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Hi! I've seen antis are finally admitting Elsa and Anna are separated, and they changed their tune "well, sisters should be apart!" How hypocritical.
I’ve been told, better late than never, took them 1 year.
And about the “they should be apart”...ok, let’s discuss this. Why?
Because it’s what happens in real life.
Wrong. If you want realism then unmarried sisters lived with their sisters in 1800, especially royalty. And if they want realism...they a princess wouldn’t marry a stable boy, a queen wouldn’t have magic, etc... Realism? Nope.
Because Elsa needs to be free.
She was free before (one random proof) , the only scene that hinted that she wanted to go outside and play with magic without hurting people was deleted (the one with Elsa and Anna on the balcony), and if we consider deleted scenes canon....then Northuldra asked Elsa to die for them, and Kristoff hates Arendelle and wants out. Do they want to consider them canon? Cause I’m in! ;) I have more to gain than lose from this!
Elsa felt overwhelmed as queen.
Quite possible. It’s normal. Everyone would.
Everyone, even Anna. Look at this:
Everyone focuses on what Elsa says, that she needs a break. She had people going at her talking about her dead parents all day...I would need a break too.
But what everyone always ignores, is ANNA’S REPLY:
“me too”.
She just looked at her sister deal with people, she didn’t even did the job, and she was overwhelmed.
So if Elsa needs a break once in a while...Anna does too. If this is a reason why Elsa shouldn’t be queen, then Anna shouldn’t either.
Codependency.
We debunked this so many times I’m getting tired of discussing it. People who have been apart for 13 years, and did eveything in their lives on their own, aren’t codependent. When KristenB mentioned it, she said she feels like that with her daughers and husband. Did she leave her daugthers and husband???? NO!!!!
She said she has the need to take care of people, and Anna does too, so her solution, when family isn’t close to her and she can take care of them, is to take “one step at the time”, and get through it.
She used codependency as Anna’s trait, dependence from “the feeling of taking care of somebody”, not of one person in particular!
It was to explain HOW she arrived to “the next right thing”, her mental process, from “omg i dont have some people here to care for”, ok “let’s do the next right thing and focus on small tasks to get through this”.
It’s a mental process, not a life-fix!!!!
Can’t pretend idiots to understand it, I get it, but after one year....Even my cat understood it!
So at least the “they’re not separated” farce is over.
The “they need to be apart” is simply aganist everything Frozen is. Sisters who have been apart for 13 years and just got together shouldn’t be separated, like every other true love couple.
They could work together, live together, and make kids happy.
“Fans” odd reactions
I see several claims of late stating that us supporters are taking this out of proportion, and are acting as if Elsa and Anna are never gonna see one another again.
The ones taking everything out of proportion is those who support F2′s contrived and unnecessary ending. Why? One letter. Just one letter, and you take such nonsensical “evidence” as Elsa and Anna seeing each other every second of the day. That is logical fallacy; your argument and just about everything in support of Frozen 2 falls short in the face of the overwhelming evidence that outright dismisses F2 canonical legitimacy.
If Elsa and Anna saw each other often, it doesn’t matter. Frozen revolves around them together, not each of them acting mutually exclusive with side characters that have no major role in Frozen. Fantasy is a world for escapism, not your cherry picked realism
Picture this, you see an advertisement promoting a house near a cliff, you ask how is the foundation, they say extremely strong, you buy it knowing this, the next day you go out, come back, and the house slides off the cliff and is destroyed. Now the natural response of anybody is to go sue the sellers or the company that constructed the building. As this is your right to do so.
However in this odd and unrealistic world that you have conjured, follows a belief that because someone built it, you can’t criticize their work. So when you go, the whole city tells you that you are wrong, stop being mean, and you need to grow up since stuff happens…. or even more worse, they say the house is good, and you can’t see that or just use your imagination and picture the house there. The company attacks you as well for rightfully complaining.
This kind of logic is exactly what F2 stans do, everyday.
Why would we who watched a show specifically for two characters love(Snow sisters), want them apart, and have a lack of content of them together. People staying together is in essence saying “You are my utmost priority”. Why take that specialness away all for nothing?
“Fans” odd reactions
I see several claims of late stating that us supporters are taking this out of proportion, and are acting as if Elsa and Anna are never gonna see one another again.
The ones taking everything out of proportion is those who support F2′s contrived and unnecessary ending. Why? One letter. Just one letter, and you take such nonsensical “evidence” as Elsa and Anna seeing each other every second of the day. That is logical fallacy; your argument and just about everything in support of Frozen 2 falls short in the face of the overwhelming evidence that outright dismisses F2 canonical legitimacy.
