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Update! Sunday 22nd November 2020
Chapter 20 - Souji calls Naoto to fill them in on the day’s developments…
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Updates a/o November 9th 2020
Chapter 17 - In which the Phantom Thieves emerge from the Metaverse, and…
Chapter 18 - In which Yusuke finds a place for the Phantom Thieves’ strange new companion…
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what did archive of our own do?
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You… do realise that people tag works as containing rape/paedophilia/incest when the stories are explicitly about those things being bad, and not just because they’re writing dark themes for reasons that you personally disapprove of, right? That tags merely state the presence of a thing without explaining how it’s dealt with in the narrative, and that stories do not have to be morally instructional and perfect and pure in order to be allowed to exist?
Like. You might as well walk into a bookshop and stamp BLOCKED FOR BADWRONG CONTENT on every book in the Song of Ice and Fire series, half of Shakespeare, every YA novel about rape recovery, every adult novel about rape recovery, every biography of someone who has suffered from rape, incest or paedophilia and been brave enough to write about it, every book of Greek, Egyptian and Norse myths, the fucking Bible - just a truly massive percentage of the entire global literary canon, because there is literally no way to remove each and every reference to these themes otherwise.
Do you know why schools and libraries are pressured to ban books like I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, To Kill a Mockingbird and Laurie Halse Andersen’s Speak? Because dumbass, scaremongering adults think that letting teens read about rape or racism or sexual violence or queerness or half a dozen other topics they think are Bad Things will lead to them down a path of Vice.
What happens to characters in stories, no matter how graphic or awful, is not the same as that act occurring to a real human person in real life, nor does reading or writing such works indicate endorsement of those acts. This is why a story which features paedophilia, regardless of whether it’s written as overtly sexual content or as a damning condemnation of the act, is not the same as child pornography by any legal definition: because no actual children are harmed. Are you personally still allowed to be angry and disgusted about the public availability of the former type of stories, even in instances where the writers are themselves victims of child abuse trying to process their trauma? Yes! You’re under no moral obligation to like any kind of content! But are you correct in asserting that the creation of such stories is illegal and hurting somebody in exactly the same way that a real abuser hurting a real child would be? No! Because fictional characters are not real people, and whatever our motives for creating or engaging with a particular thing, monkey see = monkey approve is not how it fucking works.
Have you ever watched an episode of CSI? Congratulations! By your own logic, you’re pro rape and murder. Ever watched an episode of Hannibal? Congratulations! By your own logic, you endorse cannibalism, Stockholm Syndrome and serial killing. Ever watched a historical drama where a young girl gets married to a much older man? Congratulations! By your own logic, you endorse child brides. And on, and on, and on.
I say again: you are allowed to be critical of particular works and/or the recurrence of certain themes across a particular medium. But arguing that an entire literary platform needs to end because some stories there contain Bad Things makes as much sense as banning the works of Octavia Butler or Sherman Alexie from school libraries because of their content. Which is - spoiler alert - a really bad idea.
UGH.
This gatekeeping bullshit has got to stop. I tagged my 200K-word story with rape because it’s JUST MENTIONED IN ONE SCENE that a secondary character was raped as a teenager years in the past. But someone might not want to even read it at all. Or they might post a comment to ask which chapter and can they skip … and I would happily fill them in on the other 3000 words in that chapter. I put extra warnings for non-canon extra violence on individual chapters, too.
And while we’re at it, since I’ve volunteered with AO3/OTW in several capacities, don’t be such idiots and CALL THE FBI on AO3. Read the goddammed law. It only applies to visual imagery. You can read the DOJ’s summary here, and the specific section of the US Code here.
Learn what the warning section (vs. just the tags) means, too. Archive of Our Own is NOT an entertainment provider. It’s an archive. It’s a big old box of stuff. Very smart, very experienced people keep an eye on it and on the law so we don’t have to live through scared-ass corporations worried about religious fanatics pissing on everyone’s happy.
And honestly? I’ve read books with dark content, books that have involved topics such as child abuse and sexual assault - and those books were explicitly focussing on things such as how social services can fail people, or criticising the environment that breeds the sort of mindset that leads to such things. These are books that are meant to get you to think about the situation, how it came to be, and the consequences of such. They were a source of social commentary, not a glorification of violence, and you can’t group them in with more tone-deaf works.
Yeah, there might be a problem in how popular media frames abusive situations as “love” or “romance” or whatever - but the solution to that is not to ban anything containing abuse. It’s to have open discussions about common misconceptions about relationships, how narratives are framed, and to provide materials explaining what abuse is, how it looks like, and to encourage people to be mindful of how they might hurt others.
