. No, that’s not sarcasm, I do, actually, like that. I wonder where the expertise comes from, though? Don’t get me wrong, I have no issues with autodidacts - a great deal of the greatest minds in history were partially or completely self taught. But that said, being self taught does have certain pitfalls. So if you are self taught, understand that I consider the possibility - and even likelihood - that you’re wrong.
Now… Here’s the thing, though. Genetics differs from this discussion in that the theory behind it does describe a circumstance where purple eyes can exist. Whereas here we’re talking about two types of personality theory, neither of which is actually accepted by the field of psychology as a whole (in spite of some studies) - which is not to say that I think either one is actually just nonsense - and neither of which was actually developed to take the other into account. They each look at different things in different ways, and there’s overlap between all given types. I haven’t seen any real studies done on the relationship between MBTI types and Enneagram types. Have you? (If yes, please send a link.) Not internet polls, etc. Peer reviewed studies. Because regardless of method used to type, at this stage the statistics you’ll find online still rely heavily on self reporting and aren’t really backed by any real study.
Yes, whether psychology is considered science is still up for debate to some, and yes, I consider psychology to be a science, and I consider both MBTI and Enneagram to be entirely valid. But lacking some proper scrutiny it devolves into a bunch of people deciding arbitrarily (because no hard evidence) that something they consider to be possible only in theory but impossible in practice, is impossible in fact.
You don’t think I’m right about my type? The only action I can take is to invite you to put me under a microscope or ignore you. And since I really do enjoy learning, I’m opting for the first option. If you don’t take me up on that, it’s your problem. If you do, but with a mindset that you’ll only confirm your suspicions and you let that bias you, that’s your problem. And here’s the kicker - no matter how much you scrutinise me, as matters stand right now you’ll only be able to make use of the information I choose to give you, so any assessment you make is still flawed. For the same reason those statistics mentioned above are.
So the only step that can really be taken is for you to treat my claim with suspicion and disbelief, me to continue stating that I am what I claim to be, and us moving on from this. I’m open to being convinced otherwise, but you’d have to get past the fact that I’m already pretty sure about this - just as you are.
I don’t understand what you are trying to point to me with the description of 854 to be honest. It’s not an explanation as to how you could be an INTP 8. That 8 description can apply to any arrangement of the 458 combo and probably even other people if you have the right combination.This isn’t a great explanation to an “INTP 8,” which @midlink has already mentioned is unusual enough to raise skepticism.
Also, the -A/-T additions seem to me like another way of telling how healthy someone is, how confident or lacking in self-esteem they are, etc. They are a little redundant when the same phenomenon can better be explained better by what someone’s enneagram type or actual functions are, or simply by their mental health. Not to mention that someone’s not always going to be a “-T” So while I believe you have typed yourself using your understanding on functions; I don’t understand why you are using these.
You also have a really poor way of making judgements on people’s intentions in interpersonal situations (which I haven’t talked about), which honestly an INTP would do a better job at. I’ve agreed with you that I do need to amend my perspective as I learn more about someone and that it’s true you might have to talk to someone to type them accurately, but there’s also literally no Fe in the way that you talk. If you were to ask me, I personally think by your tone, writing/talking style and reasoning alone that you have Te. The fact that you keep talking about “hard evidence,” “polls,” and encouraging for me, an Fe-dom, to make a judgment solely based on what you tell me about yourself, only makes me believe this more. Fe does not work like that unless the person thinks they need more information. If you are still trying to give the impression of someone who is an INTP but trying to evoke a reaction by acting like a mistyped person, you’re not doing a great job at it. There’s only so much your own cognition can fake.
No Ti user here is that concerned about stats or cold hard evidence on MBTI/enneagram, unless you legitimately have any proper argument to make as to why any theory might not logically work. They deduce what would make sense from what is already known and check it through observation with other people. As long as these two things together Work that’s sufficient enough to not have to talk or think about Scientific Evidence tm for the most part. Also you asking for hard evidence(???) is…very off-track. What are you trying to get from that? Solid Proof that certain combinations are much less likely than others? I’ve already argued about the lack of Scientific studies done on MBTI/enneagram and how every Ti user is aware of this yesterday already so I don’t have an interest in repeating myself.
“ that something they consider to be possible only in theory but impossible in practice, is impossible in fact. “
Something like MBTI/enneagram theory that hasn’t been Scientifically proven by a Scientist tm is not necessarily something that is impossible in fact. It’s something that, if it makes sense by reasoning and observation, has yet to be proven wrong by reason or true/false by a scientist.
