Its so important to remember that when Shane says "Ilya noooo, Ilya ewww, what the fuck Ilya" that this is him giggling and kicking his feet. The man is not a killjoy he just loves being chased.

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Its so important to remember that when Shane says "Ilya noooo, Ilya ewww, what the fuck Ilya" that this is him giggling and kicking his feet. The man is not a killjoy he just loves being chased.
How do you know you're not Asexual? Maybe you just haven't met the right nobody.
Odysseus walks up, wags his eyebrows at you, then proceeds to infodump about his beloved wife and how he can't wait to get home again.
i know this was like a month ago but jacob on the shift saying what makes connor so perfect for the role is that he was so good at playing âwhat i wanted out of ilya, which was a slyness. that ilyaâs always trying not to laugh, especially at shane. that he doesnât want shane to realise how much he likes him, and how charmed, how endlessly charmed he is by making shane uncomfortable. it actually lights him up inside, he really loves it.â
literally the mandate of heaven that jacob tierney has đđđ it lights him up inside i-
something something ilya likes to cause a hurt then soothe it.
these images are the same to me. he likes to push too hard to bruise to needle to sink his teeth in to know heâs making an impact. and then follow it up with a good fucking or to say in so many words i love you. to know he is loved enough for his impact to be felt. it lights him up inside. and god you just KNOW shane bruises up so pretty, and he looks so pretty when he cries đŽâđ¨
and by popular demand. of course shane has built up so many layers of protection in his unimpeachable skill his work ethic his diet his routine he is going through the motions like a little roomba living in a state of desperately hoping no one looks at him long enough to see anything real. heâs constantly at a remove from the world his walls are up so high. and here comes ilya who does look too long who wants to touch and push and prod and provoke, who gets a reaction out of shane every time. those carefully built up walls and he crashes through them so easily. for shane i think it has to hurt a bit to feel real đľâđŤ
I was thinking about Shane's propensity for clarifying questions and how funny they can be. (I think we've all made some cracks about "is it very upsetting" or "sick like...crazy?").
But it occurs to me that the first real clarifying question that we see him ask is not a question exactly, but it's "with Rozanov's permission" in that press conference.
Because Shane can see that Ilya's struggling. And Shane really has three options here: ignore it and let Ilya flounder on his own, use it to his own benefit, or jump in and save Ilya but possibly wound his pride in the process.
Shane is autistic. We know that. We also know that he probably does not know that. But he probably does know what it's like to have people jump in and "help" him in ways that sometimes make things look or feel worse. (As much as we love Yuna Hollander, I can't imagine that her overbearing presence made things easy for a teenaged boy on a sports team.)
So he asks. In a very practiced, almost casual way. (and more personally with the foot touch). He waits, for the acknowledgement and the nod, and only THEN takes over the question. Afterward, Ilya gets his chance to answer in a way that makes him look cool and unconcerned. He gets to keep his pride.
I feel like sometimes we blame Shane's autism for a lot of things that happen in the series, but I think this is one point where it was actually a benefit. Because Shane is used to asking questions about things that other people would take as a given. And because Shane is used to having well-meaning people "help" in ways that don't always feel like help. So Shane is able to give Ilya what he needs in this scene (and probably cement the idea that what should have been a one-night stand is definitely something worth revisiting.)
Hi, my life's a fucking shitshow but at least I can offer you â¨crocheted hollanovâ¨
That's it, that's the post. Enjoy!
ohhh they got me with this
I have to admit, I can't see Shane and Ilya ever doing one of those playoff sex bans.
I know athletes are superstitious and we did hear about beards and all. But they spent so long with so little time together as it was, I can't imagine them willingly depriving themselves on one of their few opportunities.
Besides, if episode 4 showed us anything, it showed us that they play shit when they're not fucking. So for the sake of their respective teams, they HAVE to bang. It's the law or something.
Shoutout to âRandom Third Guyâ.
Hollanov are laying the foundation of the gayest Ice Hockey scandal ever and he is just happy to be there.
Relating to my other post, I find it actually rather annoying when folks insist that Ilya going to Ottawa somehow makes him "dependent" on Shane, or otherwise "shifts the power dynamic of their relationship."
