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Let them hold hands, JPate stop being a coward.

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that’s literally their family jjcleo won so hard the day they met pope!! jj always working for the Heywards as he should bc that’s his familythen cleo when she joined the family now look at them stressing the Heywards!

pope really gave 2 people who had nobody and nothing a whole family house room and so much love an loyalty

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S4 PART 2 SPOLIERS!

I AM SO SADDDDDD AND MADDDDDDD!!!!!

So, I just finished OBX S4, and ughhhhh, I can't even truly express all the feelings I have right now.

The Sarah preg thing truly wasn't needed. Sarah has gone through so much crap and has been at the forefront of the show for 3 SEASONS now. She didn't need this arc. The writers had the chance to leave Sarah alone for a season and focus on their other characters! You make JJ the obvious forefront then give Sarah a baby storyline??

John's character was and still is obsessed with his father so nothing new.

Kie didn't do anything so nothing new. (Her dad did help JJ not get shot so that's cool ig)

We still don't know anything about Cleo and her wants and desires which sucks. They connected her to Terrence and revenge which is annoying.

Pope took the fall for JJ and got put in jail. (I liked the parallel)

It sucks how Pope's chances of doing something good with his life are withering away more and more as the seasons go on.

Rafe "helping" was fine. I think this character change happened 2 seasons too late.

JJ DYING?!

Rest In Peace Jackson 'JJ' Maybank (NEVER CALLING HIM A GROFF OR GENRETTE)

That was the dumbest writing decision they ever made. I wholeheartedly believe that his dad "Groff or Luke) should have gone before him. (or Kie since her character does nothing)

WHY JJ?

and I bet in s5 IF Sarah has the baby...(cuz with all the climbing, running, jumping, starving, and almost dying she does I heavily doubt that baby is alive) they name it Jackson or JJ like he suggested.

JJ saving Sarah was sweet but I wish we got more of a JJSarah moment out of that.

THEM BROTHER ZONING US WHEN POPE CALLED JJ HIS BROTHER

S5 will be the pouges getting revenge and Jarah's baby MAYBE being born...I have a feeling this is going to be the worst season yet.

S4 WAS WORSE THAN ANY OF US IMAGINED.

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OBX S4 SPOILERS AHEAD!!

so I'm typing this at 7 in the morning after watching part one of s4 and boy was it a buttload of s1 all over again.

and I mean that in a good way lol

first off, let's get jjpope out of the way...

jj said I love you to Pope 2-3 times which healed my soul and they had a bunch of good moments. but ofc with 3 canon ships in the way it's going to be hard to find stuff for the non-canon.

now to the canon ships...

THEY HAVE LEFT JOHN B AND SARAH ALONE! FINALLYYY!

my newlyweds are happy and committed. That's all I want for them.

Pope and Cleo, they are so cute and I want nothing but the best for them.

jiara was fine. their chemistry was WAYYYYY better in this half-a-season than in the last 3. Obviously, the bends scene was the writers' way of giving them screen time. happy to see my boy jj happy and kie is getting back to her s1 roots which I'm ecstatic to see.

now to the other stuff...

The story this season is really interesting.

I like all the callbacks to s1. I like that the pogues feel like a true friend group again. I LOVED the way they have done group splits so far. each pogue has been split off with every other pogue! Also, I love that you can tell the pogues are experienced now. They are getting away with some much stuff that would have taken all of s1. If this really is their last season and they keep up the pace...dare I say this might be a hell of a way to close things out.

Topper is such a loser. no character arc just a simp who's butthurt and is all bark no bite. Hoping for less of him pls and thank you.

Sofia...STAND TF UP!! everyone in this goddamn town is money hungry. either be with Rafe or betray him just stop going back and forth.

John B having flashbacks about his dad is sad but realistic and I hope he comes out with a healthier mindset.

R.I.P Terrence

I had the strongest feeling he wasn't dead since one of TV's biggest rules is "no body, no death" meaning if we didn't see him get killed then he's not dead. But now he is so I hope he rests in peace.

