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When I said going back to your roots, I did not mean it in CGI!!!!
The art style was not the problem Rainbow, it was the STORY.
And of all seasons to redo, the first three are not the ones that come to mind.
The first three and the first movie remain the golden age of Winx and I will die on that hill.
It does not need to be "fixed" with CGI and a reboot.
WTF RAINBOW.
… aaaaanyway 💅🦋
The actress they chose for Flora is basically S8 Flora almost like those fancast for Aisha to be played by Zendaya!! They literally chose light skin actress seeing her with all the cast she looks the same as everyone so we technically repeat the same issue as Musa. I honestly would rather to have Morgan Nia Hilaire as Flora
Right?? She'd be a much better choice, but they couldn't even get their damage control casting right💀
white winx fans truly do not understand that rainbow wouldn't keep whitewashing if it wasn't profitable for them. it doesn't matter how racist they are, they're doing this to make a buck. if whitewashing proved to make them less money, they wouldn't do it. white fans that continue to buy directly from them, give them views on netflix, and literally everything else, do not realize how much they impact this. they can keep whitewashing because white people have proven they don't care as long as they can get their entertainment. it happened with the movies, it happened with wow, it happened with fate, and now it's happening with the merch. if you actually care about the lives of poc, put your money where your mouth is and stop giving rainbow money.
Is it just me or does the whitewashed Flora on the merch look really uncanny? It just looks so weird for her to be so pale.
Part of why it's so uncomfortable, besides the racism, is that this is kind of the most whitewashed she's been. She's literally the same shade as everyone else and there's little to no shading so there's not even a hint of melanin. (like. the couture style is heavily whitewashed but the shading adds a hint of color while this one doesn't at all).
Here's a visual comparison of some of the skin shades they've used for her over the years:
I added the shaded tone of her skin for the couture style so you can see the difference. The merch skin tone is extremely close to the lightest parts of the couture style without any of the shading that usually gets added so it looks a lot worse. The couture style tends to lighten their faces while the rest of their body gets this weird blend of darker shades so while it's still heavily whitewashed, it's not as light as the merch.
But anyway, part of why this merch is so bad is that this is the worst whitewashing stunt they've pulled in years (besides fate obviously). Flora is literally lighter than she was in season 8. Season 8.
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Things i want to happend:
Ok. Winx club season 9 will bring more shame our will bring back our truly Winx Club.
The specialists being specialists - fighting, on solo missions, not being just boyfriends who barely appear.
Helia's hair being long - or beautiful as in the beginning.
The original skin color from the characters.
More diversity (skin color, culture, etc).
Nabu's back to live (Daphne was bring back, we can do it again).
Male fairies (yes, they do exist in the canon - but they are not mentioned).
More about the families of the winx club (including the specialists) (we don't ever know the name from Helia's parents, or from Timmy, ever from Nabu - we never knew they names).
As I dwell myself more into the doll community, one thing is for certain that bothers me the most is how some of y’all will treat the topic of racial diversity like it’s a burden.
I don’t know why white people in the doll community seem to be the main ones to have the most heaviest feelings about racial diversity when it comes to skin tones, hair textures and different ethnic features that is usually associated with their race and most of the time you guys say that we should be “thankful” that we get a skin tone thats lighter than Sunny Madison or some other doll that looks racially ambiguous at best. Do y’all know how disgustingly rude y’all sound?
Adding one racially ambiguous black girl in a doll line isn’t “diversity” anymore, sorry to tell you this bucko! And adding a dark skinned doll as a way of your “damage control” isn’t as great as you think it is either, to me you clearly thought of that as an afterthought, which will never sit right with me.
I appreciate the doll creating process, I know it’s not super easy, but coming up with a concept of a doll that isn’t pale as snow shouldn’t be hard or even the standard in the industry anymore. LOL surprise OMG dolls seems to get the memo, but other doll lines…you know who you are, don’t seem to get that!
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Winx Was Already Whitewashed; The True Origins Of The Netflix Casting Catastrophy
People have argued since the Afro incident that Winx Club, and RAI in particular, are racist.
To sum that “incident’ up, a girl enters a beauty contest and, when cursed, ends up with an afro. Everyone laughs, and she runs away crying. Of course, this scene has been removed from most copies since it aired in the US and sparked the first of many “Is Winx Racist” debates, but it was just the tip of an unfortunately very big iceberg - one that Netflix simply added onto, but absolutely did not create.
Many of those who review the Netflix casting are caught up on nostalgia, referencing images of the cast that came out almost 15 years ago. They do this without realizing that perhaps Netflix was simply casting on the current, and very much whitewashed versions of our animated childhood besties.
First Up is Aisha / Layla
You might notice the double names. Aisha was her original name in the Italian show, but the 4kids North American dub used Layla. This isn’t actually a race issue, but a copyright one due to an existing similar Western character at the time, which was solved by the time Netflix gained dubbing rights Some claim this was actually an attempt at Americanising her, however, both names are of Middle Eastern origin, and not common in the US at the time, so that seems unlikely.
First introduced in season 2, Aisha / Layla was distinctively Black-coded. With dark skin, deep brown/black curly hair, dark eyes, and a sassy attitude, many fans were excited about the additional diversity she added to the cast.
In season 4, her look is updated, with now much lighter eyes, paler skinned and, weirdly, more orange-toned.
By the 8th season, her skin tone is nearly identical to Bloom’s, and her hair is a deep red instead of the original dark brown. She is entirely unrecognizable from her original depiction.
What About Flora?