That's complete nonsense.
Ilya is a grown man with his own career. He takes a temporary career hit to go to Ottawa, that's true. But it's not like anyone assumes that Ottawa's subsequent failures are his fault. He's still getting paid, either way, and if he really wanted to leave, he could probably find a way. (I think we also forget that Montreal and Boston would have been bad at the start too, if they had the 2nd and 1st draft picks.)
Ilya didn't need Shane to turn the Centaurs around to the point where they can make the playoffs and ultimately knock Montreal out of them. He didn't need Shane to make the Centaurs into the strong team that they are in TLG.
Ilya is also a grown man who, at least normally, is able to manage his social life. He left Cliff and Svetlana back in Boston, sure, but as I said in that another post, he's got a phone. He can pay for airline tickets. He's a millennial and millennials absolutely know how to manage long distance relationships. Hell, he and Shane have been managing for their entire career.
Ilya didn't need Shane to reach out to Scott Hunter, Ryan Price, and the other Game Changer protagonists who end up coaching at the camp. Ilya did that on his own.
Ilya didn't need Shane to befriend the Centaurs. He didn't need Shane to foster a good relationship with his coach. Shane isn't the reason that the Centaurs become people that Ilya feels comfortable enough with the idea of coming out to.
It is true that Yuna and David are a package deal with Shane. As much as they love Ilya, if Ilya and Shane split, Shane will probably get to keep his parents. But otherwise, every friendship Ilya makes, or could make in Ottawa is up to Ilya.
If Shane and Ilya split up in TLG, Ilya doesn't lose his ability, he doesn't lose his team, he doesn't lose his salary, he doesn't lose his friends (except probably Yuna and David). The Irina Foundation might be an interesting question, depending on how the paperwork is drawn up, but more likely they'd still operate it together.
(I'd actually be kind of interested in that AU...)
Ilya doesn't even lose out on residency or citizenship because he's been working in Canada all this time.
Ironically, the scenario where Ilya DOES end up dependent on Shane is any scenario where he stays in Boston and becomes a Canadian resident/citizen through marriage. (He could become a US citizen, of course, but that's a separate issue and at this time isn't something that he's said he wanted to do.)
Ottawa is a tough move, sure. But that's because moving is tough. Making a new home is tough. Making new friends is tough. Going from a good team to a bad team is tough.
But Ilya's not a child and he's not entering into an unequal relationship by doing this. Shane does not have any personal advantage over Ilya in this scenario (and as we soon see, he has his own personal issues going on.)
We don't need to infantilize either grown man in this relationship. They make their own choices.
this one goes out to everyone old enough to be watching heated rivalry like đ¤Šđ đ¤¤đŹ
HEATED RIVALRY S1E05 "I'll Believe in Anything | S1E04 "Rose"
There's something that vaguely bothers me when folks talk about Ilya "giving up" his support system to move to Ottawa.
I mean yes, obviously he's isolated. But I feel like Ilya's isolation is more about his depression than it is about the actual relationships in his life.
Yes, Cliff and Svetlana are back in Boston. But this series doesn't take place in the 1980s. This is 2021. Texting is a thing. Group chats are a thing. Discord is a thing. Every millennial I know has a number of very close friendships with people they've never actually met.
He's also a millionaire who can easily afford airfare for a weekend away, if and when his schedule permits.
Ilya had a relationship with Shane for seven years before they were in the same country. He knows how to have a long distance relationship.
And it's fair to note that when it comes to HIS support system, Shane's not in that different a situation. Rose is not local. She an actress who lives primarily in LA (I presume.) Shane's parents see him regularly, but they live in Ottawa. The only people Shane actually has that are local to him are Hayden and JJ.
The difference is, Shane doesn't have depression and is able to reach out and maintain these relationships. But it makes sense that he doesn't realize that Ilya isn't doing the same thing.
Moving to Ottawa certainly didn't HELP Ilya's depression, but I think the fundamental issues that he's having are issues he'd still be having in Boston. He needs a therapist, and happily, he does end up getting one.