JJ spending all the money pissed me off. Kie is becoming less annoying by becoming her s1 self again. JJ is also going back to his s1 roots but only to get on my nerves all over again! Like I love JJ and his story is now one of my favs but if he keeps f-ing up he might move down in my rankings.

speaking of jj...why is everybody getting mad at John B when JJ does someone wrong. and when decisions need to be made all the pressure is on John B. I get that he is the so-called leader of the group but leave my man be!

Pope, please keep being the smart man you are. love it, keep it coming, no notes.

Cleo, I can't wait to see you get ur revenge arc. Just keep being the badass you are, no notes.

The JJSarah sibling storyline is still afoot! JJ now knows that his mom has passed and that Luke isn't his real father. But we still don't know who Sarah's mom is! They have been laying it on thick about family and being there for each other. Sarah was really intrigued by the Blackbeard research and seemed more distracted in some scenes than others. Plus Ward's favoritism to Sarah makes more sense if Sarah isn't his real child. Maybe he adopted the hidden second child from JJ's mother and raised her as his own. With JJ knowing his ancestry and now his real father maybe Chandler Groff will reveal to JJ that he had a twin sister that was taken before they found him and his dead mother so his dad doesn't even know who his missing sister is.

Maybe that's why Chandler Groff is getting his long-lost son into Blackbeard's treasure...to find his missing daughter.

This theory is so far-fetched but it's not impossible.

Rafe wanting to fix his family and reconcile with his sister has been a main point in the story as well and what is Rafe doing to "fix his family?" buying goat island which held the first piece of Blackbeard's treasure which is really JJ's treasure! JJ, Rafe, and Sarah are all connected just like that. Plus Chandler Groff looks a lot like Ward in some ways lol.

I was so scared for this season and though I'm not getting what I want ship wise the story has got me hooked.

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Almost time...

s4 of obx is almost here so I'm going to immediately watch and make a post tomorrow about the first half. I watched the first 9 minutes on insta and man do I have A LOT to say. Can't wait for it. Here are my s4 predictions for those who haven't seen the post:

JJ and Sarah somehow connected to BlackBeard (maybe canon siblings)

Chateau rebuilt

Jarah (John B and Sarah) stays together, Pope and Cleo stay together but might have mutual feelings to end it (Hopefully for JJPope and KieCleo and/or JJClope reasons), and Jiara (JJ and Kiara) is broken up.

The pogues hate the kook life and willingly live like pogues, or something happens that makes them live like pogues.

JJ, Sarah, and John B live together (Maybe Kie as well since she wouldn't want to live with her parents after they had her kidnapped.)

Rafe gets arrested or is already arrested. (Or dies)

At least one of the pogues realizes they aren't straight (Excluding John B since he's our token straight lol)

backstories on JJ, Sarah, John B's moms

Denmark Tanny flashback

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SEASON 4 PHOTOS!!

OBX posted the S4 trailer and some photos so I'm going to give my thoughts on the pics and in another post give my thoughts on the trailer.

THEY LOOK SO GOOD (and clean!!) It's crazy what some kook money and shower will do.

The girls look fab per usual. Hoping this is one of the Pogues' new fancy kook houses 🤞🏾

THEY DID THIS FOR ME (and the 2-3 other jjclopers) LET THEM HOLD HANDS 🔫

THEY ARE CUTE!!

like I love jjpope and jjclope but if they both can't happen then leave these two babies ALONE

I hope they are locked in this season. No cheating, no lying, no distrust. Keep them together writers.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🍅🍅🍅

make this Kie's and JJ's coming out moment plsssss

I hate kie, but I still hope her character gets better. the first step is to be broken up by jj and focus on herself.

HOW ARE THESE WHITE BOYS NOT IN JAIL??

Topper and Rafe have enough charges from Sarah ALONE to get them locked up. let alone all SIX of the pogues! The countless attempted murders, straight-up murders, stealing, framing John B??? and SO MUCH MORE?!🥲🥲

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Sarah is a JJPope shipper just like the actor that plays her 😌

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How he talks to/about her v.s. How he talks to/about him

I'm back with more analysis' about JJPope and why it's better than anything either of them had with Kie.