I’m sincerely leery of people who throw around things like “you shouldn’t write this because the audience won’t be able to tell the difference” or “writing about ____ is romanticising it”. Even if there is a problem with a particular work, telling someone to outright stop isn’t actually telling them what the problem is; maybe it’s framed in a way that’s inaccurate or gives the wrong impression but could be improved with a few tweaks, maybe the person hasn’t realised the implications and needs some friendly guidance to help steer them in the right direction. Or maybe they’re setting it up to fall apart because the story is told from the perspective of the victim, and the actual horror of the situation has yet to sink in - an exploration of how being in such a relationship actually feels and how to spot the warning signs.
Also I’m gonna have to throw out a special mention for the people who say “but the audience isn’t that intelligent” - poor media literacy is often the result of an education system that puts emphasis on obedience and conformity rather than critical thought. It is not a moral failing, and what ought to be discussed are ways to develop those skills further.
And can we just get over this black and white attitude that anything that has potentially heavy content in it is a mortal sin and should be shunned forever?
I love the mention of A Song of Ice and Fire in the first reply. It’s a series that bombards you with terrible shit with the intention of making you go STOP PLEASE NO MORE. It’s trying to make you want to go out and prevent it. One subtle way in which it achieves that is its sex scenes; whenever one is explicitly shown, it’s… uncomfortable. It leaves you to question why, and there’s always a very brutal answer, generally to do with abuse. And once you’ve isolated that, you now have something to watch out for in the way you go about your life.
Because that’s what good literature bloody does. It challenges you, it makes you think, it can shape you into a better person, in some cases it has helped shaped entire cultures for the better. And it didn’t do so with fuzzy happy thoughts.
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if you support the use of trigger warnings but then get yourself in a tangle about Ao3 having tags for sensitive content, you need to look at your life and your choices
because why do you think trigger warnings are socially mandatory on a site run by a for-profit corporation who regularly fucks over their userbase in favour of pumping them for money...
...but then suddenly you think trigger warnings are an indication of the site itself being Evil Incarnate when they’re on a website run by a charity that’s staffed primarily by women volunteers and run via user donations 🤔
stigmatising people for properly tagging their content just means there’s an increase in people who use the “author chose not to use archive warnings” tag which, by the way, i hate, as someone with Gen-u-ine Bona Fide Clinical Triggers around underage content and rape (among other things)
if people like OP think they’re helping sexual abuse victims by declaring All Of Ao3 as being Bad due to the existence of these tags then i, for one, can assure them that they are not helping me. and not even from that tired “but it’s coping!!!” angle - i don’t use unapologetically writing about romanticised abuse as a coping mechanism and neither, ideally, should anyone else. the existence and use of these tags is primarily about helping me, and people like me, navigate which fics i can read without freaking out (and which ones i should avoid instead, or have a friend look over first, etc).
When your brain finally has some good creative ideas but it’s 3 AM and you need to sleep
IF THIS AIN’T LIFE
when the story is just not working, but you keep writing anyway
Current mood…
Reminder that she actually wins that season, so keep your head up.
Reminder that she constantly had trouble believing that she deserved to be there and her first few could best be described as ‘not the worst’.
And she won. She stayed positive, cried when she needed to, and kept going.
I was just about to say that… I almost cried when she won
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#fanficproblems
guys i can’t emphasise enough how important this is
please consider all of these factors facing fanfic writers, who are doing this for fun and no return whatsoever beyond the love of the thing. thank you.
Fixed.
What people think writing is like: careful planning and thought out plotlines
What writing is actually like: being possessed by an idea that you are constantly arguing with
I have never seen such an accurate description of writing in my life
tag yourself: writers edition
When the scene isn’t turning out like it’s supposed to but at least you’re writing
imagine person a of your polyship getting sick and trying really hard to hide it, but then they practically keel over in front of everyone
who freaks out, who stays calm? how do they take care of a?
that boost you get from talking to someone who is excited about your writing and wants to read it when you’re done is such a great motivator, tbh
WHAT ARE WE?!
WRITERS!!!
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?!
WRITE!!!!!
WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO IT?!
((Disgruntled muttering))
yeah. accurate.
my weakness is two broken characters who are broken in two completely different ways finding each other against all odds and healing each others wounds
this is actually incredibly sweet
me, reading my own wips: oh wow i hope the author finishes this