If Elsa and Anna saw each other often, it doesn’t matter. Frozen revolves around them together, not each of them acting mutually exclusive with side characters that have no major role in Frozen. Fantasy is a world for escapism, not your cherry picked realism
Picture this, you see an advertisement promoting a house near a cliff, you ask how is the foundation, they say extremely strong, you buy it knowing this, the next day you go out, come back, and the house slides off the cliff and is destroyed. Now the natural response of anybody is to go sue the sellers or the company that constructed the building. As this is your right to do so.
However in this odd and unrealistic world that you have conjured, follows a belief that because someone built it, you can’t criticize their work. So when you go, the whole city tells you that you are wrong, stop being mean, and you need to grow up since stuff happens.... or even more worse, they say the house is good, and you can’t see that or just use your imagination and picture the house there. The company attacks you as well for rightfully complaining.
This kind of logic is exactly what F2 stans do, everyday.
Why would we who watched a show specifically for two characters love(Snow sisters), want them apart, and have a lack of content of them together. People staying together is in essence saying “You are my utmost priority”. Why take that specialness away all for nothing?
Today’s headline:
People who consider elsanna a creepy and dirty secret reclaim ownership of a tag they need to praise a movie that separated elsanna.
🤪
Makes sense.
I get it, elsanna is your second frozen ship, you use the tag to entertain yourself when you’re in the mood for your incest fetish, but people use it for different reasons.
So, maybe, instead of pretending others will bow to your needs, block me and everyone else who fills the tag with content you don’t appreciate and move on. Would be more mature than throwing a tantrum.
I recommend it.
Happy birthday the one and only true queen, Elsa of Arendelle!
STOP SPAMMING THE ELSANNA TAG WITH ANTI-FROZEN 2 POSTS
This tag is for our creepy incest ship. Right now, you twats are being no better than the anti-shippers who spam the tag with hate posts.
I’ll double my efforts to post elsanna and frozen2 together even more now!!
Why? Cause you can’t tell others what to do, entitled asshole.
Block a tag or an account if you don’t want to see and move on, it’s not that difficult.
You can’t tell others what to do, LITTLE FASCIST!
‘Creepy ship’ 🙄 maybe make a ‘creepy Elsanna’ tag and move there? Cause I don’t consider elsanna creepy considering it’s between fake characters, animation, drawings, not existing girls!
I hated f2 and i love elsanna and when posts are related i’ll tag both. Don’t like it? Block me. But the tag is mine as yours. 👋🏻
werewolf-cuddles. Elsanna= Elsa and Anna together in a romantic sense. So people are obviously shipping them because they love the sisters together due to what they see as natural chemistry and True love. Going with this logic, what Elsanna in the world would love the sisters staying apart, and then harass others who want them together- as the ENTIRE FRANCHISE is about them together. Frozen 2 went against all of what was stated previously. So naturally as Frozen fans- who watch Frozen for Elsa and Anna together, we want them together. Imagining going to a restaurant, expecting a well cooked steak as it was advertised to you, and then they hand you a rotten raw steak, and all the patrons and chefs complain at you for wanting what was advertised, and preach that the steak is good... What logic is that?
So obviously we will use the Elsanna tag occasionally to get reinforcement as naturally and logically Elsanna shippers would want the sisters together, not apart. Don’t harass us please, just ignore or block, no reason to get heated and call us “twats”.
Elsa abandons her kingdom and leaves Anna in charge
Frozen would not have been a very good movie if it ended this way
Frozen 2 ended this way
Reach your own conclusion
Part1: "Elsa doesn't belong to Arendelle and the queen, she is a much better spirit, she belongs to Northuldra and Honey" an EM fan said. Well, I really like Anna as queen but I disagree with this way of thinking. (Hello, Frozen 1, Frozen Fever, OFA, comics, novels) Sorry but if they just say Elsa like that, they never understood the meaning of Frozen.
Part2: Oh, does that mean that Elsa would rather be a free person who just rides horses, plays with reindeer and salamanders, and looks at memories all days rather than having work? F2 will just be a mess to me, it doesn't deserve to be in the Frozen franchise.😒
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Ok I don’t want to laugh at them so let’s be serious for a moment: I don’t understand how they can say Elsa belongs with a character she shared a totaly of 30 (?) words with. 52 seconds of screentime!
I mean, I know they are heteros and they have low standards considering they’re KA shippers, but 52 seconds where Elsa doesn’t show any interest for that stranger...and they say she belongs with her?
Seriously?
At this point I’ll say Kristoff belongs with Oaken since they had way more screentime and interaction! There’s even a love-hate relationship, you know?
