In the end, the only person who had his back at RBR was Max Verstappen. Nobody else had the balls or integrity.
(I mean publicly)
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In the end, the only person who had his back at RBR was Max Verstappen. Nobody else had the balls or integrity.
(I mean publicly)
āI really, really like Daniel,ā Albon reflects when asked for his thoughts on Ricciardoās departure. āI feel like he's a true character in our sport. I feel like he's very true to himself as well, and it's a big loss to see Daniel go. I saw the general response from the community of Formula 1, and we will miss him, not to say that he won't come back in some way. I canāt comment about the decision of him being replaced, but yeah, Iāll miss him for sure.ā
Alex Albon reflecting on Daniel Ricciardo's departure from F1 | via
Itās so clear there is a DR sized hole left in this sport now. I wish someone would comment on the decision! I need Sebastian Vettel energy and for someone to have some integrity. I know it canāt rest solely on Alexās shoulders, and overall, love the support, but even by Alex saying that, the giant elephant in the room is clear. How it all happened - still feels really wrong. As someone who came into the sport because of DR, I want to continue to love F1, but the way RBR have treated Daniel has really made watching the sport, leas enjoyable. I donāt think I am alone in feeling this way. Hoping as time goes on, it stops feeling so awful and returns to a fun escape!
I also wonder if RBR and RB would just acknowledge how theyāve not behaved in good faith - basically, apologize - I know, it doesnāt fix it - but could it at least give everyone closure? Not only did they unceremoniously cut him, theyāve also continued to talk shit about him and are contributing to the revisionist history of his career. Is that the part that is making this all even worse?
To Alexās point - about the F1 communityās response - I know itās naive to think the sport doesnāt keep moving along, but I wonder if or what impact this could have. Feels like they could lose a chunk of audience/engagement. I guess time will tellā¦
more hypocrisy ā¦
For all the focus on Red Bull's driver selection, an alarming trend that is detrimental for their young drivers is going unnoticed.
When it was Daniel in the car, somehow it was his poor performance when it came to a slow/bad car (never mind the P4 and P5s). Now, Liam isnāt even in the car yet, and itās RB thatās failing Liam and Yuki. PLEASE stick to a narrative, across all your drivers. The hypocrisy. The fact that each of these drivers are seemingly judged by such different metrics and expectations (they wanted podiums week in and out?) is completely not based in any reality. Tired of peopleās revisionist and echo chamber analysis.
Will anybody actually ask RBR CH or HM direct questions?
We want answers, and some journalistic integrity. If they believe Daniel wasnāt performing to their expected standards, not doing enough, not consistent enough - why is Checo (effectively same set of issues, but in a much faster/better car with actual consequences to the Constructors) NOT held to same standard? Why did they not give Daniel a last race, last season? Whether or not you think he deserves a seat, surely he deserved a real farewell? What did he do to deserve this exit? CH: You criticized McLaren and Zak Brown and effectively did the same thing as they did. Actually by dropping him mid-season, itās even worse. Why?
Why are they continuing to slander/eviscerate Daniel? Theyāve already gotten rid of him, why canāt they let him go in peace? Why are they treating him this way?
If theyāre continuing to slander him, why do they expect heād want to be in Reserve/Ambassador role?
I think we all have an idea of the answers, we even know how itās been talked around/not truly addressed. We see all the revisionist history happening.
Wish someone had the integrity and balls to actually ask them difficult questions. Let the uncomfortableness hang in the air.
Whereās Sebastian Vettel when you need him? I will never forgot his defense of Daniel after McLarenš«¶š«¶š«¶.
Everyone knows what RBR have done. Even, if they donāt ever want to admit it.
Really, justice for DanielšŖš¼šŖš¼šŖš¼
Daniel Ricciardo New Podcast Listen š«¶
Very nice podcast with some nice words for DR. Really insightful podcast and touches on his driving style and approach (very specific McLaren breakdown that I hadnāt heard before) and then at 21:50, Scott Mitchell-Malm talks about career highs, driver style, and sums him up as a person (his respect for him) and talks about people having revisionist history with regards to the whole of his career, beyond DTS. He also made a point to talk about DR being a consistently authentic person as well as highlighting his ability to communicate (and take criticism).
**Still need to listen to second half (from DTS EP Paul Martin) but wanted to share a great listen in this sea of sadness.
It sums up why weāre all such fans of DR ā¤ļø
Does anyone have predictions with DR leaving the sport (for now) - how will it affect F1 moving forward? Will it?
