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My job? I’m the bat enemy in 2D games that flies at you from a diagonal angle you can’t shoot in, it’s an under appreciated role but really serves to test the player’s understanding of the mechanics leading up to harder challenges. I also receive an intense smug satisfaction when they can’t hit me.

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my cursed sword doesn't even tell me to kill people anymore it keeps begging me to put on a skirt and tights

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I already know I'm a girl dickhead I just like wearing pants

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women in STEM (suffering, torment, excruciating pain, misery)

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oh the weather is hot?

you should wear a short skirt about it

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mythratica

if you're going to make a ttrpg that emulates genre tropes- particularly if it advertises itself as 'creating [genre] stories'- it behooves you to have at least a passing familiarity with the most important entries in the genre

mythratica

as in: if you make a magical girl ttrpg and you dont have the most influential work in the genre listed in your inspirations im not going to take your work very seriously

cavegirlpoems

so I actually would like to push back against this a little bit.

I think I'd rather a game be specific with its inspirations rather than simply listing off the greats. It's not about giving a broad overview of the genre, it's about pinpointing which snapshot of that genre (and which things outside that genre) your game specifically is taking its influences from.

If you list off inspirations that aren't actually present in your work, that will result in people having a worse understanding of what your game is intended to do.

And, tbh, if I pick up a genre ttrpg and it lists off every notable work in the genre (many of them wildly different to each other) then I'm gonna assume that the design is as unfocussed and generic as the inspo list.

For example, there's a game I put out recently (The Yellow Curtain) that's got elements of magical girl in the mix. So the inspirations page lists the specific shows I was drawing on; revolutionary girl utena and review starlight. Because those shows - with their surrealism, emphasis on performance, structure based around duels, and fun queer readings - are what I made the game about. If I listed, say, card captor sakura then - no matter how beloved ccs is as a magical girl show - i'm doing the reader a disservice, because then they might try to use the game to create a ccs like experience, and that's just not something TYC is equipped to do.

Now, I think there's a sperate issue where people are making ttrpgs about genre fiction where they think that the genre is entirely about the section of that genre thats popular with white nerds in the west. So, you get magical girl games that list sailor moon and madoka magica and nothing else, because that's the entry-level slice of the genre that a basic western nerd knows, right? And this is a problem, particularly when every magical girl ttrpg lists the same two shows and fuck all else.

It's like, if I see a cosmic horror rpg that lists lovecraft and little else as its inspiration, I assume it's some basic shit by somebody with only a surface level knowledge of the genre, mostly filtered through nerd culture. If I see one that only lists Arthur Machen's The White People as its inspiration, I assume that the author is familiar with the wider genre and has chosen this specific deep cut on purpose.

I think the big issue here is all the magical girl ttrpgs are just citing lovecraft and none of them are citing arthur machen or k e wagner. They're all only inspired by The Entry Level Stuff and not by a *specific slice* of the genre.

mythratica

for what it's worth, i don't see this as pushing back per se- it's probably closer to what i was trying to get at but didn't express perfectly. it's just extra baffling when it comes to magical girls that they aren't even listing lovecraft so to speak; what they omit is so foundational (while still listing some obvious basic stuff) that it serves as sort of an ominous marker of their engagement as a whole, particularly because in many cases they very much seem to be angling at the formula that precure perfected. i will admit i was slightly uncharitable to some of the specific entries listed although i stand by others.

magical girl ttrpgs are just sort of so underdeveloped that i basically never see interesting slices; but i agree that this is generally more ideal than a heaping broad swathe. the work i'm doing for eureka's magical girl supplement ultimately ended up focusing on just a handful of series as core inspiration.

it's just like... i get this is because precure never quite struck it big in the west and other series ended up forming the core of western pop cultural understanding, but it's just so weird to see the moderately influential madoka thought of as the entry level series and not the mammoth yearly seasonal series with massive merchandise pushes that has dominated the space for two decades. it's like if every western mecha ttrpg listed Aldnoah Zero but not Gundam.

anyway- this is all to say that I broadly agree, and if i could go back and remake this post before it got a lot more attention than anticipated i would probably frame it in terms closer to yours.

cavegirlpoems

well then! I'm glad I was firmly agreeing with you. In conclusion: