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[Hashisako Rin] How are you guys planning to distinguish between Rin-chan and Rin-chan? [Kawana Rin]

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1: 名無し募集中。。。＠＼(^o^)／ 2020/11/02(月) 22:32:37.60 0 I guess “Rin-chan” is Hashisako’s vested right after all? Are you guys gonna help out Rin-chan (Kawana) somehow?

2: 名無し募集中。。。＠＼(^o^)／ 2020/11/02(月) 22:33:02.84 0 Kawana-chan

3: 名無し募集中。。。＠＼(^o^)／ 2020/11/02(月) 22:33:17.48 0 Kawanan

4: 名無し募集中。。。＠＼(^o^)／ 2020/11/02(月) 22:33:31.89 0 Rin-chan The old Rin

#angerme #hello! project #hashisako rin #kawana rin #hello project #matome #translation #hellopro

Since I’m not updating song translations on this blog as often, I’ll list links to new song translations I’ve put on the H!P Lyrics Wiki recently (Many are just retranslations of officially TLed songs):

Morning Musume

LOVEpedia

Ningen Kankei No Way Way

KOKORO & KARADA

Shabondama (retranslation)

Daisuki Dakara Zettai ni Yurusanai (retranslation)

ANGERME

Kagiri Aru Moment

Mirror Mirror

Juice=Juice

Pop Music

Tokyo GLIDER

Abarete kka?! Have a Good Time

Gin’iro no Telepathy

Tsubaki Factory

Mou Saikou!

Ima Nanji?

Country Girls

One Summer Night ~Manatsu no Kesshin~

If you appreciate the work on the wiki, feel free to leave a comment on any page, and, if you have time, anyone is free to help out!!

#hello! project

Oh no, the link you provided for "Wada Ayaka - une idole" lyric translation has gone... Could you provide alternate translation, if any?

The person who did that translation has deactivated their twitter and I’m not sure what happened to them.

I’m not going to put their translation on the wiki without permission, so here is a link to an archive of it.

From ♪Hello Pro All Stars - YEAH YEAH YEAH --> Ah pointo kigen ga kiretara nanka / "When the validity of points get expired" ---> what "points"?

It’s a metaphor for general “points” you gain in life for doing the right thing etc.

If you put it in the context of the whole song (see my retranslation)

“ Ah, loss and gain aren't all there is to life Ah, but when the points I've gained expire I just sort of get annoyed“

So I interpret it as something like, the main character knows you shouldn’t do things just for what you can lose or gain through them, but when the “points” she thought she gained don’t seem to help her, she gets annoyed.

Any alternative translation for "naseba naru nasaneba naranu" aside from UFP's? (from Kobushi Factory - Naseba Naru)

Since it's a proverb, the meaning is pretty set and it usually gets translated to the equivalent English proverb "when there's a will there's way" which I believe UFP also used.

The full proverb is "naseba naru, naseneba naranu nanigoto mo" (為せば成る、為さねば成らぬ何事も) and literally it's "if you try you will succeed, and if you don't try you won't succeed, no matter what it is".

For extra information, this site tells me it comes from a poem written by the feudal lord Uesugi Harunori for his vassals in the Edo period. To my understanding nasu (為す) is kind of an old form of suru (usually する but with kanji it's 為る) which means "do" and it's kind of preserved in the keigo (honorific speech) form of suru which is nasaru/nasaimasu (為さる/為さいます) which also relates to the command suffix nasai (なさい) which is in phrases like oyasumi nasai or gomen nasai. And then naru (成る) is "become" but it can also mean "succeed".

The common phrase yareba dekiru (やればできる) "you can do it if you try" is basically identical but in more casual, modern Japanese.

#asks

Could you do retranslation for "C-ute - Kanashiki Amefuri" ?

I’m sorry to keep you waiting so long, Anon.

Here it is on the H!P Lyrics wiki.

I enjoy taking your Japanese questions, but I do wanna give the disclaimer that I’m not a native speaker or someone with a degree or qualifications in the language. I’m just a nerd who reads a lot and takes a meticulous approach to translating.

Any alternative meaning(s) of the word ポツリと as in Juice=Juice's "Potsuri to" ?

As a matter of fact, the weblio Japanese dictionary lists 5 meanings.

I’d say that only two of them are directly applicable to the song, but I’ll summarize them all:

1. falling in small gentle drops, like trickling rain 2. creating or having a small single hole 3. being solitary, isolated from others (how UF used it in the official TL) 4. saying few words, sighing out or muttering things 5. cutting a string partway though (it doesn’t seem like this a particularly common use of the word, and this meaning is usually putsuri rather than potsuri)

Given the context in the lyrics, I’d say the meaning in the song is a mix of 3 and 4, but mostly 3, just like the UF subs translated it as. The main character is always right next to her love interest and yet she’s isolated and alone.