Today I'm talking about JJ and how he speaks of and to them and why the difference in how he does it speaks VOLUMES.

JJ talking about Kie (S1): "Of course, I'm hitting on her. She's a super-hot, rich, hippie chick, slumming with us. Why? I can't figure it out either, but who cares, bro? I know that door's locked because I tried it. Have you?"

JJ talking about Pope(S2): "Ain't all that bad. Just look at the guy over there. He would do anything for us. That's a Pouge if I've ever seen one. Bone-deep. That's just one man's opinion, though."

THE DIFFERENCE.

JJ talking to/about Pope:

"For once in your life, trust someone else."

~~~

"You're the golden boy."

~~~

Topper: "Hey, I just wanna make sure everyone here is okay with ending up in federal prison."

JJ: "Uh, if it gets to that, yeah, I'll do it for Pope."

~~~

"I'm here for you, Pope. Welcome to my world, okay?"

~~~

JJ talking to/about Kie:

"And you--I mean, you're already rich as fuck anyway. Why would you bother?"

~~~

"Okay. Not all of us can afford unlimited data plans, Kiara."

~~~

"Hell of a job melting it down, Dr.Frankenstein."

~~~

(I don't need to put anymore as all of JJ's quotes for Kie are from the first half of S1 lol.)

As you can see, JJ speaks highly of Pope and lowly of Kie. He sees being a pouge as a badge of honor and gave Pope the highest honor. He sees Pope as someone he can relate too and shares a deep connection too.

He doesn't see that with Kie.

And I hear Jiara stans saying "What about S3? He was so worried about her and went back to get her!"

And to that, I say, "Yeah...cuz it's JJ."

His number one trait as a character is his loyalty. It's his best trait as it shows how much he will do for his friends. But also his worst trait as he puts his friends over his own being and in the end it only hurts him.

JJ would have reacted the same if it was anyone else in that situation.

Like when John B was a wanted criminal, JJ did anything for him. (risking to get arrested himself, shooting cops, and being by his side when he was on the run)

Or when Sarah is dealing with Ward or Rafe, JJ is always watching over her. (running after a car that held a drugged Sarah unconscious in the back, jumping in a shipping crate to get her and the cross back, staying by her side, and keeping an eye on her when John B was found guilty in court.)

And even Cleo who just joined the crew, JJ makes sure to treat her like the rest of the pouges. (like when he praised her for convincing Pope's parents to let him go to South America)

And we all know that he would do the same if not more for Pope. (going to jail for him, almost getting arrested for him again, taking over an entire boat of men to get his cross plus Sarah, risking being seen with him at Midsummers when he was supposed to be undercover, taking a beating from his dad for him, fighting for him at the outdoor movie, being super protective about him anytime he was around Limbrey and Renfield, keeping the secret that Pope was the one who actually sunk the boat and lying to the others, bringing Pope to his cousin Ricky's house to save his life even tho Ricky was still pissed at him for stealing his ambulance.)

And many, MANY, more.

The way we are introduced to JJ who loves and protects Pope but pushes Kie aside

versus

The way they "built up" S3 JJ for a toxic relationship with Kie but as a result of that he has to push Pope aside.

The writers and creators gave us s1 JJ, that's how his character was made and supposed to be portrayed. S3 JJ was built off toxic fans who threatened their way into an unfortunate canon ship.

Toxic stans = Toxic ship.

You Jiara stans wonder why JJ felt out of character, or why the Jiara chemistry felt forced or fake. That's because it was.

You can't force chemistry.

All the OBX cast did chemistry reads to see which duos worked together as a couple and which didn't. But the one duo that did not do a chemistry read was JJ and Kie (Rudy and Madi)

why?

because the creators saw no need. as they weren't even thinking of getting those two characters together. JJ was supposed to end up with Cleo. That was one of the many reasons Cleo came back as a main character.

What they would do with Kie and Pope, I don't know and I don't care. But Any ending would have been better than canon Jiara.

Anywaysssss

JJ treats Pope like he's his partner

and

JJ treats Kie like she's his sister

But let's be honest...we all see that, don't we?

Editor's note: Sry this took so long lol, life's been busy :)

[jjclopelover]

I NEED THEM ON MY SCREEN NOW.

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Cooking up another JJPope (plus kie) analysis