I was not interested in typing you personally in the first place. I like to argue and evoke reactions from people for fun and to make personal observations based on what reaction I get out of you and others. But there’s no point in anyone trying to personally type you and help you if you are wrong if you’re going to write the whole thing off as “I’m sure of my type, and you can only type me based on what I give you”.
One last reblog. If you would like to discuss this further, please do send a message.
Skepticism is understandable. What I was trying to say is that an 854 personality is - in my view - far more likely to fit with an INTP than other 8 personalities. Yes, it can apply to any arrangement of the 458 combo…but that includes an 8. Still, skepticism is understandable.
I use “-a/-t” because they’re useful. Makes it easier to describe what I’m saying. My meaning is pretty much in line with what you said. Confidence, etc.
I’d say you still don’t really have much information to say I have a poor understanding of people’s intentions in interpersonal situations - this is, after all, a single interaction - but that isn’t really a useful way to go. We’ve already established that far more information is necessary to correctly type someone.
I didn’t consider myself to be encouraging you to judge me by what I tell you about myself. My intention is to say that you don’t really have any other accurate sources of information.
I also wanted to make the point that I’m not concerned about statistics and hard evidence concerning MBTI and Enneagram. The reason I brought those up was the comparison to genetics - a hard science which does have those. The point I’m trying to make is that opinions such as it being possible in theory for an INTP to be an 8, but so unlikely as to be impossible in practice, are still just personal opinions based on the fact that the people making that judgement have not encountered that combination before and don’t think it’s likely. Comparing it to Alexandra’s Genesis while lacking actual evidence seems frankly ridiculous to me.
Lastly, I was not interested in being typed. But when I made a sarcastic post about this, suddenly my type was called into question. So if I’m to be told I’m wrong about who I am, I need to be told who I am. Do I think you’re likely to be right? No. But I’m open to the possibility.
Fundamentally, every argument youve made, even “trolling” ones, have been fi+Te. That’s all anyone is trying to say.
-a and -t are not useful, they’re dark mbti theory that one person made up and is actually explained by enneagram/instinctual variants.
An “intp 8” is likely:
-an entp
-an enfp
-in integrating intp 5 (but unlikely for someone like you who gets this whiny over the internet)
-sp dom 4 entp/enfp
-a 3
-an intp 9w8 or cp6w5 sp dom
If you’re “thinking theoretically”, you’d realize that there are inconsistencies in “8” and “intp” that cannot make sense together no matter how you look at it. Why can an isfj not be an 8? Why don’t estj 2s exist? Infp 8s? Because those things don’t make sense together.
Even some rarer combinations, like an so blind exfj, or an enfp 8, make sense in some way. There is SOME factor (usually multiple) that allows for that to happen. Intp 8s have no such factors.
The reason people are “judging you” despite you not asking for it (and you subsequent EXTREMELY fi Te reasons for saying these things, please just look at your own arguments… “you don’t know me!!!” And “actual evidence” over and over isn’t helping your case) is because you replied to a post on the internet, and other people replied to it with their opinions who happened to disagree with you. Did you know that’s how public websites work? Amazing concept, isn’t it.
Finally, lol @ you deleting half of your replies from your blog. And taking things to private messages. Why? That’s not very 8 of you.
MBTI and ASMR
Hey MBTI enthusiasts! I’m curious to know if MBTI function usage has anything to do with enjoying or disliking ASMR.
Reblog or reply to this post (or send an ask) with your MBTI type and your opinion on ASMR. If we get enough response to this post I’ll make a chart for your informational pleasure!
Isfp- i HATE it
isfp - hate it, awful, cursed
INFJ - It depends. I dislike the speaking ones, but I enjoy the ones that are just sounds.
INFJ: speaking ones make me uncomfortable and the sounds ones don’t have much affect on me? I’m more into the visually pleasing stuff
ENFP: Most of them trigger my misophonia. My brain HATES most atmospheric, “quiet” noises and it’s even worse if they’re amplified. I am capable of getting the response that people who like these videos get from them, but I get it from orchestral music, not people eating bread and brushing their hair.
ENTJ - Immune to it (I don’t feel the braingasms), therefore indifferent.
