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Hey Cassie! I can't wait until Lord of Shadows! Recently, there's been some turbulence on Tumblr that you were going to "kill off" Alec (as in way before he reaches an "older" age). The only time I observed you addressing this was when you said how Magnus would move on after Alec's mortal life ended, not that you were going to kill him off at a young age. I know you can't talk about all of this, but, to ease some rumors, could you discuss whether or not you confirmed you were "killing him off"?
I can definitely confirm I never said anything about killing him off. The prevelance of the rumor is a total puzzle to me, too, since I have no idea what set it off or where it came from ā the first time I saw it in comments was in a post about Diego and Jaime.Ā
Those newer to the fandom might not remember, but this does happen every so often ā like the return of the swallows to San Juan Capistrano every year, someone decides Alec is going to be killed off. The last time was right before CoHF. I think, though I canāt be sure,that it just has to do with me saying that characters or a character will die in an upcoming book ā though I never give any clue as to who, so confirming I was killing anyone off specifically would be so unlike me my friends would cart me off to see if I had a head injury or had recently been drinking blue drinks at a warlock party.
Iāve seen some people say they think Alec will die in The Lost Book of the White  ⦠but since it takes place during COFA I donāt know how that would happen since Alec is very demonstrably alive in CoLs and COHF (and TDAā¦) I totally get worrying for the safety of favorite characters but I have said nothing, ever, about killing off Alec at a young age, or any age, and there is no reason to worry about him as opposed to or more than Clary or Jace or any of the Blackthorns. In fact there is much less. (And in terms of Magnus moving on after Alec died, that was theoretical! ā as inĀ ā"if Alec died, thenā¦ā not any kind of harbinger of things to come.)
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on the rightsĀ of women to own their own work. crummy crabapple speaks!
Yes, this stuff is still going on. I was hoping it would have ended after this, but it hasnāt, and being called a bitch whore murderer gets wearing fast when itās based on nothing.
Look, frank talk about this stuff on Tumblr is often discouraged ā when you have a small but pretty active group of āhaters,ā as happens nowadays to most successful creators, especially women, the general rule of thumb is not to talk to or about them. Blocking them on twitter excites them: itās attention. Replying is pointless, explaining is deliberately misinterpreted, the truth is a lie, lies are truth, up is down, winning is losing. You canāt win in this situation, anyway: nobody can or does, everyone loses. The creators, the fandom, those caught in the middle (actors, etc.) Everyone.
This business about me killing Alec isnāt a rumor. Itās a lie. A purposeful lie told to make a point: that I am a bad person unworthy of my creations and that if I am a bad enough person, itās okay to say they donāt belong to me, that I didnāt create them, that there is essentially no value in the act of creation, especially when it is done by a woman.
As we all know but mostly donāt talk about because If You Speak It They Will Come, there is a small group of anti-TMI-book fans who believe the books and the show are at war. Ā (They are not the showās fans. They are something else entirely. I talk to perfectly nice show fans all the time: these are less people who love Shadowhunters than people dedicated to the idea that if they scream about it long enough, the show will cease being based on this particular book series: an ultimately doomed goal that nevertheless leaves them plenty of opportunities to annoy the rest of us.) Instead of being able to accept that art is partly subjective, they are in a constant battle for an imaginary moral high ground in which they are the keepers of a version of the Mortal Instruments that has been objectively purified of all problematic elements.Ā
The problem there being, of course, that there is no such thing as perfect, unproblematic media. Art comes from humans and humans are flawed. If you expect perfection you will be bitterly disappointed every single time: Iāve watched it happen over and over, as the this showrunnerĀ is a gift tag turns into the This showrunnerĀ is not a gift tag, Ā and many of those who last year spoke glowingly of wrapping Ed Decter, their unproblematic hero (who once said to me in wonder, āYou really worked a miracle with Malec, you know, people care about them as if they were a normal coupleā), in cotton wool and fuzzy socks, now refer to Todd Slavkin as āToad.ā* Plenty of articles about the problematic elements of Shadowhunters have now been writtenĀ and plenty of posts posted. (If Ed hadnāt been fired, he might have stuck around long enough to get called Ediot; these things are, after all, just a matter of time. (i get called āCasseroleā, seriously, I am not kidding you, you cannot make this shit up.) )Ā
To clarify: I am definitely NOT saying that a (potentially problematic) work should remain uncriticized to spare the feelings of the creators because they are flawed humans like everyone else. Criticism is valid; criticism is useful; criticism is important. What I am talking about in this post is not criticism. Telling a creator that her creations should be taken away from her because she ādoesnāt deserve themā: not criticism. Making up funny names and mean hashtags for creators you donāt like: obviously hilarious for some, but definitely not criticism. And to some extent everyone knows this ā so if itās important to you that a creator be denied the right to claim ownership of, and pride in, her own work, it has to be because she is not just problematic but corrupt, evil, and cruel. She has to be morally bankrupt such that removing her from the narrative of her own creation is a moral good.