Here, let me use a fanart i’ve seen on 4chan days ago. I didn’t made it, and I can’t credit cause the one who post it was an anon.
This is it. Ask the KIDS, the ones who buy merch, the target of the movie.
ELSA BELONGS TO ANNA.
i love this meme xD
awww you guys I made Sammy of the hypocrites ppl sad :’( don’t be like me, don’t think for yourselves and don’t critize frozen 2 or hate kristanna and elsamaren if you want to, it’s bad
Consdering it was this scum of the earth person going around other ppl’s askboxes asking them not to talk to the “toxic” side of fandom like me and Isa and not the other way around… I wonder what’s his definition of toxic.
Must be fun being the friend of the fandom police lol
rats
Going around telling people to do or not to do something is bad. But speaking on behalf of the entire fandom and ostracizing people who multiship (or other people just based on their ship) is also bad.
I’m an Elsanna shipper through and through, I literally don’t care personally for other ships in Frozen. But there are people who ship Elsanna AND other ships, and you’re being very mean to them by saying we like to separate from them. Because most of us don’t. Great Elsanna fics came from people who also shipped other ships - and you can’t call them “fake” Elsanna shippers, as I’ve noticed you’ve been doing recently (maybe not you personally, but people in your “purity” circle.)
Now, other people lashing out at us for shipping Elsanna is fucked up. But us lashing out at other people JUST for shipping other ships is equally fucked up. And lashing out at viable Elsanna shippers who also dabble in any other ship is just straight up gatekeeping.
Ship and let ship. And support the fandom in a positive way.
Ship and let ship is really how it should be, we just use our tags and learn to scroll and shit.
On the other hand, I kind of get the description of the chat to sort of filter out who comes in so you don’t have folks LIKE Sammy come in to cause trouble- unfortunately the gatekeeping feel doesnt come out of nowhere.
Idk I want everyone to get along but that’s not even remotely human nature Dx
Idk, the gatekeeping I see in this situation comes mostly from (apparently beingpassionateabout’s) screenshotted post.
I agree that Sammy has done some bad stuff. I don’t aim to defend him for all of the DMing people and so on. But on a scale of bad to what the hell, the screenshotted message he posted is way over the WTH line.
You can not like ships. You can ship precisely one ship (I do.) But raining down on people and calling them Fake Elsanna Shippers just because they multiship or don’t mind/don’t care about the ending of the second movie is just sad. Double sad when it’s people who really do a lot of creative things for this (Elsanna, not Frozen) fandom.
I am not trying to be a dick here, but I…don’t understand how Andy’s own post on her own blog is more WTH than someone who went around to fans’ inboxes telling them not to talk to someone and at least in my case showed up randomly to guilt them for trading reblogs someone.
Because the post she posted on her own blog also shows up in the main elsanna tag (cause she tagged it.) It shows up for the entire fandom and SPEAKS for the entire fandom (“Welcome to the Elsanna fandom!”) It proceeds to tell that the entire fandom hates other ships, multishippers, and doesn’t care “about guys or the natives” (which btw is a very disgusting sentence that I don’t even want to go into.)
Sammy DMing people is fucked up. I messaged him and berated him as soon as I learned that he was doing it, as he seems to have also done it to people on my server. I don’t deny this.
But speaking for the entire fandom that we’re hateful and gatekeeping people (if you multiship you are a fake elsanna shipper and only us “purists” are right and good and you can’t sit with us) only serves to further alienate our fandom and can possibly turn off new people.
I sure as hell don’t wanna sit at the same table as KAs/EMs and disney bootlickers but to each their own i guess.
And it explains a lot why you’re so pressed about it lol enjoy your channel get emptier and emptier as you cosy up with the ppl who hates on us on the daily basis while we find ourselves another place to go and actually commune :) bye
what were we supposed to do? stay in a place where ppl hate us and they sent messages to our friends telling them to NOT REBLOG US. lol not even “dont talk to them”, but also “dont reblog us!”
Jesus. Btw add bigfrozenfan to the list of people who did it, ok? just so we’re clear. the list is getting longer, it’s not one person. And yeah I saw the DMs they sent.
So yeah, let’s keep sharing our love for Frozen, hate for Frozen 2, support BringElsahome among friends. Don’t like it? Good cause we don’t like you.
Simple as that.
Remember when Josh Gad made a Valentine’s day post with elsanna and called them TRUE LOVE (cause they are in canon the only “frozen” true love)?
Some positivity for the elsanna tag, since it’s something apparently people like. ;)
You ever get the feeling that the magic of Frozen is gone? Like even if they would get someone to fix the mess of F2 I feel like the magic has melted?
Because it is.