ENTJ- Immune to it, yet also, the sounds are typically rather obnoxious therefore I avoid the videos.
i think “i wish platonic dates with friends were a thing” is another way of saying “i want a deep emotional intimacy.” it’s a new age. shallow friends are easy to find and hard to let go. the two of you can sit for coffee, talking about nothing, secretly texting under the table that you want to leave. she begs you to come to the party but abandons you once you’re through the door. he won’t talk to you outside of class, won’t even look at you even though two weeks ago you kissed.
it’s the age of the internet and our empathy is evolving. yes, isn’t long-distance now so easy. there’s a lot we have to be thankful for.
but there’s a lot that’s changing. there’s no words for the emotion you feel when someone is taking a picture with you that you know is only happening because they want to look fun and popular and you’re a prop; there’s no word for when you know it’s because you’re uglier than them and it makes them look good - there’s no word for watching people socialize for social media credit. we know it happens. not just “hang on let me take a picture of my food.” not just “i’ve got to text my mom back, one sec.” i mean that strange distance between two people who comment on each other’s posts but cannot connect in person. i mean you pour out your soul on twitter but then clam up in person. i mean internet loneliness; the sensation of 212 thousand followers and still so empty, knowing if the plane goes down, the ocean of the internet will wash out your memory.
“i want a friend date,” she says, and he snorts - you mean friends?
it’s hard, sometimes. finding a best friend. when i was little i had an assignment about it. i remember crying in the hallway because i didn’t have one. everyone else in class did. i wrote about my shadow. i didn’t fit in. over the years i’ve had a couple. one turned out pure evil. a few were my best friend but i wasn’t theirs, in the end. a lot just drifted from me until we were only friends by nostalgia, not connection. but i ached for the feeling of a best friend the whole time: the person you can be silent with, the person you can be wild with, the person you can be 100% yourself with.
we live in a society where romance is said to be the only space you’re allowed to really be close with someone. how many of us have said to make sure you marry your best friend. we know from dating that there exists a kind of connection we don’t always get in our friends - even a platonic one, a connection of spirit, a freedom of behavior.
i get it. a platonic date sounds wonderful. it’s not hurting anybody. let’s both have three seconds where we’re honest with each other in a raw kind of way. it’s terrifying. or we could just talk about what’s bothering you. i’m also still fucked up about the avatar: the last airbender ending; i also don’t get katara and aang.
it’s about trust. about vulnerability. so yeah. maybe i’ve done all kinds of platonic-date things. but i’ve also had the opposite happen: the non-friend. someone you don’t want to cut out, not necessarily - but not someone you can tell your secrets to in the end. i think what we’re all asking for is to be less lonely. we want to get close to people, but we don’t want to seem like we’re hitting on somebody.
come on out with me. we’ll both dress up and drink wine and split the bill and talk about deep things. be best friends for a moment. lord knows i need one. what i’m asking is for a quick moment of emotional intimacy. of reality. of not-just-here-for-the-party. i think a date sounds lovely.
guys…guys….do I need to say it??
sx blind
Some people are lonely and/or not interested in a romantic relationship and/or asexual/aromantic, Janet. That doesn’t make them sx-blind.
this post is sx blind though and if you don’t understand why, then you’re sx blind sorry I don’t make the rules
@alexsaurus it’s sx blind because OP doesn’t really understand how close relationships work/function, doesn’t get boundaries, and seems to think that being close to friends is ~exceptional~ and ~rare~ nowadays when it’s really not. For many of us, it’s the norm. It doesn’t even occur to me that people can be “using” me for popularity/rep points because I DONT THINK THAT WAY. I don’t see someone take a selfie with me and say ~oh boy this is just for show isn’t it~ since that’s not how MY brain works. I have to have a REASON to think someone is using me, it’s not something I think automatically. I don’t feel like a prop because I don’t THINK of things that way. Awareness of these social concepts is indicative of so. Combining this with Not Getting How Friends Are Close or Friends Being Close Is Clearly Rare outlooks is indicative of being sx blind. There’s your explanation.
“there’s no words for the emotion you feel when someone is taking a picture with you that you know is only happening because they want to look fun and popular and you’re a prop; there’s no word for when you know it’s because you’re uglier than them and it makes them look good - there’s no word for watching people socialize for social media credit. “ this is the stupidest most incomprehensible thing I’ve ever heard. It’s so sock it physically pains me. But also clearly sx blind, since it implies a DISTRUST of intimacy, an ASSUMPTION that people are doing things “for points”, when they might not be? It’s so strange
No one is saying aros/aces are always sx blind either(I’m aro and clearly not sx blind, and I’m far from the only one).
i thought i should chip in bc i reblogged this originally
i’m sx-blind and i think the variants are a great way to examine your behavior and examine the behavior of others. op (sorry if you’re not into enneagram op lol) is coming from a perspective of struggling to understand how to be intimate with someone outside of a romantic relationship, which is ofc something sx-blinds can absolutely relate to – we struggle with defining each person as a person instead of a role and that’s just something we need to address? sx-blind fundamentally has an issue separating a person from social performative behaviors and forging that intimacy with them, that’s the facts. no one’s shutting down sx-blinds or praising so-blinds in this post, every blind spot has weaknesses and things they need to work on. there are clearly many people (probably ppl struggling with sx) that can relate to this post, and people who find this way of thinking completely alien and ludicrous. it’s the fact that anyone could even have this perspective is what makes the post sx-blind, which is hard for people who share this perspective to understand bc we just assume everyone is like that
Tfw an unhealthy ESTJ drags you into petty high school drama.