And so the lie that Iām planning to kill Alec (framed within the true narrative that killing off LGBT+ characters is a serious fucking problem in media) is a natural development: because wouldnāt that be awful and mean the books were morally very bad and wrong and shouldnāt creators who create bad wrong things have their creations taken away from them? Which would be just another Misogyny Tuesday on the internet except for the fact that itās exploiting the fears of a vulnerable group of people (LGBT+ fans for whom Alec means a lot, in whatever format ā fans who have seen over and over LGBT characters die for nothing, for shitty reasons, for straight people, on TV and in movies and in comics and in books and are therefore in a place to be incredibly hurt by it happening again), to score a point in what is basically a ship war. And that is really shitty.
And yes, itās a ship war.
There was really a āsalty casseroleā joke in there begging to be made. Missed opportunity!
So, why am I salty, you might ask? There is this belief that I must be Upset With The Show because people care about Malec on it more than Clace: my friends, the field where I grow my fucks is barren on this topic. I made up both couples. I donāt care which one you ship more, especially in a format where their story is not being told by me and for all I know, the showrunners donāt even want you shipping Clace at the moment. They seem into Climon and oh God, I have bored myself with this tangent.
I invented Clace and Malec. Iām writing a trilogy about Malec because I love Malec and have a story in my head about them, despite being offered three times the money to write one about Clace, as theyāre āmore marketable.ā I do not have a favorite. Maybe writing works that way for some people but I doubt it. Iāve always said I donāt ship in my own books, and that is precisely what I meant.Ā
Moving on: Are there things that have upset me about the show and the way it was developed?Ā Yes ā being told my mostly-female audience wasnāt a desirable one because theyāre female; the fact that the female artist of color who created the runes has never been paid or credited for their use; being told Isabelle was ātits and assā, being told Alec being gay was āa strike against his likeabilityā, contractual shit you will never know about because that stuff isnāt public ā but for some reason Iām supposed to give a flying fuck about who ships what canon couple on the show? For viewers, as it should be, this is a TV show: for me this is part of my brand and has real-world consequences for my life. Unsurprisingly I care about those, notĀ some imaginary ship war.
I was thrilled Shadowhunters won a GLAAD award for Magnus and Alec. Ā (I was thrilled when the movie of Mortal Instruments got a GLAAD award nomination for Magnus and Alec though there was so little of them in the movie, it served to really underline the paucity of LGBT+ storylines in major film and tv.) I congratulated Matt and Harry on twitter; the comments below mine are something of a primer in why female creators are fleeing the internet in greater and greater numbers.
https://twitter.com/cassieclare/status/848497330999369729
The message is overwhelmingly: āShut up, bitch, how dare you open your mouth and remind us that this show exists because your books do, even though you didnāt actually say that but you see, we like to pretend youāre dead and itās inconvenient when you speak.ā Iād imagine every one of those commenters would tell you they were a feminist, too. The idea that nothing is gained by shutting up women or denying that their intellectual property has worth or value is apparently one that seems good in the abstract, but falls at the first hurdle of but I donāt like her.