[bomikalover]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

First JJPope fic kinda nervoussss

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SO GOODDDDDDDDDD

GO CHECK IT OUT PLEASEEEEEEE

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it seems like the show has made it canon that jj is a submissive bottom as he wears a bandana on the right side of his trousers and thats queer code language for bottom

so basically we are probably getting bottom jj top pope endgame boyfriends husbands s4/s5 #jjpope

This is some interesting info! Let’s see if it takes effect in S4 🤷🏾‍♀️

[jjclopelover]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JD!! Your character is the brains of the group and awkward and adorable anxious ball of emotions which literally describes me as a person lol. I’m so happy seeing your character on screen and seeing him grow in confidence every season. Can’t wait to see your acting career continue to take off and I hope you have a pope-tastic birthday!!!!

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MADISON!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THIS RAY OF SUNSHINE!! Though I’m not too fond of Kie lol, I adore you and the way you carry yourself. You are never scared to showcase a smile even in the toughest moments. Hope you’re spending some precious time with your partner, family, and friends plus eating a bunch of cake 😂

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Happy Birthday Carlacia!!

Happy Birthday Carlacia!!! You play the badass Cleo on outer banks and without you, the pouges wouldn't be complete. I love your positive energy, great fashion, and your posts about food lol. (I'm a foodie as well bestie) I hope you celebrate with the ones you love. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

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This JJSarah edit is on loop for me. Like I've already discussed how much I love the JJ and Sarah being siblings theory but this edit shows the story they could of/can have. It's so bittersweet and real, both JJ and Sarah need this platonic bond if I'm being honest. JJ’s character’s biggest flaw but also best trait is his loyalty. He sees the pouges as his only family so he would do anything to protect them since losing them would mean losing his only family. And Sarah’s the same way. I would say she's just as loyal as JJ! She destroyed her entire relationship with her real family, ruined her reputation, and left her entire life behind because of her loyalty to John B & the pouges. Sarah has no family anymore, she can't even say the pouges are really her family like JJ does because she doesn't have that long-formed connection as he does. John B’s her on-and-off boyfriend, Kie just became friends with her again because of some poor communication, jjpope she’s friends with but the bond still needs to be formed, and Cleo is the newest in the group so the friendship is still new there. They both don't have that real family love since their mothers left and their dads constantly tried to kill them. The other pouges have family issues aswell but JJ and Sarah’s stories are so similar that they can be there for each other like no one else can. I am just really hoping that Season 4 focuses on our blondie's connection to Black Beard and then it’s revealed they're siblings or long-lost twins. I also discussed that I want Wheezie back in the show more so maybe Sarah could be fighting with Rose for custody of her so that she can be in the safe hands of her 2 big siblings (JJ and Sarah) + the pouges instead of stepmama rose and sociopath Rafe. Also, JJ being super soft and protective over his sisters is something I wanna see. It's such a different kind of dynamic and really adds more to JJ’s character. We've seen him go to far lengths to protect his friends that are like family but how far would he go to protect his friends that become his actual family? Ugh I can't wait till season 4 comes out, I have such high hopes 🙏🏾

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MADELYN!!

HAPPY 26TH BDAY TO THE LOVELY MADELYN CLINE!!! Madi you are a ray of sunshine and Sarah is the perfect girl she is because of you so I want to thank you and wish you the happiest of birthdays!! Hopefully, you spend it with loved ones and eat tons of cake lol.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHASE!!

Happy Birthday Chaseeeeee! I hope 13 (31 lol) treats you well! Teenagehood is upon you! But seriously I love you and John B so much. And here's to hoping he gets a break next season lol. Happy Birthday you curly-haired beauty.