Bruh.
queen-mbti said: best kind of drama is high school drama since it doesn’t last forever, enjoy it while it’s there
Agreed, but she’s dumb, so to win I just have to avoid giving in. So it’s not really fun.
Fight her. Make more drama then there was before. So much that it erases the old drama and you run wild and free in the mayhem you have created.
I’m dying. That’s what I’d do if I were an 8w7 sx/sp.
It seriously works though. In Junior high I had a girl try to bully me, so in turn I tried to set her on fire. She never bothered me ever again and everybody was very polite to me from there on out.
-ENTJ
http://www.psychology-tools.com/empathy-quotient
Scored 33.
Apparently 30 or lower is indicative of possibly being on the autism spectrum.
Jokes on them cause I am on the spectrum.
I think I scored 12 the last time I took this.
55 😅
??I thought I was going to get a high score but?? I got 25??
14. Ouch.
@entjheda @scallien @versaillles @mafiyafiyaxiii ?
22. I thought I wouldn’t have a score as high as @neon-lake‘s, but I didn’t expect to be under 30 tbh.
@queen-mbti, @faces-in-unexpected-places, @dreamyintp, @glittermbti, @istj-hedonist
I also got 25 out of 80. :/
My problem is that I want to be empathetic–for example, I think that the people already in a conversation should make others welcome, rather than waiting for them to join in–but I just don’t understand other people’s feelings or conversational conventions very well, and I’m terrible at predicting what will offend people.
I think there are probably different ways of being empathetic or unempathetic: whether you feel others’ pain when watching movies, whether you try to include people and avoid offending them (what you value), how good you are at it, your desire to belong to a group and resonate with others (probably correlated with Fe).
I got 68
36
11
@aviesaurum
20
Would be lower but a lot of these questions are strictly about autism and/or a lack of FE (neither of which apply to me) so
5
-ENTJ
22 -INTP
ENTJ: I've begun to think I should stock up on little debbie snack cakes because I always want them but never have them
ENTJ: So I have a box right now and I'm going to buy two each week
ENTJ: SO I'LL ALWAYS HAVE THEM
Search Through your Bag/Purse
What in there is the most stereotypical for your MBTI type?
Personally (as an ENTP), I have a rubix cube and seven rolls of dollar store magnets.
INTP - Can’t be bothered to carry around much more than your basic wallet/keys/phone.
ENTJ - three phone chargers
ENTP: four undeposited cheques and a bag of nails from IKEA
ESTP: a gun, passport, and bullet speedloader
NTJ - Currently I have three different forms of I.D.
INTJ - A Schopenhauer book.
The rest is just hygiene-related products, which is kinda… ISTJ? I cannot live without hand sanitizer. Enneatype 1′s “OCD”.
ENTP - a pocket-knife, flash drive, 11 different keys, map of amsterdam, deck of cards from a casino in las vegas, moleskine notebook, pen, murakami book
INTP- My 3ds and ds games, my keys, a brush, a lock, my pencil case and my notebooks for cal, physics and chemistry. I had my laptop in there earlier though before I took it out.
ENTP - School books and notebooks, pencils, note cards, laptop, chargers, headphones, Rubik’s cube, calculator, and a portable mic.
ENTP (pockets because!! i cant find my bag .-. )- seven bouncy balls, A Critique of Pure Reason. A notebook, which is entirely blank except for one page that says “jellyfish are assholes. life is unfair”
ENTJ- Wallet, antibacterial wipes, mini-lysol, gum, extra tongue rings, pen, notepad, gun, lactaid pills, eyeglass wipes. Come add on to this, INTP.
I need an enneagram 8 to rant at right now please
Rants are a social construct
You dominating me is a social construct
That’s not a social construct, it’s just an everyday occurrence.
Take it
Just rant already, you know I’m over here waiting with baited breath and all
I need an enneagram 8 to rant at right now please
Rants are a social construct
You dominating me is a social construct
That’s not a social construct, it’s just an everyday occurrence.