In season 1 of Winx Club, we meet the shy, awkward, plant-loving Flora. She wears a strawberry skirt, off-the-shoulder yellow top, and platform heels that today’s teens would liken to Cottagecore.
But, most notably, she’s dark skinned with dark green eyes and dark brown, albeit streaked, hair. Though her actual race is never stated within the show, it has been implied by various team members that she was intended to be of Latina decent.
By season 4, her skin and hair are both lighter, now a more orange-tinted tan colour.. Her hair is wavy, loosing the end curly. This caused some to complain, but was largely put down to the new animation aesthetic, as well as trying to make her visibly different to Layla/Aisha.
By season 7, although some images appear similar to season 4, her skin tone noticeably fluctuates across the season, tending towards a lighter tone than is shown below, though ranging to more orange and pink tones as well. This has generated some complaints, especially when people are accused of altering screenshots that show just how much her skin tone fluctuates. Her hair at least is once again darker, almost to the original shade, but is now straighter than ever before.
And while season 7 is noticeably lighter and whiter looking than her season 1 counterpart, none of these changes could have prepared us for season 8.
Flora, once praised for being a softly feminine, and entirely visible representation in a genre where few of either existed in Western media, is unmistakably pasty.
Her skin tone is barely half a shade darker than Bloom, her always-pasty rehead friend. Her hair has been straightened even more. She’s neutral or mixed at best, and a brunette white girl at worst. She’s barely even Flora at all.
RAI’s excuses ranged from technology limits - which make no sense given side character and Aisha/Layla both have darker skin and hair - to making her look “better” - which obviously implies a lot.
But What About Musa?
In season 1, Musa is a blue-haired, pale girl with very narrow, wide-set dark eyes. Her Mom is also introduced with even more East-Asian coded features, while her Dad is a little ambiguous and has been argued as either White or Asian or mixed. Her outfits for the first 3 seasons are also very clearly inspired by a combintation of East Asian street fashion of the time.
By season 4, she’s dressing in a very clearly American style, and has been made much more feminine and soft, and her eyes have been made larger. By season 9, her eyes are standard for the series, her hair is significantly lighter, and many of her East-Asian traits have been effectively erased.
Now What About The White Girls?
Many people are surprised to realize that the white characters were also made, well, whiter, and neurodivergent traits, traumas, - even just unique personalities - were wiped out.
Stella, the tanned blonde, is no longer tan. And while this may seem minor, it shows that RAI’s priorities clearly lie with making literally everyone as white as possible.
Bloom is also paler, and her hair, once a fiery orange, spent a brief time being pink-toned before becoming orange-tinted brown. She’s less fiery, and seems to have lost all the trauma from being the heir of a ruined planet.
Techna, once very androgynous and read as autistic by many, now looks and act like a clone of bland Bloom.
Clearly, RAI has been a champion of making things more white since the moment the third series aired, so for those in the know, the Netflix casting - though disappointing - is hardly surprising.
much like how ‘I’m a republican’ isn’t ‘just an opinion,’ ‘I like the darker tone, I hope Fate gets another season’ is also not ‘just an opinion.’
do NOT act like supporting this shit is neutral.
you cannot say ‘I want more Fate’ and then act like you’re not endorsing whitewashing.
more Fate is more money in the pockets of racists.
“I'll always be disappointed that Winx Club has no dark skin black main or secondary characters. Aisha was always a lighter black girl and now she completely whitewashed. The darkest characters were in W.O.W. but they were either minor or only appeared in a few episodes. I feel that all shade representation is important and Winx is appealing to whiter and more racist audiences” -Anon
One of the only black background characters I could find. I know someone could argue the guy from the wizards of the black circle, the lady who helped bloom force enchantix, and Tritannus are black. But they are very light skinned and mostly appear as villains which is messed up. And all black characters in WOW have lighter shades and don’t say because of the palette. And Nabu another dark skinned man got killed. Why is one of the only black characters dead?
So losing my shit because I just found out Faragonda is actually in the World of Winx Universe. She’s in the comics and Aisha and Flora aren’t whitewashed.
Reposting edits I made of Flora & Aisha in their original skin tones 🌊🌷
The actress they chose for Flora is basically S8 Flora almost like those fancast for Aisha to be played by Zendaya!! They literally chose light skin actress seeing her with all the cast she looks the same as everyone so we technically repeat the same issue as Musa. I honestly would rather to have Morgan Nia Hilaire as Flora
Right?? She'd be a much better choice, but they couldn't even get their damage control casting right💀
ok I felt like some people need to hear this since sometimes I’ll be scrolling through arguments in comments about this.
lighting isn’t?? whitewashing??? people ‘call out’ artists on drawing dark skinned characters as whitewashed people without acknowledging the fact that there’s, for example, morning light on the character. ok let me explain
here’s an example. this isn’t whitewashing because this is how lighting naturally works (apologies for the shitty lighting drawn here I forgot how to do it LMAOAOA).
I hope people know that an artist isn’t whitewashing chatacters they’re just taking lighting into consideration. that’s like making a big mess about how they changed orange fabric to yellow fabric but ignoring the fact that the character is in bright/morning lighting
Can you guys please stop acting obtuse and using the lighting excuse to coverup whitewashing. When most people speak out against whitewashing its not because of this but in fact due to the fact that artists literally use the wrong hue to portray black and brown characters. I dont know about yall but as a black woman i dont magically turn into a white woman when the sun hits my face, but apparently thats what happens in the animation world.
Matrix Resurrections trailer looks cool but we not gonna miss an opportunity to Bring up Sophia Stewart & how matrix plagiarized her work