The abstract often does fail when it comes into conflict with the concrete. Being a feminist ally means being an ally even to women you donāt like, because being an ally only to people you like requires no effort and less thought. That doesnāt mean never criticizing women or their work. But it does require interrogating whatās going on in your own head. One of the most unpleasant haters I see on twitter, who viciously loathes me though we have never met, has read all my books; she has Malec in her username, and a quote from the books in her bio. She has Cassandra Jeanās art on her twitter page, and Valerie Freireās rune designs in her text and background. Thatās a lot of mental and artistic real estate devoted to the work of three women she refers to as āØāgarbage trash.ā (Though I think Cassandra Jean and Val are mostly garbage trash because they associate with me and should instead have waited ten years for the TV show to come along so they could draw pictures of it or something. I donāt really understand it: the cognitive dissonance that allows to you dedicate your life to āMalecā while crapping on the person who created both characters and their relationship is so enormous that I can only follow it so far and no farther. I understand thinking that the show version is better, but not whatever warped fantasy tells you that if the books had never been written the show (now called āEvilchasersā perhaps) would have heroically found a way to invent the Ā story of a gay demon-fighting warrior and his biracial warlock boyfriend anyway because that very specificĀ story was floating around the ethereal planes waiting to be discovered by the psychic powers of Disney and it is only by great misfortune that I got to it first.) Point being: if your username isĀ āBubbles loves Malecā yet your twitter is dedicated to spewing venom at the person without whom the thing you love would not exist, it might be time to ask yourself some questions about cause and effect, and also, what that hate of yours is doing for you, psychologically speaking.
Look, I am going to get a lot of shit for this post, but whatever ā the upside of being constantly screamed at for things you have not done (slut-shamed Isabelle, planned to murder Alec, thus contributing to the fucking awful homophobic trope of killing off gay characters, āstabbed the actors in the backā, promoted incest, poisoned the earthās water supply) is that you no longer bother worrying about being screamed at for things you did do. I wonāt do set visits or conventions since coming back from NY Comicon to stuff like this: Ā
Iām not going to comment on the specifics, save to say they represent a massive and almost hilarious (though probably deliberate) misinterpretation of literally everything that happened on that panel. (If the network didnāt want book fans there, asking me questions, they wouldnāt have brought me there. I was there to do promotion for the show by talking about the show and the books ā I am the author, and what the literal fuck else do you think they brought me there to talk about? The history of Belgian cabinet-making? They donāt think attention paid to the books takes away from the show: only a small group of asshats think that, and itās weird that the OP never paused to think that if they didnāt want me there talking about the books, they could simply NOT HAVE INVITED ME. Also did it seriously never occur to them that panelists are asked to speak at certain junctures or in reference to certain questions, or gestured at to do so, we donāt just randomly interject? Lord.
I will admit it was extreme of Harry not to leave me lying there on the floor or maybe drop a chair on my head while no one was looking. He should reconsider his choices.)
But thatās the thing: posts like this one are the reason I havenāt gone back to set, or gone to another convention, or promoted the show. Would you go to a convention if you knew people like this were going to be feet away from you in the audience? Iām a grown-up, I can take being called Crummy Crabapple (did the whole kindergarten class vote on that one or was it a decision by fiatā¦?) but the sheer hate that underpins the silliness of the post makes the idea of being near people who think like that fairly shuddery.Ā
I gathered a few such posts together to show to FF, and the networkās never blamed me for not wanting to go out and physically promote again. The sad part of all this is that mostly I pretend the show doesnāt exist because the downside of mentioning it is being screamed at for days by asshats (Let me be very specific what I mean by āasshatsā = people who send threats, who use insulting gendered language, make anti-Semitic slurs, and repeatedly tell me I should not be allowed to own my own work ā if this is not stuff you do, Iām not talking about you. Criticism of the books is fine and irrelevant.)Ā
We all know these asshats exist ā and we are all sad about it: me, the network, the actors, the showrunners, because the net result of them existing is that I donāt talk about or promote the show, and thatās a loss for a show that could really use that outreach. Losing me, my online audience, my worldwide publishers, as potential promotional partners is bad, not good, for a show that these people theoretically love. Losing the book fans the show depended on as viewers, but who canāt stand the toxic atmosphere, is bad, not good, for the actors and writers they claim to support. Screaming āINCEST FREAK!ā at every twelve year old who comes online and timidly asks when they will see Chairman Meow is not going to raise the showās ratings. If someone is more interested in driving away the showās potential audience because they regard them as moral degenerates than they are in getting it renewed, thatās their bliss to follow, but the reason Iām mentioning these people at all is 1) Iām disturbed by the narrative women shouldnāt be allowed to own their own work and 2) many many posts have now been made about what an awful place the Shadowhunters/TMI fandom is, and that sucks for everyone. Sadly, it doesnāt take that many people to ruin an online space.