Genuinely, curious. The sport feels really changed for me. While there are other drivers I follow/enjoy getting to know - Daniel is irreplaceable. He brought me into the sport, he might very well take me outš« š« š«
I really need a serious journalist or real news organization to cover this Daniel story. Everyone in existing F1 media feels bought/paid for/scared of their access being taken away. Frustrating. Anyone with journalistic integrity ā¦pleasešš¼
With RBR trying to control the narrative, while simultaneously slandering Daniel, would be great to get an objective holistic view on this. The level of gaslighting happening š¤Æ
More hypocrisy, more rantsā¦
Fuck Helmut Marko. Honestly, why does he still need to slander Daniel? Youāve already made the decision. Not only wasnāt there a fond farewell, nor was he given the grace of knowing it was his last race. Post that shitshow in Singapore - heās still talking about Daniel! Just be honest, this was about money and politics.
To start, Danielās season wasnāt anything spectacular, but he was on a run of improvements and certainly not usually bad enough to be dropped mid-season or not given a known last race. That said, per Marko, if Daniel āisnāt performingā in that dumpster tractor - fine, but then have the decency to acknowledge Checo in an objectively faster car also isnāt performing. The hypocrisy yet again. Admit, certain rules and expectations are being applied to different people.. If Daniel didnāt do enough - why is Checo still there? Objectively, if itās about āperformanceā then they should both be out no? They acted like Daniel needed to perform miracles in that shit box, but fine for Checo to just get by most races (despite it potentially costing them Constructors). Never a fair fight. (Not trying to hate on Checo, just pointing out RBR/RB unfair expectations and narratives being put on Daniel). All to say, no one arguing DR should be guaranteed a seat/promotion/extension but I think most people agree (even non-DR fans) - a true goodbye or last race/season for 13 year veteran of sport - was deserved. His fucking family werenāt there because they didnāt know, he didnāt know until Saturday.
Last thing, Iām not condoning hating on LL, now or in future, but sir, read the room! You got the seat, you already won. The dream is in hand. To go around announcing you knew two weeks ago - have some humanity and emotional intelligence. Is it inexperience or is he rubbing it in everyoneās faces? He could have stopped at grateful for the opportunity, excited for the future.
Why has the whole ordeal felt so traumatic and hurtful? If weāre all feeling this, I canāt imagine what Daniel is feeling? As many people have mentioned, McLaren and 22 were bad, this feels worse. Permanent. And for all of CHās bitching about McLaren, whatās happened here is infinitely worse. Itās like a real betrayal from a team heās given so much to. Heās trusted them, and they couldnāt even be bothered.
ps if this was about 2025/2026 and decision was made two (or more weeks) - why did they string him along? Dangled the carrot with no real intention to follow through. The fact that they took advantage of his āRed Bull or bustā dreams is also gross. If they didnāt have intentions, they could have not tortured him all season. Maybe he could have had talks with other teams. Or enjoyed his last few races in peace.
so many should ofs, could havesā¦.
Will Buxton and Natalie Pinkham Responses - More Rambles
First of all, of course I am for journalistic integrity. Seeing what happened with Natalie Pinkham this weekend with the CH interview and peopleās response was a bit alarming. Even if she has a personal relationship, she asked the questions everybody was wondering and she did it respectfully. CH was the one being defensive. When he tried to pin it on her, she didnāt take the bait. She isnāt the TP - sheās trying to find out why theyāre keeping a lineup that doesnāt seem to be working at best capacity. Honestly, the day before Lawrence Barretto (and I think Will Buxton) were literally discussing why Red Bull made this surprising decision. She just had the opportunity to ask. If you donāt have an answer then donāt take these interviews CH! At this stage, I would have understood CH if he was just more honest. Either their car isnāt working for both drivers (tho there is a still a gap). Or that their drivers are here for multitudes of reasons. I mean if people are going to level Daniel with PR3 constantly then why are Checoās sponsorships not allowed to be discussed? Of course, every driver is going to leverage their positives (on track results, sponsorship, fans, time in the sport) to keep or gain seats. It is a holistic thing. The hypocrisy drives me nuts.
With regards to Will Buxtonās podcast comments. Heās honestly been such a fair weather supporter - and if thatās the case he should keep his personal opinions to himself. Absolutely no loyalty. That said, journalistic integrity is important/being able to constructively criticize is necessary. He was highly critical of DR when he decided to not take a seat 2023 but once he sensed he was back, ultra friendly to him. What I want to point out is first - his tone about DR and GR was so disrespectful. They may not be friends in real life - but theyāre colleagues/co-workers. Who speaks like that about the people you work with? If youāre having a chat/pint with your friends privately, speak how you want. Youāre on a public podcast. Secondly, the reason I am thinking that is, while he is a journalist, he is EMPLOYED by F1. They are technically his employers. Again, grey areas abound in F1š« š. Again, not to say he canāt criticize their driving results, or if theyād been accused of something horrific like CH, OF COURSE he should comment. This just felt like random personal attacks. First, just nasty to GR. And heās accusing Daniel of being nice - oh, he should be jailed. Again, personal grievances is a conversation better shared in private. Again, all for journalistic integrity. If he had framed his criticisms about their track results fair game. What he said felt spiteful. And it made me think - why are you basically blatantly talking shit about your co-workers? Just wrong on so many levels. Honesty, says more about character than either DR or GR. He sounds so unserious.
The Hypocrisyā¦
The hypocrisy of Helmut Marko. Somehow Daniel needs to drive faster to prove himself/earn a promotion because itās somehow only a junior team and he needs to be faster to be cinsidered for senior team. What else did or does he need to do? The last 8 races have seen improvement and consistency. While he had a rough opener, heās since improved. He does what he can with the car he has. Itās not like he has a championship capable car.
But Perez doesnāt need ro drive faster, just more consistently to keep his place on senior team. Theyāre doing all they can to help him.
Why is the framing so apparently different. Why are parameters different? Make it make sense. How do they justify the difference in treatment?
Please someone (F1 journalists) with critical thinking skills, please question this.
At the very least, if theyāre giving Perez this chance to improve/save his seat (for whatever reason) they could leave Danielās name out of their mouthes. Fair enough if thatās their agenda, but then, just leave Daniel alone/no need to speak about him. Who needs enemies when you have Helmut on your team?
Exhausted.
Nicole Piastri on finding out Oscar had signed with McLaren
āI was like thatās amazing and then it dawned on me what that meant and I was like āoh no.. oh no wait. Oh my God Daniel ⦠I love Danielā. And heās nodding, and just deadpanned was like āeverybody loves Danielā. And he was like āthatās going to be a problem. Of all the drivers ever, Daniel is the worst one to be replacing.ā
The fact that Daniel, despite a lowest point in his career, reached out to Oscar to say no hard feelings and didnt want his entry to F1 badly affected, and also then publically Oscar (or Daniel) acknowledging this had been done (so any Oscar hate could dissipate) - entitely wholesome. Itās why I am a Daniel fan, thatās the spirit of a worthy competitor and good human, and happy Oscarās entry into F1 actually probably had another layer of wholesome š„¹
DR Thoughts
Bottom line. Daniel Ricciardo has been given ultimatums and pressures up the wazoo the last few months. Relentless ones. Constant pressure. Whether itās from VCARB, Peter Bayer, Laurent Mekies, Helmut Marko, Christian Horner, the F1 media/pundits ⦠and it isnāt just for the Red Bull seat, itās for his VCARB seatā¦.his livelihood in the sport. He does all the things he needs toā¦.consistently clawing his way back into whatever good graces, results he needs. This weekend was going so wellā¦only for the team to do this to him with that horrendous strategy and then to barely acknowledge the teamās mistakes and not just really apologize so everyone can move on. I hope for everyoneās sake they have had debriefs and genuinely talked through and acknowledged their roles in what happened. I donāt believe the actual strategy call was malicious or pre-planned, but their response just feels terrible.
As someone else mentioned, hopefully, this becomes inconsequential when it comes to whether he continues in F1, since itās very clear itās not his fault, but he now has to deal with all the internet hate/F1 media. As he ended his post-race interview - making a comment on the race - and what were they expecting him to do? It feels like bigger picture - what more do people want?
For everyone saying he just cares about Red Bull, I donāt think thatās entirely true. Sure there are the ācareer ending there would be a fairytaleā comments but in no way has he been arrogant about this. It feels he only wants to be a part of the Red Bull family (why heās basically not considering other teams) because it was supposed to be the team that had his back. VCARB was feeling like it was adjacent to Red Bull, but today just felt like he was thrown to the wolves again. After the years he had at McLaren, this probably felt like a stunning disappointment for him. Again, hope the people who make such decisions know the reality, but just tough, that Daniel has to deal with public and internet hate from people who only see he scored no points this weekend. Itās so much more complicated and nuanced.
Many of his comments this weekend have been about - just a seat for next year. And another thing, if the Red Bull seat isnāt an option (which swings wildly from heās a shoe-in, to absolutely no chance and everything in between), so who really knows? That said, VCARB isnāt really giving Daniel a chance to build something real there either (all of the this is a junior team talks and arguments). They take all of his experience and use it to their benefit, but then he also isnāt considered number 1 driver. Sure, maybe his results have not warranted this. But honestly, what is he supposed to do? All season heās just trying to keep his options open by working hard, being dedicated and what will it be for? What else should he be doing?
I know, in the end, people who dislike him - dislike him and want him gone. But as people have been saying about Perez (which feels like Daniel/McLaren 22) can we please find some empathy? You can criticize these guys for results, but if theyāre working hard and trying, and are humans, some empathy and understanding wouldnāt be out of bounds.