I don’t like how they changed the franchise and I tend to ignore it as much as possible.
I loved Elsa, the shy and introvert queen with magic, not the ethereal goddess. I loved Anna, the funny and exuberant princess, not the mature queen.
RIP Frozen.
The magic is gone - not because it’s been 7 years. The magic was strong right up to November of last year in the US.
Then we had a period of disbelief, anger and bargaining.
Now we just accept that the franchise is dead.
RIP Frozen. 😢
Hey @beingpassionateabout , this idiot followed me until last month, and isn’t she/he the one who asked you to build bridges few weeks ago? lol
I guess they change their mind.
Must be a REAL FROZEN FAN, the one who loves elsanna until they realize dicks are better and now they don’t want the sisters together anymore.
What can I say?
I had 3000 followers before being part of this fandom, now I have 4500. I guess they don’t all agree with you, asshole.
But you can talk all you want, and your words have the same weight of the shit of my cat, (and the same smell), but I’ll play the game:
- YOU CAN LIKE FROZEN AND DISLIKE FROZEN 2 AND STILL BE A FAN, because this is NOT a sept, dickypickley doesn’t decide for you, so don’t worry, you are a frozen fan even if you hate kristanan and elsamaren! XD
- Elsa and Anna are fake, unfortunately. But if they were real they would hate to be separated, I’m sure of that, and would not care of you and me.
- I’m a Frozen fan and I LOATHE WITH ALL MY HEART KRISTOFF, ALL THE NATIVES WHO LOOK LIKE A SEPT READY TO MAKE A HUMAN SACRIFICE (ELSA! RUN!) AT THE FIRST SOLSTICE, AND I HATE THAT SMALL BRAIN OF KRISTOFF.
Hey Sami, if you read me I like you. Since you’re not a fake native tribe who lives in a cartoon.
And guess what? I’m not racist for disliking FAKE CHARACTERS, DRAWINGS, NOT EXISTENT PEOPLE who have been horribly copied by someone who is real.
Are sami even brown?? Oh wait. NO.
your racist theory is a bit weird, imo. But if you think I’m racist IDGAF, really, if you think you’re hurting me with your words you’re mistaken, i’m LAUGHING, and this is what you should do with your opinion and your post:
- you’re not the Frozen fandom dicky, otherwise I’d say the fandom would be in pretty bad shape, and yes, you are right, you can’t make me leave.
So hey, enjoy my post!
You call me “supremacist”, but the ONLY SUPREMACIST HERE IT’S YOU, CAUSE IT’S YOU WHO CAN’T STAND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WITH OPINIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS AND THIS IS FASCISM.
YOU ARE FASCIST.
OR AN ENTITLED LITTLE DICKY WHO LIVES IN HER MOM’S BASEMENT AND IS THROWING A FIT AND EATING A CAN OF PRINGLES EVERYTIME SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET, STRANGERS, SAY THEY DON’T LIKE KRISTOFF.,
YOU’RE PATHETIC. AND SAD. AND WE LAUGH AT YOU.
Enjoy! :D
And AGAIN: GUESS WHO STARTED THE NEW DRAMA?
YOUUUUUU!! AGAIN!!!!!
YOUR SIDE!!!!!! AGAIN!!!!!
Is it true that Honeymaren and Ryder supposed to be Elsa and Anna cousins and they are both actually teenagers?
It’s something the person who translated the movie to my language told me. They got a folder with infos about the movie and the bios of all the characters.
It was June of last year. The Ryder’ bio said he was 17, HM was 16, and they were Elsa and Anna’ cousins.
Ofc they changed the movie so much that we don’t know if it’s still valid, but I hope it is ;)
I asked for pics but it’s Disney copyrighted stuff made for insiders and they wouldn’t risk their job to make me happy.
Anna: “I want to show you something really important”
“What does Anna want to show to her sister? Find out in the second part!”
The second part: she takes her to the bedroom.
She probably wants to show her how much she missed her since the last time she visited ;)
credit to bigfrozenfan 4 the comic
I was reading the new comic and I noticed that Elsa talking about the bed, about the books, the kitchen looked like she really missed these things, because none of that is in the forest, and that's a good thing, because it shows that Elsa didn't become Dora the Explorer overnight, she misses her things. And uh... "our room"? I thought this was E's room, buuuut I'm not complaining at all Lol. I was very pleased with the story and I cried a little ... twice
I’ve noticed the same thing, she seems nostalgic and I liked it.
LOL @ the “Dora the explorer” comment. lmao! That’s a nickname I’m gonna use from now on for Elsa! XD
And yes, apparently they have ONE ROOM. It’s in the book, it must be true. :)