((Tangentially, if anything, I think Ilya has a better support system in Ottawa than he does in Boston. He's been there for three years or so as of TLG, and feels comfortable enough with the Centaurs to WANT to come out. Which is not something he's ever expressed regarding the Raiders/Bears.))
Did anyone ever like attempt to document and compile the variations of Barney the dinosaur murder ballads across the elementary school system in the early 2000s. Like legit it has always fascinated me as a phenomena and I would love to know if there were like traceable regional variations or what.
Looking at the tags so far Iâm kind of fascinated by how much the âI Love Youâ parodies vary in their phrasing/murder weapons but the âJoy to the Worldâ ones are nearly identical
here is my collection of barney murder songs as they appeared in the notes and comments of this post at about 4 pm pacific 7/25, somewhat arbitrarily color coded to show similar memes. it appears that "baseball bat and 2x4" is the mode configuration but there is so much variation that that exact phrasing only makes up a small part of the set. if i knew more about statistical modeling i would turn this into some kind of data tree that shows which phrases are most likely to follow other phrases.
Hey so not to be all "what the fuck, Youths," but...what the fuck, Youths
Is it wrong that my first reaction is "hey, I don't see the ones my friends and I did!"
(It was late 90s for us, but we were all terrible high schoolers.)
Mostly I remember that ours didn't even make sense. And I thought this at the time!
"With a BB gun, bang! Barney's on the floor! No more purple dinosaur!"
I mean, a BB gun isn't generally lethal, right? But maybe the logic is that a non-lethal gun would somehow be effective to kill a pretend dinosaur when real weapons wouldn't?
This puzzle has lived at the back of my mind for almost thirty years.
I don't really like being churlish about fanfic, but there's one fic concept that really irks me.
It's the idea that Ilya, to "protect Shane", would publicly act like/pretend he's the bottom in the relationship.
First of all, people are going to joke how they're going to joke. And I'm sorry, but if we compare the two's public persona, then the people who are making these jokes are already using stereotypes to decide who tops and bottoms.
(The fact that they're correct in this case is immaterial really.)
But the big thing is, I think that just reinforces the idea that there IS something inherently less masculine about bottoming. If bottoming does NOT have all of the connotations about weakness and femininity, then what is Ilya "protecting" Shane from?
Especially since Shane IS the bottom here. That is what he likes to do. He prefers "being the hole to the peg." If Ilya goes "I'll let them think I'm the bottom and they'll make fun of me instead", why would Shane NOT take that as "being the bottom IS something to be made fun of"?
I think Shane would be upset about the bottom jokes, at least at first, because he's generally a fairly private person and has been used to keeping their relationship a secret for so long. I don't think Ilya saying "no, he's actually the top" would fix that. And I think he'd be offended at the idea that Ilya would think it would.
And also, honestly, there's an implication here that I don't think is really true: the idea that Ilya doesn't care about the perception of his own masculinity. And I think he does care. For all that fans bend over backwards to say otherwise, Ilya doesn't present anymore feminine than Shane does. They are both men.
And we know Ilya does have issues appearing weak and/or vulnerable with pretty much everyone but Svetlana and eventually Shane. Just because Ilya's more comfortable with his sexuality in general (at least, when they're not in Russia - which is admittedly its own issue), that doesn't mean he hasn't internalized his own ideas here.
...I suppose that it COULD be interesting to have a fic where ILYA is the one with internalized ideas about bottoming which causes him to make the offer to Shane, who would be offended by the idea that Ilya apparently thinks his sexual preference is something that he needs protecting from. But that's a variation I haven't seen yet.
Usual disclaimer of course: my idea of characterization comes primarily from the show and I recognize there are significant differences. It's possible that folks who are more familiar with the book versions will feel differently. I personally still think it's a problematic trope though.
10 year old shane hollander at a m&g with the scott hunter. rookie of the year and 1st round draft pick. the photo is signed and heâs holding hunters jersey posing next to him đđđť
15 years later ilya rozanov gets ahold of this photo and somewhere in new york scott hunter feels an imbalance in the universe. like the tectonic plates have moved. thereâs a tsunami coming and he canât stop it
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