But some people just want to hate. Thatās exhausting. Anyway, knowing, we canāt please everyone, it just feels sad, heās getting more hate that isnāt necessary. And given what heās facing, heās been absolutely amazing. And yet someone will still find a reason to criticize him.
Seriously, FEA.
What an upsetting day for DR and to be a DR fan. I hope behind-the-scenes they are dealing with this and hope we can move on from thisā¦
And hours later, still irritated and trying to find a way out of the rabbit hole. To clarify, he has my support always, but today was rough. If anyone has words of encouragement, would be happy to hear them ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
ciao!
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Another steam of consciousness on Mr Daniel Ricciardo and no sleep so apologies in advance if things are a bit scattered.
A little scared to post because tags have been intense.
Anyways....
Happy for Daniel. Everyone criticized him for taking a break last year (which he clearly needed) and not taking a Haas/Williams seat. People thought that he thought he was too good. Well, he's now taking a seat at the last place team, to rebuild and prove himself. He sees a pathway, but he's taking the step down in hopes for a long view move. He is a multiple race winner and probably could have retired but of course, unfinished business. Beauty of the sport. The comeback. He's allowed the chance to rebuild and is literally starting with a back marker team now and knows he has to prove himself. But now, people are pressed he is in a seat. Again, obviously Red Bull see something in him. If they weren't seeing some indication - based on Red Bull's history of being cutthroat - this wouldn't be a conversation. Even on that Simon Rennie/RB podcast, Simon mentioned not wanting to basically lie or hype Daniel up if the results weren't there. There's a trust there. Luckily, they saw something. They literally can't hire Daniel solely for markeing/PR. Does it help? Of course. Everyone has to find value wherever they can. There's only 20 seats people have to take their opportunities where they can.
Alpha Tauri is a junior team narrative. It was but they've obviously repeatedly put out there they're looking for a restructure with one experienced driver and one younger, and they're going to be using Red Bull parts. Two young drivers (unless you're a generational talent like MV) could very well result in little to no points and they're dead last right now. Haas had to bring back two experienced drivers to make up for the previous years of two young drivers. They need an injection of experience.
Pay Driver - He has not had a family member nor a huge corporation buy his way into the sport. He's built a career where people are interested in him - over 10 years - how can people find a way to penalize that? Again, he can't win. Just because he can pull in interest from huge sponsors - again, after years of building a career, that's just the business. If it was based on that person's definition alone - Lewis, Lando would also be pay drivers. But it isn't based on that factor alone. There's so many factors.
A lot of people deserve things, but this is a competitive sport, so nothing is ever guaranteed. Liam may very well deserve a spot on the grid, but you could also say he never would have had this opportunity if not for DR's accident. Also, if heās as great as people think he is - Iām not too worried for him. People keep going back to Alex Albon's appendix causing the string of recent events but sometimes I think - this all wouldn't have happened if Daniel hadn't left Red Bull in first place lol. Maybe he'd still have his Red Bull seat now! I don't mean that in a he shouldn't have left, just that his leaving kind of caused a similar effect and gave all these other people opportunities lol. But again, that's not really how it works. They're making decisions based on today's circumstances. And now, he's come back but has to re-earn his spot. His leg up is Christian Horner supports him, but he still has to perform to get back. Just think it's funny people are acting like, there won't be hard work or there's no talent (again, drivers don't forget how to drive). It's complicated and impossible to identify who "deserves" a seat more or less. So many variables and impossible to be definitive (the way some people speak as if they know everything/must be right). Guess, we could argue forever which is what's entertaining. That said....
Professionalism/Kindness. While I think everyone knows that the way McLaren handled Daniel's exit was in poor taste, never once did Daniel complain or make excuses. He was professional and continues to be. The results weren't there. When he was fired (let go, released), he understood it. Acknowledged the results weren't there and this was part of the sport (I'll get into that NY Times article another time - but it was clearly not for a lack of trying). Daniel called Oscar Piastri to tell him no hard feelings. Wanted him to still have a positive start. Even Checo has been asked about Daniel "coming after his seat" and presumably under a lot of pressure for 2025 and his response was also professional and an understanding of the sport. He said Daniel's a friend and there are only 20 seats, there's no hard feelings. It's up to him (Checo) to perform. They all understand. Nobody inherently deserves or is guaranteed a seat. Wish some fans would understand. If the drivers aren't publically pressed about it themselves - maybe everyone just calm down. People are just so nasty, and without actually knowing all the information. Twitter/X is the worst. This should be fun, juicy, competitive but no need to bring hate or be nasty.
That's all for nowš¤·š»āāļø. As always, happy to discuss but please be kind (or funny).
Daniel Ricciardo may not have gotten a point today, but he sure as hell made one
At the height of the DR to Mercedes rumors, you think it was that picture of Toto Wolff in DR merch that got Christian Horner and RB to make their move? š¤£š«