More from "Dokyuu no Go Sign" --> please elaborate / give alternative meaning from this unique lyric part 轟轟豪語 (Gougou gougo). Like, man, Kodama Ameko-san is really genius at play-word :0

轟轟 = thunderous, roaring, generally loud

豪語 = to brag or exaggerate, talking with big confidence

The UFP lyrics translate it as “Boasting like roaring” which is pretty accurate. I checked the same lyrics interpretation I mentioned for your previous ask, and they described it as meaning “I’m gonna say big things in a big (loud) voice!”

I think if I was translating/localizing it, I’d want to preserve at least one “Go” to keep a little of the pun, and also make it sound kind of fancy/old-fashioned, because it’s phrased like a 4-kanji idiom, which have an old fashioned and refined vibe in my mind, so I think I’d go with something like “Go on and boast, in a voice so loud it thunders”, or maybe even replace “boast” with “sing your praises” because then it leads nicely into the operatic singing part right after that line. (What a weird song Go Sign is, haha)

By the way, check out this awesome archive of translated Hello! Project videos and other content!

#announcements #not my work #hello project #hello! project

Hello! Project Lyrics Wiki

So, as mentioned before, I’ve set up (with a lot of help from Kica of Cafe Kica and others) a wiki for H!P Lyrics! Anyone is free to join and edit!

I’m currently slowly working on getting all the translations I’ve posted here on to the site, though I don’t mind if anyone else wants to help with that (I’d be very thankful, actually). Anything from this blog or Cafe Kica, or any of the other sites in the “affiliated sites” section on the front page, is free to be posted on the wiki! If you have your own translations or color codes, you can also post them as long as you’re fine with them being stored there.

At the moment it’s unfinished, but I’m working on a tutorial to make it really easy for anyone to contribute, and until then there’s a lot of guidance in the resources tab in the navigation as well.

From now on, I’m likely going to post new lyrics translations through the wiki, but when I do I’ll try also make a post here, especially if I have any commentary on the song. (Do you guys actually read the commentary? I end up writing it either way, haha.) I’m also going to start doing liner note translations, which will also be kept on the wiki (See Atsui! for an example).

I do have some other non-lyric translations that I’ve been meaning to eventually finish and post here, so in due time they will appear here.

#announcements #hello! project #Hello Project #jpop #morning musume #just putting tags in so people might find it

Could you help me elaborate the meaning of this lyric part: Jibun rashisa tsuranuku tabi ni / dareka suriheru sekai (From "Morning Musume 17 - Dokyuu no Go Sign)

The literal translation is something like: “This is a world where every time I stay true to myself, it wears someone (else) down”.

I did check a Japanese lyric site about this line, and they pointed out that “dareka” doesn’t necessarily exclude the protagonist themself, though I think I take the lyric as meaning one person stays true to themself and another person is hurt or upset by it, however subtly. Note the lyrics before it are “People’s worries mostly come from relationships with other people/Who exactly do you want to be judged by?”, so this line is saying that being yourself is bound to rub some people the wrong way, leading to being judged and having problems with people. It could be applied to a lot of things.

Tsuranuku (貫く) can be kind of a hard word to translate, it can literally mean pierce all the way through something, but it usually (probably almost every time I’ve encountered it?) means to stick to something (ie principles) or carry something out to its end. You can check weblio to get a vibe of how it’s used.

Hope that helps!

Following up with the translating official MV's, could you do J=J Suki tte Itte yo~

sorry to make you wait!

My retranslation is on this page! https://helloprolyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Suki_tte_Itte_yo

If any of this blog’s dear readers would like to participate in helping fill up the wiki I’d appreciate it :^)

A small announcement, I made a new blog for non-H!P related translations. I’m hoping to post a variety of lyrics from other idol groups on there, including some of my favorite groups like Philosophy no Dance and AOP. Check it out -> Kinou no Mirai

I’ve deleted what the rest of this post said, because the situation is actually looking like I may stop using this blog for lyrics translations in the near future. Instead, I and some others are going to work on making a wiki of Hello! Project lyrics, so that they can all be found in the same place (and you guys won’t have to send me asks about it :^) )

Look forward to it!

#housekeeping #not a translation

Can you translate the recent music videos? I know UPF doesn’t do a great job translating

I actually think UFP’s translations have gotten a little better since they started. Usually in terms of conveying the meaning, they’re more or less fine, and it’s more the English phrasing that has problems.

That said I don’t mind doing a retranslation, as long as you tell me more specifically what songs you want.

Can you translate Tsubaki Factory’s album?

It’s on my to-do list!

Can you please translate CHICA#TETSU’s Tanaka Gateway?

Vince aka QueenAGonna has translated it! https://twitter.com/queenAgonna/status/1205176070661652481

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