The idea that the books and the show are at war for kibbles is a fannish one (most people, including my publisher, regard TV shows based on books as advertising for those books because from a book perspective thatās what they are)Ā seems to come out of the fact that fans argue about which they like better, something that has happened since the dawn of adaptations. I remember it from when I was in the Harry Potter fandom: Alan Rickman understood Snape better than JKR, the movies gave Draco more depth, etc and so on. Looking back now I can see the irony of people with usernames like Lupinfan talking about how Lupin was sidelined in the books but not the movies, but distance gives infinite perspective, I suppose. If you like Malec better on the show: awesome. They still exist on the show because they were invented in the books. That statement will be interpreted as the height of arrogance, but itās just flat fact. They matter in both formats to a lot of people. There will never be a hand of God that reaches down from the sky and declares either one better. It will always be a matter of taste and opinion. The fact that art is subjective is something we all have to live with.
This is what I mean about the ākilling Alecā lie: it has become part of the justification for my unworthiness to claim to have anything to do with my own characters. Killing Alec would be a bad thing to do to Alec (and Magnus); thus I would be terribly maltreating Alec (and Magnus); thus I donāt deserve to have anything to do with Alec (or Magnus). Thus it is okay to tell me to get the fuck out ā how dare I even open my bitch mouth to congratulate the actors playing my characters if I would do something so terrible to them, after all? And who cares if itās a lie and no one can source it? (Come on now, be real ā no one tried.)
Whether I deserve Alec and Magnus is somewhat beside the point: I invented them regardless, and there was a large and profoundly intense Malec fandom before the show ever aired, whose existence is in fact directly responsible for the fact that Malec are a thing on the show at all. (Initially, neither of them appeared or were even referred to in the pilot.) Reality doesnāt really intrude into the fantasy that Magnus and Alec and Isabelle and Jace descended, pre-created, from a sky cloud, though: the fan/creator ownership dichotomy has existed since before Arthur Conan Doyle was bullied into bringing Sherlock back from the dead. Fans and creators donāt always agree and creators arenāt always right. What they are, however, always, is creators.
(In case I had forgotten that I am not, in fact, a hot dude actor. ASTONISHING INFORMATION.)Ā It is mysterious to interpret congratulating actors as taking ācredit for Matt and Harryās hard workā; Ā I neither need or want that anyway because I am not an actor; I am already credited on the show as the author of the source material, which is what I am. (Iāve won plenty of book awards but would be very puzzled to win, say, a Nobel prize for chemistry.)Ā I congratulated the actors knowing Iād get a raft of shit for either doing so or not doing so: I chose to do so despite the inevitable annoyance factor because I like Matt and Harry; I wanted them hired; I like how much they love the characters, and Iāve always found them to be kind people who would loathe and despise the kind of tweets these folks are sending on their behalf.
Ironic, that.
But yeah, I also sent it because Iām proud of Malec. Deal with that.Ā Women need to be allowed to be proud of their work sometimes without that being considered a deep evil. I donāt think the Magnus and Alec I created are perfect (by which I mean my writing of them, not their endearing flaws ;) but they represent years of work and love, and like any author would be, Iām thrilled to see the screen version of them acknowledged twice as something special. Thatās very normal: for the GLAAD win, I got flowers from my publisher, congrats from the network and from my agents at CAA, because why wouldnāt you congratulate an author on something good happening to an adaptation of their books? The idea that when discussing an adaptation of their work, an author should reel back in terror screamingĀ āI AM UNWORTHY TO BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME SENTENCES AS THE CHARACTERS I CREATED!ā is so bizarre to most people that if you tried to explain to them that some women, not all women hahaha of course, but SOME WOMEN JUST DONT DESERVE TO BE ALLOWED TO TALK OR CLAIM THEY CAN āOWNāĀ THINGS AMIRITE, they would back quietly away muttering that they had an important appointment to get their hedgehog dyed blue because they would literally think you were probably a serial killer.
