Livingoffthegriddle

#tony and ziva #tiva spinoff #ziva david #tony dinozzo

7x02 // Reunion

Not complaining but this show really loves ambiguity, atill wishing they discussed even a little bit on tony and ziva what happened in paris if by some miracle we get a second season or some form of mre of the show, they cant ignore it forever becauee we know it had to be something extremly significant for tony to move him and his daughter there because i am not buying the "ziva loves paris reason" yes that was definitely a part it i am sure tony wanted tali to see something her mom loves but i am not buying that was the only reason but maybe i am delustional lol but i am also not saying it would be them "sleeping" together is reason because i feel like that would be wierd when tali got older and asked why they moved there i am more thinking there had to be some emotional significane for them that neither the mother ship or tony and ziva wanted to reveal and now its just abiguous which sucks

7x02 // Reunion

Mind you, a few episodes later, she "sleeps" with him in Paris. So whatever, Ziva, you tell yourself that. I think the hotel room bed sheets speak differently, but okay

7x02 // Reunion

MW coming back to NCIS?

I am not saying the only reason for tony being relevant is because of tali and ziva but also that being said i am genuinly confused what the point of bringing him back is as far as i know they havent disclosed his arch they just said its going to be most of the season and that just makes me wonder i dont know the point of bringing a character back like tony when his story has mostly been conclued in terms of the og show . especially if Ziva and Tali aren't coming too i guess theres only going to be mentions of thoughts? i mean i did read it's taking place after the spinoff, so it would only make sense to bring back Tony and Ziva unless something's going on, but other than that I don't know

#tony and ziva #undercovers

Finally got on AO3, yay!!!!

I have said this before, and I know this is old news, but I am not over the irony of this man. He makes fun of Ziva for the opera being " the big three" of romantic dates, then he goes out of his way, mind you, to bring the opera to her because she couldn't go because he knew it was important to her. And despite the fact that he made fun of her for the opera being one of the big three, some might say the gesture he made to bring her the opera could be considered "one of the big three," it's so ironic, can't with him.

#tony and ziva #tiva #season 10

jareaujareau

and we’re supposed to believe that they’re platonic… yeah right

Mind you, they were both seeing other people, and for a guy that said "he understood this one" (ej), he certainly couldn't keep his hands off Ziva

wellarentyougoingtosaysomething

delicatefalice

alexa play guilty as sin? by taylor swift

girlfriend was going THROUGH it

#tony and ziva #tiva spinoff

The little grin on her face, she was still at the restaurant, literally

#tiva #1X03

Having severe writers block so if you have anything you want me to write for Tiva feel free to share

Do we think tony started therapy again, and was actually honest again, or did he completely swear off therapy again? Because I know Tali talked to a therapist in the end, so I am assuming he still feels positively about therapy, so I am wondering, do we think they are still doing therapy, or are they too traumatized from the marital counseling retreat

I'm gonna be the devil's advocate here and say he doesn't do therapy again because he holds this 'I don't need therapy wtf are you talking about' persona until sometimes it slips through the cracks (like they did on 1x07) that maybe he needs a friend or someone to talk to

but I personally like to think he doesn't and they don't return there lol a personal thing but to me it sounds a bit like 'yeah at least we've tried' and they found other ways to communicate, to spend quality time together and heal without being so obvious

I really like the idea of Tali in therapy though, that girl needs it haha I fear she's the breaking point of them and has been through #too much from such an young age, she should be the one open to it

silvertonedwords

I can totally see this but I like to think for me maybe he did find a therapist? Not couples' therapy; I think that made him feel like he needed to perform something. But for himself. And not one who necessarily went deep into his history. But someone who could be a sounding board. *Tells a story about Ziva. So what should I do?* *What do you want to do?* asks the therapist. *Should I tell Ziva X?* *Do you want to? Do you think she knows that?*

I'm not sure Tali needs therapy -- she actually seems pretty well-adjusted. Although I think a few honest conversations with her parents about some of their history with her are in order. Clearly, Ziva having left them is a wound that gets to her sometimes, as it would, but I don't know if I see her needing therapy to work through that so much as her and Ziva not being afraid to talk about it sometimes.

#tony and ziva #tiva #tiva spinoff

Yes, I agree with this 100% individual therapy would definitely give him the choice of what he wants to share and what he wants to keep private. A therapist would be a healthy sounding board for tony

Do we think tony started therapy again, and was actually honest again, or did he completely swear off therapy again? Because I know Tali talked to a therapist in the end, so I am assuming he still feels positively about therapy, so I am wondering, do we think they are still doing therapy, or are they too traumatized from the marital counseling retreat

i know i am in enmey territory but this is just my opinion

I am glad we didn't get the scene where they are in bed together when tali walks in on them in the scene, you could kind of see the expression on her face like if tony and ziva got back together, she was afraid it was going to be like how it was when ziva first came back and when they were at breakfast she clearly wasnt ready but she eventually comes to the conculsion on her own that her parents derseve to be happy without it being forced on to her just because she saw them in bed. And secondly, the idea that they sleep together after Henry died seems sweet, but in my opinion, it just seems like a reverse Adam situation, especially when you consider they aren't together, they're "keeping it professional. Yes, she is comforting him because Henry died, but part of me feels like it's just another situation sleeping together cause someone died. All that being said, they shouldn't have deleted them. Opening up that was so good and progress, ESPECIALLY for tony