This situation is not unique to these books, to me, or to this show: however, there is a special angle to this particular situation. Many commenters on all this have noted that the books are a female creation, the show a male one. Ed, Todd, Michael, Matt, McG, and Darren are all men, and in many ways, people find it much more comfortable, much easier, and much simpler to give uncritical admiration to men.Ā Theyāre men, and therefore they have authority I donāt, and my continued existence as the author of the source material of Shadowhunters is seen as even more horrible because it makes it a girl thing, andĀ āgirl thingsā are less serious and less worthy. One of the things I often see the haters say is that the show isĀ āolderā; in fact the audience of the show is statistically younger than the bookās audience (Iāve seen the numbers) but I think itās hard not to want to dismiss something so imbued with lady germs as being inherently inferior (and whatās more inferior than young women? Itās trendy to bash YA, which is seen as the province the young and the female ā surely preferring menās work makes you, you know, a more serious person? And surely if I had the sense God gave a weasel, Iād stop writing, give the book rights to some guy, and retire in shame? GO FORTH HARLOT AND WRITE YA NO MORE.)
Feminism does not mean you cannot criticize works by women. Iāve said that before, but Iām saying it again because itās so easy to dismiss essays like this by sayingĀ āSheās hiding behind feminism and claiming we canāt criticize her because sheās a woman!ā Nope. (Though it does mean you look for patterns. Itās kind of interesting thereās this small group of people who believe these characters/storylines really came alive when control of them was handed over to a series of ever-changing white middle-aged men. I mean, coincidence perhaps, butā¦?) I havenāt addressed criticism here really because itās not the point: there is a huge gap between writing a bad review of a womanās book and crusading for the idea that she shouldnāt be allowed to own her own intellectual property. Men taking away, literally taking away the money made from and authorship of womenās work is an ugly part of history (āColette and [her husband] separated in 1906, although it was not until 1910 that the divorce became final. She had no access to the sizable earnings of the Claudine books [she had written]āthe copyright belonged to himā) and itās disturbing to see a group of primarily women argue that it should be repeated.
If the idea that a woman created Magnus and Alec, or any characters or world, is so horribly, terribly bothersome that you have to make up lies that, in your mind, render her unworthy of her own creation so that itās all right to ātake it from herā by discounting her role as a writer, her ownership of her own intellectual property, her right to exist as a person and to stand on the same stage at a convention as the āgem-like saintāĀ male actors playing her characters ā Ā maybe think about why?* What does screaming that Iād better not think Alec and Magnus have anything to do with me get you, really? Except the knowledge that if, one day, you write or create or draw something people love, youāveĀ helped create an environment in which itās a veritable certainty youāll get treated like youāre a piece of shit for doing it?
*AndĀ ābitchā isĀ ābitchā, friends. It doesnāt matter what letters you take out, itās still misogynist and still shitty. You know what youāre saying, and so does everyone else. Try asshat, really. I recommend it.
Hi! Will we ever know your character's birthdays? Like the actual days? I need to plan celebrations šš
I can tell you that the 10th Anniversary edition of CoB contains the Claveās files on Jace, Clary, Alec, Isabelle, Raphael, Magnusā¦even Church (ā"Cat: immortal, may be agent of Valentine. Weakness: tunaā) WITH BIRTHDAYS.
If I donāt reply itās probably because your message got lost in the hundreds of others asking if I wanna trade my url :(
Magnus: So, how is the prettiest person in the world doing?
Alec: *doesn't even look up from his book* I don't know, how are you?
Magnus:
Magnus: *voice cracking* I'm fine
Alec cuddling with chairman meow
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infininate27 said:Ā Bonjour Cassie, with all these new books coming out could you explain or give a list of books coming out? For example is The Last Hour connected to The Dark Artifices or is it a different series? Thank you, and a HUGE fan of The Infernal Devices!!! :)
Iām currently working on two Shadowhunter projects, The Dark Artifices, which takes place in 2012, and The Last Hours, which takes place in 1903. The Dark Artifices Trilogy: Lady Midnight Lord of Shadows Queen of Air and Darkness The Dark Artifices (TDA) follows the adventures of Emma Carstairs and the Blackthorn family, who we met in City of Heavenly Fire. Itās five years later, and Emma and the Blackthorns find themselves embroiled in a murder mystery, one that has disturbing connections to their past and could spell disaster for their future. The first book, Lady Midnight, will be out on March 8, 2016. The Last Hours Trilogy: Chain of Gold Chain of Iron Chain of Thorns The Last Hours (TLH) deals with the children of the characters we known from the Infernal Devices. 1903 is right around the time the Victorian era tips over into the Edwardian eraā beautiful clothes, fabulous history and so much more that Iām excited to write about! The first book will be Chain of Gold. Itās a work in progress and we donāt have a release date for it yet. TDA and TLH will intertwine in subtle ways, similar to the connections between the Infernal Devices and the Mortal Instruments. TDA and TLH can also each be read and enjoyed independently, so itās up to you what order you chose to read them in. (In general, I suggest reading my books in publication order.) Hereās the updated release schedule as it stands right now: Lady Midnight (The Dark Artifices 1) March 8 2016 Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy (print edition) Fall 2016 Lord of Shadows (The Dark Artifices 2) May 2017 (tentative) Chain of Gold (The Last Hours 1) Queen of Air and Darkness Ā (The Dark Artifices 3) Chain of Iron (The Last Hours 2) Chain of Thorns (The Last Hours 3)
Just reblogging to restate the publication schedule, and add thatĀ Tales from the Shadowhunter AcademyĀ will be coming out November 15, this fall!
āmundanekamilia said:I was wondering if there is any set order of publishing of the future books and which one you are currently working on?ā
I looked back at this and realized it badly needed updating!
So, the tentative schedule Iām currently working from:
Lady Midnight (The Dark Artifices Book One): March 2016
Lord of Shadows: (The Dark Artifices Book Two): May 2017
The Lost Book of the White (book one of The Eldest Curses, otherwise known asĀ āthe Malec booksā) : Late 2017/early 2018.
Chain of Gold: 2018. (The Last Hours, Book One)Ā No specific release date has been set. I would guess late in the year.
Queen of Air and DarknessĀ (The Dark Artifices Book Three) 2019
The Black Book of the DeadĀ (book two of The Eldest Curses, otherwise known as āthe Malec booksā) : 2019
Chain of Iron: 2020
The Red Scrolls of Magic:Ā (book three of The Eldest Curses, otherwise known as āthe Malec booksā) : Late 2020
Chain of Thorns: 2021
The Wicked Powers: Currently unscheduled!
(Other books include the CoB coloring book, April 2017, the CoB 10th Anniversary Special Edition this fall, and Magisterium: the Silver Mask, this October.)
Malec being happy. Aw!
Detail from the map of Alicante in the back of Target editions of Lord of Shadows ā I love seeing the Gard and even the alley where Jace burned his handprints! For a full rundown of special editions of LoS, stay tuned. #tda, #shadowhunters, #tsc
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emma carstairs from cassie clareās āthe dark artificesā (canāt wait for book 2!!)
also, this was inspired by cassandra jeanās art style, if you liked this, youāll definitely love her art:)
not sure what the message with this one was, the mood was definitely meant to be solemn. i canāt wait to see the emotional path emma is going down in lord of shadows!
Love this Emma!
hi cassie! i have two questions! was it ever mentioned how old ragnor was and i missed it? because i don't recall his age ever being mentioned. and is there anything you can tell us how magnus and alec feel about kieran hanging out with their kids in LOS?
Youāll see a lot of Magnus and Alec in Lord of Shadows (some Clary and Jace, and a lot of Sizzy in QoaAD.) So I think youāll definitely get a sense of how they feel about Kieran, and how they parent in general.Ā
Ragnor has always kept his age close to the chest but heās older than Magnus!
Long time no seeā¦Ā
(Magnus and Meow)
Aw, Magnus and Chairman Meow and Magnus speaking Indonesian <3